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Make sure of the correct spark plugs. The plug in your picture is a tapered seat type. If original cylinder heads a '69 should have a flat base on the cylinder head and a spark plug with a gasket. I believe Chevrolet changed from gasketed spark plugs to tapered seat in 1971.

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Make sure of the correct spark plugs. The plug in your picture is a tapered seat type. If original cylinder heads a '69 should have a flat base on the cylinder head and a spark plug with a gasket. I believe Chevrolet changed from gasketed spark plugs to tapered seat in 1971.

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Lou, I believe I need to pull valve covers to find casting numbers on the heads to get specific details, but in the mean time, what can you deduce from these pics?

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I don't know much about small block chevy engine codes but your suffix (MN) seems to be a 4" bore block for a car (327 or 350) in '67 or '68. Truck small blocks of that era started with U, V, W, or X as far as I can tell.

I'm at a loss on the cylinder heads. I can't tell, for sure, from the picture which spark plug is correct and the casting marks might be for a later head. Definitely get to the casting numbers. Once you've determined which plug is correct, get the proper spark plug tap as it will also have a reamer for the spark plug seat.

Sorry I haven't been more help but I haven't really done much with small block Chevys since the 80's so my memory is a bit vague.

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I don't know much about small block chevy engine codes but your suffix (MN) seems to be a 4" bore block for a car (327 or 350) in '67 or '68. Truck small blocks of that era started with U, V, W, or X as far as I can tell.

I'm at a loss on the cylinder heads. I can't tell, for sure, from the picture which spark plug is correct and the casting marks might be for a later head. Definitely get to the casting numbers. Once you've determined which plug is correct, get the proper spark plug tap as it will also have a reamer for the spark plug seat.

Sorry I haven't been more help but I haven't really done much with small block Chevys since the 80's so my memory is a bit vague.

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I appreciate the assistance! I've got some more digging to do and will do my best to keep up-to-date posts coming.
 
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The Corvette club participated in a local Veterans Day Parade. I borrowed a C6 Grand Sport convertible and one of The Youngest's old classmates drove the C5. The weather was beautiful which was a real treat for November.
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The Cougar club had a holiday party at Griot's. A beautiful Cobra Jet-powered XR7 was used to demonstrate some of their products.
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I've dropped off a used Ford AOD with my transmission builder. It's a junkyard find, so no idea on the condition. He'll give it the works and next year we'll see if we can't get it swapped into the 68 Cougar next year. BTW, it just randomly started puking transmission fluid again this past week. For the life of me, I can't figure out what prompted it - it hasn't even been moved since we put the stone tile in the garage back in October. Weird ..and annoying

On Saturday morning, The Wife and I made the trip back down south to the restoration store. We returned the toe boards and picked up a full firewall along with the driver side cowl pieces.

The body shop has already cut out all the damaged floor pan and is fitting the new pan in place. After getting into it, they had discovered the toe boards would not be adequate and after some discussion, we made the decision to replace the firewall.

With that in mind, they are at the phase where they want to accomplish several thousand dollars per month in labor, so I've taken on a second job working five nights a week (Fri thru Tues) to cover that expense. I probably won't be very chatty in the future as my time is pretty much occupied with work.

No updates on the new project truck. I've got some spark plug thread chasers that I'll use soon and get plugs put back in.
 
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On Saturday, we picked up a bunch of reproduction sheet metal for the Nova project over the weekend... both quarters, both outer wheel wells, tail light panel, deck filler panel, both drop offs, and both door skins.

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Despite crummy weather, The Wife spent Sunday afternoon de-skinning the doors.

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I will be dropping them off for media blasting tomorrow.

Also, she got me something fun for the garage as a Christmas present that I need to get installed this weekend. I'll get pics after it is installed.
 
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In addition to dropping off the Nova doors on Friday, we got the final trimming done on the floor pan and punch holes along the perimeter before dropping it into place. It still needs welded in place. Then the body guy will pull out the front driver corner before we replace the fire wall.

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storage rack arrived in the mail this past week
Is this the storage rack, with all the cleaning & detailing products? Would you mind sharing a link? Thanks!
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Is this the storage rack, with all the cleaning & detailing products? Would you mind sharing a link? Thanks!
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zanyad, I was referring to the new Griot's Triple Polisher Rack.

If you want to know about the shelving - I built it using standard lumber and black gas pipe. I talk about the process here. It was a royal pain in the **** to assemble, and the gas pipe is expensive.
 
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Some family news...

After seven years of saving and months of shopping, The Oldest is officially under contract for his own home. And yes, there is a garage! Expect a new thread with the new garage after closing (a month away). The new garage does not have tall ceilings, so we will be purchasing the 4-post lift from him and keeping it here at our garage.

