CGarage
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I am both surprised and impressed by the numbers of Spyderco and Benchmade knives I am seeing. Great marketing efforts by these two companies.
I own many knives, mostly case, buck, Spyderco, and victorinox. I mostly carry Spyderco because I want a clip on the side and Spyderco often gives me an interesting choice of knife steel; for example, Rex-121, maxamet, and many others. I also like a one hand blade deployment, and if possible, a one hand blade closing; for me I often do not have two hands free.I am both surprised and impressed by the numbers of Spyderco and Benchmade knives I am seeing. Great marketing efforts by these two companies.
I'm surprised nobody's posted a photo of 65 Benchmade knives, all of the same color of every varity in new condition, decorating a cabinet... But then we'd need a thread asking about exercising your unused knives.I am both surprised and impressed by the numbers of Spyderco and Benchmade knives I am seeing. Great marketing efforts by these two companies.
I've never seen any marketing by either. No ads, nothing featured in YouTube videos. Just a few people in person and here that have them and like them. But maybe I'm just the second layer of brain washing?I am both surprised and impressed by the numbers of Spyderco and Benchmade knives I am seeing. Great marketing efforts by these two companies.
Why does this surprise you?I am both surprised and impressed by the numbers of Spyderco and Benchmade knives I am seeing. Great marketing efforts by these two companies.
Why does this surprise you?
Both companies make a great product for a somewhat premium price, but are still affordable for a lot of guys.
Were you thinking that a forum of tool enthusiasts would only carry knives that you can buy at the gas station or the flea market?
It's just a way to try to take a cheeky dig at some people. Don't you know you can get <insert Chinese brand here> for 1/10 the cost and it's just as good?Why does this surprise you?
Both companies make a great product for a somewhat premium price, but are still affordable for a lot of guys.
Were you thinking that a forum of tool enthusiasts would only carry knives that you can buy at the gas station or the flea market?
It's just a way to try to take a cheeky dig at some people. Don't you know you can get <insert Chinese brand here> for 1/10 the cost and it's just as good?
Why does this surprise you?
Both companies make a great product for a somewhat premium price, but are still affordable for a lot of guys.
Were you thinking that a forum of tool enthusiasts would only carry knives that you can buy at the gas station or the flea market?
That's the secret.I'd buy a better knife like a Spyderco or Benchmade but I hate to spend money on something like that and be quite liable to lose it. Up until the last few years, my edc knife was the same one I used I carried at work and its been decon'd more than once.
I’ve lost a few, but that’s just the price you pay. I’d still rather carry a decent knife.That's the secret.
By spending a few hundred bucks on a knife, I'm much, much more in tune with where it is.
I have lost several $30 knives, have yet to lose a $100+ knife to carelessness.
I don't know anything about you.Not at all and I am offended by your comment.
Unless of superior quality and workmanship (which the Chinese are capable of), I wouldn’t recommend a Chinese made knife for 1/10th the cost. You should know better.
Just because I'm curious, what other makers do you consider to be their competition? I'm looking at the $150-$350 bracket EDC knife bracket, for reference.Hand tool users are generally more conscientious of how things are made compared to the average consumer. Not always, but certainly here, on this website.
There are hundreds of knife makers with product readily available to the consumer, particularly in the U.S. market.
By my unofficial count, Benchmade and Spyderco were over represented compared to other brands owned by those who have posted in this thread.
This was interesting to me, and I posted about it.
I too, own Benchmade.
Both Spyderco and Benchmade produce knives with product price points at what I would consider to be the mid-tier for production, manufactured knives. There is a lot of competition at this price point, and they seem to have a done a good job in capturing the market.
Same here. Never lost a good knife, and this is part of the added benefit of having just one.That's the secret.
By spending a few hundred bucks on a knife, I'm much, much more in tune with where it is.
I have lost several $30 knives, have yet to lose a $100+ knife to carelessness.
I have a SpyderCo and a Buck made in either China or Taiwan. Manufacturers are concerned about proprietary knowledge so certain things they may not be willing to do with stuff made in China because they expect it to be stolen. Some unexpected things, however.Not at all and I am offended by your comment.
Unless of superior quality and workmanship (which the Chinese are capable of), I wouldn’t recommend a Chinese made knife for 1/10th the cost. You should know better.
Just because I'm curious, what other makers do you consider to be their competition? I'm looking at the $150-$350 bracket EDC knife bracket, for reference.
Microtech is the only other brand that springs to mind in that category, and I don't see Microtech in stores with nearly the same frequency.
Kershaw, Buck, Case, Victorinox, Wenger, Gerber, Smith and Wesson, and CRKT are all brands I own in addition to Benchmade and Spyderco, but they just aren't in the same bracket IMO. Perfectly good, serviceable knives, no shade, but they're just not the same quality. They're also half the cost, so I wouldn't expect the same level of quality.
