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mygarageone

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I am really wanting an epoxy floor , looking at all the garages that have them have really spurred my desire But.

I wonder what they look like after 3 - 5 yrs of use ? Dropping tools , engine parts , equipment rolling over them. You know good hard use.

SO. MY QUESTION IS , does any one have pic' s of a floor 3- 5 yrs old
that's been well used ?
That certainly would help me decide .
 
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Jack Olsen

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The durability of epoxy has everything to do with the particular concrete you put it on, and there are a lot of factors involved in what the condition and characteristics of that are -- all of which are hard to know with any certainty.

I'm in the over-five-years club, But I don't have epoxy. I've got ceramic tile. .59/sf.

500 lb engine rolling on a floor jack:

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Cleans up nice:

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For comparison, that's inexpensive epoxy on the apron part around the grate. But it's exposed to the sun and rain.

Many epoxy installs look great for years.
 

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13 years in this location. This was move out day - no I didn't sweep or mop it, that was up to the new owners. The block spots are rubber from drag slicks that could be removed with kerosene or some such. There is a white halo in the center that was overspray from painting my Falcon. Covered the floor with plastic and it still got everywhere. Other than that, a good scrub and dry and it's in pretty good shape.
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The new shop is 2 years old. The places were I got the mix too thin - near the overhead and man door - show some wear but the rest looks decent if I was inclined to mop, etc. The work room is in constant use (12x24) and there are two engines, all the tools and the parts washer. A new blasting cabinet in being assembled in there right now. You can see some of the floor here:

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Prep and proper application is the key.
 

ezzzzzzz

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Mine is less than 2 years old on new diamond ground concrete. Grey/fleck/clear coating. It yellows in areas of high sunlight exposure (outer edge in front of doors). It also scratches (dragging something across it), chips (dropped tools/ heavy items), burns (welding), dissolves when exposed to some chemicals (PVC primer for example), etc. I still like mine and would do it again.
 

Falcon67

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More info thanks to prompts in the post from ez. I used an industrial coating on the new shop. It's not a 100% epoxy product. Lots of sun exposure in the south facing overhead door, no fading. I did not use a top coat/clear. I can marginally soften the coating some with a stout chemical, like Berrymans.

The old shop used 100% epoxy and no top coat. I don't really care for a top coat on a floor that gets used. You could mop that floor with any chemical and it would not lift. I used stripper to try and remove the white auto paint overspray and it didn't hurt the floor at all. I got over having the overspray - working 480 sq/ft stripping overspray one sq/ft at a time got old real fast. There were a few marks from welding, nothing much you could tell IMHO.

The only change I'd make in the new shop would have been to buy 6 units of KM-15 instead of 3.
 
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mygarageone

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So no one that has had this type of floor for any length of time is willing to comment ?
With out some long term reviews. , I will hold off . I hate doing anything twice and I understand hard use but the cost of the time to redo a floor like this is a major concern.
 
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A_Pmech

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SO. MY QUESTION IS , does any one have pic' s of a floor 3- 5 yrs old
that's been well used ?
That certainly would help me decide .

The floor in my machine shop is going on 10 years old with daily use. I'm still very much satisfied with it. It's nothing fancy, just the "professional" Rust-Oleum epoxy.

If I remember, I'll take some photos today.
 

A_Pmech

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OK, here are a few photos for you...

The floor is Rust-Oleum's "professional" mineral-base epoxy coating. By all accounts, a "cheap" epoxy floor. It's around ten years old +-. Preparation consisted of etching with muriatic acid followed by applying two coats at the recommended re-coat interval with a 1/2" nap roller.

First, a few "clean" photos from late 2011, a month or two after I scrubbed the floor:

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Now for some "dirty" photos. I usually scrub the floor with the floor scrubber as part of spring cleaning. I sweep every day and mop once a week. These photos are before mopping at the end of this week. To show what the floor looks like after scrubbing, I scrubbed test patches with the corner of a green scrubbing pad using Super Clean.

First, the "dreaded welding spatter" that everybody is afraid of. This is in front of my welding table. I take no precautions to protect the floor. The majority of it comes up with a few strokes of scrubbing. The floor scrubber will take it all up:

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Next, the general shop floor and some paint overspray. The pock marks you see in the floor are mostly from drops falling off my horizontal band saw. When I remember, I usually place a 30" square piece of 3/8" plywood under the saw to cushion large drops. In most cases the epoxy doesn't chip unless the underlying concrete breaks.

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Finally, in front of my lathe, the only part of the floor which has begun to wear through due to grinding chips into the floor. I usually stand in one spot and it shows:

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A photo of what causes the damage and what it looks like after scrubbing:

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mjozefow

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I've seen John's floor many times and it has made a believer out of me. Epoxy it and forget about keeping it perfect. It will repel stains and brighten the shop, which is the intended purpose.
 

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I don't have photos but mine is 7 years old and is showing the wear, just in the last year. Mostly by the door where vehicles are turning slightly to cram them in a too small garage. My neighbors is about 9 years old and about the same. Both were cleaned and etched prior to epoxy. If I was to stay here much longer I would go over it after a good cleaning.
 
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