tjpavlov
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Is toptul only metric?
What to do when it's time to upgrade your go-to (mid-range USA) 3/8 Sockets...
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Is toptul only metric?
ssdave
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I can understand and maybe agree with the statement about the unbeatable deal.
But are you really stating that you can't beat TOPTUL's quality? That they are really the highest quality sockets and wrenches available? Highest quality as in Fit, Finish, Durability, Best Design, and Strength is better than any other sockets and wrenches?
If that's really the case, I'd love to hear more about it, with something verifiable to back up the claim. And, I'm not being facetious or snarky about it. I really would love to find out that the best quality wrenches and sockets available, really only cost $35 for an entire set of sockets, in all 3 drives. A full set of sockets in all 3 drives as I recall is about 90 sockets. That's less than 40 cents a socket! Cheaper than chinese made craftsman!
What backup do you have for this statement?
Thanks for your followup. I'm looking forward to hearing more.
Okay: A postscript. I searched ebay, and couldn't find your $35 plus shipping deal. I did find a 37 piece set of metrics only, in the 3 drive sizes for $65 plus about $22 shipping. So, about $90 for the set, and that's about $2.40 a socket. Not quite as good a deal as yours. Does yours include all the sockets, or just the metrics?
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Coolabah
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As an aside, I'm finding it amusing that the OP'er asked for help to narrow the choices, while the membership is adding to his choices. Now I'm interested to learn what the OP'er ends up buying.
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Ha ! yes but this is what GJ is all about - we all assume (right or wrong) that the OP might not know enough to narrow the choices...
The truth ? You caint HANDLE the truth !! LOL
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FlushingDIYer
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Coolabah, honestly, I'm so torn... These Toptul's are nice. And the price, oh man...
I'm thinking there's a methodology here.
Perhaps, buy the cheapest/quality set you can afford.
And replace broken sockets with HIGH-END USA sockets. I might even just get some commonly used sockets (e.g., 10mm, 15mm and 18mm in S-K or Wright) to prepare...
I'm thinking there's a methodology here.
Perhaps, buy the cheapest/quality set you can afford.
And replace broken sockets with HIGH-END USA sockets. I might even just get some commonly used sockets (e.g., 10mm, 15mm and 18mm in S-K or Wright) to prepare...
R_einan
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My vote goes to either SK or Proto. Lean towards SK for the easier replacement/warranty issues.
ssdave
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Please explain- I do not understand your post. For $35.00 , I think anyone who pays his own bills would understand- this is NOT Snap-On. The real question is - is this a good deal for $35 ?
"And, I'm not being facetious or snarky about it." Arrghh... that means you are being so with bells on ! All the marketing courses my bosses forced me to go to say so, also never say "Trust me..." "to tell the truth" etc.... implies that otherwise the opposite applies all the time by default..
I'm quite serious. Your post appears to say that the original statement is not true. I agree that it could easily be the best deal. If it is in fact also the best quality, that makes the deal even better. I was asking (and hoping) that the original statement is true, not your post stating that they're not equal to Snap-on........
I do not have access to Toptul in anyplace where I can get my hands on them to see what they are for quality. Much less own one to try. Thus my question. If the quality statement can really be backed up, and if they are really available for $35 plus shipping on ebay (not the $65 plus shipping I found), I would be a buyer of some to try.
If the statement is really meant to say that the quality is okay for the low price, and they are a good deal, I'll pass. Because I want to have the best quality, because I can. I already own Snap-on and Proto, which I personally consider to be the best quality. If Toptul surpasses them in quality, and only costs $35 plus shipping, I'm in. But, I don't want to fall for some marketing hype, I want something to back up a pretty bold statement. At least a followup assertion from their marketing rep that their tools are really the best quality available, without reservation.
Coolabah
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oops I tried to edit my post for correctness and it disappeared ???
I totally agree with buying the best one can afford- it is what I have "always" done with no regrets. Having said that , I have bought some tools on clearance etc that I normally would not have done....with some exceptional OMG what a fantastic purchase thoughts once they arrived. I have a KC Tools socket and wrench set on clearout for around $50 that I would have paid $300 for , ONLY in retrospect as I would not have looked twice at them otherwise !
ssdave
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OP, sorry for the derail of your question. My answer would be, of the brands you have posted, I would pick the following, in this order: Proto, Williams, SK, Armstrong. Maybe Wright somewhere in there.
