Poor Man's Retro Retreat -- in 440 square feet
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autoist
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Poor? With those 2 cars?
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dreamingmuscle
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Question about the sheds. I notice that they both slope and dump rain to the center. Now I know your smart enough to have solution to this water delima. Forgive me for being coruious but I got to know what it is.
Nice design btw.
Glen
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Nice design btw.
Glen
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OP
Thanks.
The section of roof between the two barrel arches slopes down from the rear to the front, so water spills onto it and then runs forward and to the ground. The mistake I made was only having a half an inch of overhang there. I've added more with a piece of black aluminum since then, but I might pull those shingles up and re-do it with at least three inches of overhang.
I'm also thinking about making some changes to the left-side section of the shed (the part with the taller barrel arch). This week, I got my welding cart put together with an argon bottle. I also picked up a big 241 CF cylinder of oxygen and a 135 CF cylinder of acetylene. I'm thinking I could add some shelves and hooks and that whole part of the shed could be dedicated to only welding gear.
But then that means I'm going to need to find more space somewhere else.
There's never enough storage.
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marty_p
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Great work and attention to detail, friend!
One question I've always wondered -- has the ceramic cracked under the pressure of vehicle weight ? ? ? I'm now considering that flooring option due in part to your pics!
-Marty
One question I've always wondered -- has the ceramic cracked under the pressure of vehicle weight ? ? ? I'm now considering that flooring option due in part to your pics!
-Marty
I wish I could build a shed to move all the lawn stuff out of the garage... HOA will not allow it 
. Sometimes I just think about doing it and wait until someone complains...
Back to your garage. Looks great!! And happy to have contributed an idea with the floor
It did looked familiar...
. Sometimes I just think about doing it and wait until someone complains...Back to your garage. Looks great!! And happy to have contributed an idea with the floor
It did looked familiar...
Thanks.
The section of roof between the two barrel arches slopes down from the rear to the front, so water spills onto it and then runs forward and to the ground. The mistake I made was only having a half an inch of overhang there. I've added more with a piece of black aluminum since then, but I might pull those shingles up and re-do it with at least three inches of overhang.
I'm also thinking about making some changes to the left-side section of the shed (the part with the taller barrel arch). This week, I got my welding cart put together with an argon bottle. I also picked up a big 241 CF cylinder of oxygen and a 135 CF cylinder of acetylene. I'm thinking I could add some shelves and hooks and that whole part of the shed could be dedicated to only welding gear.
But then that means I'm going to need to find more space somewhere else.
There's never enough storage.
autoist
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I would! Is your backyard fenced? Is there a private area behind the garage? Build it up against the garage & plant a couple of spruce to make a blind so nobody can see in from the street!wachuko said:
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It hasn't. And my slab was an uneven, 84-year-old mess. I've been told since I did the installation that porcelain tiles are even harder. Lowes sells them for under a buck a square foot, I think. But my ceramic has held up fine so far.
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Dan in Pasadena
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... Sweet car!! IF you have any more pics, feel free to post.
Asking Jack Olsen if he "has any more pics" of his car is like asking Bill Gates if he can spare a dime?
Excellent work Jack, as usual. Long time no talk; I hardly go to Pelican anymore. I have been threatening my 80 year old Pasadena garage floor with repair for a long time. I think you and I even discussed this once on Pelican. Nice to see you carried yours off. SUCH an excellent job. It has a warm, inviting feel to it.
My slab has a big crack that varies to over 1" and part of the slab has risen up over an inch. After considering renting a grinder, etc, I plan to sawcut a clean edge and demo out a wedge about 3'x3' and pour a repair after doweling into the adjacent slabs. Jack, is your old floor separate from a perimeter footing? Mine is one monolithic slab which is why I can't just demo the whole thing and replace it.