Very proud of him for making this happen.
 

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Congrats to the Oldest!

If you want to know about the shelving, I built it using standard lumber and black gas pipe. I talk about the process here. It was a royal pain in the **** to assemble, and the gas pipe is expensive.
Yep, that's what I was referring to. Looks like I hadn't subscribed when you posted the shelf build. Thanks for the link!
 
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We successfully moved The Oldest into his house. There is a detached 3-car garage behind the house.

It was originally a 2-car garage, but someone added a 16ft-wide 3rd bay at some point. We don't if it was built as a paint booth or if someone added filtered ventilations later, but it is has definitely been used as a paint booth.

The original 2-car bay has been freshly sheet rocked by the sellers.

We will swap out the old fluorescent light fixtures in the 3rd bay with LED lights and install matching LEDs in the original 2-car bay. At the same time, we will paint the walls. That is about all he wants done at this time. I will probably install some sort of stereo so we can have tunes while we work in his garage.

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Back at the Little Garage in the Big Woods, we threw The Wife's Suburban on the lift this past weekend and replaced a bearing/hub assembly. The lift sure is nice for working on vehicles.

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This week, I will be completing another journey around our nearest star. Add to that my mental illness of insisting on having more cars than appropriate storage, and the result is picking up another project.

Yesterday, I purchased a 1971 Corvette equipped with a 454. It runs, drives, and looks good at a distance. The previous owner had the car for decades and was primarily concerned it would go to a home where it would not be abused.

The Oldest's '64 is still on the lift in the garage, so the new car is parked in his garage for a few days.

Here's a few details on car...

The car was originally Mulsanne Blue, but was painted Maroon (it looks similar to Marlboro Maroon which was not an offered color in 1971). The car was repainted before the seller owned the car, so I'm guessing it was done in the 80's or very early 90's. It doesn't look it was prepped properly, so the more finicky areas have a lot of paint peeling/chipping off. The crevices on the hood and the "egg crates" on the fenders are particularly bad. There is also a fair amount of bubbles in the paint which we've seen before on the yellow 1973 father/son project we had years ago. The worst part of the body is decent sized crack in the fiber glass near the front bumper on the driver side. My initial inspection of the car didn't reveal any evidence of a collision, so the crack must be from something else. Once we get it up on the lift, I might be able to find out it's source and how difficult a repair it could be.

The interior is in decent condition. I'm pretty sure I detect some mouse smell, so a deep dive into all nooks and crannies will be necessary to ensure they evicted properly. The center console/dash area has been "enhanced" with real, stained wood which is period-correct for the other interior modifications (tape deck, and a rear speaker box also made from matching stained woods). The steering wheel has been wrapped in leather, and I must admit it was done very nicely. Initial drives reveal the tachometer isn't working at all. Still need to investigate the rest of the gauges for proper operation.

The rear glass is removable on the 68-72 Corvettes. I haven't attempted to remove the glass on this one yet, but it looks like it might be glued in place with silicone.

Under the hood, you again notice period-correct "upgrades"... Mallory coil, aftermarket valve covers, chrome air cleaner and chrome alternator. The chrome shields around the ignition components are long gone. The worst part is someone has ripped out all the A/C components including the accessory brackets.

I haven't found the date codes on the tires yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are 20 years old or more. The vacuum system for the headlights and wiper door has some hiccups and will need some TLC. I detect slight clunk at the rear of car and my initial suspicion is the half shaft u-joints.

I'm sure the car will make a lot appearances in upcoming posts and I'm looking forward to sorting out everything as we begin to enjoy the car. If the weather is nice this weekend, I'll get some more photos.

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paint is flaking off in the egg crates - again, hard to reach areas probably weren't prepped properly
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poor photo of the crack at the front of the car - with the dark color and location behind the bumper, it almost dissapears
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Congrats on the latest Corvette addition. I think the L88 style hood looks good and it being a big block motor you get away with the hood upgrade in my eyes!

The egg crates are a pain to paint but time & prep is your friend. I used pin stripe frog tape on these which took 20 x longer to apply than to paint. They were off a 1971 LT-1 that I restored and is long gone now as I just couldn't bond with the colour. That small block on the bottom is for a hard to find screw accessed from below if you intend removing yours.

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The annual open house hosted by one of the Corvette clubs in Tacoma was on Saturday. They provide lunch, and all the regional clubs come and share their activity lists for the coming season. Fourteen folks from our club made the trip with some of us cruising together.

I decided to make the trip in the new 1971 which my mom has nicknamed "Boston Baked Bean". Before Saturday, I had only driven the car about 1 mile which was the distance from the DOL office to The Oldest's new house. My restored plate had shown up on Friday, and since the weather was nice, I took the '64 over to his house, installed the plate on the '71, and headed out. The mounting points for the plate had some extra wear and tear from the years, so it took some hodgepodge of hardware to get it securely fastened in place.