I have personally owned and used Proto, Williams, SK, and Armstrong. I have had a set of Wright wrenches, and a few sockets.
I think Armstrong are okay, quality is about the same as older Craftsman. SK are a bit better, but I've broken a fair number of SK sockets. I had them as an upgrade from Craftsman, and they were. I replaced the SK with Proto, and they are noticably better quality. I also own some williams, and they are comparable to Proto. I like the Proto style/finish better. The few Wright I have had I couldn't warm up to. Seemed good tools, just didn't like them.
I have a box of Klein sockets at the moment. USA made, but I'm not impressed that they're the equal of SK or Proto. I haven't used them to see how they hold up, though.
I'd leave the door open for the Toptul, depending on what the quality really is. The price certainly is low enough.
I have personally owned and used Proto, Williams, SK, and Armstrong. I have had a set of Wright wrenches, and a few sockets.
I think Armstrong are okay, quality is about the same as older Craftsman. SK are a bit better, but I've broken a fair number of SK sockets. I had them as an upgrade from Craftsman, and they were. I replaced the SK with Proto, and they are noticably better quality. I also own some williams, and they are comparable to Proto. I like the Proto style/finish better. The few Wright I have had I couldn't warm up to. Seemed good tools, just didn't like them.
I have a box of Klein sockets at the moment. USA made, but I'm not impressed that they're the equal of SK or Proto. I haven't used them to see how they hold up, though.
I'd leave the door open for the Toptul, depending on what the quality really is. The price certainly is low enough.
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FlushingDIYer
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As an aside, I'm finding it amusing that the OP'er asked for help to narrow the choices, while the membership is adding to his choices. Now I'm interested to learn what the OP'er ends up buying.
As to the question, any of the brands mentioned should serve you well. If I was making the choice for new sockets (I tend to shop the used market), I'd go with SK. Not that they're superior to the other brands vs cost, they're about the same, but to reward Ideal (the new parent company) for making the commitment and investment to keep the brand in the US when they could easily have sent production overseas after taking over. Instead, they built a new modern manufacturing plant on the site of the old facility and added jobs. That earns my vote any day.
I like the way you're thinking. I really believe American-made means something. (It better anyhow...) If I had to say which direction I'm leaning towards, it's the S-K set. $65 shipping included from Circle C Supply...
You know, you're being 100% rational here. Thanks for that! I've had to warranty my 10, 13, 15 and 18... The old USA set is slowly becoming non-Chinese. But you're right. They're still getting the job done. I am really thinking about having my home set, my car set, and the set I leave at my parents' or my brothers when they ask me to do work on their car... So you're voting for those Taiwan William sockets? At $27 for the set, they're pretty amazing if you ask me...
I picked up some Klein sockets a while back dirt cheap. Not bad. Fit and finish looks good. Haven't put any of them on a ratchet so I can't speak to durability. They look to me like fairly low-end - but again, they were way cheap ($8.00 + shipping for all three sets) - I can't complain.
Of those you listed there - Wright is a hell of a product but it's way spendy.
Proto is nice stuff but also way up there on price, although there are deals on new stuff on Ebay if you pick through the listings.
I'd say best bang for the buck out of those would be S-K.
Just my lousy two cents.
S-K. Thanks for your vote! I am wondering if there will be any crazy black Friday sales this weekend. I think I'll probably go with S-K, Wright, Proto, Martin (in that order) depending on the sale... I think I'd only take those Klein's for $8!
You know, you're making me reconsider my original question... I looked up those Toptul sockets a poster listed recently and the seller has 1/4, 3/8, 1/2 in shallow and deep for around $100. That's not a bad deal if you ask me... But getting back to your point, you're absolutely right. My initial thought was: get the best damn 12-14 piece 3/8 socket set you can afford and start building that "better" toolbox. In the long run, those $20 aren't going to mean a thing. Thanks for the insight!
This is way too mature of a question for me to answer...
- I really don't want foreign brands.
- I want something that won't chip chrome. I haven't chipped any chrome in decades and I've only ever worked in a driveway!
- I have a decent shadetree setup for what I do. More and more my USA CM are replaced with Chinese CM and my set just feels worn.
- I can't go past $100...
