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neophyte

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They have to in Europe. Noise & vibration. Here exemplary for the first Hilti (SF 4-22) I found:

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Olli
Hilti annoyingly doesn’t list info like this in the USA.
They do however actually make tools for US blade standards though, which is less annoying than Festool.
 
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Do they still sell soda in glass bottles with caps at the grocery stores? All I've ever seen in over ten years are plastic bottles with screw caps.

Yes. If you keep an eye peeled, you might find Coca Cola or Fanta in glass bottles -- made in Mexico with cane sugar. Good stuff!

EDIT: Just yesterday afternoon I did have such a Mexican-made Fanta in a tall glass bottle.
 
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Dewalt still offers a cordless drill with a three speed gear box, with 2000rpm rotation.
(I have no clue about noise).
(If I recall correctly, Dewalt, or maybe Hilti were the first to offer an gear for higher speed in a cordless drill).

Fein makes a cordless drill with a four speed gear box with 430/850/2000/4000rpm rotational speeds.
But with the Fein you would need to buy into the AmpShare system.

Festool also offers a four speed drill, but again, different battery system.

Hilti offers a four speed drill as well, but the top speed is around 2200 rpms.

All of these drills either come with, or can use an all steel chuck.
Of course the negative with the non-Dewalt drills would be battery systems.

Fein supposedly actually makes their tools for industrial users, so they include sound and vibration information.

Dewalt and Hilti don’t list sounds specs, at least on their US sites, although maybe if you can find the equivalent models on Euro sites the information would be listed.

Thanks for the info.

The DeWalt 20V battery drill I have is 3 speed: But on the highest speed setting, I think my drill is only hitting 2,200 rpm. That is not fast enough to rapidly drill small diameter holes by hand. My DeWalt 20V impact driver with a hex chuck is likely hitting 3,200 rpm peak or a bit more. That seems to be a good speed for rapidly drilling common small hole sizes ~1/8" to 1/16" for predrills for screws and any countersink (if needed in harder woods). So I would like to see a max speed of around 3,200 rpm - 4,000 rpm. I do not think DeWalt makes drills with that high rpms at present -- however they are plenty slow in low speeds for drilling large holes with a lot of torque (actually enough where you need to be careful if they bind). Lightweight and balance can usually be met by using the drill or impact with smaller batteries around 2 Ah capacity. I find I can go quite some time with both drills and impact with 20V, 2 Ah battery packs. IF I am doing a lot of drilling and driving, I keep one battery in the charger while using another and swap every now and then. It does not slow me down and reduces use and positioning fatigue keeping small battery packs in the tools.

That is a good suggestion on looking at Euro vendors for noise specs. It also makes sense that industrial users would be concerned about noise for workers potentially doing something repetitively all day. I user battery impact and drills pretty heavily in spurts in my extensive DIY work. I am pretty sure the DeWalt drills when hammer drilling are way out of bounds with the risk of induced hearing damage. Realistically, one should wear some ear protection hammer drilling in concrete. But external cups over plugs is very uncomfortable to work in when it is hot.

By the way, I have noticed the last few years that DeWalt battery packs with small Ah capacity (I would have thought they use the same cells in all) have become junk. I am not sure if they replaced their vendors for more profit (switch from Korea or Japan cells to China?) and that is impacting life with stronger drain cycles on small packs (I often run them to near depleted). But after having battery packs last easily 5+ years with spurts of very heavy use, they are showing up bad on purchase or dying within a year to two years of use now. DeWalt has been pretty good about the warranty without too much hassle. However, it is still a pain and I have no faith of them working long after the few year warranty cycle at this point. When the battery dies, I temporarily go back to using larger batteries (5 Ah or even a 9 Ah I have for a string trimmer + blower). That strongly reinforces the benefit of using small battery packs on ergonomics, fatigue, and positioning (impacting quality of work). It is odd to me that DeWalt usually sell drill and impact kits with larger 5 Ah batteries. I suspect this is because your average big box store customers think that the larger capacity numbers are all for the better without much thought on tool weight or balance in use.
 
