The VISES of Garage Journal

cclfn · Sep 6, 2013

KMScott said:
Wes
Great vise find. Of course I would love to see the jaw faces. As for the lathe purchase, kudos to you, in this forum you can get all the help you need on how to set up and run your lathe. Wish i knew you bought a lathe before mailing your Prentiss # 20 pin, I would have added a few lathe bits. Share you lathe pictures.

Kevin

I will post detailed pictures after I get it home tomorrow. :thumbup:

As far as the Lathe tools go you probably don't have any small enough. This is one of those little hobby things a Craftsman/Atlas 101 6"X18" I will try to post something outside the vise thread.

Wes

ShadowRuleZ · Sep 6, 2013

Found this today at a garage sale. nine4gmc agreed PVCo NY is Prentiss Vise Company.

va.grouseman · Sep 6, 2013

I need to summons the Guru's. There is a Parker swivel jaw on E-bay right now. Can someone tell me if it has a slide within a slide, and why the main slide is half the length of the screw? Never seen one with that configuration. Thanks.

Filson · Sep 6, 2013

va.grouseman said:
I need to summons the Guru's. There is a Parker swivel jaw on E-bay right now. Can someone tell me if it has a slide within a slide, and why the main slide is half the length of the screw? Never seen one with that configuration. Thanks.

Link would help

oldldh · Sep 6, 2013

Brother Grouseman---I'm not a GURU, or a Gurette, more like a gurette bud, but, if what you are refering to is the pictured vise...

What you are looking at is the squared off end of the swiveling/Static jaw...

I've been watching that wee beastie for a while, but his price is way out of line...

Would be a really nice vise, when restored, but not $ 425.00 + freight nice...

wrenchguy · Sep 6, 2013

thats not it, the one he's asking about either has a cut off slide or a too long replaced lead screw. only guess'in though. i'd try and find it in the ad data base and see how far it opens then message the the guy and ask him. good luck.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Par...976?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac92948f8

also looks like some weld hot spots on the slide where the flat stock is hanging out.

autopts · Sep 6, 2013

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Par...976?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac92948f8

I think the last few inches of the slide was cut off. I'm guessing one end was missing so they evened it out. That extension was something Parker uses to strengthen their steel slide.

va.grouseman · Sep 6, 2013

wrenchguy said:
thats not it, the one he's asking about either has a cut off slide or a too long replaced lead screw. only guess'in though. i'd try and find it in the ad data base and see how far it opens then message the the guy and ask him. good luck.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Par...976?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac92948f8

also looks like some weld hot spots on the slide where the flat stock is hanging out.

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Yea, that's the one Wrenchguy, but I don't think it will do any good to ask the seller. They said in the description they weren't experts and to go by the pictures. It's a new one me. If it's original, I'd like to know what the little slide does.

va.grouseman · Sep 6, 2013

Originally posted by Autopts.
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So Autopts you think a couple of inches are missing on the slide? That sounds about right. But how does that bar reinforce? Iv'e never seen that before. I'd like to see one of those ad posters on that thing.

oldldh · Sep 6, 2013

Autopts qualifies as a GURU...

bl00 · Sep 6, 2013

va.grouseman said:
Originally posted by Autopts.
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But how does that bar reinforce? Iv'e never seen that before. I'd like to see one of those ad posters on that thing.

Here you go:

va.grouseman · Sep 7, 2013

Yep Oldidh, we have walking encyclopedias here with the Journal. Autopts and B100 are top tier Gurus. Thanks gentlemen, I sure learned something here tonight. I'd never seen that bar on a parker before. I knew it wouldn't take long to get some answers. Ask and ye shall receive. Mr. B100, you must have a chart on every vise ever made.

yhprum · Sep 7, 2013

Picked up this today, Its an old Australian made Joplin. All fabricated from steel. Very tight, no slop at all. 5 inch jaws.

Jarhead0408 · Sep 7, 2013

I know where one of those is for sale locally. The seller thinks it is homemade due to what looks like flat strap used for the top. I need to find his add again.

Filson · Sep 7, 2013

yhprum said:
Picked up this today, Its an old Australian made Joplin. All fabricated from steel. Very tight, no slop at all. 5 inch jaws.

