Outlawmws
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I did come home with a vise. Ca. 1914 Bonney "Champion" No. 112 (1-1/2" jaws).
Nice!
Other than the slide shape, very similar to the Colton patent vises in styling.
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Nice!
Other than the slide shape, very similar to the Colton patent vises in styling.
Private Lugnutz
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They are similar.
This is my second Bonney "Champion," the other being a No. 122 3-incher. Three total, with the third being a No. 830 "Garage Vise" with horn jaw inserts. All of them from the "Princeton" logo era.
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It isn’t often that I have the pleasure of introducing something truly “new” to the world of American vises - something that, until very recently, has never seen the light of day in this digital age.
Four, double-sided, 1950s vise signs made by the Athol Machine & Foundry Co. These came directly from the gentleman whose father worked at the LS Starrett Co as a stationary fireman (i.e. a boiler operator) from 1951-1970. These signs are four of sixteen that he saved from extinction while visiting his father at work while Starrett was piling up and scrapping obsolete inventory.
The Athol/Starrett wooden vise patterns came from a completely different source but, as luck would have it, only a few days earlier.
Four, double-sided, 1950s vise signs made by the Athol Machine & Foundry Co. These came directly from the gentleman whose father worked at the LS Starrett Co as a stationary fireman (i.e. a boiler operator) from 1951-1970. These signs are four of sixteen that he saved from extinction while visiting his father at work while Starrett was piling up and scrapping obsolete inventory.
The Athol/Starrett wooden vise patterns came from a completely different source but, as luck would have it, only a few days earlier.
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Oregon rock crusher
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^^^Well damn Micahd.....awesome finds there!
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Thanks, Oregon! Pretty amazing to have them all together.
Private Lugnutz
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Staged beautifully together! Is that your place? Looks like a loft in a converted factory building.
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Thanks a bunch, Private. Unfortunately not my place, but thankfully only about 30 minutes from me. The building is an old cotton mill, most of which has been turned into a wedding venue.
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Just picked up this pre-Desmond-Stephan Simplex Tool Co. 42CP Coachmaker. 1923-1931 according to the internet. Wonder how much rarer these Woonsocket vises are (I’m more of a Wilton/Reed guy).
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I think someone on another site (maybe bvf?) demanded to know who bought those. Great score!
Impressive! I was just in Athol. The two Emmert turtlebacks I picked up last week came from an auction at LS Starrett in Athol.
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Thanks a bunch! Yes, I wanted to keep it quiet until I received them.
Thanks, Mongo! Wow, that’s so neat. Were they NOS?
CRSINMICH
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SoCal: Your vise is fairly rare. Here is a 1936 catalog page showing Simplex vises even though it had become Desmond Stephan by 1932.
They were solidly built vises
They were solidly built vises
No, both Emmerts had been in service. One is complete and just needed some light cleaning, the other is missing a few minor pieces but functional. No broken castings on either.
Outlawmws
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Can any one identify this oval slide w/ 3-1/2" jaw; 6" open'g.? Chas. Parker? Age? Value? more info i.e catalog?
Thanks, Edmund.
I believe I see the outline of the Parker Jaw, (can you get a pic with less rust?) the main screw retainer looks Early Parker to me, is the last No 14 or 44? (I don't think its 11)
Parker made unlabeled vises for other sellers, so may be why no makers name.
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Another "help identify this vise" request. This rather rusty vise is for sale locally and there is only this one picture available. The key identifying characteristics of this vise, at least to my eyes, is the mounting system. It looks like it has a separate toothed/serrated baseplate with a bolt hole at each corner that would be bolted down to the bench. Then it looks like the center bolt could be loosened and the vise body could be lifted and swiveled to different orientations and then tightened back down. Is anyone familiar with style of mounting and specific manufacturers/model numbers?
Thanks, Tom
Thanks, Tom
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Definitely a Reed IMHOAnother "help identify this vise" request. This rather rusty vise is for sale locally and there is only this one picture available. The key identifying characteristics of this vise, at least to my eyes, is the mounting system. It looks like it has a separate toothed/serrated baseplate with a bolt hole at each corner that would be bolted down to the bench. Then it looks like the center bolt could be loosened and the vise body could be lifted and swiveled to different orientations and then tightened back down. Is anyone familiar with style of mounting and specific manufacturers/model numbers?
Thanks, Tom
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Thanks for the reply. I've got it in a vinegar soak now to de-rust. The retainer nos are "11.22.44". Also, I've seen some similar "Parker" oval slide types with a fixed nut in the shaft tunnel, mine has a removable nut that drops out of the bottom when the screw is removed. I'll post some additional pic after the vinegar bath.
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Outlawmws:
I believe you are correct in identifying this as a Parker manufactured vise. However, I believe it was sold by Sargent. Parker's "oval" slide vises were numbered in the thirties - 030, 30, 31, ... .Sargent's in the sixties.
Here is a GJ thread that follows Sargent vises. There is an excellent post by Shiftless explaining.
vintage Sargent & Co bench vise
i have a vintage sargent & co bench vise looking to see what its possibly worth.
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The rather silly 11-22-44 on the nose is also a giveaway. OK, it may not be silly, but why 11-22-44?
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If you search this thread on "Parker oval" you'll see a No. 31 (@mikedodge) and a No. 34 (mine) and catalog pages, (and probably others that I am not aware of), but I'm officially much more on the fence than I was on your vintage board thread. That retaining collar looks Parkerish, and that's where Parker put patent numbers and, later, "PARKER," but "11.22.44" is not a patent date. Neither November 22, 1844 or November 22, 1944 (which seems very late for this style vise anyway) were Tuesdays. I'll be interested in seeing what others have to say.
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Yep
I agree with micahd1997 who identified your mystery vise as a Reed.
About 10 years ago, I found one of that series in a dumpster parked on the street near my house. Unfortunately the big wing nut that goes underneath the bench was missing. That’s a very common problem. I bet guys used to use hammers to tighten and loosen them which of course would snap the cast iron wings off and ruin the piece.
Mine is a combination vise and strangely enough, the pipe jaws are still present. Those are other things that are often removed and lost by previous owners/users of these old vises.
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Thanks! Good info. Did a double take when I saw “Woon” on the side. Thought they were always Desmond Stephan out of Urbana.SoCal: Your vise is fairly rare. Here is a 1936 catalog page showing Simplex vises even though it had become Desmond Stephan by 1932.
They were solidly built vises
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Beerhippie
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November 22, 1944?
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And it's not a Tuesday.