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swsman

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I would go used-well maintained tractor/snow blower implement, with the tire chains route.
Even better if you can score additional implements with it.

Will be very usable on your property, vs just a snow machine. Of course make sure it has a cab for that climate.
 

jake28

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Re: snow clearing
1. Would you be plowing your own driveway?
And
2. What do you think the seasonal price for plowing the red road will be? It’s a straight shot and not very long.

I would expect snow removal to be one of the primary responsibilities of the HOA. My neighborhood has 65 lots and 58 homes, and 3 miles of roads that need to get plowed. It’s Tahoe, so feast or famine where we might not a dusting for two months and then get 4 feet of cement in a weekend.

Historically the HOA tried to pro-rate the plowing costs based on how far the house was from the entry gate. They led to vastly different costs for different home owners, and much grumbling.

Now the annual snow removal is split evenly by everyone with a lot, independent of location or whether or not the lot is built on. Simple, clean.

Most snow removal contracts are a fixed cost of (x) inches of snow accumulation in a given time period and then on demand at an agreed upon rate per clearing after that.
 
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legenddc

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I feel like homeowners insurance wouldn’t be too thrilled that the roads aren’t kept clear in case there’s an emergency. No idea what it’s like out there.
 

badonk

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Re: snow removal - keeping certain roads clear is part of the HOA contract every land-owner signed? If that's the case, people with vacant land are lucky that there haven't been charges to clear the roads specified in the HOA contract...since that happens to be because nobody lives there in the winter and it'd be a waste of $$$. I'd demand the HOA start getting it done if you need it. If dues need to go up for all to cover that then so be it.

Since buying my land in Colorado years ago my HOA dues covered road clearing. Our HOA also covers driveway clearing but the additional HOA dues only kicked in once I had a COA. My builder charged me for clearing my driveway during the build...they charged for everything.

Next question is how you plan to keep your driveway clear. Maybe there's some middle ground. I have a friend in Canada that bought some equipment to clear his driveway, but plus sized it to take care of his neighbors. Later he got the HOA to cut him a break since he kept some of the roads clear too. It is his primary house so he can handle it after any snowfall.

It sounds like you'll be there from time to time but not full time, so even if you choose to do it yourself while you are there, how will you manage it while you are not there? Lots to manage with a mountain property.
 
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Nolift911

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Re: snow clearing
1. Would you be plowing your own driveway?
And
2. What do you think the seasonal price for plowing the red road will be? It’s a straight shot and not very long.

I would expect snow removal to be one of the primary responsibilities of the HOA. My neighborhood has 65 lots and 58 homes, and 3 miles of roads that need to get plowed. It’s Tahoe, so feast or famine where we might not a dusting for two months and then get 4 feet of cement in a weekend.

Historically the HOA tried to pro-rate the plowing costs based on how far the house was from the entry gate. They led to vastly different costs for different home owners, and much grumbling.

Now the annual snow removal is split evenly by everyone with a lot, independent of location or whether or not the lot is built on. Simple, clean.

Most snow removal contracts are a fixed cost of (x) inches of snow accumulation in a given time period and then on demand at an agreed upon rate per clearing after that.

@jake28 – All great questions. I think everything revolves around me being the first full-time resident in the neighborhood. I don't think the HOA documents ever contemplated a scenario where there would be just one family living there versus 1–5, 5–10, and so on to help share the costs.

It also seems to be feast or famine when it comes to snow around here. In the five-plus years since we bought the property, we've only had one winter where we couldn't get in while visiting. Our primary issue isn't necessarily the snowfall itself—it's the drifting. Some of the drifts can be massive, so if you don't stay ahead of the snow with regular plowing, you end up needing heavy equipment to clear it, which is a whole different level of effort and expense.

More to come on this. We were supposed to have our annual HOA meeting, and I'm pretty sure this will be the elephant in the room.

I feel like homeowners insurance wouldn’t be too thrilled that the roads aren’t kept clear in case there’s an emergency. No idea what it’s like out there.

Shhhhhh......

