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toolsd

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Insofar as the stripped hole, it doesn't matter. If you've got them on hand, the helicoil route keeps all the fasteners the same, which is convenient.

It's simply the cheap taiwanese of a long time ago. Which makes it a LOT nicer than the taiwanese of today. However, still probably not quite the same as an old American vise.

I say that not as an insult, so please don't take it that way. I have an old taiwanese drill press, had it for 20 years, it was old when I got it. It's just a cheap old drill press, but I've been using it for SO long, I wouldn't give it up for anything. It has history (came from a relatively famous - in my world - old Naval aviator) from before, and with me.

Also, likely a "discount" model of way back because the jaws don't line up well. It may be bent, but not super likely, probably just not made with the greatest of care. The good news is that it's REALLY easy to fix if you have a mill or friend with a mill. Just machine the jaws in place (with the hardened inserts removed) and it's as good as any vise you're gonna find.

This could be done by hand with a little grinder wheel (the smaller the better) by putting some paint on the jaws (I'd still remove the inserts) and close it. Open and grind off the paint marks... Clean off the paint, apply a new layer, lather rinse repeat. Nice thin layer of paint applied with a rag or something, leave it wet. Water based or oil doesn't really matter. This will be slow and tedious, but simple. Eventually you'll have a world class fit for a vise. Just go until you have little dots of contact over the faces. Even as little as 10 percent total contact is WAY good enough. Just as long as it's evenly distributed.

Seems to have a neat little accessory with it. It's a nice vise!

Tools

edit: Just dawned on me, if the jaws don't touch when closed with the inserts removed, you'll have to grind the inserts. You'll have to do this again if you replace them. You will lose the "teeth" (knurling) if it has them, but with a really nice fit, you don't really need them. Reference any milling machine vise.

You could shim them also.
 
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ZRX61

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Todays Morgan 40... :)

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& yes, it will be refinished.... none of this *patina* malarky here... ;)
 

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Here is my recently inherited Wilton from my wife's Grandfather. Not even mounted yet. Still trying to decide to leave it as is or spruce her up a bit..

Leaning towards leaving it as is...

Nice looking Wilton... I'd also vote for disassemble/clean/lube perhaps without stripping and repaint. Be sure to check for a date stamping when on the bottom of the main sliding shaft! I would get a new set of jaws (autopts can set you up), but keep the old ones.

(But they also look great with a refinish!)

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Just be careful not to let spinning wire cup hit your bare hand or it will instantly strip your flesh to the bone. Keep hands away or use leather gloves. All wire cups and wire wheels shed occasional wire bits so you need face mask or at least glasses.


& a leather apron.... makes yer eyes water a bit when an errant wire staples a testical to yer leg.. :mad: or worse....:shocking:
 

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These are my latest vises.


(2) Stanley Handymans+ (1) rotates

Columbian 504--sheetmetal vise?---smooth jaws

Reed sheetmetal vise

All work nice and smooth.
 

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Nice looking Wilton... I'd also vote for disassemble/clean/lube perhaps without stripping and repaint. Be sure to check for a date stamping when on the bottom of the main sliding shaft! I would get a new set of jaws (autopts can set you up), but keep the old ones.

(But they also look great with a refinish!)

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OMG. Awesome collection of Vises Wilton :bowdown:

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Congratulations!!! :thumbup:

V!
 

gilbo

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i finally got a chance to finish up my restore on my Columbian C43, here a couple before & after
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^^^ Very nice Gilbo. The paint looks just right - not over done.

thanks, had one boo boo, painted the slide about 1/4 inch too long, :mad::mad::mad:,so it rubbed and scraped the red paint off one side of the slide when the vise is closed all the way
 
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dirtrider

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I'm going to throw mine in at the last second...

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It's a Wilton Schiller Park ILL pretty sure it was made somewhere between 1977-1983 anyways, found it in grandmas garage was my deceased grandpas probably would have either rotted there or been thrown away eventually so decided to save it and clean it up.
 

