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Hey Sean,

No, certainly not. It's been a very full summer so I haven't had the chance to plan. Hopefully this month for at least a small one. I was watching your trip on IG and it looked like a blast. Glad you were able to make good on the self employed lure of taking off when you want to.

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What an awesome thread, Gregor. I keep coming back to it and re-reading parts just to savor the artistry and craftsmanship on display.

On a side note, are you still using the RX1 for your round-the-house pictures? I've started looking on CL for one after seeing your recommendation from a couple of years ago; but thought maybe it would be good to double check for any updated recommendation from the master. ;)
 
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What an awesome thread, Gregor. I keep coming back to it and re-reading parts just to savor the artistry and craftsmanship on display.

On a side note, are you still using the RX1 for your round-the-house pictures? I've started looking on CL for one after seeing your recommendation from a couple of years ago; but thought maybe it would be good to double check for any updated recommendation from the master. ;)

Ha. I can't keep up with the ever changing model intros but I'm still using my RX1 and I still love it. My brother bought one and has decided to sell it because it wasn't fast enough to capture his very fast family so it's not an "action" camera but it's still pretty amazing. The other option is the new Sony RX100 IV which should be great. I've suggested the model III to a few people who've loved it's super fast lens. Sony is kicking *** again and that's nice to see for those of us who remember the tiny Walkmans.

I just learned of this company on a friends IG feed. http://www.mavamespresso.com/undercounter/

I love the minimalist appearance of it but it could use a little design love (IMO) to replace the sheet metal group with something a bit more organic

Wow, that's brilliant! Yes, some nicely cast or machined aluminum would go a long way but the idea is fantastic. With a built in steamer rinser no less.

Gregor
 

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Wow, that's brilliant! Yes, some nicely cast or machined aluminum would go a long way but the idea is fantastic. With a built in steamer rinser no less.

Coincidentally Mavam was in Portland doing an open house & offering one-on-one time with that machine yesterday. I checked it out with a client who is probably installing one. Its a really well thought-out machine, shouldn't be a problem to service & maintain. Most of what you see above the counter is easy to customize.

They also had a portafilter with a Cree LED integrated in the handle to illuminate the pour. Terry Z (formerly of Espresso Parts NW, now of Mavam) said he went through a box of LEDs before settling on a color temp (4200 K). Naturally I thought of Gregor.
 
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Coincidentally Mavam was in Portland doing an open house & offering one-on-one time with that machine yesterday. I checked it out with a client who is probably installing one.

Of course you were there! There is nothing coffee in this town that escapes your notice - which is so freaking cool. You must be part of the coffee illuminati!

In other news I'm going on a ride (sufferfest?) with Sean (Vertigo Cycles) tomorrow morning and I'm going to get to ride one of his bikes. Very exciting. Both for the escape and the chance to ride one of his bikes. I'll report back.

Gregor
 

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Of course you were there! There is nothing coffee in this town that escapes your notice - which is so freaking cool. You must be part of the coffee illuminati!

In other news I'm going on a ride (sufferfest?) with Sean (Vertigo Cycles) tomorrow morning and I'm going to get to ride one of his bikes. Very exciting. Both for the escape and the chance to ride one of his bikes. I'll report back.

Gregor
I hope it's not a sufferfest, but if that's what you want, I'll bring a road bike for you :D

You'll be on the fat bike, because it's literally the most fun bike I've ever owned and the 29er is on loan. This will be my first ride on a 27.5+ demo bike that I built before my trip. I'd put you on that, but the brakes haven't been bedded in yet and I don't want to be responsible for you shooting off a cliff and subsequently depriving all these nice people on GJ from seeing you finish your house.
 
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Okay, I realize the house has stalled but frankly I've been really burned out on it. I made a lot of progress before the family got here but it was mostly cleaning up and buying some Ikea stuff to flesh out the kids room. Since getting the house my "fun" time has tanked. I'm not bitter about it as I love the house and really enjoy working on it but I need balance and that means time to just play.

