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By the way, like the idea of companies revealing the break point of rachets. It's always nice to know what you are buying.

I need a cheater bar to reach the 250-350 LB range. I tend to ring the end off my extensions or break my non-impact sockets long before any damage is done to my cheap model C-man rachets. Some rachets begin to slip after repeated uses with a cheater bar though.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good food for thought.

Williams wrench recieved today. Great shape!!! You should get a job packaging wrenches for shipment. Wish everyone took the care to package that well. Thanks!!!