What brand of vinyl patch did you use? I had been thinking of vinyl tile laid in a black and white pattern, but in 4'x4' size instead of 1'x1' as that is too busy. Now, having seen yours in a mild color like that, I like it a lot. I might have to re-think the checkerboard pattern. Maybe that's just trite.
Kudos Jack, kudos.
Another picture of Jack's car. This one is BBI (Man, I LOVED that car, R.I.P.)
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Dan in Pasadena
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fsneeringer
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Hey Jack,
I was curious if you had tried jacking up the car on the tile, or if you think that the tile would crack? I'm considering putting down tile on the garage floor as I would imagine it would stand up much better to welding slag and grinding sparks than epoxy, but would be worried about jacking up a car on the finished surface.
The finish product looks great btw, you did a fine job on the install.
I was curious if you had tried jacking up the car on the tile, or if you think that the tile would crack? I'm considering putting down tile on the garage floor as I would imagine it would stand up much better to welding slag and grinding sparks than epoxy, but would be worried about jacking up a car on the finished surface.
The finish product looks great btw, you did a fine job on the install.
Porcelain tiles... that is the trick. That and a proper install (no air pockets).
Grind, welding, working the cars, dropping tools... and nothing. And if you get the porcelain tiles that have the same color throughout the tile, even if a tool chips the tile, the chip will not stand out.
I use my garage often to work in the cars and even after all the abuse the floor looks like the first day I did the install.
I initially had a mid-rise lift and now a two-post... not joking on the abuse to the floor... also, make sure to test the tile with water... last thing you want is a slippery floor. Be sure you get something that is not slippery if there is water on the floor.
GamblinAJ
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Jack everything is top notch. Makes me hate reality TV even more!
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48flatbed
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Jack,
First let me say GREAT JOB! I just read this thread and it is super. For those worried about tile cracking under loads let me relate my experience. I laid the tile (12 x 12 ceramic) in my house, it is a slab floor so it is similar to a garage floor. While laying the cut tiles next to my fireplace, one tile didn't fit right so I laid the rest on that row, hand nibbled that one to fit then laid it. The next day I tapped on all the tile listening for the solid sound. That one tile sounded hollow (thinset dried too much before it was laid). So I decided to take it up. I got my dead-blow hammer and hit it in the center, nothing, so I hauled off and really whacked it, still nothing (should have stopped here!!). Then I got my small sledge (2 pound) and whacked it. This resulted in a chip. So I stood up, both hands on the sledge and BOOM! This broke the tile. The center came out nicely but the edges that were stuck I had to chisel out (took 30 min). So I would not worry too much about a dropped tool. A dropped engine on the other hand...
Jon
First let me say GREAT JOB! I just read this thread and it is super. For those worried about tile cracking under loads let me relate my experience. I laid the tile (12 x 12 ceramic) in my house, it is a slab floor so it is similar to a garage floor. While laying the cut tiles next to my fireplace, one tile didn't fit right so I laid the rest on that row, hand nibbled that one to fit then laid it. The next day I tapped on all the tile listening for the solid sound. That one tile sounded hollow (thinset dried too much before it was laid). So I decided to take it up. I got my dead-blow hammer and hit it in the center, nothing, so I hauled off and really whacked it, still nothing (should have stopped here!!). Then I got my small sledge (2 pound) and whacked it. This resulted in a chip. So I stood up, both hands on the sledge and BOOM! This broke the tile. The center came out nicely but the edges that were stuck I had to chisel out (took 30 min). So I would not worry too much about a dropped tool. A dropped engine on the other hand...
Jon
73super
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I think I'd get rid of the drawing board and get a 2nd toy! Say a nice '50's hot rod to go along with that sweet Porsche!
Nice.. very nice.
Nice.. very nice.
chromeyellow
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Jack, some of the picture links are broken, can you repost? I'm finally moving into a house and have been thinking about your sheds.
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Sure. Here's a picture of the exterior and also an image with some of the building details.
