Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT 1950s Craftsman Garage retro remodel

Yea my handles have a diff design than that on them. I say your is older.

RL, thanks for linking to owwm.org. I haven't been able to get off that site for a couple days. Hope the shop is coming along for you.

FunkyfullWidth said:

This thread and your garage is an inspiration to us all, I'm sure. I've always had a sweet spot for vintage machinery and tools, but you sir have taken it to another level I could only dream of. Your ingenuity and perserverance is truly something to be proud of.

My girlfriends grandfather said he would be giving me an old craftsman radial arm saw and an old bandsaw which is what got me looking at this thread. I've been more of a metal guy so seeing what you've been doing with wood is definately awe inspiring. I also inherited a few of my grandfathers old tools, a polished metal jig saw and a few sanders as well as his handtools. I'll post pictures of some of my older stuff in my garage thread as to not clog up the works here. But once again, my hats off to you.

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carbons4 said:

This last sunday I found a later version of the roll around,(and I did not get it for free either),that has the crown logo on the bottom drawer of to one side. Not centered like the older ones.

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FunkyFullWidth,

Thank you for all the kind words. I really appreciate it! It has been loads of fun, stressful at times, but always a great learning experience.

Both you and Carbons4 can feel free to post up any/all goodies you got! This thread is friendly to such things

cdrewferd said:

RL, thanks for linking to owwm.org. I haven't been able to get off that site for a couple days. Hope the shop is coming along for you.

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It really is amazing over there...TONS of incredible knowledge. My Craftsman knowledge doesn't even begin to hit the tip of the iceberg compared to Brian Kachadurian from OWWM.

Red Leader said:

FunkyFullWidth,

Thank you for all the kind words. I really appreciate it! It has been loads of fun, stressful at times, but always a great learning experience.

Both you and Carbons4 can feel free to post up any/all goodies you got! This thread is friendly to such things

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I know you said feel free... But I got a good amount of stuff today in addition to the few things I had already. I think most of it is right around the era you're into. I posted pics in my garage thread if you want to take a look and let me know what you think, if you don't mind of course.. The ras was found in the dump by my girlfriends grandfather, and the best part, it purrs when it runs. It has the number 58, which i'm thinking mean 1958

Pics are on the second page, here's the link
The Fruits of My labor

Alright guys, it has been too long!!!


First of all, it has been too long since I posted a 'real' update of any kind and I really owe it to you all.


Second...it really, really has been too long...





This was the sorry, crappy state the garage was in...today.


I have terrible garage discipline (which I hope will get better with better organization) so I usually let it go for a while and then have major clean-ups. Well, the wifey has a project coming up so I figure now is the perfect time to get to it.





So just a few seconds later....













And WHALLA!






Haha, if only it worked like that


It has been a while since things got cleaned up. It felt good.





I also decided to move a few things around. Because I have a 2 car garage shop that is really just a 1 car garage shop (note car on right side of garage), it forces me to get a little creative. I saw a picture somewhere and it gave me a little inspiration to move the jointer and the table saw together. (heck, maybe it was a table saw/jointer combo that gave me the idea?).








There is enough walk-around room around the jointer and the band saw so I think it is a good solution to maximize space in the shop. The jointer fence is sitting up about 2" above the table saw top surface, but I plan on getting a rolling base for the table saw, so that will kick it's height up a bit and I can adjust it a bit myself. The plan is to be able to take a work piece and run it easily from the table saw to the jointer. I still need to work on an outfeed setup, but it is looking good so far. Eventually, I may move the jointer over to the other side of the table saw, which may end up making more sense, but I need to be strategic since the left side of the table saw is functioning as a router/shaper setup. It would be hard to switch that to the right side because the router would block access to the handwheel. Perhaps I can leave the router over on that side and still move the jointer over there - we'll see. I'll play around with it some more. Your thoughts on the setup are definitely welcome and appreciated!

Speaking of the band saw...





