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New Pole shed with cement and good garage door, mouse proof?

weatherby460

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Looking at adding onto my Morton and doing just cold storage, meaning the shell, cement, and insulated garage door. Will it be mouse proof?, or can mice get in between cement and the walls? Thanks I'm not exactly sure how they do it.
 
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racecougar

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Pretty hard to be mouse proof, but you can make it mouse resistant. 🙂. The most likely entry point will be around the garage door. Make sure it's correctly adjusted and tight, with no gaps in the weatherstripping.
Agreed. Particularly at the corners. I recommend copying this using a little trim coil.


Beyond that, it comes down to the building design and attention to detail during the assembly of the building. Features like stem walls, rat guard, closure strips, etc. help here. The building needs to be tight.
 

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I once watched a mouse squeeze through a hole in the ceiling my old house, the hole was drilled for a speaker wire for surround sound. Probably less than 1/4" hole with wire passing through it. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it. After that I pretty much stopped trying to keep mice out and instead just catch them using the bucket trap method.
 
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Do the best you can and then trap them. Do NOT poison them. They eat the poison, start feeling bad and find someplace secluded to rest. But then they die. And you don't know they are there until you smell them.
 

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My pest control folks used to recommend stuffing steel wool into any cracks, but I know how flammable steel wool can be. Gap filler spray foam does not work well because its very easy for them to eat through it.

Online I found rolls of copper mesh for a rodent barrier that is supposed to work well to keep rodents out of small cracks and spaces. Its easy to insert when rolled up or crushed into a ball, and they can't eat through it.
 

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Managed a school in Brooklyn NY, it was very involved to rodent proof my building. Every exterior door need a metal strip on the bottom with an 1/8" clearance; originally I installed the strips with a 1/4-3/8" gap between the door and the frame, that did not work. I used a combination of copper mesh (Ebay) and foam on any holes in the building envelope .
 

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My pest control folks used to recommend stuffing steel wool into any cracks, but I know how flammable steel wool can be. Gap filler spray foam does not work well because its very easy for them to eat through it.

Online I found rolls of copper mesh for a rodent barrier that is supposed to work well to keep rodents out of small cracks and spaces. Its easy to insert when rolled up or crushed into a ball, and they can't eat through it.

Copper mesh stuffed into holes or a copper version of steel wool work very well to eliminate chew through. You can spray expanding foam into the mesh too in order to seal better and further thwart (keeps the copper wires in place while air-sealing). The combined impact is large. I do not usually see copper mesh/wool in stores, but you can easily order it online. The mesh is easy to work with and cut with scissors. I am not sure why the mice and rats do not chew through it since, in principle, they could easily do so. Fut they seem to dislike it enough not to try.

Generally speaking high attention to detail on seals is needed to prevent mice and rats from getting in. Low is most important, but for rats you may also need to worry about above the foundation and even roof. Also, make sure the interior is dry with no water sources. Availability of water (leaking pipes & fittings, ground seepage spots etc) can make the space much more inviting to mice and rats. I have a house that I rent in Cali that is in a field/wooded area on a hillside. If the crawl space below the house gets wet, it is near impossible to keep them from finding a way in (or making their own way). But if it is dry and penetration seals, vents, etc are rigorously maintained, it vastly decreases the issue. Always look for signs (droppings etc) if you think they got in and then seek out any potential issues. I try to keep it dry and sealed with a lot of poison bait traps (sorry, but have to do something and they do work) around the interior perimeter.

I would also add that if you are in a termite area keeping everything dry and vented along with well sealed keeps that nasty problem from occurring. Any water near wood is bad news. In Cali when they swarm to make new colonies, they are *everywhere* and they will find every and any opportunity for a new home ... in your home or wherever.
 

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I put a green scotch brite pad trapped under the overhead door gasket on each side, to make them crawl across that abrasive each way. I think that's their most likely point of entry. But, it seems like it could be working as they don't seem to be hanging out inside.
 

Beerhippie

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Are we talking about a basic Morton exterior? The raised panel ribs will be your battle. How are you planning on doing that portion of the building?
You invent a 100% mouse-proof structure and you'll never have to work again.
My pest control folks used to recommend stuffing steel wool into any cracks, but I know how flammable steel wool can be. Gap filler spray foam does not work well because its very easy for them to eat through it.
I seal the gaps in raised rib steel siding with steel wool embedded in foam. Works great. Steel wool is only flammable due to the surface area exposed to air--no air, no problem. This also keeps mud daubers and paper wasps from building nests there.

But the mice still get in... just not as many.

Tin Cat is my friend:

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Don't get the ones with the transparent top. We had both and the transparent ones hardly caught any mice while the closed ones would pack 'em in. A glob of peanut butter inside the rim for bait. I add glue boards inside. "You can check out, but you can never leave".
 
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