They might fix it for you, no idea what that costs or if it is feasible. I know that Buck has a good group that can fix your broken knives, I expect that it might cost you some money, but Buck has never charged me for anything. But the only thing I ever spoke to them about was a knife shield that fell off and they sent me a new one. They offered to fix it but I said that I could glue it in place.I have a Kershaw 1620FL that I retired to my desk drawer after carrying it for 4 years or so. The spring assist broke, and the safety catch broke off taking the tip of the blade with it. I reground the blade, and carried it as a non-spring knife for a while, but it still was "broken". On the flip side, I have had absolutely zero issues with my Benchmade in over twice the time in my pocket. I got my money's worth out of both knives, but would happily pay more for the Benchmade again given their track record.
Pretty much all of Spyderco's most expensive models with the best/most consistent fit/finish are made in Taiwan. They offer machining that equals ours but labor is cheaper. They can afford to spend more time on each individual knife in Taichung than their Golden CO factory can, since labor, machine upkeep, power, etc. all cost more here.I have a SpyderCo and a Buck made in either China or Taiwan. Manufacturers are concerned about proprietary knowledge so certain things they may not be willing to do with stuff made in China because they expect it to be stolen. Some unexpected things, however.
Buck knives made in China do not have the Paul Bos heat treatment, which does not surprise me.
I have one Spyderco made in China and it uses a very average steel.
I was surprised that my Spyderco knives using CPM Rex-121 Steel and Maxamet Steel are all made in Taiwan, and they are still very expensive.
I loaned a nice knife to a coworker once and found them scraping a brass drain cover with it. Not how I usually treat my nicer knives. Enter my favorite cheap made in china knife that I can hardly care what people do with it. The blade is decent and the knife is cheap ($20).
D2 steel takes some abuse. The Eafengrow EF223 has G10 Handles (I like G10).
Apparently in recent history (few years back) some of their knives were tested and the Steel were not the stated steel. Eafengrow blamed the companies that made the blades (I assume they do not do their own manufacturing). I was told that when the supply chain was fixed they did not pull existing inventory just let it go through. Although I like EF223, the ergonomics are not great and the knife is heavier than my other knives. I use them as beaters and or as loaners to people I do not trust with a better knife. And given their history I am less inclined to buy their knives. I tried some of their other knives that I just did not like at all.
When I purchase a new knife, or perhaps anything, I need to rely on the backing company to perform appropriate quality control. One person explained to me a long time ago that it was not a problem if my Table Saw was made in China, it was a problem if the contracting company did not have quality control people on site to make sure things came out to spec... Or something like that; it was a long time ago.
I compared by older Schrade knives to the newer ones made in China. I had some friends compare the newer version to the original. Every person strongly preferred the original made in the USA version. I used to love the Uncle Henry series such as the LB-5, but I gave away the made in China versions that I bought to test.
That's a nice knife to lose. Any idea what's causing their disappearances?I’ll be the odd man out and have lost two of my favorite knives, the Zero tolerance assisted opening.
I’m now on my third.
Zero tolerance is another good maker of knives in the price point mentioned for edc. I believe they are the premium brand of Kershaw.
I was mostly just listing some brands that I happened to own for a point of comparison, not necessarily ones that you can go buy right now, like Wenger.Buck made in USA is pretty good. They often have some nice versions with their specialty runs.
Case has some decent knives, but I prefer them for their standard knives such as their Stockman or Seahorse Whittler, especially when they have some pretty handles made from fancy things.
Ther are many specialty brands whose names escape me at the moment.
Oddly, don't know them.
Wenger?? I thought they were purchased by Victorinox. I preferred their scissors. When Victorinox purchased them, they phased them out.
I just googled it and it looks like Wenger Blades is a thing not related to the older Wenger Swiss Army Knives.
I had a Smith and Wesson knife, but most of those types of knives are rebranded and usually from some random chinese company. You can usually tell when they say "Stainless Steel Blade" and leave it at that. To be fair, I think that Klein Tools stated that about their knives so I asked them what steel they really used. It was a very average steel that you will sharpen often. I did not write it down, but I think that I reviewed hawkbill knives here and I stated the steel. It was an OK steel, but SK was using D2.
They might fix it for you, no idea what that costs or if it is feasible. I know that Buck has a good group that can fix your broken knives, I expect that it might cost you some money, but Buck has never charged me for anything. But the only thing I ever spoke to them about was a knife shield that fell off and they sent me a new one. They offered to fix it but I said that I could glue it in place.
Cheers!
Using them at work and crawling around machinery with them clipped in my pocket.That's a nice knife to lose. Any idea what's causing their disappearances?
I'd buy a better knife like a Spyderco or Benchmade but I hate to spend money on something like that and be quite liable to lose it. Up until the last few years, my edc knife was the same one I used I carried at work and its been decon'd more than once.
Buck made in USA is pretty good. They often have some nice versions with their specialty runs.
Case has some decent knives, but I prefer them for their standard knives such as their Stockman or Seahorse Whittler, especially when they have some pretty handles made from fancy things.
