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KnurledNut

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I always wanted the Carlyle bit ratchet due to its larger heavy duty build, but wasn't willing to pay the $60 NAPA was asking. Then they went and discontinued the entire existing line and released a new Carlyle brand image with cheaper tools and higher prices. :wtf:

Well while I was looking for something else on ebay, I came across the ratchet new for $30 shipped and decided to jump on it before they are completely NLA. The seller has more if anyone is interested. Just search Carlyle RH14S100

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How did I miss that Craftsman made 3/8 drive mid-length sockets back in the day???
I have seen a ****-ton of Craftsman sockets over the years and I have never come across one until I recently stumbled upon a used metric set and thought my eyes were playing tricks on me!

Apparently this set originally skipped 11mm.
Mine was missing 10 and 12 so I decided to add an 11 and 12 for my personal needs.

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Japan may be the one country in the world that rivals the USA on idiot type warnings posted all over.

In the case of the USA, I think our tendency for the excessive warnings is driven by too many lawyers and dummies generating lawsuits with potential large liabilities that can kill businesses. In the Japanese case, it is much harder to file idiot lawsuits and damages are capped to reasonable levels. So I am not sure why they do all the postings. But one of the most common phrases you will hear in Japan translates to roughly, "Caution please". I guess it is wired in their culture to give warnings.

In the case of the Japanese, I think it’s more about caring about the welfare of others.
 

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How did I miss that Craftsman made 3/8 drive mid-length sockets back in the day???
I have seen a ****-ton of Craftsman sockets over the years and I have never come across one until I recently stumbled upon a used metric set and thought my eyes were playing tricks on me!

Apparently this set originally skipped 11mm.
Mine was missing 10 and 12 so I decided to add an 11 and 12 for my personal needs.

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How far back in the day? USA-made?
 

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Warranty replacement Craftsman tools. The 90 tooth ratchet is a huge upgrade from the old raised panel. The raised panel ones are good for collecting but terrible to use in my opinion. This one locked up on me so I emailed and got a replacement took a full two weeks to arrive. 8 days for the ratcheting wrench to arrive because I warrantied it out two days after the ratchet.
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I was looking into getting this ratchet for my Craftsman set to replace my raised panel one. When I look up the part number, CMMT86723, it shows that it's 72T rather than the 90T you received. The Craftsman website lists as a 72T also.


Does anyone here have any insight on this?

Edit: If you go to the above Craftsman site and scroll through the pictures, some say the ratchet has 90T. I guess I'm going to Lowes or Ace and see what's on the shelves.
 
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Squankum

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I was looking into getting this ratchet for my Craftsman set to replace my raised panel one. When I look up the part number, CMMT86723, it shows that it's 72T rather than the 90T you received. The Craftsman website lists as a 72T also.


Does anyone here have any insight on this?

Edit: If you go to the above Craftsman site and scroll through the pictures, some say the ratchet has 90T. I guess I'm going to Lowes or Ace and see what's on the shelves.

I'm keeping my old RP's just as a testament to how we suffered in the old days and it built character!
 

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I was looking into getting this ratchet for my Craftsman set to replace my raised panel one. When I look up the part number, CMMT86723, it shows that it's 72T rather than the 90T you received. The Craftsman website lists as a 72T also.


Does anyone here have any insight on this?

Edit: If you go to the above Craftsman site and scroll through the pictures, some say the ratchet has 90T. I guess I'm going to Lowes or Ace and see what's on the shelves.
All my Lowe’s has the 90 tooth versions out. I went to one of the Ace Hardware and they had the 72 out but I’d say tools don’t sell as much at Ace so most likely older stock. The Craftsman representative told me the 90 tooth was the newest version when I requested warranty.
 

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Got this on sale at Walmart for $4.50. It’s my most used size for lug nuts. Someone today needed a thin wall 21mm at work and I’ve got a couple but they weren’t thin enough so he had to use a chrome socket. This one looks a little thinner so maybe it will help.
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But is it an impact socket? :dunno:
 

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I assume so I’ve used them on impacts before. Now I’ve got to check the tag when I get back home cause I’m curious lol.
Sorry, there's so many sockets on the market today that you think are impact rated but aren't. when checking the tag, see if it's chrome moly or chrome vanadium please. You guys are going to make me drag my *** to Wal Mart just to look at the new Hypertough tools :wtf:
 
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BlakeTheCarGuy

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Sorry, there's so many sockets on the market today that you think are impact rated but aren't. when checking the tag, see if it's chrome moly or chrome vanadium please. You guys are going to make me drag my *** to Wal Mart just to look at the new Hypertough tools :wtf:
They all look pretty promising honestly. In my opinion a lot better of an appearance than Hart. Most of the things I looked at were made in Vietnam or India.
 