...I've finally been able to start working on it! I got it all wired up. The only thing it really needs are the tires put on and the blade set up. The motor is kicking out 18A. I have a 20A dedicated circuit for it that isn't quite hooked up yet, so just for fun I plugged it into the 15A circuit, which told me 2 things - the band saw works, and my GFCI works too

What band saw pseudo-refurb would be complete without a glamour shot?






Also, I never highlighted this little guy, but this is one of the newer additions to the 1950s Craftsman Garage - a 1950s Craftsman oil-less paint sprayer





I found it at an estate sale months ago. The picture isn't that great and it has a layer of dust on it, but what is cool is that I'm not sure if it was ever used. It may have been bought and then just put away. It is in that good of condition. When I found it, it had cloth tying up the electrical cord and when I undid the cloth and pulled the cord, it cracked everywhere just from moving it.

It will need a new cord and a probably a complete rebuild, because well, it pretty much doesn't work at all

I got excited about this thing when I found it because I didn't have a compressor. I'm known as the guy that tops of his car tires with a bicycle pump. My neighbor really lets me have it with that one. In any case, I was jazzed about this thing...and then that jazziness quickly started fading when I turned it on, hooked it up to my motorcycle tire, and noticed the tire getting flatter instead of firmer.........


I'll...need to look into that one I have never rebuilt a compressor before, so it should be fun. I just hope it works when I'm done with it!






You may have noticed another table saw in the first picture...yep, it is another Unisaw




I found this guy and decided to do a refurb on it. Completely cleaned and polished (took FOREVER, all done by hand), lubed, some new paint, new belts, wet-sanded the top, etc. I was thinking maybe I'd just keep it - it is going to be a sweet saw. It has a 3HP single phase 220V motor, which is the most powerful saw my garage has seen. It is very tempting. However, I know I will have that General table saw coming my way and I know I won't have room for both. So I'm thinking it will probably go.

So that is the update! And since we've been talking a lot about tool chests lately, I'll leave you with a 'fun' shot for the end of this update -




That's all for now!

Nice update Red Leader. Glad to hear that some progress has been made during the winter months. It is amazing what some good concentrated time can do to a messy garage. But, did all that stuff really get put away, or just moved to the other side of the car? Don't answer that one... It is better for us just to admire the results of hard work. It looks great!

As for the placement of the table saw, function should be the governing factor as to location, but there is one other that trumps it... Make sure her car door will not come close to hitting it when opened fully. If you can maker her happy and the saw still works for your needs, then you are good. Getting it perfect for you and she has to struggle will never end well. Just a thought...

That floor really turned out beautiful. Wood Mag really needs to do a follow-up on restoration of old 1950's dilapidated concrete floor slabs and how to get beautiful results. It would be another DIY article that many others have need for. Great article BTW! And thanks for throwing in GJ and owwm. I really would be interested in how many new members your reference has generated. We all know Jack has brought in his fair share... Speak up if you are new to GJ because of Red Leader's workshop coverage!

Oh, and I see that others have had a hard time finding the Wood Mag for Garages 2013, I found mine at Home Depot and they were still there last week.

Keep us informed if the next project that she has for you involves using power tools!

Well done RL. I've been trying to catch up since I found your thread. I'm finally here. I actually just got home a bit ago from picking up a nice little 1/2hp '60s model grinder in excellent condition. I can't wait to get to restoring it.

Do you have anymore pics of that little sprayer? I think that is what this one is that is for sale near me. They are advertising it as a compressor though?
seems a little pricey at $120

Keep up the great work.

Is that a Craftsman table saw with hole for router attachment? Can modern day router fits? How much did you get that for?

That tool chest is "to die for". That is one of the top items I have seen in a long time. Someone needs to kick Sear's backside back to 50's-60's and make them reproduce those cabinets in the same quality as the one you have.
I am sitting here with your magazine spread open "Retro Remodel" and wondering what you did with all your "other" stuff during the shoot? You got lotza stuff not seen in the article.
BTW: Your an inspiration and I really enjoyed the magazine article. Where did you get inspired on the Art Deco touches?
Here are some pics of a 1960's Craftsman 7 1/2" Circular Saw I am restoring.
No parts thru Sears, but I am getting by with standard hardware.

