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$2 to $3 k on shop lights?? You obviously have more money that me. I would never drop that kind of coin on any lights.

Where I work we have tons of CFL lights. We are constantly replacing the bulbs. The lights never shut off. We have ballast issues all the time. They started replacing them with LED lights. Some of these lights have been on a year straight and have never been turned off for any reason. No issues...

Where did you buy these?

But in the end will this be worth it? No ballast to go bad. Does the lamp itself have a long life span? If so then you may have spent your money wisely

Fair enough you make some good points. The issue i have is that even the cfl lights are not all that and a bag of chips. They dont like cold weather and i have had issues with the ballast in the past As for the warranty most are a joke imo so i dont rely on them We are talking about a $10...

Sorry EL I have to take FastJohnny's side here. 1) I do not live in a hot climate. In fact I can guarantee my lights will never be surrounded by 120f temps. So what the hell would I do that test for? And if it ever got that hot I sure as hell wouldn't be in the barn working on anything. 2) He...

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opened it now. Thanks for posting

Nice!! Tough crowd

If only it would open. Cant read it thats why i asked

Wouldnt you be better off buying a cheap fixture, taking out the ballast all together and putting an led bulb in its place? I see led bulbs on ebay for $10 a piece. Do the t8 bulbs put out more light than the led? Plus i just saw some 4' led lights at menards for $39. Those were two bulb jobs too.

Ok confused? Why would i buy t8 lights and then upgrade ballast and bulbs? Wouldnt it be cheaper to buy led and be done with? Not trying to be an idiot just curious as to your train of thought here. Thx

I just did mine 30x60 and I used this stuff: Endura Seal http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00494T3AG/?tag=atomicindus08-20 http://www.enduracoat.net/Endura-Acrylic-Concrete-Solvent-Sealer/dp/B00494LWNW So far this is my experience with it. I used 10 gallons. The second 5 gallons I used Gator Grip...

What about these? http://www.ebay.com/itm/10PC-4-FT-48-18-WATT-6000K-Integrated-Fluorescent-Replacement-LED-Tube-Light-/281521789578?pt=US_Light_Bulbs&var=&hash=item418c019a8a

Did the insu;ation come with the building? What brand is it? R value if you know?

Can you run an LED bulb in them once the fluorescent bulbs take a ****?

Couldn't you buy the fixtures with the bulb in it already? What kind of insulation did you use?

Holy cow wish we lived near each other I would have done it for half that and made a great profit. I just bought my materials. 65' of pipe, 2 risers, shut off valve $185. Now throw in the 10' of black pipe and a few fittings in the house that was $45. Then it was knocking a hole in the wall and...

I just found some Southwire #2 AWG aluminum XHHW for .30 cents a foot!! Since i planned on using conduit anyway this is a great deal for this wire versus the MHF which is $1.62 a sq ft. At less than 150 foot of wire this should be good for my needs correct? The biggest amp draw in my show will...

So can this wire be run inside without conduit? Is it good for 90 amp breaker and the main panel or a full 100amp?