CRSINMICH
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I posted this AMF Float-Lock Mity7 Vise about a year ago. It was by the same company. That might be what you remember.
The VISES of Garage Journal
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PeterPeter
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Thanks for the ‘dirty paper’. You’re the fastest patent producer in The West. How do you do it?
I see quick release or ‘Instant Change’ is an option. I guess that’s why they call it Standard. Theres a longer version with Instant Change, too.
I’ve chased a few of these vises, first time I actually caught one. It came attached to a complete, with pulley guard, Walker Turner bench press. I was tickled pink.
peter, peter
CRSINMICH
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I often find vise patents while searching for other things and I file them in case it should come up in the future.
Here's a case in point. Just yesterday I found this patent while researching pipe vises and saved it just in case.
Wilbert Trethewey was a plumber in Boston. In fact, his great-grandchildren are still running Trethewey Brothers Plumbing. One of them is a TV star.
Here's a case in point. Just yesterday I found this patent while researching pipe vises and saved it just in case.
Wilbert Trethewey was a plumber in Boston. In fact, his great-grandchildren are still running Trethewey Brothers Plumbing. One of them is a TV star.
PghJKB
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Bowling Balls, Harleys, and Float-Lock.I posted this AMF Float-Lock Mity7 Vise about a year ago. It was by the same company. That might be what you remember.
Quite an ensemble...
JKB
Outlawmws
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Bowling alleys and Radial arm saws too.
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And sailboats and nuclear reactors.
Outlawmws
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New addition: A Will Burt Versa Vise Gunsmith vise $35!
3-1/2" jaws opens 4-3/4" (thisb one you open toth e stop to measure) about 15-1/2 Lbs :
3-1/2" jaws opens 4-3/4" (thisb one you open toth e stop to measure) about 15-1/2 Lbs :
PeterPeter
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The PO describes the condition of this 404 1/2 as “fair”. Seems a lot better than that to me. To my eye, looks like original japanning, crisp tail edges and fairly smooth jaw faces. Besides the missing lock handle, and a random dings, anyone see something I don’t? How would you describe the condition?
peter, peter
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Congrats! Never had the pleasure of owning one, but they’re meat vises. And at that price…no brainer
Even though the paint is old, it’s not original. No vise manufacturers I’ve ever seen (understandably so) painted the slides of their vises, and that one shows clear traces on the slide. That said, all things considered, I’d probably still put the condition at higher than “fair”.
neophyte
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I’ve seen enough old vises that appear to have been assembled, and then painted, including the slide, that I think painting the slides was occasionally done.
I don’t know how common it might gave been, and mostly it is less expensive vises where I’ve seen the issue.
Whether Reed would have done it, I don’t know, but it would not surprise me if dome Industrial manufacturers did it, just to get vises out the door at slightly lower cost.
The paint would also have helped protect exposed areas of the slide from rust.
Outlawmws
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Reeds have a tight enough slide fit that it could cause binding from bunched up scraped paint, so unlikely.
the only painted slides from a factory I've seen are cheap homeowner's models and cheap imports.
PeterPeter
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Turns out, the OP’s “fair” description of the 404 1/2 was an over estimate. It is all there, and original, but there at least one problem I identified by taking out the slide. I offered $30, even though he wanted to give it to me. 
The screw is in inaccessible right now, so not sure how bent it is. The retaining sleeve bolt lacks a head, or slot for screw driver. Not the first time I’ve seen this.
Later… Well, it’s out and it’s not pretty. Not surprised considering the condition of the nut. This pic of the tail end was taken with the meatball end flat on the table.
Peter, peter
The screw is in inaccessible right now, so not sure how bent it is. The retaining sleeve bolt lacks a head, or slot for screw driver. Not the first time I’ve seen this.
Later… Well, it’s out and it’s not pretty. Not surprised considering the condition of the nut. This pic of the tail end was taken with the meatball end flat on the table.
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I'm in love
My next mission, got his phone number, my friend who sent it to me isn't able to drop it off
There is a 7th shelf on the ground.