That's pretty cool! Thanks for sharing!

Mark in Indiana · Sep 7, 2013

yhprum said:
Picked up this today, Its an old Australian made Joplin. All fabricated from steel. Very tight, no slop at all. 5 inch jaws.

Your vise is very interesting. Thanks for sharing. You peaked my interest so I checked out ebay au and found a lot of interesting vintage vises (Perth, Dawn, Carter, etc). I also saw a 4" cross drill press vise that reminded me of my Enco drill vise without the cross feature. Unfortunately, Shipping would be a deal killer for me.

ShadowRuleZ · Sep 7, 2013

What do you guys think of an older 4" Wilton No 4 bullet for $100? Looks to be all there with the swivel base.

balane · Sep 7, 2013

Without a photo hard to say but $100 for any decent Wilton with a swivel base is a nice price in my book.

ShadowRuleZ · Sep 7, 2013

balane said:
Without a photo hard to say but $100 for any decent Wilton with a swivel base is a nice price in my book.

Here's the picture I got. I think some of the ledge under the jaws is broken off?

rycam · Sep 7, 2013

I found an NOS Record 5VSB for $170. What do you guys think, good value, or let it continue collecting dust?

wrenchguy · Sep 7, 2013

Re: Repaired Rock Island 577 6" vise.

Rock Island 577 brazed and low cost. I can't turn down big repaired ones under $25.00. thanks 4 look'in.

wrenchguy · Sep 7, 2013

Re: Morgan 80, 8" vise.

Morgan Milwaukee 8", no.80. Nice 1 from chicago c list. thanks 4 looking.

wrenchguy · Sep 7, 2013

Re: Ridgid 80SN 8" & Morgan 80 8" vise.

Visual difference between a ridgid 8" & morgan 8". Ridgid is bigger but i think the morgan is heavier. Lead screw on morgan is 1 1/4" dia. and ridgid is 1 1/2" diameter. I got 'em apart to cleanup and paint. Is it ok to clean up the casting parting line better than factory? Actually i want to polish the castings. thanks 4 looking.

wrenchguy · Sep 7, 2013

Rearker 25 X

Parker 25x, 5 5/8" w/ nice jaws. NEED lead screw, nut and swivel base 4 this vise. Lead screw should be about 24" total length by 1" diameter. Another 1 under $25.00, couldn't pass it up. thanks 4 looking.

Mark in Indiana · Sep 7, 2013

Re: Parker 25 X

wrenchguy said:
Parker 25x, 5 7/8" w/ nice jaws. NEED lead screw, nut and swivel base 4 this vise. Lead screw should be about 24" total length by 1" diameter. Another 1 under $25.00, couldn't pass it up. thanks 4 looking.

Great find! Thanks for rescuing it.

balane · Sep 7, 2013

Columbian D45-M4 home-use quality Swivel Mount Vise. 5" Jaws, opens to 7" A lot of degreasing needed to start with this one but the metal is in fabulous shape as you can see.

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Chuck122 · Sep 7, 2013

It seems to me that the beer can is now the standard for vise visualization.

nine4gmc · Sep 7, 2013

Picked up my first Bullet today, a 5", looks to have been welded on. He was asking $70, I offered $50 thinking he would meet in the middle but he accepted. :willy_nil

Dated 4-46

wrenchguy · Sep 7, 2013

Chuck122 said:
It seems to me that the beer can is now the standard for vise visualization.

Sometimes i gotta put in the bottle when its windy, as u will note.

va.grouseman · Sep 7, 2013

Originally posted by Wrenchman

Visual difference between a Ridgid 8" & Morgan 8". Ridgid is bigger but I think the Morgan is heavier.
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Beautiful specimens Wrenchguy. Any 8 inch grabs my attention. The Morgan weighs 210 lbs., whereas the Ridgid weighs about 180 lbs.. The Ridgid is a rebranded Columbian #608. The difference is how there cast. If you flip a 608 or a Rigid 8 inch upside down you see just how hollow the towers are, verses the Morgan 80, which is smaller but cast with much heaver/thicker tower walls. That little old woman in the commercials would look into a 608 or Ridgid 8'' and say where's the beef. Never the less, I use a Columbian 608 every day, and I love the thing. But I'd a whole lot rather it be Ridgid 8''. Now don't that sound stupid. But it's the truth.

