flashman
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Okay...finished and it is a mediocre restore.
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let's see your craftsman block grinders
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Outlawmws
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I think I'd re-strip and fill the pits with body putty or the like, then re-shoot.
flashman
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I most likely will down the road. Its unfortunate that happened but I know never to do it again.
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rickhigginshtbr
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mcmlvif100
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go get it now. the side cover's should have been all you needed to see
Agreed. Looks a lot like my 3/4 horse. Zoomed in on the picture and it appears that everything is there, including the dip tray and the owners manual. Good luck.
Outlawmws
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Comparing the wheels to the 2X4's in the bench I'd say that was an 8" It can't be too low of HP...
dimwittedmoose51
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It's at least a 3/4.......
GirchyGirchy
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Any one in SE Michigan, looking for a little 1/4 H.P. $10 grinder?
Nice, complete [tool rests, wheel covers, eye shields] CM Block grinder. Can't read model number though.
I talked with the seller on Aug 6th, it was available; and it is still listed today Aug 11th.
SE Michigan - Macomb Twp
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/tls/3980300613.html
Some one please go get this guy.
Looks exactly like mine, which I bought for $40 from a coworker. It was his FIL's.
Runs pretty well, don't have it mounted yet - going to steal an idea I saw elsewhere and mount it on a trailer hitch, and put a piece of square tubing under my bench so I can slide it on when I need it. No stand for it.
I'll post pics later, but I found a way to retrofit some new replacement eye shields onto the existing mounting ears on the grinder. The originals were trashed.
GirchyGirchy
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BTW, anyone have a link to a thread where someone had made their own end caps? I've been trying to find it but can't so far.
jakemac
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WOO - HOO !!!!!! I NOW OWN A BLOCKHEAD !!!!!!!!!! 
A BIG ONE ! 8"
A POWERFUL ONE !!
1hp
WITH A STAND !!!
I went to my 2nd favorite used tool place today (wed) after looking at this weeks video on their website (a 1+ hour drive). In the background I spotted a distinctive square-ish shape. I figured that it was sitting on the table and was likely a 6" 1/4hp, but when I got there, I found that it was an 8" 1hp on a stand (I had to scrape paint off the label to check).
The asking price was $50. The owner told me that it made a noise when starting up, so we plugged it in to test it. While starting up it makes an awful wailing/howling/groaning (no real way to explain it) noise, then purrs like a kitten once up to speed. It takes 2 1/2 min to run down to a stop.
I explained that I'd have to tear it down and clean/inspect/lube it (or more) to fix the noise, as well as make new shield inserts, re-wire the light, and deal with the horrendous brushed on paint job to get it running properly. I asked if he would take $40. He agreed. It went into my truck.
Details :
Mod# 397.19360 (same as the first post in this thread)
1hp
115/230 volts
6.0/3.4 amps
5/8" arbor
The lamp is broken, it'll need a rebuild. The paint is brushed on. Some idiot painted over the data label, so it can't be read. I spent 4 hours scraping, cleaning, and squinting with a magnifying glass and flashlight to read the faded imprint of the label to get the info. I may have missed a number on the s/n, but I got all the important data, so I should be good. Eventually, a new label will have to be made. The stand was originally a "diaper load" green. I won't be restoring that color
. The original color of the grinder was metallic grey with a metallic silver center panel. I may go that route, or I may get creative. IDK. It came with 2 new-ish wheels. A Norton 7", and for the box truck guys, a Snap-On 8".
The re-build will have to wait, too many projects on my list. I can still use it for now, but until I have a chance to deal with that noise, I will try to keep it light duty.
Here are the pics :
A BIG ONE !
8"A POWERFUL ONE !!
1hpWITH A STAND !!!
I went to my 2nd favorite used tool place today (wed) after looking at this weeks video on their website (a 1+ hour drive). In the background I spotted a distinctive square-ish shape. I figured that it was sitting on the table and was likely a 6" 1/4hp, but when I got there, I found that it was an 8" 1hp on a stand (I had to scrape paint off the label to check).
The asking price was $50. The owner told me that it made a noise when starting up, so we plugged it in to test it. While starting up it makes an awful wailing/howling/groaning (no real way to explain it) noise, then purrs like a kitten once up to speed. It takes 2 1/2 min to run down to a stop.
I explained that I'd have to tear it down and clean/inspect/lube it (or more) to fix the noise, as well as make new shield inserts, re-wire the light, and deal with the horrendous brushed on paint job to get it running properly. I asked if he would take $40. He agreed. It went into my truck.