, sending a deposit in a few days delivered in a few months, finger crossing has commenced.I think he said the base isn't original and the 7th shelf has a crack in it, LOL I didn't even haggle, just said I'm happy with everything, struggling on the phone with hearing and no transport, I'm just happy he is OK with dropping it off at the big Bendigo swap in a few months, a few more pics are coming.
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CRSINMICH
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PeterPeter: This might be a good time to repost this advice from PARKER
(The red lettering is mine)
PeterPeter
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PeterPeter: This might be a good time to repost this advice from PARKER
(The red lettering is mine)
Dropfo begs to differ. (I think you posted this when I was inquiring about a no.4 I bought)
CRSINMICH
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PeterPeter: I may have posted that ad but I surely didn't try it out on my #5. It's not that I think ads might exaggerate, you understand, but I had to look for a Dropfo for quite awhile and I didn't want to take any chances.
Beerhippie
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I'm certainly not what anyone would describe as husky, but give me a three-foot cheater and I can guarantee I'll put a nice bend in that handle.
Maui
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The simple things are so good, A successful half hour, no hassles at all which is so unusual- removed the broken bolt, 
found some old style - 5/16 -18, bought some 1" and 2 " length, I can cut to size if required, as I also need one to fasten the anvil 
For those record 74 owners, am I correct in assuming the pipe jaw is not original ?
Going to use it anyway, just curious, it's a little bit sloppy but works, a bit of a template for my Dawn Universal ( 74 copy) as well, I'll cut down the larger one to fit.
it's in very good condition, the older Records seem to be just that little bit better in fit and use to most. I'm leaning towards painting this in satin clear- seems a shame to hide how good it is. ( Had no original paint left on it)
found some old style - 5/16 -18, bought some 1" and 2 " length, I can cut to size if required, as I also need one to fasten the anvil For those record 74 owners, am I correct in assuming the pipe jaw is not original ?
Going to use it anyway, just curious, it's a little bit sloppy but works, a bit of a template for my Dawn Universal ( 74 copy) as well, I'll cut down the larger one to fit.
it's in very good condition, the older Records seem to be just that little bit better in fit and use to most. I'm leaning towards painting this in satin clear- seems a shame to hide how good it is. ( Had no original paint left on it)
CRSINMICH
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colmal: Here's a snippet from a 1953 catalogue showing Auto Vice. The only information about pipe grips is that they are 'hardened'.
I purposefully left the #75 in the picture to give you something else to lust after. I also added the #74 information from a 1963 catalogue showing the new streamlined look.
I purposefully left the #75 in the picture to give you something else to lust after. I also added the #74 information from a 1963 catalogue showing the new streamlined look.
PeterPeter
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Congratulations, that’s a great Wilton.
Thankyou, LOL, yes I have my eye out for a 75, never seen one thou, From what I can gather my 74 is a late 20's,early 30's having the bolt for the pipe jaw, the very early 1928 just had a Pat Pending, with no dates.colmal: Here's a snippet from a 1953 catalogue showing Auto Vice. The only information about pipe grips is that they are 'hardened'.
I purposefully left the #75 in the picture to give you something else to lust after. I also added the #74 information from a 1963 catalogue showing the new streamlined look.
Recently got a late 50's on small brother, not quite as well made as the 1945ish Imp I had first. Just a curious quest to see how similar the Dawn Universal (1960's) is, close, not quite as smooth as the early Record thou.
An early dark blue paint, rounded mount (1930's) No 50 woodworking arrived around the same time and again, would be the nicest operation of 9 small woodworkers- Kinda impressed with them.
Both Imps are original paint-good to very good condition, will post when I've finished my Imp copy - 1949/50 Rapier- had a bad 9 months and just getting back into the swing of things- got so much piled up now- but all good, have made me smile on arriving.
Oh and always learning/trying new stuff, after 25 yrs using molasses in 20- to 800litre containers, added a fish tank warmer to my molasses ( 25ltr), works so much better, specially considering it's winter.
The above 75, just did a quick steel wool over the screw and slide, and a Fine wire brush in Dremel- 15 mins tops. Warm molasses , who would have thought it is so much better.
neophyte
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Maybe they used spring steel for the handle, and then spring tempered the steel ?