Today was one of those days.

Perhaps the most fun day I've ever had on a bicycle - which is saying a lot. I've known Sean since shortly after I moved here but we've never been able to align our schedules to get out for a ride. Sean suggested getting out this week and I blocked out the day and this morning he showed up at the house with two of his bikes.

Dreams do come true.

I dig bicycles like I dig motorcycles - as the distilled essence of two wheeled transportation. One with a motor and one without. Also, I've vowed to get back in shape and they're great for that. They're also beautiful objects in their own right. Anyway, I'd planned on riding my old Cannondale but once I saw the two titanium lovelies on the rack I shelved that idea.

We headed out to Browns Camp, a place I've ridden both on moto and on MTB's and so it was a good place to get to know the bikes. Sean started me on the "fat bike" which I've seen develop into a thing but frankly haven't understood as they just seem so ponderous and heavy. The Vertigo fat bike is not fat, at all. It's about 25lbs but feels even lighter. I'd guessed it was maybe 19 or 20 it felt so light. Have you ever picked up a bicycle thinking it would be heavy and almost toss it into the air? That was the fat bike.

One thing I really didn't want to miss was the chance to bring a camera and get a couple of shots. The bikes are so beautiful I literally couldn't stop looking at them every time we stopped.

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This bike had more grip than any bicycle I've ever experienced. Sections I've had to walk for lack of skill this bike floated up. It was a real revelation and a very light, fast and nimble bike. If you've never ridden a fat bike you should try it - it is way different than you might expect. After two hours of climbing and descending I was pretty convinced this would be my next bike.

But I wanted to ride the other bike Sean brought: a 27.5+ bike with Shimano electronic shifting. In the time I bought the house and sold my last mountain bike the world moved on from 26" tires and 29" and 650B (27.5") became dominate. This is a new size, essentially a 27.5 but with a very wide 3+" tire that splits the difference from a fat bikes monster rubber and the narrower 2+" traditional tires.

Within the first 10 feet of riding this bike I knew I had to have one. I have never, in my life, experienced a bicycle like this before. It was fast and light, sure, but the handling was the quickest I've ever experienced but never nervous. All I had to do was think and the bike went there. I again road stuff I've walked and was just amazed, riding with my jaw open for the next two hours. I think the best way to describe the bike was what I told Sean at the end of a super fast, narrow, twisty descent; this was the most fun bicycle I've ever ridden and it made me want to ride it every day all day until my legs collapsed. Seriously, it wasn't just a little better, it was worlds better.

Here's a photo of my next bike:

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Alright, mine probably won't have the electronic shifting but otherwise I'm sold on the wheel size and the rest of the bike. It was sublime and the glow I'm feeling is only partly the burn in my legs!

Sean, thanks so much for the opportunity to ride such an amazing pair of bicycles. I'm looking forward to working with you to build one sometime this next year.

Gregor
 

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Can't wait to see you start titanium fab. Sean's custom purge blocks and tooling look really cool.
 

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Beautiful bike. Pays homage to Jones' bike design.

It's fair to say that about the fork, which itself could be seen a derivative of the Cheltenham Pederson forks built in the 70's.

I can see why it might be inferred about the frame, but my design cues come from some fairly obscure east coast builders in the 80's and 90's coupled with my own experience racing and being a high level trials competitor. Companies like Grove, EWR, Nevil and Smorgasbord influenced me and I wasn't aware of Jones when I started building in 2006. Our frames are low slung and titanium, the similarities end there. Our design philosophy is entirely different.
 
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Beautiful bike. Pays homage to Jones' bike design.

I am going to be shooting a lot more of Sean's bikes and work in the coming months and we're going to get his site updated to reflect the brilliance therein but in the mean time Sean has those two bikes to demo - if you're within any reasonable (or unreasonable) distance you should get in touch and ride one.

Or wait until I get mine :D

When we finally get around to building my bike I will thoroughly document it.