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my process was fairly easy, i was lucky to b able to get a vise with hardly any rust, it had more dirt and grime than anything else

1. i took a part the vise, really simple, pain in d bhind was getting the crimp ring off the acme screw
2. i wiped off as much of the crude as i could
3 soaked all the pieces in vinegar in a bucket for a day (just to remove wht rust it did have)
4 then soaked the vise pieces in simple green for a day
5 wire wheeled all the pieces
6 shot 2 coats of base primer, i used rustoleum rusty metal primer (light coats, multiple coats) i don't like drips
7. shot the vise pieces with red paint, again key is light coats but multiple coats

key to spraying that i use, is short strokes, keep the hands moving, and don't mess with the pieces after u spray.
spray and let it dry. i sprayed and let it dry over night since i was no hurry and then shot 2nd coat
 
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Hey, ZRX61 - what is that hole in the back of the anvil for on your Erie vise?

the vises with the little hole are suppose to have a little cutoff tool that came with the vise, that fits in there
 
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Well, the weather was FINALLY warm enough to do a little painting, so I was able to get a couple of the many vises I've been collecting done.

This Wilton Baby Bullet has been primered and waiting for paint since the end of November. Turned out pretty nice.

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I'm really happy with way this Yost 32C came out.

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If the weather holds, I've got a Parker 974 and a Wilton 1750 that are next in line.
 
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Just got this 8" Record for free from the mechanic at work! His exact words were "Why bother spending money on a vise when this ones been here, collecting dust for years?" OKAY! I'm in the process of getting all the rust off.
 

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Just got this 8" Record for free from the mechanic at work! His exact words were "Why bother spending money on a vise when this ones been here, collecting dust for years?" OKAY! I'm in the process of getting all the rust off.

Sheesh. Talk about right time, right place!
 

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Just got this 8" Record for free from the mechanic at work! His exact words were "Why bother spending money on a vise when this ones been here, collecting dust for years?" OKAY! I'm in the process of getting all the rust off.
I have a Record No. 8 too. They are monster vices. Here's mine for comparison - I can spot a few differences. It works great but is need of a cosmetic restoration. I paid $80 for it and was quite happy at that price. You definately got the better deal though!
 

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Just got this 8" Record for free from the mechanic at work! His exact words were "Why bother spending money on a vise when this ones been here, collecting dust for years?" OKAY! I'm in the process of getting all the rust off.


That's a great one.

You should take a minute to remount it a few inches forward on the bench. The static jaw should be just a fraction of an inch past the edge of the bench. That way you can clamp a long piece of work vertically and let it extend down toward the floor.
 

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Just got this 8" Record for free from the mechanic at work! His exact words were "Why bother spending money on a vise when this ones been here, collecting dust for years?" OKAY! I'm in the process of getting all the rust off.

Free? You can't **** any harder than that! :)
 

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Newly acquired (almost never used) Wilton Tradesman 1740. Also pictured is a small Wilton and a Japanese Craftsman.

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Baby Bear, Momma Bear, and Poppa Bear.

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For scale, Momma's a 4" 840.

Haven't found a model number on the 5". Looks a lot like the current 500s, but it seems to be about 1" shorter (according to the measurements on Wilton's ****** website). Date on it is '88
 

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Baby Bear, Momma Bear, and Poppa Bear.

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For scale, Momma's a 4" 840.

Haven't found a model number on the 5". Looks a lot like the current 500s, but it seems to be about 1" shorter (according to the measurements on Wilton's ****** website). Date on it is '88

good golly ms molly :eek::eek::eek::eek:
 

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Now if only he had a wilton 6" and 8" bullet.

If that happens, I hope that the 8" is large enough to hold a twin size mattress in the jaws, because I have a feeling I'll be sleeping in my barn.

My wife was very happy this afternoon when I told her I'd sold the little Prentiss that I recently bought.

She wasn't amused when she saw me dragging the 5" Wilton out of my car. It's a good thing that my barn is a big mess at the moment... If she saw how many vises I really have...
 

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Goddammitsomuch.

This was the first thing I thought of:

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I should probably seek help...
 

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PaulsGarage

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The only vise **** I can add are these photos of my *** (Big Beautiful Wilton)

:bounce:

I scored this 6.5" Tradesman for $150 off my local CL a couple months ago. It was still brand new and coated in cosmoline, more vise than I need but use it daily.

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airbuff101

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We all seem to think alike.This pic is a few years old after I refurbished a couple :
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Sure is handy to have a couple extra vises around to hold parts to their cousin's.
Rob
 
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