A few of us rendezvoused at the local dealership in town before hitting the highway. The car cruises nicely, but belches out clouds of black smoke if you romp on it. It is in dire need of a tune up. The clunk was still intermittently present when coming to stop or taking off. Other items I noticed included the passenger side pop up headlight being very stubborn about wanting raise, the radio would not power on at all, the voltmeter, clock, odometer, and tachometer are all non-functional. The vacuum operated windshield wiper panel, however, worked every time I tested it. The passenger power window worked fine, but the driver window will not go down without assistance.

The white '64 in our group experienced an issue right after getting on the highway and circled back home to swap out for another vehicle.

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We rolled up to the open house just at the right time to get front door parking. Someone from another club snagged a photo of part of our club coming down the road. The official count was 133 Corvettes in attendance. I never heard a head count for people, but I'm certain it was over 200.

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Not a bad way to spend an afternoon and road test the new ride. Not surprisingly, the car guzzles gas. It used 3/4 of tank for the trip. I know it will never get good mileage, but I'm hoping a tune up will help a little.
 
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I snagged a few more quick photos of Boston Baked Bean when I got it home and in the garage.

Someone threw a Holley catalogue at it back in the day - valve covers, air cleaner, carb, and intake are all vintage Holley. Not only is the coil a Mallory, but it has some cool old Mallory wire loom brackets sprinkled around.

The center console area and rear stereo speakers are the only other period correct customizations I've seen.

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these Pioneer 6x9's are early 1980's vintage
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Someone has definitely attempted to seal up the back glass with silicone.

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A little mishap on the bike yesterday morning going into work. About halfway through the 30 mile drive, I picked up something in the rear tire and experienced a flat.

Unfortunately, all flatbeds where immediately unavailable from the local tow company, so I had to wait 3 hours for the next available truck. In the meantime, I attracted the attention of a state trooper who called the tow company in an effort to hurry them up. They told him 45 minutes, so he put out flares and took off. An hour later. the flares burned out and WA DOT incident response vehicle showed up. The first thing the driver said to me was, this has been a long 45 minutes, eh? He called the tow company and they told him 20 minutes which ended up being pretty accurate. I had the bike towed back to my garage.

Because it was Monday, no motorcycle shops were open. I'll call around today and see who has a tire available. I already yanked the rear wheel off the bike and optimistically put it in the back of The Wife's vehicle as my preferred motorcycle shop is located across the street from where she works.

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In unrelated news, my transmission guy called saying the AOD transmission for the '68 Cougar is finished. I will pick it up tomorrow. Not sure when I'll have time to try to retro-fit the overdrive into the Cougar, but I would like to get it roadworthy again!
 
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Sooooooo busy. Working two jobs and volunteering for organizations leaves little time for keeping up to date on activities around the garage.

The weekend after the bike had a flat, we led a Cougar Club cruise out for lunch and a visit the Wild Felid Advocacy Center of Washington. The weather was beautiful during our cruise and visit, but it rained on the way home. The yellow 69 Eliminator lost an alternator belt (discovered at lunch stop), but the battery held on long enough to visit the cats and then make it to a parts store.

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I also had just enough time to install the rear wheel back on the bike with a fresh tire that weekend.

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Those that ride know a new tire can be a little greasy when you first ride it. That Monday morning I left for work and the bike felt extra loose on some areas of the highway. I go into my day job really early (leave home just after 4am) which means there is much traffic. I took it easy and made it to work although I was still a little puckered when I got to my desk.

Turns out, there was black ice all over the highway (in March!?). There were so many wrecks shortly after I went through, the highway ended up getting shut down for a short while. Many people were late to work because there were so many wrecks throughout the county. I can only say someone upstairs must have been looking out for me. The route mentioned in the last post below is the exact route I take to work.


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The next weekend, The Oldest brought his 73 Stingray over for an oil change. The lift really makes easy work of tasks like that, and the light kit really is genius. Pollen season was at its peak this weekend too. The video shows what accumulated in less than 48 hours.

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To add to intense pollen storm, on tax day, parts of Kitsap County had a hail storms with quite a bit of accumulation. It looked like snow in some areas. I got caught in the deepest areas after work running an errand in the Corvette.


The weekend after tax day, I took the 71 over to a friend's house to look at the Holley carb and check out the ignition situation. We wanted to check the timing first, but the timing light wasn't responding properly to the car. We kept fiddling with it, and we discovered the timing light wouldn't work unless you slid the inductive pickup all the way up towards the distributor. We attributed it to a weak signal which would explain why all 8 plugs were severely fouled with black carbon.