wrenchguy · Sep 7, 2013

va.grouseman said:
"Any 8 inch grabs my attention. The Morgan weighs 210 lbs., whereas the Ridgid weighs about 180 lbs.. The Ridgid is a rebranded Columbian #608. The difference is how there cast. If you flip a 608 or a Rigid 8 inch upside down you see just how hollow the towers are, verses the Morgan 80, which is smaller but cast with much heaver/thicker tower walls. That little old woman in the commercials would look into a 608 or Ridgid 8'' and say where's the beef."

Thanks, what you note above is why i mentioned the weight differences. I didn't really know how to describe it and knew someone would chime in.
thanks again.

Flatland Dave · Sep 7, 2013

rycam said:
I found an NOS Record 5VSB for $170. What do you guys think, good value, or let it continue collecting dust?

I'd buy it....Wish it had a swivel base. but worth the $ IMHO

Chuck122 · Sep 7, 2013

Flatland Dave said:
I'd buy it....Wish it had a swivel base. but worth the $ IMHO

In a heartbeat

cclfn · Sep 7, 2013

nine4gmc said:
Picked up my first Bullet today, a 5", looks to have been welded on. He was asking $70, I offered $50 thinking he would meet in the middle but he accepted.

Dated 4-46

Well it's definitely the right color for $50 but I am pretty sure that is still a "you ****!" Even if it does need some TLC :beer:

Wes

cclfn · Sep 7, 2013

Flatland Dave said:
I'd buy it....Wish it had a swivel base. but worth the $ IMHO

I would buy it and whats next to it. If thats another one I might buy it too.

Maybe you could sell one to us. I have one that has be welded up but I think they are good vises.

Wes

Hot Chop shop · Sep 7, 2013

The hunt for my massive Wilton bullet continues.... (((I have should have just purchased one on Ebay instead of spending $$$ on several)))
so here's the new Wilton that I got on Craigslist....

If you notice on the vise it is missing the the numbers on the tape measure strips, its cause when i used simple green to clean the Vise it stripped the paint... that was disappointing but such is life...

then i found this Wilton Bullet the other day and was sooooooo excited... I was at work and had a buddy pick it up for me the pics on Craigslist looked great... after I got it and took a closer look I decided to play a game I call take a shot every time I find a weld on the vise... before I passed out I counted 15 spots..... Okay maybe not but a few spot on the swivel base and unfortunately on the spindle thingy but for a Vise I think is from the 40's it super smooth and still cool to have a piece of history in the garage.

think the date of the 5year warrenty says 1946? so that means it was made in 1941? but not sure to be honest...

then I hit it with a wire brush... bare metal is sooo pretty

The welds.... :scared:

paint time

Hard to tell the color it's the metallic rustoleum color

The collection grows...

Filson · Sep 7, 2013

I thought I'd share my first Wilton Bullet! I got it for $5, only to rescue it from the owner and let it Rest In Peace. I seen it holding up the "please save me sign!" with a tear. Remember friends, don't turn a back to injustice - adopt a pet that's in need. :angel:

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BJ42LX · Sep 7, 2013

Filson said:
I thought I'd share my first Wilton Bullet! I got it for $5, only to rescue it from the owner and let it Rest In Peace. I seen it holding up the "please save me sign!" with a tear. Remember friends, don't turn a back to injustice - adopt a pet that's in need.

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You know, I'd restore it broken jaw and all - leave the broken jaw in raw steel. Mount it somewhere as a conversation piece.

Filson · Sep 7, 2013

BJ42LX said:
You know, I'd restore it broken jaw and all - leave the broken jaw in raw steel. Mount it somewhere as a conversation piece.

Already got hit up for parts off it lol. I don't know @#$% about Wiltons - any idea what model this is?

oldldh · Sep 7, 2013

That is a parts donation Wilton, if I ever saw one...

Somewhere there's a Wilton that needs a widget, and you've got one...

Get them together!!!

It's your duty, Bubba...

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