Wingnut65 said:

But, did all that stuff really get put away, or just moved to the other side of the car? Don't answer that one...

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Haha I LOL'd at this. No, it actually cleaned up! Well, you can see the bench is still a mess. But that will be for another day. As previously mentioned, I have terrible garage discipline, so stuff comes out but doesn't get put back. It starts accumulating and looks like that.

I'm glad you enjoyed the magazine. Yes, it was really important to me to mention OWWM and GJ. These sites have helped me a lot and I wanted to drop some names Did you see that your old radio made the cut?

Just in case anyone is looking for the magazine, it is titled 'Dream Garages and Shops'. I need to buy another copy since I butchered the one I was sent for the photo frame.

It is good to hear from you Jeff. How is life?

Fyrme said:

Well done RL. I've been trying to catch up since I found your thread. I'm finally here. I actually just got home a bit ago from picking up a nice little 1/2hp '60s model grinder in excellent condition. I can't wait to get to restoring it.

Do you have anymore pics of that little sprayer? I think that is what this one is that is for sale near me. They are advertising it as a compressor though?

seems a little pricey at $120

Keep up the great work.

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GREAT grinder! The most common ones are the 1/4hp and 1/3hp models. The 1/2hp models don't come along to often. I missed out on an absolutely beautiful late 1950s Craftsman 1/2hp grinder...but the guy who bought it was the one who told me about the Craftsman tool chest...so I have no qualms. Fritz...if you read this...post some pictures of that grinder!!!

The compressor/paint sprayer I have is a little different than that one, but they are from around the same era. There is a really cool 'rocketeer' looking one from the late 30s/1940s that I would LOVE to have, but I couldn't pass this one up...it was in such good shape. I agree, $120 is a little steep for that guy. Be patient...keep looking, and more will come.

I will try to get some more pictures of the compressor when I can get to it and dust it off a little bit.

Trey T said:

Is that a Craftsman table saw with hole for router attachment? Can modern day router fits? How much did you get that for?

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That is a 1950s/1960s Craftsman floor saw. The extension is aftermarket, made by accura:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KILH0E/?tag=atomicindus08-20

It works with any modern router. It is asian made and not quite as refined as some of the other router table extensions, but the price is right and it complements the look of the table saw well. It works well...I have no complaints! I just wish they made one without the router hole so I could get another one and use it on the other side! I MUCH prefer the look of a solid extension than a webbed extension. It just makes the table saw look so much more, well, SOLID! I suppose some will be agitated by the fact that I put an Asian made product on this American made saw, but if I could find an American equivalent, I'd go that way. Perhaps one day I'll upgrade to a Bench Dog, although I am not sure if they are made in the USA either.

I actually really lucked out with this extension. It turns out that this table saw's fence system glides on and in controlled by the front and back face of the main table and extensions. Therefore, if the length of the extension was just a little different than the exact 27" of the table, it wouldn't work. It turns out it matches perfectly and the fence glides seamlessly across the table and extension front. I did have to drill holes in the extension to match the craftsman table as it is drilled for the Delta style hole pattern, but no biggie.

HSpencer said:

That tool chest is "to die for". That is one of the top items I have seen in a long time. Someone needs to kick Sear's backside back to 50's-60's and make them reproduce those cabinets in the same quality as the one you have.
I am sitting here with your magazine spread open "Retro Remodel" and wondering what you did with all your "other" stuff during the shoot? You got lotza stuff not seen in the article.
BTW: Your an inspiration and I really enjoyed the magazine article. Where did you get inspired on the Art Deco touches?
Here are some pics of a 1960's Craftsman 7 1/2" Circular Saw I am restoring.
No parts thru Sears, but I am getting by with standard hardware.

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It really is quite awesome. Full credit goes to FritzA on here for alerting me to it. He told me if I didn't buy it, he would. I believed him!

