Uncle_Charlie
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The screw heads are so badly mangled that they're not recognizable as screw heads. So far I've broken two extractors on the jaw attached to the dynamic. Good times.
Wilton Bullet Vise date stamping. show yours with or without EXP on slide
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The screw heads are so badly mangled that they're not recognizable as screw heads. So far I've broken two extractors on the jaw attached to the dynamic. Good times.
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drivesitfar
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Uncle: Can you post any pictures? Some of the guys drill out the heads of the screws on some vises, pull jaws off then use use vise grips to unscrew the stubs. Not sure if it will work for you.
Uncle_Charlie
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McBrownie
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bagged89s10
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I believe this one had a date stamp 4/46. It was hard to see the month and forgot to check it closely before it was picked up.
Anyone know why the dynamic jaw says 840 and the static jaw says 940 with the letters WE under it?
Anyone know why the dynamic jaw says 840 and the static jaw says 940 with the letters WE under it?
McBrownie
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Bagged,
Please forgive the lack of a mirrored finish.
My 9300 has a similar pattern of 8300 and 9300 on my 3". I assume it is a numbering system for their castings. By the way, I think my dynamic says 8300N, and I don't have a clue why.View media item 55702View media item 55703
bagged89s10
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Bagged,
Please forgive the lack of a mirrored finish.
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Lol. So what's the correct model number for these vises?
Uncle_Charlie
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Progress to report...the jaws are both removed and pretty well destroyed. The part of disassembly I dreaded the most, the pins, took all of 5 minutes. I'm still not sure how that happened. Anyhow, I'm posting a couple pics for posterity sake. One is the internal part with the female threads. I'm only posting it because it is stamped 7-40. There is no date on the key or the keyway. I thought I read the company started in 1941. If so, 7-40 might be a part number. The second picture is posted because in all the disassembly videos I've seen, no one has separated the cone from the body of the vise. The picture shows the cone out as far as I can get it tonight. I've shot with a fair amount PB blaster to see what happens tomorrow.
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drivesitfar
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Uncle: that # on the vise nut is most likely a part # and not a date. can you post more pictures of your Wilton bullet over on the vise repair 101 thread? the cones do come off and some need a bit more coaxing than others. if you post up your vise's pictures and questions over there i'm sure you'll get an answer fairly quickly and maybe by the guy that takes apart Wilton bullet vises almost daily and restores them for others.
slow and stead is the route to go so glad you are spraying with PB and asking questions.
good luck
slow and stead is the route to go so glad you are spraying with PB and asking questions.
good luck
Uncle_Charlie
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Will do. Didn't know there was a repair thread.
va.grouseman
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Wanted to add my Ward Wilton to the mix.---But there is no date to post.---Searched the slide, the key on both sides, and the key-way channel.---Found nothing.---Like all the others with no date stamp, have no idea when it was made.
Note, how the grip on the jaws is in a lateral pattern, like the York, instead of serrated.
Note, how the grip on the jaws is in a lateral pattern, like the York, instead of serrated.
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drivesitfar
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VA: do you think those jaws were on that vise from the factory? with the styling of the vise i'm guessing WWII timeframe, but don't know the history on Wards vises yet? speaking of York vices are they date stamped on their slide too?
Uncle: here's the link and not saying we can solve all your vise repair issues, but it's a good read and a lot of great help on that thread if you ask and need some usually.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252830
Uncle: here's the link and not saying we can solve all your vise repair issues, but it's a good read and a lot of great help on that thread if you ask and need some usually.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252830
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Outlawmws
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Interesting that Wilton made vises for Monkey Wards on contract. that could have been a lifesaver for them right after WWII...
Moose364
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Here is mine, that I'm redoing it belong to my Grandfather, it has been in storage for the last 15 years, after running across this thread I remembered I had it, it has 845 with a M stamped below it and 945 on the other half, hope this helps you
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drivesitfar
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Moose: your date stamp of 10/50 i don't think is very common, but BB would know best because he has put together the data on his Excel worksheet. if you need any help with the bullet just post up more pictures on the vise repair 101 thread and one of us will help you if you need any. good save and story and what color are you painting it?
VA: is your York anywhere close to check and see if it has a date on it's slide? also just a gentle reminder to get a few family photos of your chain gang and piles.
VA: is your York anywhere close to check and see if it has a date on it's slide? also just a gentle reminder to get a few family photos of your chain gang and piles.
There are five other bullet's with a 1950 date so far. So it is uncommon. NO vise's have shown up with a 1954 date, that appears to be the year they started the GUAR EXP stamp with 1 year warranties for Cadets and 5 years for Bullets.
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drivesitfar
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BB: thanks again for all the work you've put into this thread. any chance you might have pictures saved to your computer of all the styles of Wilton bullet vises?
ALL: anybody else have all the Wilton bullet vise styles saved that you can post all here from the first Patent Pend on the sides to the late 60's styles?
ALL: anybody else have all the Wilton bullet vise styles saved that you can post all here from the first Patent Pend on the sides to the late 60's styles?
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drivesitfar
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Moose: i'm not sure when Wilton started selling bullet vises without the swivel bases, but they did sell vises that way and might still do that. you might find a broken Wilton bullet that has a good swivel base if you want one, or mount it to a bench if you want to. or make a stand and for it and then you'll have a 360 degree access to the vise and no need for a swivel base. here's a picture of a non swivel 3 inch wide jaw bullet on a stand to show you what i'm talking about and another non swivel 6 inch wide jaw.
i'm not sure when they changed from green to blue grey, but personally if you don't have a favorite color you might want to strip it and put BLO (boiled linseed oil or johnson paste wax on it).
i'm not sure when they changed from green to blue grey, but personally if you don't have a favorite color you might want to strip it and put BLO (boiled linseed oil or johnson paste wax on it).