I'm leaning away from the Armstrongs. They're like Vanilla ice cream to me. And not high end Vanilla. Just store-brand fresh Vanilla ice cream on a hot day... I'd like something "different" from what I have. I'm also curious about this Toptul sleeper...
I have been replacing my sockets. But I guess my impetus here is to start developing that secondary set and that "trunk" tool set. I'd mess around with that Kobalt set. Though, the Lowes around here is a long drive!
Yeah, no one ever showed me how or when to use 1/2 drive sockets. I broke most of my 3/8 sockets before getting a set of Chinese CM 1/2 sockets on sale.
Why do you feel the need to upgrade? If your current sockets are performing well, why change?
Here's my take on some of your choices:
ARMSTRONG: You're not upgrading. They are the same as a US Made Craftsman Socket.
MARTIN: only having that single hole on one side of the socket for drive tool retention ball would drive me crazy.get a set that has a nice cut out on each side of the square drive. That single hole is why I got rid of all of my Cornwell sockets.
WILLIAMS: Both the US made set or their Taiwan made set will serve you well. The US made set size markings are a little on the small side but, great sockets for the money.
SK: Wide range of sizes available in case you want to expand above 19mm or below 8mm. US Made. Excellent choice as long as you don't mind some sockets having silver paint on the inside and others not.
PROTO: Probably the best of the lot. Large, deep stamped size markings, rich chrome, US Made, very tough and durable, off corner engagement.
GEARWRENCH: Probably the best imported socket set and the nicest finished sockets inside and out you'll ever find. The deep knurled band on the base on the socket is great for finger spinning and aids in socket removal from a drive tool. Nice, easy to read stamped size markings on two sides of the larger sockets. I've used them for several years without any issues. Probably the best value of the bunch too, if you shop around.
One brand not listed but, that you may want to consider is NAPA's Carlyle. They have a very extensive 3/8 set that is often on sale. The sockets are nicely finished and fit well too. Warranty isn't an issue because, I doubt if you would ever break one through normal use, and NAPA's are plentiful to get a replacement if needed. Carlyle sockets are made in Taiwan.
The upgrade is really a response for the following reasons:
- feeling "looseness" in my US CM sockets, having too many of them Chinese replacements in my set
- needing to start developing my secondary and "trunk" toolboxes
- and just wanting to upgrade a little
Carlyle runs circles around Duralast right? I might need to talk into a Napa and really check them out.
What the heck are you on about?
The better taiwaneese tools these days are very good. I don't think I would really trade my Facom 3/8 sockets for anything else save Hazet or Snap on, and thats about it. None of the other brands mentioned interest me at all in that drive size.
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FlushingDIYer
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I never heard of KC Tools... Will definitely keep an eye on them.
I would buy this set in a heartbeat... if it only had 6 more sockets!
Wera 300210 Zyklop 3/8" Metric Socket Set
buckwheat_la
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For everyone ragging on dnschmidt, maybe go do a bit of research before you start in on the guy. Toptul is a top of the line brand in Asia, and most definitely has its merits and drawbacks like any other line of tools. But for quality vs price, it is very hard to beat. (and I don't have a single Toptul tool yet, but only because other that dnschmidt, there is no service for them in North America, and because I am in Canada, it is even harder) but when I researched it, they are not joke.
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FlushingDIYer
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Seriously, these are kinda nice...
Toptul socket set 1/4" 1/2" drive 5mm 32mm
Kinda wacky to have a 1/4 and 3/8 set together. But that case is badass. Don't really like the look of those ratchets. But I know a lot of folks love all that cushion...
four.cycle
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Flushing DIYer said:
well.... every now and then something comes up... like this one:
S-K 91820 22-pc 3/8" drive 6-pt METRIC socket set
shallow / deep-well
listed as used. looks mint.
$4.25 incl. shipping now. 2 bids now. ends Thurs. 12/01 17:46 PST
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-min...114235?hash=item2824dc607b:g:paAAAOSwpLNX8Fqw
all depends, of course, on how high it gets bid up....
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FlushingDIYer
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2 bids already... will probably go for at least $100. (Which is still a bargain...)