Ther are many specialty brands whose names escape me at the moment.
Oddly, don't know them.
Wenger?? I thought they were purchased by Victorinox. I preferred their scissors. When Victorinox purchased them, they phased them out.
I just googled it and it looks like Wenger Blades is a thing not related to the older Wenger Swiss Army Knives.
I had a Smith and Wesson knife, but most of those types of knives are rebranded and usually from some random chinese company. You can usually tell when they say "Stainless Steel Blade" and leave it at that. To be fair, I think that Klein Tools stated that about their knives so I asked them what steel they really used. It was a very average steel that you will sharpen often. I did not write it down, but I think that I reviewed hawkbill knives here and I stated the steel. It was an OK steel, but SK was using D2.
They might fix it for you, no idea what that costs or if it is feasible. I know that Buck has a good group that can fix your broken knives, I expect that it might cost you some money, but Buck has never charged me for anything. But the only thing I ever spoke to them about was a knife shield that fell off and they sent me a new one. They offered to fix it but I said that I could glue it in place.
Cheers!
Just because I'm curious, what other makers do you consider to be their competition? I'm looking at the $150-$350 bracket EDC knife bracket, for reference.
I think Spyderco and Benchmade are fairly common because they have a fairly wide dealer network that puts them in front of eyeballs. When I look at the knife case in the hardware store/gun shop/outdoor outfitter, I see Spyderco and Benchmade in the higher end case.
Microtech is the only other brand that springs to mind in that category, and I don't see Microtech in stores with nearly the same frequency.
Kershaw, Buck, Case, Victorinox, Wenger, Gerber, Smith and Wesson, and CRKT are all brands I own in addition to Benchmade and Spyderco, but they just aren't in the same bracket IMO. Perfectly good, serviceable knives, no shade, but they're just not the same quality. They're also half the cost, so I wouldn't expect the same level of quality.
I have a Kershaw 1620FL that I retired to my desk drawer after carrying it for 4 years or so. The spring assist broke, and the safety catch broke off taking the tip of the blade with it. I reground the blade, and carried it as a non-spring knife for a while, but it still was "broken". On the flip side, I have had absolutely zero issues with my Benchmade in over twice the time in my pocket. I got my money's worth out of both knives, but would happily pay more for the Benchmade again given their track record.
Other members like @Ohio Andy gave some great recommendations.
The only other knife maker that I would consider and recommend to be of that Spyderco / Benchmade style / quality / price point would be Emerson. In my opinion, Kershaw is slightly below Benchmade / Spyderco in market position, and Emerson is slightly above (as they also make limited runs of hand made knives).
I don’t think you need to spend more than $200 US for a quality, every day use knife.
Remarkable that Benchmade and Spyderco are so well represented here. Respect to both companies.
The Bel Air is nice that's been the one I've been carrying when not a work.Kershaw Bel Air
Need isn't a factor for me when anywhere near even the $200 price point for things like a knife. It's like saying you don't need more than a Casio for a wristwatch. I don't need a mechanical watch, I want one. And it's a hell of a lot less accurate than the Casio.I don’t think you need to spend more than $200 US for a quality, every day use knife
I don't have a big sample, but I was a little surprised to find out energy really isn't cheaper in China, at least at the factories I have dealt with.Pretty much all of Spyderco's most expensive models with the best/most consistent fit/finish are made in Taiwan. They offer machining that equals ours but labor is cheaper. They can afford to spend more time on each individual knife in Taichung than their Golden CO factory can, since labor, machine upkeep, power, etc. all cost more here.
Or less. Much less. The most I've ever spent on a pocket knife was $75 for a Buck 346 and that was for my son on his birthday. I see those are pushing $100 now. I'd probably be willing to spend that much as a present again but there's no way I'd spend that much on a knife for my edc.I don’t think you need to spend more than $200 US for a quality, every day use knife.
Or less. Much less. The most I've ever spent on a pocket knife was $75 for a Buck 346 and that was for my son on his birthday. I see those are pushing $100 now. I'd probably be willing to spend that much as a present again but there's no way I'd spend that much on a knife for my edc.
My Benchmade, above, was purchased new in '90 or '91 for, IIRC, $135. Amortize that over thirty-five years of heavy use... $3.86/year. Pretty damned cheap--and it ain't done paying back.Or less. Much less. The most I've ever spent on a pocket knife was $75 for a Buck 346 and that was for my son on his birthday. I see those are pushing $100 now. I'd probably be willing to spend that much as a present again but there's no way I'd spend that much on a knife for my edc.
I feel like once you’re in the multi-tool world, a Leatherman or Gerber beats a Swiss Army Knife for everything except compactness. I keep a Leatherman in my bag in my truck, but I rarely need it.It is hard to beat the Swiss Army Knife for an every day carry knife if you are planning on using it as intended, as a multi-tool, rather than for ‘social’ encounters. They can be had for under $100 US, and make for a beautiful gift.