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They have to in Europe. Noise & vibration. Here exemplary for the first Hilti (SF 4-22) I found:

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COPYRIGHT HILTI

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COPYRIGHT HILTI

Kind regards,
Olli

That is both good and impressive that they release full info. Hilti tools are typically very expensive, but also typically perform well with high attention to design detail and build quality.

My corded SDS hammer drill is a Hilti TE-5C and it is super good: powerful, low noise, well balanced, safer (clutch is super good in the event of binding), and drills much much faster and better than any battery impacts I have used. If I am making more than a hole or two in somewhere out the way, it is well worth running the cord to use. In an earthquake retrofit I drilled hundreds of ~1/2 - 3/4" deep holes in 50 year old hard concrete. I would have been suicidal if doing just a few with my DeWalt battery impact drill. The Hilti would rapidly drill them with minimal effort or reasonable noise.
 
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Mexican Coke comes in glass bottles, and you even need a bottle opener.


Yes, glass bottled soda still exists.
Other than Mexican Coke, there is Virgil’s Root Beer, and other Virgil’s beverages,
various “premium” sodas routinely sold at places like Whole Foods and other “Health Food” stores,
Various beverage brands probably made in South and Central America, for brands based in those areas, that are routinely available at Walmart,
Various brands sold at Trader Joes, etc.

Glass is a much better storage container relative to plastic. It is not air permeable and the surface is inert. On the downside it is HEAVY to ship and more breakage prone with inevitable oopsies. It probably also takes a lot more energy to make if not recycled.

Long ago coke etc was distributed in glass recycle (meaning return for deposit, then wash out and refill -- which takes much less energy than melting down or processing from raw materials) bottles in the USA. Those days are long gone. That deposit, wash, refill model may make some sense in terms of a storage quality and energy use perspective. But as many know, us Americans are notorious worldwide on being able to eat anything regardless of quality or lack thereof. I remember reading years ago in the 1st gulf war that the Egyptian army was gifted some US army MRE (Meals Ready to Eat) prepackaged for soldiers. They could not believe that army solders from a rich country were eating MREs without a mutiny. Our soldiers ... mostly no issues with them. Ah, the advantages of being raised on canned spaghetti-o's !!! At least if one makes it to middle age in reasonable health without several bouts of bowl cancer ...
 
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For 50% off, I couldn’t resist

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No comment on Icon intended here, but I very rarely have been able to get good results using spline type extractors: only if the head snaps off and it is not otherwise damaged and just need a little bite to get the lower portion out. I find that a left handed bit will usually work in cases where a spline extractor can work anyway: just the drilling can back it out. If not, then put the spline extractor in the hole and try ... then plan B, C, D, ...

All that being said, it is generally best to have multi types of options for extractions and also have some luck!
 
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That’s what I figured. Lowes is the same way about exchanging a screwdriver or a socket. Gotta bring the whole set back.
That is ridiculous and proof that these stores are run by idiots without a lick of common sense. Pop the piece needed from the set on the shelf and do whatever they'd normally do with the originally purchased set had you returned the entire thing. SMART folks might then discount the new set missing a piece and meanwhile have it on hand for further warranty claims. Hmm, who operates like that in the tool world?
 

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No comment on Icon intended here, but I very rarely have been able to get good results using spline type extractors: only if the head snaps off and it is not otherwise damaged and just need a little bite to get the lower portion out.

All that being said, it is generally best to have multi types of options for extractions and also have some luck!
You are not alone. I have had way more success welding a nut to something than using any extractor regardless of type.
 

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Thanks for the info.