Not to nitpick too much but there is a crack in one of the deep sockets in that set
four.cycle
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most likely covered by S-K's warranty.
dnschmidt
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Here's my reply. Many people on this forum have bought TOPTUL sockets and wrenches from me. ASK THEM WHAT THEY THINK. Also, Eric Obrochta of South Main Auto YouTube fame has used them for two years now without any complaint other than that they fit too well and sometimes don't go on swelled rusted bolts (if you've ever watched his videos rust is the bane of his existence) as they have tighter tolerances than normal sockets and wrenches (less slop). Eric can break an anvil and flat out has told me that he prefers TOPTUL's screwdrivers (which he uses constantly in his videos) to anybody's.
I stand by my statement. These are as good of wrenches or sockets as any in the world and far better than most. And for the price, they are the best in the world.
I stand by my statement. These are as good of wrenches or sockets as any in the world and far better than most. And for the price, they are the best in the world.
ssdave
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Thanks for the reply back, Dnschmidt. I have to say I like your positive statement that they are as good as any in the world. Can you post a link to where you sell the $35 set? Or maybe where you sell some wrenches? I couldn't find it. What is the warranty on these? If the warranty is equal to the other good tool brands, I'll I'll buy and put a set to use and see for myself if they are really the equal of my SO and Proto, and post the results, either way it comes out. If I have to use the warranty, I'll also post how it compares to my experiences with others.
dnschmidt
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Go on EBay and look up schmidtdn (my EBay user name) all the stuff I have is on there.
Keep
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I will add a Wright vote, I have switched damn near my entire tool box over to Wright. i even wrote up a comparison a couple years ago on Wright, US Williams and Craftsman.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84586
Search the classifieds here for Wright, I bought a ton from here for cheap.
(**** that was 6 years ago...wtf)
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84586
Search the classifieds here for Wright, I bought a ton from here for cheap.
(**** that was 6 years ago...wtf)
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FlushingDIYer
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Just went through your 6-year old post. Thanks for doing that! It's really useful to see the difference and gauge the tolerances. I love the Wrights even more now. They just look head and shoulders stronger than most of the others...
I wonder if they're "that" different from Wright's CougarPro line (especially the Cougar Pro A37, 3/8 Drive 13 Pc. 6 Pt. Std. Metric Socket Set set). Have you had the opportunity to use any CougarPro sockets??
Keep
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Cougar is the Taiwan, made Wright, sort of like Blue Point is to SnapOn.
I have a Cougar set, I wanted to see the difference, I would compare it to the Taiwan Wiliams sets, probably made in the same plant!
I have a Cougar set, I wanted to see the difference, I would compare it to the Taiwan Wiliams sets, probably made in the same plant!
cougar pro is likeley now asian COO, hit up the search I believe COO has changed around. they were trying to bring it back to the USA. I wouldn't bet on it being a cheaper version of the mainline tools either. wright sells to industrial and government accounts, they don't have any incentive to undermine their main brand, but they do have incentive to offer pricepoint altertives to win bids by blending down average cost in non-critical applications.
Keep
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Oh yeah, ebay is another great place for Wright. Since its not a "Popular" name, you can find outstanding deals.
Look up Blue Point socket sets. The Williams Taiwan sockets are rebrands of these.So you're voting for those Taiwan William sockets? At $27 for the set, they're pretty amazing if you ask me...
...
Carlyle runs circles around Duralast right? I might need to talk into a Napa and really check them out.
Gearwrench used to be all Taiwan. Kobalt Taiwan, Dewalt sockets at Sears, all are within 1% of each other, and Carlyle, and Williams Taiwan of being all the same exact thing. Great for the money.
My vote is, whatever Williams makes in USA get the USA one. The above are not bad sockets, but the USA Williams are head and shoulders better. My only complaint about Williams is true of many other brands also, they do not fully broach their deep well sockets and some things really suffer in reach or accessibility.
On that topic. Gearwrench mid depth sockets. Far as I know still Taiwan made. You need some as does everyone. Here is the best advice I can give you. Take this opportunity to expand your tool kit rather than replace some. Get the mid depth sockets from GW and revisit this issue if you still have issues with the shallow ones you're having difficulty with now.
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FlushingDIYer
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I've been looking! Some pretty sweet 12-point sets on there that can be had for a good price. But nothing in 6-point!
Mind blown...