Details :
Mod# 397.19360 (same as the first post in this thread)
1hp
115/230 volts
6.0/3.4 amps
5/8" arbor
The lamp is broken, it'll need a rebuild. The paint is brushed on. Some idiot painted over the data label, so it can't be read. I spent 4 hours scraping, cleaning, and squinting with a magnifying glass and flashlight to read the faded imprint of the label to get the info. I may have missed a number on the s/n, but I got all the important data, so I should be good. Eventually, a new label will have to be made. The stand was originally a "diaper load" green. I won't be restoring that color
. The original color of the grinder was metallic grey with a metallic silver center panel. I may go that route, or I may get creative. IDK. It came with 2 new-ish wheels. A Norton 7", and for the box truck guys, a Snap-On 8". The re-build will have to wait, too many projects on my list. I can still use it for now, but until I have a chance to deal with that noise, I will try to keep it light duty.
Here are the pics :
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With all respect, my first time to say this, I hate you
Stand, 1hp, both guards, both tool rests, cast guards with dust chutes, water tray, AND to top it off you had to beat him down on price. 
You do truly **** sir. That is a very nice setup for $40. I hope one day I may be that lucky to find one of those. Enjoy it.
jakemac
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Aww shucks !
I may blush. My first I hate you, and a **** from 2 members that I really respect. Thank you.
I'm having a really great day.
HAPPY DANCE !
I may blush. My first I hate you, and a **** from 2 members that I really respect. Thank you.
I'm having a really great day.
HAPPY DANCE !
gearheadglen
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softailgarage
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Finally! Checked out craigslist today and 2 things I've been looking for are up, unfortunatly I can only afford one. 1. Craftsman roll away: guy wants way too much for it's condition, however this is a rare find for this area.http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/tls/4010424495.html
2. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/tls/4014166393.html
Can you guess which one I picked up? And less than 1/2 mile away too!
397.19400
I tried to get him down to $40.00 but he wasn't gonna budge. I'm still looking for one with the metal framed eye guard's, but this will do for now. Speaking of eye guard's, does anyone know of a way to clean them up, they're kinda foggy? As far as restoration, I promised nine4GMC I was gonna steal his paint scheme and I shall
However, I have 2 sold Craftsman saw's I need to finish first.
2. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/tls/4014166393.html
Can you guess which one I picked up? And less than 1/2 mile away too!
397.19400I tried to get him down to $40.00 but he wasn't gonna budge. I'm still looking for one with the metal framed eye guard's, but this will do for now. Speaking of eye guard's, does anyone know of a way to clean them up, they're kinda foggy? As far as restoration, I promised nine4GMC I was gonna steal his paint scheme and I shall
However, I have 2 sold Craftsman saw's I need to finish first.jakemac
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Are they glass or plastic ?
If plastic, try toothpaste (a mild abrasive) and elbow grease. Set yourself up in front of the TV and have at it until they're clear while you watch your favorite shows. Depending on how bad they are, you may not get them all the way clean, but they should be useable.
softailgarage
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jakemac
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Thanks Torque !
30 hours later, and I'm still giddy.
30 hours later, and I'm still giddy.
torqueman2002
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Thanks Torque !
30 hours later, and I'm still giddy.
That is one good score, and you get to fix it too. "... starting up it makes an awful wailing/howling/groaning...noise..."
I am not sure, but I think it might be the start winding is not powering-up. Try giving it a spin with your hand as it starts. If that helps it might be the start cap is open, or start relay /centrifugal switch points are not making up.
I've found the guys very helpful and knowledgeable over at www.OWWM.com Everything Electrical. They will know for sure.
Also, look for my post on cleaning and testing a start-relay on that site; and pics. of a centrifugal switch, in a post above.
Replacement parts are sometimes available at http://www.ereplacementparts.com/.
Keep us posted and good luck.
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torqueman2002
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Here's one on another site (OWWM).
http://owwm.org/viewtopic.php?p=899544#p899544
I remember a thread where the poster made a replacement like this.
Sheet steel was used. He started first by making two plywood 'clamps' with corresponding holes for the arbor shaft. The steel was inserted between the plywood 'clamps' and secured.
The assembly was placed in a floor press and a domed die (top to an acetylene tank) was pressed into the metal until the desired bulge was achieved.
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torqueman2002
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Here's a nice little 1/3 H.P. Block motor grinder in SE Michigan. $25
http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/tls/4019468193.html
http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/tls/4019468193.html
jakemac
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Anyone in the Hartford, CT area who is interested in a 1/2hp block may be interested in seeing if this is still available for $60 or BO. (not mine)
http://hartford.craigslist.org/tls/3994812697.html
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http://hartford.craigslist.org/tls/3994812697.html
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GirchyGirchy
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Trash them. Even when polished they'll likely disintegrate - mine were crumbly as hell. I'd prefer something which might provide some protection!