BigJoe - thanks, I'm going to relay that to my wife just so she's clear who's wearing the pants!

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Hey Gregor,
Two nice bikes - I can certainly see the attraction.

But before you jump, do yourself a favour and tryout some of the new dual suspension bikes. The fat-tire thing is certainly something different and Seans bikes look super trick but I wouldn't commit until you have tried a dually.

I suppose it comes down to the terrain you will be riding? Can't wait to see what you end up with...

Cheers from downunder...
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Hey Gregor,
Two nice bikes - I can certainly see the attraction.

But before you jump, do yourself a favour and tryout some of the new dual suspension bikes. The fat-tire thing is certainly something different and Seans bikes look super trick but I wouldn't commit until you have tried a dually.

My brother said the same thing. My response was to look at my garage. Filled with older motorcycles that I've built by hand to be completely unique for me. I get that a BMW S1000RR is the ultimate performance bike but it has little appeal to me unless I was racing - which I'm not anymore.

For similar money I could buy a bike made by an underpaid Chinese factory worker that would no doubt work well and be exactly like the thousand other bikes that factory churns out. Or I could buy a bike from someone who thinks about details like I do, rides bicycles like I do and buys groceries in the same country I do. It would be a bike that is custom fit to me too.

And, for what it's worth I'm riding a Cannondale Rush Team right now and my last bike was an Ibis Mojo SL - not **** bikes. As I approach 50 this year my interest is less about hucking huge jumps but more about enjoying a long single track romp. Despite that I have to say I was impressed by Sean's hardtail having been a fan of the 4-6" travel bike. It didn't give up anything.

As is probably obvious from the thread I appreciate things that are well thought out, well made and unique. Vertigo ticks those boxes neatly.

Gregor
 
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It's fair to say that about the fork, which itself could be seen a derivative of the Cheltenham Pederson forks built in the 70's.

I can see why it might be inferred about the frame, but my design cues come from some fairly obscure east coast builders in the 80's and 90's coupled with my own experience racing and being a high level trials competitor. Companies like Grove, EWR, Nevil and Smorgasbord influenced me and I wasn't aware of Jones when I started building in 2006. Our frames are low slung and titanium, the similarities end there. Our design philosophy is entirely different.


Mmmm. EWR.:thumbup:
 

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For similar money I could buy a bike made by an underpaid Chinese factory worker that would no doubt work well and be exactly like the thousand other bikes that factory churns out. Or I could buy a bike from someone who thinks about details like I do, rides bicycles like I do and buys groceries in the same country I do. It would be a bike that is custom fit to me too.

As is probably obvious from the thread I appreciate things that are well thought out, well made and unique. Vertigo ticks those boxes neatly.

Gregor

Well in that case I can't wait to see what you end up with. Enjoy...
 

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Truly wonderful craftsmanship! Your eye for detail is outstanding, the cedar tongue and groove came out amazing, and my OCD is very satisfied with what you have done. Oh, the tools are awesome too; Festool and a Miller Dynasty 200DX are on my wishlist
 

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From that review, the bike sounds seriously amazing. I've been putting off trying fat bikes because I don't want to fall in love with yet another type of bike, since all I have time and space for is road and the occasional shredding of gnar (26" wheels preferred), but you make an enticing case for it.
 

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From that review, the bike sounds seriously amazing. I've been putting off trying fat bikes because I don't want to fall in love with yet another type of bike, since all I have time and space for is road and the occasional shredding of gnar (26" wheels preferred), but you make an enticing case for it.

Normally I like to chime in to bust Gregors balls a little, but I know how buried he is these days with work that I'd like to take a moment to take over his thread, hopefully without getting SPAMmy in the process.

I've been riding mountain bikes since the late 80's and while I've been reticent to accept changes at times (OK, most of the time) I have to say that the fat bike has been a revelation for me. I wouldn't want to race it, but some people do. I'd say that it's slower, but my experience hasn't really proven that's true. I'm still faster than the people who were slower than me, and slower than the people who are faster (though I can ride stuff they can't ride; thank you traction.)