I appreciate you generous thoughts about the garage project. I'm not entirely sure where the art deco thing came from. I think I sort of 'grew' into it. I didn't even start off liking old tools. This has only been something I've picked up in the last 2 1/2 years. I somehow innately/subconsciously knew old tools were solid since I beat on them in my dad's garage and they kept going, but it didn't really 'hit' me until recently. I actually had a great conversation with a fine gentleman who came recently to buy a jointer from me. I think he only got started about 8 or 10 months ago and he's already put me to shame haha! We talked about how you can get so much tool for so little money. He said that he can't understand why everybody wouldn't want the old tools. It brings up that 'we love that great, old tools are cheap while at the same time lamenting it because it means that nobody values these tools or what they represent anymore' topic of discussion, which I still struggle with. The idealist in me is saddened that we don't cherish anymore so many things that made this country great and that these tools represent, but the realist in my also recognizes that I probably wouldn't be able to afford these tools if they were cherished and valued like they should be.

I don't know if I've ever said this, but I'll say it here - if one really, really wanted to, one could put together an entire workshop (I mean EVERYTHING), for free. I've seen grinders for free, tons of radial saws for free, jointers for free, combo machines for free. Heck, I even saw the same exact model of Craftsman cabinet saw I have, for free. You just have to look and be okay with putting in some elbow grease and maybe some electrical work. You can't be choosy about model or condition. But you can do it. Like the recent tool chest find...it is amazing what people will throw away.

There was a guy on the OWWM forum that got a HUGE cache of woodworking tools for free...I think he got a unisaw, 2 delta multiplex saws, a Delta jointer, Delta band saw, and TONS of smaller electrical tools and accessories. I'll see if I can find that post. It is amazing and very drool-worthy.

Wow, huge sidetrack. Anyways, back to art deco. It just kind of 'happened' for me. The more exposure I got to these old tools, the more I saw the beauty of them, especially some of the more incredible examples, like the '39 Walker Turners and cast iron base Deltas. It really grew on me and it developed into an affinity. I now am a great appreciator for many things of the golden era. Another little side hobby of mine is collecting vintage clothes. To me they have a style and quality unmatched by today's offerings, much like the tools. Also, like the tools, they are severely under-valued and under-appreciated except from niche collector groups. In that photo of me in the garage mag, I'm wearing a modern fedora, but the pants are from my favorite suit, which is from the late 1930s-early1940s. Actually, just today I found a suit that I can date to around 1946. It is amazing what you can find.

Regarding art deco, here is a re-pasting from another post I made:










Examples of 'Streamline' art deco:












I actually prefer the more 'classical' and traditional approach to art deco as it first appeared in the 1920s with asymmetrical lines and geometric patterns. It is my absolute favorite art style and one that was not motivated by any political climate or revolt, but simply for its beauty.

Slightly related...talking about art - not that you needed any encouragement, but just because...the art of the tool:

HSpencer said:

That tool chest is "to die for". That is one of the top items I have seen in a long time. Someone needs to kick Sear's backside back to 50's-60's and make them reproduce those cabinets in the same quality as the one you have.
I am sitting here with your magazine spread open "Retro Remodel" and wondering what you did with all your "other" stuff during the shoot? You got lotza stuff not seen in the article.
BTW: Your an inspiration and I really enjoyed the magazine article. Where did you get inspired on the Art Deco touches?
Here are some pics of a 1960's Craftsman 7 1/2" Circular Saw I am restoring.
No parts thru Sears, but I am getting by with standard hardware.

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I recently traded Bluebolt this exact same model of saw for a little 1940s/50s Dunlap art deco sander. That saw worked great! You will like it.

Red Leader said:

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I'm glad you enjoyed the magazine. Yes, it was really important to me to mention OWWM and GJ. These sites have helped me a lot and I wanted to drop some names Did you see that your old radio made the cut?

Just in case anyone is looking for the magazine, it is titled 'Dream Garages and Shops'. I need to buy another copy since I butchered the one I was sent for the photo frame.

It is good to hear from you Jeff. How is life?

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Yes, I saw the radio and appreciate the shout out. There are just as many mentors here on GJ as there are those looking for knowledge, ideas and guidance. And your constant persistence on bringing up OWWM has dragged some of us to the other side. Thanks for that awesome resource of knowledge and history!

