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OldCarGuy

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Knowing a good deal when I come across one, and wanting to increase the capacity of my air supply in my garages. I purchased a new model LS580V-601 TriMax compressor. The Trimax is a 5 HP three cylinder air compressor by Bendpak. The 80 gallon vertical A.S.M.E. tank is manufactured by Manchester. The motor is a massive Baldor 213T frame TEFC. Baldor is one of the top American brand motors. And being totally enclosed fanned cooled makes it more suited in adverse operating conditions. It came standard with a Siemen’s magnetic starter. And a Furnas pressure switch. The heart of the compressor is the three cylinder two stage Puma cast iron compressor that is made in Taiwan. The compressor’s 950 RPM is relatively low thusly makes for lower noise level and last longer. Having two first stage cylinders that feed into a third second stage cylinder. All mounted on a common cast iron crankcase. The big argument for three cylinders verses inline two, is that it has more even cooling.
Being a two stage, it has a working pressure as high as 175 PSI. with an impressive output of 20.2 CFM and 22.8 @ 90 PSI. .

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I have the new TriMax compressor plumbed into my BelAir 55 CFM refrigerant air dryer. My DevAir compressor will be the primary air source. And is set to come on at 130 PSI and kick off at 150 PSI. While the TriMax compressor is set to come on at 125 PSI and shut off at 135 PSI. Consequently it will only run when the Devair cannot keep up with my air demand.

With the two compressor located next to each other. I thought it would be good to compare the to units. Though there not in the same class, DevAir is a 100% duty rated industrial compressor with cast iron cylinders, heads, connecting rods, forged crank shaft, and a pressurized lubrication system. And has a Seven year warrantee covering the compressor. More ever the Devair comes at a premium price compared top the TriMax. However the TriMax is a great value not only for commercial use; but for home use.

The first half of the following video sound clip below has the Devair running by itself. It has a *********** slower pitch rhythm sound. Due to its’ larger diameter pistons and stroke along with its’ Low 635 RPM. Midway through you’ll hear it unload and the TriMax will start,, no pause. But you’ll notice a higher pitch sound along with a higher rhythm. In my opinion the Devair produces about a third less sound.



I set the clock on the post to compare the time each compressor takes to hit 150 PSI. Unfortunately the video clip didn’t workout. But I can tell you the results. Both tanks were emptied. With all valves closed I simultaneously started both compressors. After the 7 minutes and 10 seconds the Devair shut off as it hit 150 PSI. The TriMax continued on for another minute and 10 seconds. For a total time of 8 minutes 20 seconds to reach 150 PSI. That’s about 15% longer run time to reach 150 PSI.
 
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How did you determine the pump is from Puma?

I have a smaller variation of this series of pump on my porter cable.. (same as Craftsman Pro) made by devilbiss. The hour sight glass and cast iron logo is the same and I have been trying to determine who makes the pump.
 

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How did you determine the pump is from Puma?

I have a smaller variation of this series of pump on my porter cable.. (same as Craftsman Pro) made by devilbiss. The hour sight glass and cast iron logo is the same and I have been trying to determine who makes the pump.

It looks quite similar to my Eaton pump, too.

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I wonder if somebody is making the crankcases and such for all of them?
 

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What floor mounts do you prefer OldCarGuy? Nice video! Did you purchase another automatic drain for this compressor?
 
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OCG - on the new bend pack, is the baldor motor running @ 3450 range or 1750 range?

If it is running the lower 1750 RPM range could you post up the part number? I just picked up an Old Quincy, but the 5 horse motor that is on it is #1 making lots of bearing noise or something and #2 it is 3 phase.

Thanks!
 

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WOW, compulsive fixation behavior for air compressors at its finest....LOL
 

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BTW very nice install and I really like your old compressor just under the stairs, looks like you finally decide to sacrafice some more space to put the TriMax beside it.

But with your facility you have space to spare :thumbup:
 
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What floor mounts do you prefer OldCarGuy? Nice video! Did you purchase another automatic drain for this compressor?

I prefer the round Neoprene anti vibration leveling mounts with leveling screws in the center. These cost about $25.00 each. http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4C978

No I didn’t purchase a second auto-drain valve. Instead I added a check valve at each compressor and connected both to my existing auto-drain valve. The check valve was to make sure that the water wouldn’t be forced into the other receiver with any pressure fluctuation between them.
 
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OCG - on the new bend pack, is the baldor motor running @ 3450 range or 1750 range?

If it is running the lower 1750 RPM range could you post up the part number? I just picked up an Old Quincy, but the 5 horse motor that is on it is #1 making lots of bearing noise or something and #2 it is 3 phase.

Thanks!



Both the BendPak and Devair compressure use Baldor motors that run at 1750 RPM. With the difference of pulley sizes, the pump on the BendPak runs at 950 RPM while the Devair runs at 635 RPM.

The BendPack’s motor is larger with a 213T frame and is TEFC. Pulls 20.5 Amps at 230 Volts. Its’ spec # 37L799T877G1 and does not have a cat # on the name plate. I couldn’t find it listed by Baldor. More than likely it may be made special for them.