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Drivesitfar
I love the ideal of the BLO I like old things to look old, I have never done any metal with Linseed oil, so I will have to read up on this, I come more from more of a wood working and electrical back ground. Ive used linseed oil in wood working, but never in metal,
And I will keep my eye open for a swivel base
Thanks again for your help.
I love the ideal of the BLO I like old things to look old, I have never done any metal with Linseed oil, so I will have to read up on this, I come more from more of a wood working and electrical back ground. Ive used linseed oil in wood working, but never in metal,
And I will keep my eye open for a swivel base
Thanks again for your help.
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drivesitfar
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Moose: you're welcome. applying BLO either with a rag or a brush is pretty easy and if you decide to paint it later Fretters and Bagged have already crossed that bridge and paint does fine on it or mixed with it.
here's a bullet one of the Budweiser hydro fabricators took the paint off so he didn't have any chance of getting any on his welds at his table. Wiltons look pretty cool naked if you ask me.
cheers
ALL: hope you all have a great 2016
here's a bullet one of the Budweiser hydro fabricators took the paint off so he didn't have any chance of getting any on his welds at his table. Wiltons look pretty cool naked if you ask me.
cheers
ALL: hope you all have a great 2016
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Moose364
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Thanks I was reading online about using a 50/50 mixture of linseed and beeswax heating it up and heating the metal a little that your going to apply it too,
And I do like that naked Wilton, and that's a nice table also,
And I do like that naked Wilton, and that's a nice table also,
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drivesitfar
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Moose: that is one table that got away and i wish i would have known how to move heavy things better a few years ago and it would have been mine now.
once you do spiff up your Wilton of your Grand dad's take plenty of pictures and post it up on the vise thread and i bet more than a few of us will mention we like it and the story behind it.
cheers
once you do spiff up your Wilton of your Grand dad's take plenty of pictures and post it up on the vise thread and i bet more than a few of us will mention we like it and the story behind it.
cheers
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JeremyBurke
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5-76. That is just 3 months shy of the greatest month of all time.
Well post pics anyways!
Ask and you shall recieve. As you can see it's pretty beat up. I'm probably going to do a restoration eventually but haven't gotten around to it quite yet. Oh and I accidentally left my aperture at 2.8 so only part of the vise ended up in focus. Sorry about that.
From looking at a whole lot of pictures it's probably from around 1945 to 1952. In 1953 they started putting Chicago 14 on them. 14 was the old postal code for the area the Chicago factory was in. Postal codes are the precursor to the zip code which came out in 1963.
Greetings,
Help Please? My Dad just gave me my Grandfathers Wilton Vise. I contacted Wilton Tools and Tony replied that is a 400N 4” Machinist Vise.
Thanks for all the posts that I have been able to read thus far.
My Wilton: 4” Jaws, Weight approx 41 lbs, NO Date Stamp (My Grandfather was a Machinist/Supervisor at the Portsmouth Navy Base from 1936 until 1971 – where I’m sure he acquired the vise – So I tend to agree with No Date for govt. issue.
I am looking forward to restoring this wonderful piece!!
Any replies welcome and appreciated!
Help Please? My Dad just gave me my Grandfathers Wilton Vise. I contacted Wilton Tools and Tony replied that is a 400N 4” Machinist Vise.
Thanks for all the posts that I have been able to read thus far.
My Wilton: 4” Jaws, Weight approx 41 lbs, NO Date Stamp (My Grandfather was a Machinist/Supervisor at the Portsmouth Navy Base from 1936 until 1971 – where I’m sure he acquired the vise – So I tend to agree with No Date for govt. issue.
I am looking forward to restoring this wonderful piece!!
Any replies welcome and appreciated!
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drivesitfar
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Haunter: welcome to the forum. yes you have an old Wilton Bullet. it's hard to tell what's under the surface rust as far as the casting, but i can tell you that your Gramps took very good care of that vise and didn't abuse it like some that we see. if you want to spiff it up here's a few threads you might like to read and then re post pictures of the vise on one of those or back on this one if you have time.
Vise Repair 101 thread has maybe the best information for spiffing up a vise.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252830
Homemade electrolysis has great information on that thread for removing rust.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252830
Vises of Garage Journal just hit 2000 pages and 40,000 posts of pictures of vises and talking about them so grab a chair and enjoy.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252830
Wiltons are not the easiest vises to take apart so take your time and ask questions if you have any because some of our members can take one apart in their sleep.
good story and again welcome to our little growing group of like minded guys and gals.
Vise Repair 101 thread has maybe the best information for spiffing up a vise.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252830
Homemade electrolysis has great information on that thread for removing rust.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252830
Vises of Garage Journal just hit 2000 pages and 40,000 posts of pictures of vises and talking about them so grab a chair and enjoy.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252830
Wiltons are not the easiest vises to take apart so take your time and ask questions if you have any because some of our members can take one apart in their sleep.
good story and again welcome to our little growing group of like minded guys and gals.
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Loydski29
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Picked up this Wilton yesterday for 30 bucks! This is my first Wilton and luckily it's seems to be in really good shape.
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I was wondering if the numbers on the static and dynamic jaws are supposed to match? Or if I have a mix match of parts here.