Re: snow removal - keeping certain roads clear is part of the HOA contract every land-owner signed? If that's the case, people with vacant land are lucky that there haven't been charges to clear the roads specified in the HOA contract...since that happens to be because nobody lives there in the winter and it'd be a waste of $$$. I'd demand the HOA start getting it done if you need it. If dues need to go up for all to cover that then so be it.

Since buying my land in Colorado years ago my HOA dues covered road clearing. Our HOA also covers driveway clearing but the additional HOA dues only kicked in once I had a COA. My builder charged me for clearing my driveway during the build...they charged for everything.

Next question is how you plan to keep your driveway clear. Maybe there's some middle ground. I have a friend in Canada that bought some equipment to clear his driveway, but plus sized it to take care of his neighbors. Later he got the HOA to cut him a break since he kept some of the roads clear too. It is his primary house so he can handle it after any snowfall.

It sounds like you'll be there from time to time but not full time, so even if you choose to do it yourself while you are there, how will you manage it while you are not there? Lots to manage with a mountain property.

I would describe our HOA as more of a summer lemonade stand operation at this point. My guess is that, as a full-time resident, I'll probably end up stepping into a leadership role somewhere down the road. Leadership seems to change frequently due to people moving away, losing interest, or, unfortunately, passing away.

In my opinion, the HOA fees also need to increase—substantially. If the goal is to properly maintain and support the development as more homes are built and occupied, the current fee structure just isn't going to be sufficient.

In other news, there is plenty of work to do on the Disco. It's usually been a good egg, but lately it seems like one thing breaks right after another.

The latest issue is a water leak from the roof. Right now it appears to be coming from the driver's-side front corner, but as I always tell anyone chasing leaks on these trucks, the headliner acts like a bowl. Depending on where the water enters, how the truck is parked, and how it moves, the obvious source often isn't the actual source.

The first suspects are usually the sunroofs, so that's where I'll start. I went through and resealed everything about five years ago, so I'm hoping it's something relatively simple like a clogged or disconnected sunroof drain rather than something more involved.

So the headliner - not complicated just fussy bits that break easy after 25 years. Most of these parts are a install and take a part once maybe twice type deal. This is easliy my 10th time dropping this thing.

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No need to remove the top tray - that is sealed to the roof - no leaks - tested thoroughly with the hose. Glass lifts out.

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But I did drop the bottom tray -

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And had a "spare sunroof assembly" for parts...

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Always fun to see where folks have had these taped up to prevent leaks..."that is not your problem, it does not leak there..."

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They are designed to leak at the glass to rubber seal, heance the drain tray and drains throughout the cabin. You can actually see light from the glass to the rubber seal, by design.

Here are the buckets in the corners -

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Anyway mine could use some new rail guides so as good of a time as any - I picked up some new OEM NOS rails a few years back as they have the bits that wear out...

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Knackered -

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New

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Install is easy, 3 bolts and feed the guide, wire, screw worm deal into the channel...

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Most important part of this equation...these little gibblers...

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They go here...and slide in that groove.

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When your sunroof is rattling, not opening correctly, jamming etc...that is becuase you have one of these little gibblers, sad and wadded up at the back of the channel shattered into two pieces, just like this guy. No bueno.


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Anyway - and not even to fixing the leak yet...
 
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Nolift911

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When it rains, it pours. Hopefully that will be the end of the disco issues. Being HOA president might not be a bad gig while being the only one out there.

When it rains it pours...Literally - :)

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Ok so on to the leak - not the sunroofs. It is coming from the corner upper header of the driver side. Issue is there are so many overlapping pieces, pinch welds, sealant etc, tough to to know where exactly.

Basically here...and yes those are cut sunroof drains, so I could blow them out, will reattach. Not the problem.

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Here is where the water is coming from...over time seam sealer cracks, pinch and spot welds loosen etc. I could slather that with 3M urethane but I want to find the source.

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Remove a-pillar trim...

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No smoking gun - just windshield goop and not leaking down here anyway.

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So I have been driving around like this for a few weeks, testing etc. With the upper drip rail trim off and the A-pillar trim off I figure if it does not leak with those off I am good.

