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I have two LM 8500s in my shop. They are really great. Quiet, the door tracks are above the hanging lights (12' truss height) and nothing in the way in the middle of the door. I had planned on a lift when I built my shop (but haven't installed one yet).

Yes - I got it in the box, brand new. I gave a lowball offer on Craigslist after watching it for a month. The owner called me several days later to accept my offer. He took it as payment for a welding job some years ago, and just wanted some money instead of the vise.

For the C3 stand: I wanted a tripod, as it is the most stable platform. I needed a lot of weight in the rear of the stand to counter the weight of the dynamic jaw - especially when extended 10" and holding some heavy object. I used two 2"x4"x18" flat bars, welded them together and cut them at...

I scored a new Wilton C3 on Craigslist and built a beefy stand for it.