The shed is about 4 1/2 feet deep, 6 feet tall at its highest point, and about 20 feet long. Each of the four sections is walled off and has its own shelving. There's a wooden floor running the length of it, but the wood itself never touches the concrete. I used spacers to hold it up about 3/8" above the driveway, which I figured would make it last longer.
The overhang section shows a trash can under it in the picture, but it's there as a place for bicycles or big wheels or whatever the boy might be inclined to park in my garage.
I've got no idea what that grooved plywood was designed for, but it made building something like this a lot simpler, without it ending up looking like just a plywood box.
The shed is about 4 1/2 feet deep, 6 feet tall at its highest point, and about 20 feet long. Each of the four sections is walled off and has its own shelving. There's a wooden floor running the length of it, but the wood itself never touches the concrete. I used spacers to hold it up about 3/8" above the driveway, which I figured would make it last longer.
The overhang section shows a trash can under it in the picture, but it's there as a place for bicycles or big wheels or whatever the boy might be inclined to park in my garage.
I've got no idea what that grooved plywood was designed for, but it made building something like this a lot simpler, without it ending up looking like just a plywood box.
chromeyellow
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thanks for reposting the pics and the detail shots, I appreciate it!
porschedude996TT
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Great Job Jack, you are a handy man of handy men. This is the first that I've seen you Porsche photos. It really brought back memories of m '72 911 (Black Lac) that I bought in 1986 and then fully restored bumper to bumper and everything in between. My favorite part of the car, and I don't know why, that I always look for is the oil door on the right rear fender. I was very sadened when I later saw the body damage in the later photos. I hope the car is repaired or on the mend by this point. Also, where did you find the right side rectangle mirror? Porsche never made those and I so wanted to have a right side mirror when I owned my '72. Was it from Wayne at PelicanParts.com?
Keith
Keith
Fidget
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Those are being manufactured aftermarket now. I've been considering getting one for my '72, but don't know if I can bring myself to drill the holes into the door! I don't remember who I saw has them, I've seen them a couple different places, and in advertisments in both Excellence, and Panorama
OP
Back in the day, there was a guy making so-so quality knockoffs of the 72-73 mirrors. I also heard about right-side rectangle models made by Porsche for RHD markets, but I've never seen one. More recently, there's a new manufacturer whom (I'm told) is making much better ones.
As it happens, the ones on my 72 are the 1974-5 models, which are like the 72-73, but slightly larger. I had the old knock-off on the right side and the original on the driver's side, but felt the mirrors were too small. I prefer the slightly larger ones, and they're more readily available. At least, I think they are.
Here's a source for the newere 72-73 ones:
http://www.tremotorsports.com/product.cfm?Node=10626
As it happens, the ones on my 72 are the 1974-5 models, which are like the 72-73, but slightly larger. I had the old knock-off on the right side and the original on the driver's side, but felt the mirrors were too small. I prefer the slightly larger ones, and they're more readily available. At least, I think they are.
Here's a source for the newere 72-73 ones:
http://www.tremotorsports.com/product.cfm?Node=10626
smsteve
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What an excellent garage with all kinds of neat tricks. I really like the folding benches, great idea.
Your Porsche is a real beauty too!
Your Porsche is a real beauty too!
GunMoto
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Wow, impressive Mr. Olsen...to say the least. I've always wanted to maximize the use of a 2-car garage and boy, I think you've taken it to the highest level yet! And your 911...DROOL!
I keep coming back to this thread for inspiration. Thanks again for sharing with us.
On another note, my father is up near Napa and got his feet wet with a 914. I think he wanted to try it on for size before getting into the more complex German builds.
On another note, my father is up near Napa and got his feet wet with a 914. I think he wanted to try it on for size before getting into the more complex German builds.
OP
Thanks.
I documented it in another thread, but I recently replaced one wall of shelving with a new bench (with a 510-pound top) and some wood and metal cabinets. I'll toss some of the pictures in here so that it's all in one place.