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Sorry, there's so many sockets on the market today that you think are impact rated but aren't. when checking the tag, see if it's chrome moly or chrome vanadium please. You guys are going to make me drag my *** to Wal Mart just to look at the new Hypertough tools :wtf:

With a name like Hyper Tough... well, it could go either way.
 

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From a long-ago time? "Do I need to buy a set of Torxdrivers?" "Nah, those are only found on headlights, buy the headlight kit."
Haha! Yeah it's an older set. I actually bought it today for $5. :) And a set of torx drivers doesn't come with a 4mm nutdriver bit. :cool:
I mainly got it to make either a basic 6 in 1 or 10 in 1 as it uses the standard receiver. Not sure if Mac ever offered one.
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Got this on sale at Walmart for $4.50. It’s my most used size for lug nuts. Someone today needed a thin wall 21mm at work and I’ve got a couple but they weren’t thin enough so he had to use a chrome socket. This one looks a little thinner so maybe it will help.
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I've had to remove the outer sleeve on a similar socket in order to get the clearance I needed. I broke the lugs loose by hand, and applied final torque by hand, because I didn't trust the socket to withstand impact.
 

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Is Hardy a good brand of gloves? I'm looking to buy a case of nitrile gloves.
I've gone through several boxes of Harbor Freight nitrile gloves.
I was up in Sequim and needed gloves. No Harbor Freight, and I wasn't going to drive to P.A. to get them.
Coastal Hardware sold me a box of "Gloveworks by Ammex" 5mm black nitrile gloves. I like these much better. They seem to be more durable than the flimsy blue ones I was getting from HF.
They were about $8 bucks for a box of 100 - seemed pretty reasonable.
 

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Is Hardy a good brand of gloves? I'm looking to buy a case of nitrile gloves.
No, not really, but, they are cheap, for quick light duty jobs, the Hardy gloves suffice.

The purple gloves below work better for me.
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The latex ones I only use for certain jobs.

I had some orange textured nitrile gloves that I liked, unfortunately, I used them all up and didn't hang on to the box in order to purchase more of them.
 

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In the case of the Japanese, I think it’s more about caring about the welfare of others.
I do not think so. My sense (wife is Japanese and our two sons spend summers in Japan) is that things get done with rigorous dilligence in Japan when they are expected to be performed. It is their culture. Warnings (to an excessive extent) are expected: so they get done.

Even if the guy warning you hates you and would take pleasure in your demise, he will still warn you when warnings are expected since it is a duty. I guess that is good in some ways. But society there is much less free wheeling for better or worse.

I do not mean my comment as a disrespect of Japanese culture. But the mindset and patterns can be very different from what one is used to in the usa and europe. Japanese culture of performing ones best and adherence to duty is why japanese manufacturing can be so good when they have the skills and ability/materials to do so. You see this in Japanese tools.
 

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I was on the mainland yesterday (or, as we're wont to say on this island, "I went to America yesterday") to pick up our '96 F250, which is sporting a new heavy duty rebuilt transmission after spending an expensive week at the transmission spa. I had a bit of extra time, so I swung by HF to take advantage of their 30% off sale on Doyle products. I had left my old vice stand in CA for our son to use and I've been missing a vice when working w/ the welder & grinder. A 6" Doyle was $140 after the discount, which seemed reasonable. I bolted it to my welding table this morning; drilling 4 1/2" holes in 3/4" plate with my M18 1/2" drill reminds me that a mag drill would be a neat addition to the shop someday.

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Is Hardy a good brand of gloves? I'm looking to buy a case of nitrile gloves.
The 7 and 9mil ones are. The 5 mil blue have really went down in quality but the green 5 mil seem stronger I don’t know if it’s like a different formula or what. At work we have the MicroFlex Diamond Grip and sometimes the MicroFlex Safe Grip and both are pretty strong as long as you don’t have any latex allergies. I’d definitely recommend the MicroFlex over Hardy these days.
 

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I do not think so. My sense (wife is Japanese and our two sons spend summers in Japan) is that things get done with rigorous dilligence in Japan when they are expected to be performed. It is their culture. Warnings (to an excessive extent) are expected: so they get done.

Even if the guy warning you hates you and would take pleasure in your demise, he will still warn you when warnings are expected since it is a duty. I guess that is good in some ways. But society there is much less free wheeling for better or worse.

I do not mean my comment as a disrespect of Japanese culture. But the mindset and patterns can be very different from what one is used to in the usa and europe. Japanese culture of performing ones best and adherence to duty is why japanese manufacturing can be so good when they have the skills and ability/materials to do so. You see this in Japanese tools.

I appreciate your perspective, thank you for the insight.
 
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