The thing is, it's fun and it makes easy work of things that are hard to ride. That might be a negative point depending on your motivational system. I can easily clean difficult sections of trails that were problematic with a normal bike. In a way it's very satisfying but in a way it's not. I didn't suddenly acquire more skill or fitness. A product quite literally made all the difference.

For someone who has the ability to buy a fat bike to just go out and have a blast (any fat bike really, but a Vertigo if you want the good stuff ;) do it, they're a hell of a lot of fun.
 

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This comment is worthless without pics.

Dave

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Gregor has already done a way better job at that than I ever could. Go back a page and see. Jon does an amazing job too and rides in some spectacular places. And although Ricky just dumped a ton of cyclocross photos, he's also got several hundred of himself (mostly in the air) on his Vertigo fatty.

I don't want to potentially spoil any secrets, but I do want to rib Gregor a bit.

So how about it Gregor! How's that motorbike build coming along? Wasn't that thing supposed to be done last weekend? :evil:
 
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I don't want to potentially spoil any secrets, but I do want to rib Gregor a bit.

So how about it Gregor! How's that motorbike build coming along? Wasn't that thing supposed to be done last weekend? :evil:

Ah, I've been shamed into updating this thread which seems to have lost all momentum this summer. Sorry. :(

I've had a very busy summer between work and family. If you've never visited Oregon... don't! No, kidding. Summers here are about as perfect as they come and the fall has been more so. My weekends have been spent with family and on rare occasion on a bike. My weeks, when I normally am able to work on the house, has been commandeered by photography which I won't complain about. There's an old freelancers saying that goes, "The only worse than no work... is work" but you can switch it around as you see fit.

One of the projects that I'm in the middle of wrapping up but can show you since they've already gone public with the shots is one for the Scrambler division of Ducati.

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Our riders for the shoot were a motley crew: Jamie Robinson of MotoGeo, Drake McElroy of X Games fame and Courtney Taylor Taylor of The Dandy Warhols. All super cool guys and the crew from Italy was even better. One of the more fun shoots I've had the chance to do. Keep an eye on ScramblerDucati's Instagram in the coming weeks as I have about a hundred selects to retouch and send off to them as soon as I can.

The other campaign I did was for Ducati NA and that is still under wraps but I'm pretty happy with how it turned out and I hope it gets approval. I will be sure to share that if and when it goes live as it was too cool to not share.

Finally, I've been helping a friend build a bike and develop product for his new company [URL="http://velomacchi.com/#index"]Velomacchi[/URL] which is getting ready to launch this spring with a roll out by Christmas. That has been taking up a huge amount of my time the past month and we were hoping to shoot a fun little video of the bike (an older Yamaha XT500) and do a video as well with Sean's 27.5+ bike for the cycling portion. Well, the XT wasn't done as there was a lot more to do than the time we had - shocker! In a few weeks that will get wrapped up and this whole Christmas rush (in my world Christmas is in September as everyone prepares to launch, publish or present then and needs photos NOW) and I'm hoping that we'll get into a nice calm winter and I can get back on track with the house.

Gregor
 

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Nice shots! Good that you have had time also with the family :)

I have to stop reading this thread, as it seems to make money disappear from within my wallet... ...that Velomacchi seems really nice !
 

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Gregor has already done a way better job at that than I ever could.

One of the projects that I'm in the middle of wrapping up but can show you since they've already gone public with the shots is one for the Scrambler division of Ducati.

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Gregor

Okay Sean- looks like Gregor saved you with some fresh pics... this time.
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Gregor, spectacular pics. Looks like you had a great summer with some well-deserved time off of the house... to work gigs. Thanks for keeping us all in the loop!
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Dave
 

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Laughing my *** off here... I saw the first Scrambler shot and immediately thought "That guy looks a lot like Jamie Robinson". I guess I've been watching a bit to much YouTube lately :D

Awesome shots again Gregor! I'll keep an eye on my Instagram feed.
 

