Between 705 & 1200 SQ/FT Mixed Grill - From London , England - GRIZZMAKES world

[gman007]

Did you start with pulling fuses to isolate the circuit that is the drain?

I admit I have not watched the clip.

Find and fix the root cause, rather than masking the symptom!

 

[Grizz1963]

Find and fix the root cause, rather than masking the symptom!

Not a priority for now.

Little van is taking a lot of my time.

 

[Grizz1963]

Seriously, you are doing an amazing job, particularly given the very limited toolset and parts for metalwork!

And for me personally, as I have stated on many occasions on Vladimir’s (Vieux) thread, this kind of result is many times more impressive and admirable because it involves more creativity and skill than having the right tools and parts to do the same job.

And not to mention doing all this in the scorching heat!

Great job as usual! Eagerly waiting for more progress updates.

This reminds me of a news story from some time back in the 1980s that I saw.

If I remember correctly, prior to the Iran-Iraq War or some other war in that always troubled corner of the world, one country (Iraq?) ordered several 10 of thousands of cars from one of the Big Three US auto manufacturers (I can’t recall which one, may be GM) through GM Canada. I guess to save money, they had no requirement for heating in these cars. Then the war happened and they decided they were not taking delivery! So GM was stuck with all these cars. And for some "strange" reason, folks in Canada were not interested in buying them!

Plz
AI to the rescue , it found the story for me

Fresh sill covers for the project?

Existing sills are fully replaced and repaired.

So Not fresh, but fresh from a Vauxhall Astra Coupe. I needed 1.8 m or 6’ long.

The idea is to mount them so they create another 50mm or 2” of visual lowering and if you recall the arch extensions and stupidly wide 9” wheels……..

It should come together.

Well, it has but I will be posting that in a few weeks

You're getting pretty good at this turd polishing stuff.

I am.

I should also learn my lesson by now.

I was thinking a rocker flare?

Yes

Yup

Same thing. In English they are sills, in American Rockers.

Thanks.

So much work but the little car is coming back together, you will have it on the road in no time.

JB

Great praise from a guy who knows all about hard work.
Thanks JB.

Did you start with pulling fuses to isolate the circuit that is the drain?

I admit I have not watched the clip.

No.

Now it’s not a problem in the short term.

I will get to that once the little van is rolling.

Too many things to deal with.

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[Grizz1963]

Starting on part two of the wheel tubs during the second heatwave, I realised that it was actually worse than the drivers side.
People often comment about the passenger side of vehicles being worse than the drivers side.
Maybe not obvious, but especially in countries where the roads get gritted with salt and other chemicals that reduce ice and snow hardening, the run off is into some gutter, lower side of the road camber. So obviously you end up with more salt and grit than the other side.

So I sat crying till I had no more tears before getting on with the real assessment of how to approach this repair.

Removing and replacing the bottom section while sides held together the rest seemed the best way.

So with cutting disc, wire wheel and flap discs I undid the spot welding and used rust converter on both sides.
Made a replacement piece and welded it in on both sides.

Then proceeded to the next section.

Eating a proverbial elephant piece by piece.

Also, after the first one, I realised I needed to follow function over form if I wanted to complete it this year.

The donor steel was such a great solution to finding decent material.


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[Grizz1963]

And a few more

 

[gilr]

Keep at it, you are making progress! Not fun I know, especially in this heat.

 

[gman007]

Rian
Fixes Look great as usual, and thanks for sharing the photos!

I am also curious about your statement regarding using salt and chemicals on the roads during winter. While those of us living in the US snow belt and most of Canada obviously experience this every winter, I was not aware that this is also a practice in the UK.

In my early youth, I lived in both England and Scotland for two and a half years (long story) and, if my memory doesn’t fail me, the occasional winter snowfall was closer to what we call a dusting of snow.

Additionally, I was under the impression that most of the rust issues in the UK are due to it being a small island surrounded by the sea—constantly exposed to salty sea air—as well as being rainy and damp all the time.

So, why is the use of salt required there in UK?