Hadn't even considered that. In essence, switch to giving the mid-length sockets bulk of my 3/8 work until I need shorts and longs... To see if I really need to replace those... Thank you for that solid, rationale advice!
I've been looking! Some pretty sweet 12-point sets on there that can be had for a good price. But nothing in 6-point!
Mind blown...
Hadn't even considered that. In essence, switch to giving the mid-length sockets bulk of my 3/8 work until I need shorts and longs... To see if I really need to replace those... Thank you for that solid, rationale advice!
I would second add mid deep sockets, in fact I would highly recommend even investing in a snap on set in mid 3/8. Snap on mid deeps I think in both 1/4 and 3/8 is where the brand shines and the compliment other lines of tools whic don't make sockets in these sizes.
If you need other options, I think USA and German brands is kind of limited but Koken (jp) and Carlyle (TW) are other choices beyond GW.
But if you have $100 budget for this you can get lucky on ebay if you keep at it. Koken and Carlyle are maybe $40-60 and GW as low as $25 but usually 35 or something.
Good luck
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FlushingDIYer
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I would second add mid deep sockets, in fact I would highly recommend even investing in a snap on set in mid 3/8. Snap on mid deeps I think in both 1/4 and 3/8 is where the brand shines and the compliment other lines of tools whic don't make sockets in these sizes.
If you need other options, I think USA and German brands is kind of limited but Koken (jp) and Carlyle (TW) are other choices beyond GW.
But if you have $100 budget for this you can get lucky on ebay if you keep at it. Koken and Carlyle are maybe $40-60 and GW as low as $25 but usually 35 or something.
Good luck
Oh man, like these huh? I like how you're thinking!!
MATCO TOOLS 12 PIECE 3/8 DRIVE METRIC MID-LENGTH SOCKET SET 8MM TO 19MM
I just looked up the Carlyle mid length socket set and they're almost $20 more than the GearWrench set. This is a solid approach, T45. Thanks for this. Oh man this is a solid approach...
I wish Advance Auto sold the mid-length GW sets because I'd pull the trigger right now using the great Black Friday coupons they have going...
I'm going to start paying attention to the ebay deals out there, too.
WWheeler
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+1 on the semi deeps.
I have old metric and SAE sets of Craftsman 3/8 semi deep 6 pts and they have always been my 'go-to' most used. Sadly Craftsman doesn't make them any more, but even if they did they'd be China or Taiwan made like the GearWrench. I lost one once, replaced it with a Snap On, but it eventually turned up. Was glad as I really didn't like having a mismatched set after having kept it for something like 3 decades now.
I have old metric and SAE sets of Craftsman 3/8 semi deep 6 pts and they have always been my 'go-to' most used. Sadly Craftsman doesn't make them any more, but even if they did they'd be China or Taiwan made like the GearWrench. I lost one once, replaced it with a Snap On, but it eventually turned up. Was glad as I really didn't like having a mismatched set after having kept it for something like 3 decades now.
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FlushingDIYer
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I'm glad you mentioned the, perhaps irrational, attachment to having a complete set for decades. My US CM is going on decade three... And I just like that set--maybe because it's my first set, maybe because I taught myself with that set, maybe because there's history there. I walked down to the Sears by parents' when I was 17, bought a mechanic's set and have been wrenching ever since!
I think my drive to replace that go-to 3/8 set is because sockets are starting to be Chinese CM and Duralast (I live nearer to an Autozone than a Harbor Freight!) and I just don't like the feel of a set that isn't complete.
I just found this set on eBay:
NEW INDESTRO 13 PIECE 3/8" DRIVE 6 POINT METRIC SOCKET SET *MADE IN THE USA*
I like how it stands out. It isn't a common set. And it's beefy as hell, without being pretentious. It'l outlive me! It's in the price range... But that 12pt, 10mm... For that price I can get a quality US set, new!
Why is buying tools harder than buying a used car!
four.cycle
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^ well... don't take my word for it, but that Indestro set you just posted is as good as you're going to get (and that includes Proto, Armstrong, Wright, Williams, S-K.) (I won't include Snap-on in that list only because it would start a ******* match here.)
moreover, Sophie (the seller) is a great person to deal with.
I have no doubt you'd be pleased with those.
If you want to see some close-up images of the product, see:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5261997#post
5261997
(scroll down a bit to get to the sockets.)
really excellent stuff. I just didn't mention it before assuming you were looking for something from a manufacturer that was still in business.
moreover, Sophie (the seller) is a great person to deal with.