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I thought that as well. I have watched a bunch of youtube stuff of him then in 2014 at Bonneville motorcycle speed trials he was pitted next to us with a Duc they were running. Guy is a nut and cool to hang out with. Love all your work and the attention to the smallest of details which is what puts your stuff above the crowd.

Rob
 

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I don't watch much motorcycle videos but I did watch the KTM one with Danny Macaskill and the Freeride E and instantly thought of this tread. ( I seriously watch anything with Danny in it even commercials he is my biking idol).

Brian
 

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Staying busy at work (your job is awesome too) makes it possible to do the fantastic job you've shared here so I know you can't update all the time. I'm always hoping to see more from your shop though. Thanks
 
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Staying busy at work (your job is awesome too) makes it possible to do the fantastic job you've shared here so I know you can't update all the time. I'm always hoping to see more from your shop though. Thanks

Yes, it's been a busy summer and I've had a lot of irons in the fire but I'd be lying if I were to say you were the only person wondering what happened to progress on the house. One of those people I'm living with...

One of the projects that I spent a little time working on was my Triumph. Neglected for years because I had no engine plates (the mounts for the rear of the engine) and no template for them. My mindset was not of a fabricator but an assembler and so I just quit working on it hoping to find some or get a drawing.

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Well, one day this summer I began to wonder why I didn't just make them. So I did. I started with measuring the engine mounts and then the frame mounts. I made a paper drawing using a compass to triangulate the holes. Then I made a cardboard one. Then I tested it out with some scrap plywood.

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Once those fit (pretty much the first try) I decided that instead or trying to make them on the mill I should try to learn SketchUp (it's something I do once a year) and so I tried to draw them.

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And then refined the drawing.

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About this time Ben told me that he'd gotten a 3D printer and I should send him the file. So I did.

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Amazingly they fit first try. Maybe .5mm or 20 thou out but on a British bike that's probably way to good - I should move them to keep the theme. Anyway, that's about where I left it. I need to add some fillets to the drawing and I ran out of skill there so Ben's going to teach me that and then I'm going to have them cut from 3/8ths stainless which will be nice as it will keep them very minimal.

Lastly, and something that has taken almost all my spare time, is that it looks like I may become a partner in a company (Velomacchi) a friend is building. I've been helping him for a while but this would step up my involvement and commitment. To get ready for the launch we wanted to build a sort of scrambler Yamaha XT500 and so that bike has been on my lift for the past few months. I made an exhaust, headlight mounts, number plate and rear luggage/fuel rack along with a host of smaller details. A bead roller was a tool that was added to the arsenal this summer and I enjoyed finally getting to use it.

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We're not showing the bike until the launch of the new product but I can show a few details of the things I made which I am pretty happy with. My fab chops are coming along actually and I like the parts I made for this bike.

So that's a quick update. I will have some time after my next shoot to work on the house and since Thanksgiving is coming up I'm going to work my *** off to (try to) finish up the kitchen by then. House progress has stalled but the nice thing is that the garage, while very crowded, is pretty damn functional. That's a win in my book.

Gregor
 

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Wonderful to have an update! As usual, your photography and fabrication are top-notch.
Don't feel too badly about the house 'stalling' for a while; I think it is part of the process. I'm on year 4 of a tear-down-to-studs restore on my house, and just now starting to think that perhaps that someday I may live like a normal person. You are a few years less into your project and already much farther than I am! And doing it to a much higher quality as well. I think I speak for many here when I say don't sweat the time off from the house, but we are on the edge of our seats for your next house update! Or bike update. Or tool update. Really, with your quality, any update is a good one :)

Peace!

P.S. Though I doubt it will work, if your wife gets impatient with the house project, just tell her "hey, I know this guy on garagejournal who hasn't had a working stove or walls in his kitchen since 2011!!" Amazing what you can do with a hot plate and a toaster oven...
 
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