I have most of my life back now that I have completed all the CEU's I needed for my license renewal last month. Procrastinators have a habit of waiting for the 23rd or 24th month of a 2-year renewal to take care of the needed classes! But the rest of the time has been planning a big Honey-Do project - to replace our 13' long built-in entertainment center with something that will display sports collectibles - footballs, baseballs and 2 signed jerseys, a gas fireplace, a TV larger than the 32" we've been stuck with and all the electronics to drive a home theater. I am now well versed on vent-free fireplaces, flat screen TV options and acoustical wall systems and I am still learning surround sound. I will be updating the Hideout thread with build progress.

Red Leader said:

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Just in case anyone is looking for the magazine, it is titled 'Dream Garages and Shops'. I need to buy another copy since I butchered the one I was sent for the photo frame.

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Get a couple copies. RL Jr would really like a copy when he gets older. Since he will grow up in this place, he will be grateful to have a copy of his own!

As for your awesome Deco photos, I grew up in Miami and am very familiar with the Miami Beach Art Deco buildings. They are classic!

I have one of those "Rocketeer" compressors you were talking about Red Leader. Took me about 6 months to find it and when the guy shipped it he used virtually no packing and put it in a box too small so part of the base casting broke. I am using it with a 2 horse briggs for my vintage shop truck.

Red Leader said:

I recently traded Bluebolt this exact same model of saw for a little 1940s/50s Dunlap art deco CIRCULAR SAW. That saw worked great! You will like it.

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Fixed that for you. I really need to update my thread!

bluebolt said:

Fixed that for you. I really need to update my thread!

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Ha! I must have been typing that in the middle of my 'photo quest' for the post above



Yeah, get with the program! Update it already!

Those slackers...people that take months off neglecting their garage build...


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carbons4 said:

I have one of those "Rocketeer" compressors you were talking about Red Leader. Took me about 6 months to find it and when the guy shipped it he used virtually no packing and put it in a box too small so part of the base casting broke. I am using it with a 2 horse briggs for my vintage shop truck.

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Dang, that *****...I'm sorry to hear that! Still...would love to see some pictures.

Very cool

So...some new vintage Craftsman-ness is going to be appearing in the garage. Pic up soon.

Some hints...

More than 1 tool.

More than 100lbs worth of toolage.

From the 1950s.


Has something that makes it very special.



Okay, guessing time!

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RL! I've been trying to do some catch-up since I've been away from the GJ and, man, you knocked it out of the park. Organization, more Cman goodies, and a magazine feature to top it off!

Best of all, I like the wood strips. Aesthetically speaking, it RULES! Man, I've got about a month until I can start my garage project and yours has lit a fire in me. Completely inspiring, man. Neat job.

Guess I am going to have to get a replacement disc and cord for my camera so I can load some pictures.......

"More than 100lbs worth of toolage."

Did you get a loaded mechanics wall box?

Red Leader, thanks for posting tool photos, I really enjoyed them. Anything from the 20s to the 60s interests me. After that, everything went plastic or potmetal. I have to stop in awe of the American engineering of that era. Sure makes you wonder what happened to us, don't you think?

-Brent- said:

RL! I've been trying to do some catch-up since I've been away from the GJ and, man, you knocked it out of the park. Organization, more Cman goodies, and a magazine feature to top it off!

Best of all, I like the wood strips. Aesthetically speaking, it RULES! Man, I've got about a month until I can start my garage project and yours has lit a fire in me. Completely inspiring, man. Neat job.

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Thanks Brent, I appreciate your comments! I still need to seal the in-between joints, but all the 'hard' work is done! Whew!

HSpencer said:

Red Leader, thanks for posting tool photos, I really enjoyed them. Anything from the 20s to the 60s interests me. After that, everything went plastic or potmetal. I have to stop in awe of the American engineering of that era. Sure makes you wonder what happened to us, don't you think?