I have no doubt you'd be pleased with those.
If you want to see some close-up images of the product, see:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5261997#post
5261997
(scroll down a bit to get to the sockets.)
really excellent stuff. I just didn't mention it before assuming you were looking for something from a manufacturer that was still in business.
four.cycle
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if you're concerned about the 12-pt 10mm, here's a spare:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-INDESTR...:g:0ZAAAOSwgZ1Xsc5f&item=252501174766&vxp=mtr
also an excellent seller. I deal with him all the time.
odds of finding a matching "Duro Indestro" 46010 6-point are pretty slim, but you never know what'll pop up on Ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-INDESTR...:g:0ZAAAOSwgZ1Xsc5f&item=252501174766&vxp=mtr
also an excellent seller. I deal with him all the time.
odds of finding a matching "Duro Indestro" 46010 6-point are pretty slim, but you never know what'll pop up on Ebay.
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FlushingDIYer
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Thanks for the info. Being in business doesn't matter if it'll survive nuclear fallout!
I like the idea of having a good experience with a seller. Hmmm, I think I need to sleep on this one, and let the Tool Gods of Yesteryear speak to me...
Why o why can't Sophie have that 10mm in a six-point!!!
four.cycle
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Well... because she got the set that way.
There's another Ebay seller - " mikeylikes22 " - who also has a few new (NOS) Indestro socket sets containing mis-matched pieces (mix of 6-point and 12-point, or mix of "Duro Indestro" and "Indestro Super" and/or "Indestro Select")
I communicated at length with Sophie about that set you just cited above. It is the way she got it - still sealed up in the original shrink-wrap plastic.
Now, my best guess is that in the final days of Indestro's operations - they ran into some serious financial difficulties in their waning days - they were putting together "sets" made up of inventory they had on hand.
Consider that if you're manufacturing sockets, you do a run of thousands of pieces. So they probably had 92 gazillion 9mm sockets, and only a few hundred 10mm and 13mm left.
When push comes to shove, you do what you gotta do to keep the doors open.
Indestro was most likely managing to keep the doors open by pumping out product any way they could.
-BK
former buyer/treasurer (retired), Tillicum Suppliers Inc., AA Auto Parts Inc., Tacoma, Wa. 1971-1988 - Indestro Tool Warehouse Distributors - Thorsen Tool Warehouse Distributors
There's another Ebay seller - " mikeylikes22 " - who also has a few new (NOS) Indestro socket sets containing mis-matched pieces (mix of 6-point and 12-point, or mix of "Duro Indestro" and "Indestro Super" and/or "Indestro Select")
I communicated at length with Sophie about that set you just cited above. It is the way she got it - still sealed up in the original shrink-wrap plastic.
Now, my best guess is that in the final days of Indestro's operations - they ran into some serious financial difficulties in their waning days - they were putting together "sets" made up of inventory they had on hand.
Consider that if you're manufacturing sockets, you do a run of thousands of pieces. So they probably had 92 gazillion 9mm sockets, and only a few hundred 10mm and 13mm left.
When push comes to shove, you do what you gotta do to keep the doors open.
Indestro was most likely managing to keep the doors open by pumping out product any way they could.
-BK
former buyer/treasurer (retired), Tillicum Suppliers Inc., AA Auto Parts Inc., Tacoma, Wa. 1971-1988 - Indestro Tool Warehouse Distributors - Thorsen Tool Warehouse Distributors
WWheeler
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I'll just throw this out there ...
Craftsman 10 Pc 3/8 in Drive 6 Point Std. Metric Socket Set - Made In USA
US $19.25 Free Shipping
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Craftsman-1...d-Metric-Socket-Set-Made-In-USA-/282259783317
CRAFTSMAN 16PC METRIC 3/8DR SOCKET SET "MADE IN THE USA"
$49.00 Free shipping
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CRAFTSMAN-16PC-METRIC-3-8DR-SOCKET-SET-MADE-IN-THE-USA-/142180975467
Craftsman 10 Pc 3/8 in Drive 6 Point Std. Metric Socket Set - Made In USA
US $19.25 Free Shipping
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Craftsman-1...d-Metric-Socket-Set-Made-In-USA-/282259783317
CRAFTSMAN 16PC METRIC 3/8DR SOCKET SET "MADE IN THE USA"
$49.00 Free shipping
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CRAFTSMAN-16PC-METRIC-3-8DR-SOCKET-SET-MADE-IN-THE-USA-/142180975467
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FlushingDIYer
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Update:
Perhaps I was a little impetuous, but I pulled the trigger earlier today on an SK set that just popped up on eBay today..