 

[Grizz1963]

Rian
Fixes Look great as usual, and thanks for sharing the photos!

I am also curious about your statement regarding using salt and chemicals on the roads during winter. While those of us living in the US snow belt and most of Canada obviously experience this every winter, I was not aware that this is also a practice in the UK.

In my early youth, I lived in both England and Scotland for two and a half years (long story) and, if my memory doesn’t fail me, the occasional winter snowfall was closer to what we call a dusting of snow.

Additionally, I was under the impression that most of the rust issues in the UK are due to it being a small island surrounded by the sea—constantly exposed to salty sea air—as well as being rainy and damp all the time.

So, why is the use of salt required there in UK?

GOOGLE SAYS:

Salt is used on UK winter roads to melt snow and ice, and to prevent frost from forming. By lowering the freezing point of moisture on the road surface, salt creates a liquid brine that stops water from solidifying into ice, ensuring traffic can continue moving safely. [1, 2, 3]
Here is why rock salt is specifically required and how it works:

• • Freezing Point Depression: Salt (sodium chloride) mixes with snow or rainwater to form a brine solution. This brine has a much lower freezing point than pure water—making it effective down to roughly -7°C. [1]
  • Breaking the Bond: By keeping the surface liquid, brine penetrates beneath fallen snow and prevents it from freezing and bonding to the tarmac. This allows vehicles to easily crush the snow into slush and clear the lanes. [1]
  • Pre-treatment: UK highways agencies proactively spread salt before temperatures drop below freezing to stop frost or "black ice" from forming overnight. [1, 2]
  • Traffic Activation: Salt alone doesn't melt thick snow. It requires the weight and movement of passing traffic to physically crush and mix the salt into the moisture, distributing the melting brine across the road. [1, 2]

For more specific information on how National Highways treats the strategic road network, visit the National Highways Winter Driving Guide.

 

[Grizz1963]

Keep at it, you are making progress! Not fun I know, especially in this heat.

Thank you.

 

[Ford52PU]

watched your video those patches/repairs look great, good job using those old curves from the body panels was a great idea.

 

[Grizz1963]

watched your video those patches/repairs look great, good job using those old curves from the body panels was a great idea.

Thank you.

I am quite good at visualising things.

And the complexity of these curves meant that some preformed curves would make it easier to

Finding the Jowett panels was a stroke of luck.
Thick vintage steel as well.

 

[Grizz1963]

New short term lodger ( between 2 and 6 weeks) is a car, military truck, and bike guy. Including two KTM’s

Naturally we get on.

Remember Aaron who stayed here for about 16 months?

The company he worked for has completely vacated the premises as contract concluded .
But they have left behind a load of “junk” in the stores.
Often with these companies, the cost of repatriation or recertification outweighs the cost of outright replacement.
Absolutely crazy that the world has become so wasteful.

So the new guys, guys were clearing out the stores to create space for their inventory.

Typically……. Everything was being put straight into s skip/dumpster despite being new and unused.

Crazy

Absolutely Bonkers.

Landfill or recycling it is then.

And you ask why everyone is paying more in taxes and costs keep escalating.

So Stephen managed to rescue some useable junk.

Last night I had done 3.3kg of Cajun chicken wings for the three of us, Pedro loves wings too

When Stephen came home from work, he does 13 on 1 day off, he brought me some welding rods from the skip.

Pretty pleased because my stash of rods are down to two partially used packs of 3.5mm and 2.5mm electrodes.

Dinner was good as well.

Google says:

Oerlikon Supercito 7018S 3.20 x 350mm (part code 3.20X0350XVPMD) are highly-rated, basic-coated low hydrogen MMA electrodes used for crack-free structural and pipe welding. You can easily purchase sealed packs of these electrodes from several dedicated welding supply stores and online marketplaces: [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

• • eBay UK: Sellers like bobbegg frequently list new, sealed packs of 54 rods for around £35.00 with free delivery. Browse available options on the eBay 7018 Welding Rods Page.
  • Inverter Fusion: They stock the 4.2kg pack of 3.2mm x 350mm electrodes (SKU W000258278) for approximately £52.70.
  • Rapid Welding: They supply the same X-ray quality electrodes (SKU 00532143X) in full 12.6kg cartons. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]

Because these are basic low hydrogen electrodes, make sure to dry them per manufacturer specs before use if they aren't kept in a vacuum pack. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

 

[Grizz1963]

Yesterday’s work included replacing two layers of varying thickness that were spot welded together but possibly rusted beyond redemption.