But it's not done.
I got a good enough deal on a piece of 2" Maple butcher-block recently that I've started to play with some ideas for a height-adjustable bench for where I now have the drafting table. The idea is to make it pneumatically adjustable. With work stuff, though, it's likely to be a while before I can actually start work on it.
I documented it in another thread, but I recently replaced one wall of shelving with a new bench (with a 510-pound top) and some wood and metal cabinets. I'll toss some of the pictures in here so that it's all in one place.
But it's not done.
I got a good enough deal on a piece of 2" Maple butcher-block recently that I've started to play with some ideas for a height-adjustable bench for where I now have the drafting table. The idea is to make it pneumatically adjustable. With work stuff, though, it's likely to be a while before I can actually start work on it.
WhatThaFrig
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Amazing garage and amazing craftmanship.
cyclopsblown34
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I can't pick a favorite element of your build Jack. The thing that sticks out most though is the cool little sheds with the curved roofs.
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The mirror was a $9 Ikea impulse buy -- I figured I'd find a place for it somewhere in the house.
But it's actually come in handy when I've gotten something in my eye. It's also good for seeing where you still have grease/dirt/whatever on your face/arms/whatever after you wash your hands.
OP
No, but you can see I went dark with the grout. My thinking was that dark brown would hide most sins. The tile itself is incredibly resilient. Even dried paint comes off with a fingernail (or a Scotch Brite pad, if it's really stubborn).
I've jacked up cars on it, dropped tools -- no issues yet from normal use.
However, two things have damaged it. One is weld spatter -- which burns tiny spots in the glazing. Now I set a welding tarp down under where I'm welding.
The other thing that did some damage (a couple of weeks ago) was the vise you see in some of the pictures above. It's 65 pounds, and it fell -- I hadn't bolted it to the table yet and I was flattening some 1/8" angle iron with the big hammer. The thing fell 37" down from the bench. It didn't crack the tile, but it chipped away the glazing on a corner of one.
The good news is it's pretty simple to pull out a single tile and replace it. At least, I assume it is. I'll report back after I've done it.
I've jacked up cars on it, dropped tools -- no issues yet from normal use.
However, two things have damaged it. One is weld spatter -- which burns tiny spots in the glazing. Now I set a welding tarp down under where I'm welding.
The other thing that did some damage (a couple of weeks ago) was the vise you see in some of the pictures above. It's 65 pounds, and it fell -- I hadn't bolted it to the table yet and I was flattening some 1/8" angle iron with the big hammer. The thing fell 37" down from the bench. It didn't crack the tile, but it chipped away the glazing on a corner of one.
The good news is it's pretty simple to pull out a single tile and replace it. At least, I assume it is. I'll report back after I've done it.
I wouldn't pull a single tile for a chip. Fill the chip with something that will harden. Any specific product eludes my mind at the moment. Otherwise, they add character and provide proof that you've actually used that tidy space for more than parking. (WE already know this)
Dan in Pasadena
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Hi Jack,
If you answered these question before, I apologize for asking again because I guess I missed the answers.
On the big metal cabinets you have like the one your vice is on and the one next to it, what were these painted with? I can't tell from the pictures, but is this latex brush & roller work and did you paint the insides? I have a couple similar short and tall cabinets that are mismatched and I want to correct that. I think mine are powder coated and the large one has minor ding and dents and light surface rust I want to fix. If you sprayed them, what did you use? Rustoleum or similar?
If you answered these question before, I apologize for asking again because I guess I missed the answers.
On the big metal cabinets you have like the one your vice is on and the one next to it, what were these painted with? I can't tell from the pictures, but is this latex brush & roller work and did you paint the insides? I have a couple similar short and tall cabinets that are mismatched and I want to correct that. I think mine are powder coated and the large one has minor ding and dents and light surface rust I want to fix. If you sprayed them, what did you use? Rustoleum or similar?