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Me too. Some of those table saws from the 1920s are absolutely killer. I came across an old 1920s Yates American No 20 or 30...which is an extremely huge, awesome, sliding table saw. It had all the major accessories with it...fence, quadrant, guard, etc. Sadly, the seller wanted $4k for it. That was about $3.6K past my abilities

Back in the day, those Yates and Fay & Egan saws were tops. Same with Tannewitz and Oliver - it doesn't get much more heavy duty and finer than saws like those! Have you browsed here yet? http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/pubs.aspx

If not, you have to check it out...just make sure you clear your schedule for a few hours! Check out Fay & Egan, Tannewitz, Oliver, Yates American, 1939 Delta, 1939 Walker Turner, Atlas, Duro, Beaver, Boice Crane, Crescent, Parks, Powermatic, and Sprunger. Just take a gander through some of those old catalogs...and see the beauty of the woodworking machine.

So a little something followed me home....











Pretty sweet, eh? That's not even the best part.








This is:




















Pretty freakin' cool!!! I picked this up the other day from a gentleman that wanted to donate his grandfather's saw/jointer combo. I had no idea it would be so well-documented. Fresh from 1954.

This one won't be mine to keep, boys. My intent is to simply be the caretaker for a brief moment in time and pass it on to someone just starting out who needs a way to square up and cut some wood.

Although, I must admit...I might just keep the tool stand brochure. It is so cool!!!

Red Leader said:

So a little something followed me home....

Pretty sweet, eh? That's not even the best part.

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Where did you pick this up from? That is the Exact table saw/jointer setup my father had. He added one more solid wing on to the table saw, but the rest of the setup is spot on! I have not seen another one like it anywhere... I just got smacked upside the head by about 10000 memories!

Gee that looks familar! I have almost the identical setup but mine has a jackshaft to run both tools off of one motor.

I just saw that exact model of table saw at the farm auction down the road today. It was missing the table extentions though. If a guy wanted to buy one to flip what do you think is a profitable price to pay? They also have a small vintage Craftsman machinist tool box there that matches your larger box. Oh and a big ol anvil! The auction is Sunday.

On a different note, I picked up a nice Craftsman King-Seeley yesterday. score! I also have leads on two different 40s era Delta floor model drill presses, but I'm gun shy on how much to pay. I want another vintage drill so I can sell my '69 model Craftsman

Oh yeah! The classic Craftsman table saw/jointer set up. Nothing finer than that. It was such an efficient combo, I cannot see why current makers have not followed that lead. I worked with an old finish carpenter who had this very set up. He would tell me to be careful as the jointer was "nasty" if you got your fingers in it. Here is another thing: Have you noticed that spell check does not recognize the word "jointer"? type it in and you get a red underline on it in that spelling. Kinda like when they stopped saying "problems" and started using "issues". Old people like me don't do well with changes!
What more efficient way to do carpenter work than have one's jointer set right on the left of the table saw? I think there would be less "issues" with one's work if one had his/her (gender indifferent) jointer set on the same base as the table saw. If a less than 40 year old read what I just wrote here (he/she---don't want no gender "issues") would think I am crazy (and I am) but it's a good, fuzzy crazy!!
Your a lucky guy to have that one!!! I am envious!!!

Cool find.
I had to go see the write up in the magazine. Great job.

Now a classic CMan score. It was the full monte out of Craftsman double machine stand with the switch and the wheels woo hoo.

With such pristine dirty paper, ya gotta scan it and post it on Vintage Machinery.

Way to go, but now you have created another dilema, what to keep?

I just got that same jointer last week. It's mounted on the stand that you have listed in the circular saw pamphlet and the power tool bench listed in the jointer pamphlet.

But any chance on a few more pictures of how they have the motors set up on your combo?

MPOWERD said:

Where did you pick this up from? That is the Exact table saw/jointer setup my father had. He added one more solid wing on to the table saw, but the rest of the setup is spot on! I have not seen another one like it anywhere... I just got smacked upside the head by about 10000 memories!

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Thanks for posting that. It is one of the alternate goals of this project, to 'bring people back' to a time of good memories, of working with their father or grandfather out in a garage with similar tools. Your post made me smile.