So I made some new patches to repair the missing steel and also made a 600mm or 24” section of thick 2mm plate.

Rust converter, welded, satin black for my own sanity.

More hole hunting and repairs today.

Next rear wheel tub video is uploaded but I will publish it and post story plus photos once the last one has had more views.

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[gman007]

Great score on free welding rods!

Even from the photos, the Cajun chicken looks tasty. At this rate, I think you are going to be stuck with Pedro for life, even after he retires !

Nice job on once again repairing the rusty parts—frankly, the term "rusty" is an understatement, and you should use the term "iron oxide dust"!

 

[gooned]

Often with these companies, the cost of repatriation or recertification outweighs the cost of outright replacement.
Absolutely crazy that the world has become so wasteful.

So the new guys, guys were clearing out the stores to create space for their inventory.

Typically……. Everything was being put straight into s skip/dumpster despite being new and unused.

Crazy

Absolutely Bonkers.

Landfill or recycling it is then.

And you ask why everyone is paying more in taxes and costs keep escalating.

My son was last on a hospital build here, the end of project routine was just as you describe, throw EVERYTHING in the trash…tools, new materials, break room supplies…EVERYTHING from the site, even the push carts!

 

[gman007]

My son was last on a hospital build here, the end of project routine was just as you describe, throw EVERYTHING in the trash…tools, new materials, break room supplies…EVERYTHING from the site, even the push carts!

Why can’t they at least donate this stuff to a charity of some sort like Goodwill or Salvation Army? Win win all around. Charity wins, someone gets their hand on good material and tools for cheap and these items do not get waisted and go to landfill!

 

[Grizz1963]

No car work today.

But….. deep cleaned ceiling to floor two full bathrooms.

Yesterday I put up a canopy over the rear doors.

ALONE.

Measuring and Fitting alone….. got it done, but not recommended.

Oh, and I had four boxes of 25 each, medium sized ones…… of course, I gave them to Craig, months ago. And some small ones, too small to use. Typical.

9 Rawl bolts with 19mm nuts

But I like it.

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[gorilla]

New short term lodger ( between 2 and 6 weeks) is a car, military truck, and bike guy. Including two KTM’s

Naturally we get on.

Remember Aaron who stayed here for about 16 months?

The company he worked for has completely vacated the premises as contract concluded .
But they have left behind a load of “junk” in the stores.
Often with these companies, the cost of repatriation or recertification outweighs the cost of outright replacement.
Absolutely crazy that the world has become so wasteful.

So the new guys, guys were clearing out the stores to create space for their inventory.

Typically……. Everything was being put straight into s skip/dumpster despite being new and unused.

Crazy

Absolutely Bonkers.

Landfill or recycling it is then.

And you ask why everyone is paying more in taxes and costs keep escalating.

So Stephen managed to rescue some useable junk.

Last night I had done 3.3kg of Cajun chicken wings for the three of us, Pedro loves wings too

When Stephen came home from work, he does 13 on 1 day off, he brought me some welding rods from the skip.

Pretty pleased because my stash of rods are down to two partially used packs of 3.5mm and 2.5mm electrodes.

Dinner was good as well.