The DevAir’s Baldor motor has a 184T frame and is the open type. Pulls 23 Amps at 230 Volts. Its’ spec # 36E02W849 and Cat # L14110T. That also isn’t listed by Baldor.

The BendPack motor is far larger, 213T frame verses a 184T. And being TEFC (totally enclosed fan cooled) makes it more expensive. But would be far better choice in severe operating conditions.

If you noticed, I had removed the motor starters on both compressors. I was in the process of determining which compressor draws more amps. Just before the compressors reached 150 PSI, the Devair pulled 25% less amps than the BendPak. However I not sure that my amp probe was 100% reliable. And didn’t post that information. I did however determine that the Devair compressor developed far less heat than the Bendpak. The readings came from a reliable digital laser radiation gun. When I return from my trip, I’ll follow up with a complete report.
 

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If i remember the review on the Devair compressor you stated if you had the need for more air you could / would go with the upgrade of the 7.5 hp motor and could run the same pump.

Thats what i was afraid of when i bought my air compressor ans was looking at 5 hp units and ened up getting the 7.5hp motor from the get-go.

Glad your upgrade is working out.

BTW : what was the cost difference of getting a new second unit vs having the 7.5hp motor on the Devair ?
 
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If i remember the review on the Devair compressor you stated if you had the need for more air you could / would go with the upgrade of the 7.5 hp motor and could run the same pump.

Thats what i was afraid of when i bought my air compressor ans was looking at 5 hp units and ened up getting the 7.5hp motor from the get-go.

Glad your upgrade is working out.

BTW : what was the cost difference of getting a new second unit vs having the 7.5hp motor on the Devair ?

It would have been a fraction of the cost to upgrade the Devair to 7.5 HP. Just the cost of the 7 1/2 HP motor and increase the breaker and wire size. Rather than to purchase a second compressor. But because I leave my compressor running 24 x 7 and I seldom need the added capacity, my operating costs would be far less running a single 5 HP. And another benefit is that I have twice the tank capacity. I can still upgrade each compressor to 7 1/2 HP.. Can you imagine how much air supply I'd have then?
 

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I believe that if Bend Pak gave me a free lift I wouldn't mind buying a compressor from them. :thumbup:
 
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Compiled below are the specifications of my new BendPak air compressor compared to my DevAir. The big plus of the BendPak is that its’ original purchase price was $655.00 less when you take in account the shipping charges added to the DevAir. Though both units have 1750 RPM Baldor Motor, the BendPak uses a larger frame and is TEFC verses Devair’s Open Frame. Making it perform better and last longer in adverse conditions.

Although the BendPak specifies that their unit puts out 20 CFM’s @ 175 PSI verses DevAir’s 19.1, my personal test may be contradictory. It took 500 seconds for the BendPak to fill its’ 80 gallon tank to 150 PSI. Where as the DevAir took 420 seconds or 19% less time. The Amperage draw of the DevAir started lower at 9.7 verses 11.9. But took 21.7 Amps verses BendPak’s 19.9 Amps once it reached 150 PSI. Might someone more versed in motor efficiencies recommend a better way of comparison. And determine which unit actually operates more efficiently.

It would be nice if anyone would take the time to post their finding of their comparable compressors. Then I’ll try to add it to this compilation.

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Someone asked that I have a run-off between my new model number AC 580V Snap_On 5 HP two-stage air compressor and my other two compressors that I have review. Since Snap-On has discontinued this model, I was had pressed to find the particulars like the cylinder bore and stroke. Like the rest of Snap-On products, this compressor is top shelf. It has a total cast iron compressor. With heads in a “V” configuration for better more even cooling. Driven by an open 184T frame Marathon 5 HP 1745 RPM 240 Volt single phase motor. With a built-in electronic mother board that controls the 240 Volt relay and warning lights. It is wired into the pressure switch and has sensors for low oil level and dirty air filter. Because of the low 720 RPM compressor and the intake muffler silencer, this machine runs extremely smooth and quiet.

It takes 8 minutes and 10 seconds to fill its' 80 gallon tank to 150 PSI. a full minute longer than my Devair; but 10 seconds shorter than my BendPak TriMax. The Snap-On pulls 27.4 Amps when it reached 150 PSI. That's 27% higher than the Devair and 37% more than the TriMax.

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Intake muffler and nameplate.
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Marathon motor's nameplate 240 Volt single phase motor 1745 RPM 184T frame
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Had to bump this old thread to mention I liked the muffler pictured above and plan to install it on my compressor. Thanks for the info.
 

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Three air compressor's -- WOW!! How much air do you use in that shop of yours?

Just two, I think. The SO is gone.

I would love to have a second compressor. My 5HP IR with almost 20CFM is fine 95% of the time, but I do have a few air grinders that it has a hard time running. A second unit for those instances would be great to have, and when I have a shop with the room, I plan to add another 5hp, or maybe a 7.5hp unit.
 

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I dig deep lol. Also what is good is the people have been working with the equipment for a while and can have more insight into the performance of the machines.


Other than that I mostly lurk. 5 years here and I just read a lot.
 
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