The DeWalt 20V battery drill I have is 3 speed: But on the highest speed setting, I think my drill is only hitting 2,200 rpm. That is not fast enough to rapidly drill small diameter holes by hand. My DeWalt 20V impact driver with a hex chuck is likely hitting 3,200 rpm peak or a bit more. That seems to be a good speed for rapidly drilling common small hole sizes ~1/8" to 1/16" for predrills for screws and any countersink (if needed in harder woods). So I would like to see a max speed of around 3,200 rpm - 4,000 rpm. I do not think DeWalt makes drills with that high rpms at present -- however they are plenty slow in low speeds for drilling large holes with a lot of torque (actually enough where you need to be careful if they bind). Lightweight and balance can usually be met by using the drill or impact with smaller batteries around 2 Ah capacity. I find I can go quite some time with both drills and impact with 20V, 2 Ah battery packs. IF I am doing a lot of drilling and driving, I keep one battery in the charger while using another and swap every now and then. It does not slow me down and reduces use and positioning fatigue keeping small battery packs in the tools.

That is a good suggestion on looking at Euro vendors for noise specs. It also makes sense that industrial users would be concerned about noise for workers potentially doing something repetitively all day. I user battery impact and drills pretty heavily in spurts in my extensive DIY work. I am pretty sure the DeWalt drills when hammer drilling are way out of bounds with the risk of induced hearing damage. Realistically, one should wear some ear protection hammer drilling in concrete. But external cups over plugs is very uncomfortable to work in when it is hot.

By the way, I have noticed the last few years that DeWalt battery packs with small Ah capacity (I would have thought they use the same cells in all) have become junk. I am not sure if they replaced their vendors for more profit (switch from Korea or Japan cells to China?) and that is impacting life with stronger drain cycles on small packs (I often run them to near depleted). But after having battery packs last easily 5+ years with spurts of very heavy use, they are showing up bad on purchase or dying within a year to two years of use now. DeWalt has been pretty good about the warranty without too much hassle. However, it is still a pain and I have no faith of them working long after the few year warranty cycle at this point. When the battery dies, I temporarily go back to using larger batteries (5 Ah or even a 9 Ah I have for a string trimmer + blower). That strongly reinforces the benefit of using small battery packs on ergonomics, fatigue, and positioning (impacting quality of work). It is odd to me that DeWalt usually sell drill and impact kits with larger 5 Ah batteries. I suspect this is because your average big box store customers think that the larger capacity numbers are all for the better without much thought on tool weight or balance in use.
One of the Dewalt screwgun models runs at a max speed of 4850rpms.
Admittedly, you would have to to push against the bit yo activate the clutch so the bit turns, but that might be another option.
It does mention a “lock on” mode.


 

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Stahlwille 4630 DRALL+ Phillips screwdriver PH0, PH1, PH2
Stahlwille 4620 DRALL+ Slotted (flared) screwdriver 4x0.8mm
Filling some gaps my original set didn't cover. I had various older ones in these sizes, but it's good to have quality and consistency.
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PB Swiss 1206 wing driver hex key 2, 2.5, 3mm
PB Swiss 1406 wing driver Torx key T10
These seemed the perfect type and length (60mm shaft) of key for these small sizes. Usually grub screws and bicycle stuff. Larger sizes don't have the fingertip spinning nub, and the handles of the largest sizes are P rather than T shaped (presumably that allows for more torque to be applied). More prominent size markings might have been good to have if you had many sizes, especially in Torx.
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Facom AR.CJ4 pick and hook set
They were on offer, and Isoryl is pretty/classic as I found with my nut drivers. The tips are slightly daintier than the Stahlwille ones but still on the sturdy end (unlike PB Swiss). Handles are quite slim. Made in France, not sure if they're still making them or running down old stock. They also do a similar spatula set AR.SPJ4 but I can't imagine a use I'd have for it.
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Stahlwille 12375 Spark plug brass wire brush
These are good for some light cleaning of rust and stubborn gunk without damaging the surface too much. I did my used Belzer 1952 wrench with it. Bare wood, so I'll treat it with boiled linseed oil which worked well on my Pferd file brush.
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Pressol Oiler 125ml 06 864
Ballistol universal oil 500ml
Another one of these oilers for treating tools and equipment. Many of my larger tools are in a non temperature controlled shed, and so are prone to condensation, and at risk of eventually rusting.
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Glass is a much better storage container relative to plastic. It is not air permeable and the surface is inert. On the downside it is HEAVY to ship and more breakage prone with inevitable oopsies. It probably also takes a lot more energy to make if not recycled.