Going to be certain before that headliner goes back in... :cool:

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Used a brass 3/8 barb for the drain reconnect...not leaking.

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pima67

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Probably a good idea to get more involved in the HOA. One thing to check out is if the HOA is funding a reserve fund to cover any future repairs/replacements for HOA owned roads, utilities etc. For example, Without a reserve fund the HOA might have to do a special assessment to repair road damage caused by plowing or some other delivery/construction workers.
 
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Nolift911

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Probably a good idea to get more involved in the HOA. One thing to check out is if the HOA is funding a reserve fund to cover any future repairs/replacements for HOA owned roads, utilities etc. For example, Without a reserve fund the HOA might have to do a special assessment to repair road damage caused by plowing or some other delivery/construction workers.
Agreed. No reserves, I have seen the balance statement. Reserves are a good idea. I really think dues are too low at this point to sustain the development moving forward.
 
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Nolift911

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August - what the....?

Well - couple of updates. Lots of projects going on, Disco, Volvo, mountain bike, plumbing, OneWheel - and the house updates.

Disco is leak free. Tested. Passed. Headliner back in and buttoned up. Next up is replacing a cracked rear bumper, and the wheel arch flares, oil change and then a really good detail. Its headed for Idaho right behind the Defender this fall.

Volvo - no updates. Fail.

Mountain bike - I have turned this into one of my typical "while you are in there saga's". Brake calipers were seized and in looking for parts for Avid Juicy 5's - cheaper to replace. Might as well go from a 160 rotor in the front to a 180...new wheel skewers, tires...yadi yadi.

My boy Atlas (ChatGTP) has been instrumental in matching up parts and caliper brackets, back spacing, nuts bolts brake bleeder parts etc. for the 21 year old Trek.

I like the researching part and finding the hard parts. Deore XT parts for my old bike are cheap and there is plenty of NOS out there.

So Atlas "tell me about the work we did on my Trek"

I got you bro...summary of work thus far -

You've actually got a pretty cool bike.
Your mountain bike

🚵 2005 Trek Fuel EX 8


Here's the setup we've been working on:
  • Frame: Trek Fuel EX 8 (aluminum)
  • Travel: ~120 mm front / ~120 mm rear
  • Fork: Fox Float
  • Rear Shock: Fox Float RP1 (recently serviced)
  • Wheel size: 26"
  • Drivetrain: Shimano XT 3×9
  • Crank: You just upgraded to a NOS Shimano XT FC-M760 crankset with the matching Shimano bottom bracket.
  • Brakes: Upgraded from Avid Juicy 5 to Shimano Deore M6100 hydraulics.
  • Rotors:
    • Front: upgraded to 180 mm
    • Rear: 160 mm
  • Tires: You settled on a 2.30" rear after the 2.50" rubbed the frame.
  • Tubeless: Stan's setup.
We also spent a fair amount of time sorting out:
  • the correct 180 mm front brake adapter,
  • the rotor/pad alignment,
  • and making sure you weren't leaving braking surface "on the table." 😄
He is giving me **** about the rear rotor and pad coverage - it was like 3mm off. So I told him I was going to mill down the caliper bracket - and he went bananas...danger danger.

Whatever my little AI friend - hold my beer...

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Pad overage is not cool...

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Little belt sander action -

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So yeah its not a 29er...its a glorified gravel bike but its really coming along for a 21 year old relic...and there are tons of trails in Idaho to bomb on for distance that is not downhill or technical - that is coming soon.
 

customh

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I'm not sure what head type these "button heads" are that mounts the caliper bracket to the bike but they look like prime candidates to get upgraded to Stainless. Maybe even a Torx head if you're feeling froggy.

We've got plenty of trail options in MN as well and I've got a buddy that got into the hobby pretty hard. Perhaps it's a rabbit hole that needs exploring.
 

jake28

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Kudos on the brake upgrade. juicy 5s were renowned for being finicky pains when they were new, let alone 5 presidential terms later.

And I love that amidst the tool bedlam you have two pairs of scissors out.
 
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