In the middle of all that, the gear on the starter motor broke, so we had to lift the car and remove that. I discovered many extra wires that were tapping battery power off the positive post on the starter. I knew there were a lot of electrical "improvements" done to the car, and now I have place to start tracking stuff down. I'm guessing one (or more) of these extra wires is the source of my battery drain.

After hitting two parts stores, we finally had a new starter and could resume the trouble shooting. We discovered the distributor had been outfitted with Pertronix components which eliminated the points, condenser, etc. We thought the old Mallory coil might be the issue, so we borrowed the Pertronix 12v coil off my friend's Nova, but it didn't seem to make a difference.

We decided the wiring to the coil was potential source of problems, but had run out of time since I had to go to work. We left the Nova coil in the car and I drove it home. I quickly removed it when I got home and dropped it back off at his house on the way to work.

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No matter how we tuned and wired the ignition, the car ran very rough and would ping at wide-open-throttle. More to follow later...
 
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I am a delivery driver for Domino's at my second job, but once every other week, I work inside the store. I sometimes drive one of the fun cars to work on those nights. In mid-April, a local guy drive in his Firebird. He lives close the store, and I drive past the car very frequently when delivering pizzas. It was fun to meet him.

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The last Saturday of April, the Corvette club worked our section of Highway 16 through the Adopt-a-Highway program. Our local Chevy dealership helps by providing parking and a loaner Suburban to haul our gear and volunteers. In addition to large items, we collected 44 bags of trash.

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On Friday, May 1st, The Wife drove the 02 Vette to work because her Suburban was at the dealership for some maintenance. Someone hit the car while it was parked at work, but thankfully they left a note. The other driver has been a complete gentleman, but we have been arguing with his insurance (USAA) for a long time before they would accept fault. It finally went into the shop yesterday (June 15th).
The other driver has a large truck and forgot he parked next to a small Corvette, when he pulled out of his spot, he turned too sharp and dragged his rear passenger tire across the driver front corner of the Corvette. The car is drivable, but the damage still needed repaired.


Conveniently, we were already borrowing another Corvette that same weekend. The same gentleman who sold The Oldest the 1964 convertible now owns a C6 Grand Sport Convertible. He surgery that required many weeks of recovery and wanted his car to be able to support some of the community parades we attend during the month of May. The Wife loves the C6 Grand Sport and happily volunteered to drive it home.

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The following weekend the C6 made the trip way out on the Olympic Peninsula and carried Junior Royalty in the Sequim Irrigation Festival Parade. Then the weekend after that, it carried the commanding officer of the USS Ronald Reagan. I had a great time chatting with Captain Gregory and we discovered we were old shipmates. We both served on two deployments on the USS Abraham Lincoln back in early 2000's. We commiserated about the hardships we endured as we enjoyed the nice weather through the parade route.

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The last two weekends of May, we spent working on The Oldest's garage. We primed and painted the walls and ceilings. We also wired/installed 18 flush-mount LED lights in the larger bay. It only had a single lightbulb fixture which was not enough lighting. The smaller bay old fluorescent shop lights which were removed and new LED shop lights are going in. We aren't finished, but it's already much nicer than when we started. We also started painting the garage door hardware which will make a big impact when finished.

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The garage door on the larger bay of The Oldest's garage is new, but the smaller bay has a very old and very dingy door. We scrubbed it clean and I used the Rust-oleum TURBO cans for the first time. WOW! They lay down paint very fast. It was the perfect product for that application.

Ultimately, all the garage hardware will be painted black. It'll be a bit before we can get back over there and pick up this side project.

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The first weekend of June, I took the 70 Cougar out to an Orphan/Discontinued car show hosted by the Corvair club. It was a smaller show, but there were a lot of interesting cars. The Cougar didn't win any awards, but I did win a nice raffle prize.

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This past weekend I installed all new Pertronix Ignitor III parts in the Boston Baked Bean Corvette. Included with that was a new 12v coil. I ran a new wire from the ignition circuit off the fuse box. No surprise, there were already a couple of wires tapped off that circuit running over towards the defunct radio. I also noticed the fuse for the windshield wiper was missing. Odd.

The car ran much better (but not great) after installing the new equipment. A timing light worked properly at least. There is still something not right because it wants to ping at wide-open-throttle and still doesn't like to idle smoothly no matter where you park the timing. My plan was to drive it around for a week or two, check the plugs, and then attack the tune again.
Last night, I drove it work for my bi-weekly shift working at the ovens. I took a quick cruise after work, but it it quickly wanted to die when idling and not want to start after dying. Hmmm... better not drive it far from home until I get hat sorted out. At least the evening was beautiful and made for some good photos...

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Port Orchard boat launch, Navy mothball fleet, and sunset over the Olympics
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