Long ago coke etc was distributed in glass recycle (meaning return for deposit, then wash out and refill -- which takes much less energy than melting down or processing from raw materials) bottles in the USA. Those days are long gone. That deposit, wash, refill model may make some sense in terms of a storage quality and energy use perspective. But as many know, us Americans are notorious worldwide on being able to eat anything regardless of quality or lack thereof. I remember reading years ago in the 1st gulf war that the Egyptian army was gifted some US army MRE (Meals Ready to Eat) prepackaged for soldiers. They could not believe that army solders from a rich country were eating MREs without a mutiny. Our soldiers ... mostly no issues with them. Ah, the advantages of being raised on canned spaghetti-o's !!! At least if one makes it to middle age in reasonable health without several bouts of bowl cancer ...

1. It's been decades since I've been there, but Mexico hung on to bottle return/wash/reuse for soda bottles long after the U.S. did. The bottles wound up looking a little worn and you'll never convince the OCD crowd they won't get cooties. I have no idea if there's a higher bottle failure rate/glass in eye/lawsuit problem, though. That could be another reason we stopped.

2. One joke I have heard was MRE = meals rejected by Ethiopians

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Pressol Oiler 125ml 06 864
Ballistol universal oil 500ml
Another one of these oilers for treating tools and equipment. Many of my larger tools are in a non temperature controlled shed, and so are prone to condensation, and at risk of eventually rusting.
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Have you used the

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I'm really hoping you'll like it because I ordered one... This is what I usually use, and for a lot of what I do. It's a little On the small side for some things that I do
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Yesterday I had a bunch of pliers out working in an environment where water was being sprayed everywhere and I used ballastal on the tools when I was done and it was kind of annoying just because that container is so small.

So thanks for posting that
 

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Various beverage brands probably made in South and Central America, for brands based in those areas, that are routinely available at Walmart,

Oh yeah, Jarritos brand soda, coming in many colorful, fruity flavors, found not just in Mexican markets but Wal-Mart, some hardware stores, convenience stores. Made in Mexico, glass bottle, and I'm assuming cane sugar.

And I just want to say again that a Knipex Cobra removes bottle caps just fine, too. ;)
 
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Have you used the

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I'm really hoping you'll like it because I ordered one
Yes. You saw the first one linked, that's a year ago now. It's fine, just keep enough tube out and keep it fuller than 1/3rd.

There are a few sizes, and it's sold under a few brands, including Gedore 298-01 as reviewed here by German Tool Reviews:

His channel is where I learnt of Ballistol too:
 

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I bought a modern scan tool. I wasn't eager to, not at all, but the missus has brought two modern cars into my life that are giving TPMS headaches, so here is the Autel TPMS tool. $220.30 from Amazon before tax.



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Fiddled with it some the other day and, well, this is going to take more homework. I started to get the impression that all four sensors of the big white van are snoozing or dead, but it can talk to a sensor I know is working on the old BMW.

I did register it and update its software, which was my first worry. That can be done over wifi, so I am not chained to the "own a PC type computer" path.
 
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I bought a modern scan tool. I wasn't eager to, not at all, but the missus has brought two modern cars into my life that are giving TPMS headaches, so here is the Autel TPMS tool. $220.30 from Amazon before tax.