Google says:

Oerlikon Supercito 7018S 3.20 x 350mm (part code 3.20X0350XVPMD) are highly-rated, basic-coated low hydrogen MMA electrodes used for crack-free structural and pipe welding. You can easily purchase sealed packs of these electrodes from several dedicated welding supply stores and online marketplaces: [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

• • eBay UK: Sellers like bobbegg frequently list new, sealed packs of 54 rods for around £35.00 with free delivery. Browse available options on the eBay 7018 Welding Rods Page.
  • Inverter Fusion: They stock the 4.2kg pack of 3.2mm x 350mm electrodes (SKU W000258278) for approximately £52.70.
  • Rapid Welding: They supply the same X-ray quality electrodes (SKU 00532143X) in full 12.6kg cartons. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]

Because these are basic low hydrogen electrodes, make sure to dry them per manufacturer specs before use if they aren't kept in a vacuum pack. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

When I did X-ray welding we were only allowed to keep rod out of the oven for a short time I seem to remember about two hours. Long time since I welded sub's.

 

[Grizz1963]

When I did X-ray welding we were only allowed to keep rod out of the oven for a short time I seem to remember about two hours. Long time since I welded sub's.

Science meets alchemy.

Rules are rules.

 

[Grizz1963]

Loads more welding and fabrication done.

But I have done other tasks inbetween as well.

Man cannot live by bread alone, he needs a bit of crumpet every now and then.

Distractions


So back to the second tub.

It was certainly more complex than the first to fabricate but here goes.

Video:

When you look at some of the sections of rust that have been cut out to be replaced with new steel, it does make me wonder why these professionals don’t get their butts kicked sometimes.


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[Grizz1963]

More of the same.

 

[bugnut]

Rian, cannot imagine the amount of effort as you continue to patch. And I'll be stealing the poster, Thanks

 

[Grizz1963]

Rian, cannot imagine the amount of effort as you continue to patch. And I'll be stealing the poster, Thanks

That one and this one was actually save for a good friend in America who is having a torrid time right now.

You know when **** goes bad, with the **** thats going bad, and all you’re trying to do is survive and get your head above water.
No matter how much work you put in, life tries to kick you in the nuts.

Well, my friend’s car decided to eat up its transmission, and she needs a car for the two jobs she holds down.

I am not really in a position to help her out from here.

But I try to be supportive and add these little things to her day.

It’s never going to give her a repaired transmission or beater car to use. (Anything that runs decently) But hopefully a virtual hug helps when she needs it most.

She is a good woman.


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[littlebean]

love both the posters, oh and all the work you've done too obvs!

 

[gman007]

Loads more welding and fabrication done.

Great progress and great job!

it does make me wonder why these so called “professionals” don’t get their butts kicked sometimes.

Fixed it for you .

The only one who thinks such so called professionals are professional is their mother !

 

[PugetDude]

More of the same.

Everyone has heard of the Six Million Dollar Man, but you're creating the Six Million Dollar Van.

 

[gman007]

Everyone has heard of the Six Million Dollar Man, but you're creating the Six Million Dollar Van.

And all who have heard of the Six Million Dollar Man are dating themselves ! But I must admit it was one of my favorite childhood shows.

 

[Grizz1963]

love both the posters, oh and all the work you've done too obvs!

Thank you mate.

Great progress and great job!

Fixed it for you .

The only one who thinks such so called professionals are professional is their mother !

Indeed.

Everyone has heard of the Six Million Dollar Man, but you're creating the Six Million Dollar Van.

Unfortunately my problem is over spending

Wheels range between £700.00 and £950.00 every time I decide to make something pretty.

And all who have heard of the Six Million Dollar Man are dating themselves ! But I must admit it was one of my favorite childhood shows.

Not sure about dating myself.

One coffee date in 4 months.


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[Grizz1963]

Slowly but surely the van is letting me know about it’s dark past.

Two radiator support braces.

Theylook quite different.

Wonder what happened?

I am not going to be able to repair this one. So investigate the flapping around radiator.





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[bugnut]

And i also like the second poster!

 

[Grizz1963]

George has stepped up his game.

Singing the song of his people.

Enjoy.

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[gman007]

George has stepped up his game.

Singing the song of his people.

Enjoy.

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That is a hard “cat” to follow !

 

[Coolabah]

Rian
Fixes Look great as usual, and thanks for sharing the photos!

I am also curious about your statement regarding using salt and chemicals on the roads during winter. While those of us living in the US snow belt and most of Canada obviously experience this every winter, I was not aware that this is also a practice in the UK.