Here's what I just came up with and am pleased with how it looks. I bought a set of these from Grainger and some of these brackets from McMaster, opened up the holes on the long side for a 1/4" bolt to pass through, and here's how it turned out. Not perfect but I think it looks fine and should hold up.
Plus, with the steel hardware, I can easily make new ones in the future by cutting some PC to a desired size and drilling a couple of holes.
_DSC1805 by GirchyGirchy, on Flickr
_DSC1807 by GirchyGirchy, on Flickr
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GirchyGirchy
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Yeah, that's the one I was trying to find, but just can't come up with it.
torqueman2002
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torqueman2002
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I wonder if it was purged, during the great exodus to the dark side.
toolmaven
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This is my old Craftsman. 1/4 HP, 6" wheels, from 1954, I believe. It was my grandfathers. it is all cast iron & steel, with laminated safety glass shields, not plastic. It is very stout and seems to out power so-called 1/2 HP grinders made recently. It is on a stand from a much bigger industrial grinder, and that is on a dolly so I can move it. I may have missed them, but I haven't seen others looking quite as vintage.
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jakemac
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Your grandfather took good care of that grinder. I looks great !
Well, it turned out not to be the coveted 3/4 hp, but it is a commercial 1/2; silky smooth w/no vibration. And when you turn it off, it spins the larger stones forever. WooHoo! And did I mention the estate sale price? $25!!!
I was working that day but I have a friend in our church that forwards all the estate sale emails; I asked her if she was going so she was and picked it up for me. The guy selling tried to talk her out of buying it; he said she should come to the next one where they had an almost new one for only $5 more. Fortunately she didn't bite and made the purchase--this thing is awesome! I just got it today when she brought it into church.
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toolmaven
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Jakemac, thanks for the compliment. He took care of all his tools really well. The grinder has not been refinished. The base, I got when working in a scrap yard. I wore out a twisted cup brush removing the rust, and gave it a coat of grey industrial enamel over Rustoleum red. I put a sheet metal panel where the push button switches once were, and cut a 1/4 thick steel top. I drilled & tapped two holes for the 'lil Craftsman's mounting bolts.
I don't know where I should post the picture, but I also have his Bilious green 1940's or earlier tool chest. He did signs, and he repainted it in the most garish left over color. No name on the chest - round knobs & very heavy steel. I still have the can of matching paint, too.
I don't know where I should post the picture, but I also have his Bilious green 1940's or earlier tool chest. He did signs, and he repainted it in the most garish left over color. No name on the chest - round knobs & very heavy steel. I still have the can of matching paint, too.
ritzblitz
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I got this block grinder for free today. It is a commercial one, and is it a crown top? What does crown top even mean? And what does commercial mean as far as differences?
Overall it is decent, takes a year to spool down since there is no brake, and overall the quality is not near my Rockwell or Stanley grinders. But it was free from an old lady down the road. I'd like to sell it and give her most of the money.
Overall it is decent, takes a year to spool down since there is no brake, and overall the quality is not near my Rockwell or Stanley grinders. But it was free from an old lady down the road. I'd like to sell it and give her most of the money.
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rickhigginshtbr
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jakemac
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I got this block grinder for free today. You ****It is a commercial one, and is it a crown top? What does crown top even mean? The outline of the logo looks like Bart Simpson's head
And what does commercial mean as far as differences? Don't know
Overall it is decent, takes a year to spool down since there is no brake, and overall the quality is not near my Rockwell or Stanley grinders GASP! Shut your mouth!
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Could anyone recommend replacement bearings for these units? I'm going to restore an 8" 3/4 HP and could use the advice, including how difficult it is to replace the bearings.
I've heard of SKF but am unsure who else is out there or where to buy online, what sort of bearing to get, to avoid, etc. Thanks!
I've heard of SKF but am unsure who else is out there or where to buy online, what sort of bearing to get, to avoid, etc. Thanks!
montanafordman
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I was able to order a spare set of bearings for my 6" block grinder from sears. Most of the parts are no longer available but some, like bearings are.
torqueman2002
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I've had good luck taking the old bearings into a local supplier who measures and cross references the bearings. I've done this a handful of times on 1/4, 1/3, 1/2, and 1 H.P.; but not 3/4.
For details, follow this link to my current rebuild of a 1 H.P. Block motor grinder.
http://tinyurl.com/Go-Blue-Block-Grinder
I have had success with some replacement parts for CM grinders through the following link, slow (20 days) compared to Amazon, but they have parts listed as not available on Sears parts website. http://www.ereplacementparts.com/