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Fiddled with it some the other day and, well, this is going to take more homework. I started to get the impression that all four sensors of the big white van are snoozing or dead, but it can talk to a sensor I know is working on the old BMW.

I did register it and update its software, which was my first worry. That can be done over wifi, so I am not chained to the "own a PC type computer" path.
Will that calibrate my "Mk I tire checker foot"?
 

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Ridgid combo kit, blower, string trimmer, 4ah battery, and charger. The current HD price for the combo is $249.00. This is less than the current blower price of $251.82 ($10 more than when I purchased the combo). It's like getting the string trimmer (current price $189.00) and the battery/charger for no additional charge (nothing is free, there's just no additional charge).

These seem like very good cordless tools. The blower seems as powerful as my 2 cycle handheld blower. Not tried the trimmer yet. They seem to be a little more power hungry than my Ridgid impact driver and drill driver; this is not a problem, just an initial observation. Different tools, different power requirements.

The trimmer has the motor as part of the trigger/hand grip with a square rod providing the drive to the trimmer head. The trimmer shaft is similar to the Stihl KombiSystem with a clamp about half way down to insert the head shaft into. This appears to (hopefully) be the start of an attachment system; there are no attachments currently offered.

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I also found a Hart brand hedge trimmer attachment at our Ollie's Store for $24.99; listed for $57.75 at Amazon. Seems to work well.

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On sale at Menards.
3 lbs hammer
I like that it has a short handle.

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I have the same model made before they started varnishing them years ago. Heavily used and hardly a ding. It is an indestructible beast: well balanced for control, light enough to be easy on the arm and elbow, and incredibly durable. You will like it if the materials are as good as long ago. About the only damage that can happen to it is to lose it or melt off the handle grip in a fire.
 

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Been wanting a Pole saw and most likely, a Stihl. I never really considered a battery until today while at Keim Lumber.

Grabbed the bare tool version as it was on sale for $149, way cheaper than a Stihl gas version.
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Best of all, wife bought it for me as an anniversary gift.
 
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Been wanting a Pole saw and most likely, a Stihl. I never really considered a battery until today while at Keim Lumber.

Grabbed the bare tool version as it was on sale for $149, way cheaper than a Stihl gas version.
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Best of all, wife bought it for me as an anniversary gift.


Congratulations on your anniversary and very nice gift from your other half.
 

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Been wanting a Pole saw and most likely, a Stihl. I never really considered a battery until today while at Keim Lumber.

That looks like a great saw I have the ryobi version and it gets heavy.

Keim called Thursday and was to deliver molding between 9-11am Friday, yesterday. Fresh outta the shower about 8:30 and the dog , plus my phone were going crazy. Looked out Keim box truck in the driveway, driver arrived about 30 minutes early. Molding delivered! I like that place!!
 

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Congratulations on your anniversary and very nice gift from your other half.
Thanks, we ordered her a new porch swing.
That looks like a great saw I have the ryobi version and it gets heavy.

Keim called Thursday and was to deliver molding between 9-11am Friday, yesterday. Fresh outta the shower about 8:30 and the dog , plus my phone were going crazy. Looked out Keim box truck in the driveway, driver arrived about 30 minutes early. Molding delivered! I like that place!!
We like Keim as a place to stop when we come to Amish country. However, if you're tool shopping, you have to price shop, much of their stuff is over priced.

Menards has the Eklind T- handle sets priced about $14-16 each, depending SAE/Metric. I picked this set up on Amazon for $20 for both.
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Keim was selling the SAE for about $28 & the Metric for $32. We like the place but it seems to have become a somewhat of a tourist trap or counting on big $$ Columbus crowd to spend the almighty dollar.
 

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Bora adjustable height/ folding saw horses. They have been on my list and snagged them off Amazon Prime. I have a shed I need to patch up from tree damage if the tree removal doesn't finish it off. The repair is temporary and is just a hold over to get to the next step. I'll have some sheathing to rip and need these for that project.
 

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