In my early youth, I lived in both England and Scotland for two and a half years (long story) and, if my memory doesn’t fail me, the occasional winter snowfall was closer to what we call a dusting of snow.

Additionally, I was under the impression that most of the rust issues in the UK are due to it being a small island surrounded by the sea—constantly exposed to salty sea air—as well as being rainy and damp all the time.

So, why is the use of salt required there in UK?

I have friends in London , and apparently if anyone sees more than 3 snowflakes the whole city shuts down. (I am somewhat convinced they were joking).
In Australia, we have a very small portion of our continent where, perhaps, you will get enough snow to ski on for a very short time period , if you are very rich.
You might want to google all the accidents that happen (Victoria or NSW snowfields) with just a mere sprinkling of snow or ice- you will require salt if only for your tequila as you ROFL

 

[Grizz1963]

Obviously much more of the same “ Cut, Grind, Fabricate, Weld, Grind…. Repeat “ continues to make the second tub complete.

At this point, 35’C days, IN THE SHADE, meant the Cube box was an even less pleasant place to be.

So I decided function was more important than form in a loadbed of a closed rear end with tinted glass.

I still ll needed a few relief cuts and fill ins that look a bit untidy, but the invitation was always there for you to come help or do it better, in stead of sitting remotely critiquing something you don’t have any intention of ever actually owning or attempting. Just saying.

So a few more progress pictures.

Though it still wasn’t the end.

Obviously


Also, a reminder for those who recall the horrendous speaker holes in the 1966 Chevy C10 cab that I closed up about 9 years ago.




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[gman007]

Rian,

All those who are “sitting remotely critiquing” will be summarily executed and then put on a lengthy trial !

But seriously, as is evident from all the positive comments regarding your great work, I believe everyone, including yours truly, is impressed by what you've done—not only in function, but in form as well.

In my life, I have fixed and patched up a few rust spots, but those are nothing compared to the scale and quality of what you are doing.

Keep up the great work. Looking forward to more eye candy.

 

[Finallygotit]

Rian,

All those who are “sitting remotely critiquing” will be summarily executed and then put on a lengthy trial !

But seriously, as is evident from all the positive comments regarding your great work, I believe everyone, including yours truly, is impressed by what you've done—not only in function, but in form as well.

In my life, I have fixed and patched up a few rust spots, but those are nothing compared to the scale and quality of what you are doing.

Keep up the great work. Looking forward to more eye candy.

Also, did I miss something? Who is doing this critiquing?

 

[gman007]

Also, did I miss something? Who is doing this critiquing?

Everyone here is a gentleman! I have a feeling that some idiot on another site might have made a stupid comment that pissed Rian off.

 

[Grizz1963]

Rian,

All those who are “sitting remotely critiquing” will be summarily executed and then put on a lengthy trial !

But seriously, as is evident from all the positive comments regarding your great work, I believe everyone, including yours truly, is impressed by what you've done—not only in function, but in form as well.

In my life, I have fixed and patched up a few rust spots, but those are nothing compared to the scale and quality of what you are doing.

Keep up the great work. Looking forward to more eye candy.

Thanks

Also, did I miss something? Who is doing this critiquing?

It’s intermittent on the various sites I post on. Sometimes subtle, and sometimes guys will get pissed because I don’t follow their advice.

Some guys are just generally dickheads.

I don’t think I am that sensitive, rather I dislike bullies and buttheads.

Everyone here is a gentleman! I have a feeling that some idiot on another site might have made a stupid comment that pissed Rian off.

Either a gentleman or know when to just keep quiet because they have never done anything like this before.

But I do copy and paste a certain amount of my writing.

 

[PugetDude]

Also, did I miss something? Who is doing this critiquing?

Keyboard Kommandos with nothing better to do than stroke their own egos and try to ensure that everyone in their sphere of influence is just as miserable and insignificant as they are.
Or Dickheads, take your pick.

 

[Chrisb62]

Don’t let the negative people ruin your own mojo, keep doing your own thing and let the drone of negativity drown itself out.