Shoottx said:

Way to go, but now you have created another dilema, what to keep?

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If I was just starting out, it may have been, but no dilemma now. I am intent on passing the combo onto someone else who needs it. The owner was ready for it to go, so I wanted to grab it just so I could keep until the opportune moment when someone who doesn't have these tools yet and needs them can come along. Now, I just need to find someone!

Thanks for your kind words about the write-up as well.

FunkyfullWidth said:

I just got that same jointer last week. It's mounted on the stand that you have listed in the circular saw pamphlet and the power tool bench listed in the jointer pamphlet.

But any chance on a few more pictures of how they have the motors set up on your combo?

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The motor is attached to a sheet metal bracket that slips into both the higher and lower sheet metal crossmembers on the stand. I'll try and get a more detailed picture of it.

Honestly, it is a little bit of a hokey setup. The motor does not tilt with the arbor, but remains on 1 stationary plane. It does slide back and forth a little on a hinged rod, which would indicate to me that it was intended to be able to slide if cutting at an angle that would have made the motor/belt positioning 'unhappy'. Somewhat crude, but I've not really heard anything against it. I suppose the benefit is that you don't load down the rear trunnion of the saw with the weight of the motor, which in these contractor-type saws, has the potential to become problematic over time, with excess wear on the trunnions and elevation acme threaded screws.

This setup was intended to have both tools running off the same machine, but the PO decided it was probably a hassle, didn't enjoy the power loss, or got tired of switching belts, so he attached a secondary, dedicated motor for the jointer. Smart man, too, running it on a 1750rpm motor...

HSpencer said:

Oh yeah! The classic Craftsman table saw/jointer set up. Nothing finer than that. It was such an efficient combo, I cannot see why current makers have not followed that lead. I worked with an old finish carpenter who had this very set up. He would tell me to be careful as the jointer was "nasty" if you got your fingers in it. Here is another thing: Have you noticed that spell check does not recognize the word "jointer"? type it in and you get a red underline on it in that spelling. Kinda like when they stopped saying "problems" and started using "issues". Old people like me don't do well with changes!
What more efficient way to do carpenter work than have one's jointer set right on the left of the table saw? I think there would be less "issues" with one's work if one had his/her (gender indifferent) jointer set on the same base as the table saw. If a less than 40 year old read what I just wrote here (he/she---don't want no gender "issues") would think I am crazy (and I am) but it's a good, fuzzy crazy!!
Your a lucky guy to have that one!!! I am envious!!!

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I'll feel even better when I see someone making sawdust with it

Fyrme said:

I just saw that exact model of table saw at the farm auction down the road today. It was missing the table extentions though. If a guy wanted to buy one to flip what do you think is a profitable price to pay? They also have a small vintage Craftsman machinist tool box there that matches your larger box. Oh and a big ol anvil! The auction is Sunday.

On a different note, I picked up a nice Craftsman King-Seeley yesterday. score! I also have leads on two different 40s era Delta floor model drill presses, but I'm gun shy on how much to pay. I want another vintage drill so I can sell my '69 model Craftsman

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To be honest, the most profitable items would probably be the anvil, the machinists chest, with the combo unit being a distant third. I know very little about these things, but I hear that anvils are one of those 'they don't make them like they used to' items. Apparently, they have a very specific heat treat which is expensive or labor-intensive to do. Most/all cheaper, imported anvils today will not have this heat treat and attention to detail. Around here, anvils go for a pretty penny. If it is a huge anvil, I believe the demand/price exponentially increases.

As you can see, this combo unit was given away for free. A lot of people don't see the use of an 8" table saw and a 4" jointer, although folks back in the day used to build houses with this stuff. A smaller blade magnifies blade deflection less than a larger blade, and a 4" jointer is probably more than enough for what most people would use it for. But it isn't 'uber cool', ya know?

These machines are probably the absolute best thing to find if you are putting a woodshop together on the cheap, because they do the work and they are, well, cheap.

I wouldn't go out of my way to try to buy one of these to re-sell. If you do happen to purchase it at this sale, you just might find yourself liking it enough to keep and use it