This was $64 on eBay.
NEW SK 6-point sockets, deep and shallow: 12mm, 13mm, 14mm, 15mm, 16mm, 17mm, 18mm, 19mm with a Lisle 16 socket magnetic holder.
This set came out to about $4 a socket.
I thought long and hard about this before pulling the trigger. Here's my rationale:
In all honesty, most of what I do falls in this range. These are my most used sockets and the ones that are most loose in my USA/CH Craftmans. And so with this set, I get some deeps and shallows that I'll use often. I kind of wish there were 10mm in there, but oh well. I guess that'll just make me use my SK 1/4 10mm more often! Now I get to move these old CM (into this holder!) and move that into a bag in the trunk of our car.
Thanks everyone for your help in figuring this out. I really appreciate it. I'm gonna put some mid-lengths on my Christmas list...
I was really considering going with a big GW purchase, but Advance doesn't carry the mid-lengths and so I didn't feel like I was getting a good enough deal. The SK 13 piece set was $65, shipped from Circle C Supply, but at the end of the day, this just felt like a better deal... And I was really, really thinking about Toptul (complete toolbox overhaul for $120...) but it just didn't work out... And was this close to pulling the trigger on the Indestros, but walked away.
How often do you all feel like you need to "get a good deal" on stuff? That really guided my decision this morning.
Happy Thanksgiving everybody!
Perhaps I was a little impetuous, but I pulled the trigger earlier today on an SK set that just popped up on eBay today..
This was $64 on eBay.
NEW SK 6-point sockets, deep and shallow: 12mm, 13mm, 14mm, 15mm, 16mm, 17mm, 18mm, 19mm with a Lisle 16 socket magnetic holder.
This set came out to about $4 a socket.
I thought long and hard about this before pulling the trigger. Here's my rationale:
In all honesty, most of what I do falls in this range. These are my most used sockets and the ones that are most loose in my USA/CH Craftmans. And so with this set, I get some deeps and shallows that I'll use often. I kind of wish there were 10mm in there, but oh well. I guess that'll just make me use my SK 1/4 10mm more often! Now I get to move these old CM (into this holder!) and move that into a bag in the trunk of our car.
Thanks everyone for your help in figuring this out. I really appreciate it. I'm gonna put some mid-lengths on my Christmas list...
I was really considering going with a big GW purchase, but Advance doesn't carry the mid-lengths and so I didn't feel like I was getting a good enough deal. The SK 13 piece set was $65, shipped from Circle C Supply, but at the end of the day, this just felt like a better deal... And I was really, really thinking about Toptul (complete toolbox overhaul for $120...) but it just didn't work out... And was this close to pulling the trigger on the Indestros, but walked away.
How often do you all feel like you need to "get a good deal" on stuff? That really guided my decision this morning.
Happy Thanksgiving everybody!
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four.cycle
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^ damn hard to beat that one.
you should be able to find a 10mm (and maybe even 8mm and 11mm) in both shallow and deep and still be ahead.
you should be able to find a 10mm (and maybe even 8mm and 11mm) in both shallow and deep and still be ahead.
Derek420
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I own the Williams, snapon, wright, proto, sk, Armstrong, cougar all USA and Williams, cougar pro and a couple tekton and for the price and warranty as well as quality I love the wright the most and I also own Ma , Matco,hornet by Williams and cornwell as well many others yeah I got a lot of sockets I'd say close to 2000.The Wright's are just as nice as snap ons and are tough as nails and have some weight to them just like the snappys do and I've tried them all enough to give an accurate review socket wise at least but ratchet wise I like snap on, cornwell, and Mac and gearwrench. Gearwrench is a great socket as well the chrome is beautiful and price is good as well and cougar pro or older USA cougar if I was price conscious would be a tie for wrench but those would be my choice and I'd never pick one as you can tell lol I bought them all.