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kwhunter

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Wilton C1 pipe jaws

Problem solved, yanked them out wilt the Allen key and vise-grips...

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Need some help...
I am trying to pull out the pipe jaws from a Wilton C1 (the new model with the clips/springs) to no avail... any tips on how to do it? pulling straight doesn't work, they have to be disengaged somehow, but how?! I tried an Allen key hold in a vise-grip inserted in the pocket and pulling from underneath... no success

Thanks.
 
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Anyone know about this DP vise? It's made by Milwaukee tool Co. It's 6" wide X 6" opening. It works well except the last 1" of travel. When I open it this wide it starts to bind??? The screw may be just slightly bent but almost unnoticeable??? There is a number, 3390 in the dynamic jaw casting fwiw.
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Hchrist, your pic is so big I can't fit it on my screen, but I think your dp vise looks like a Wilton. Maybe Wilton bought them out at some time? Maybe there is a retainer screw that comes up from the bottom, holding the screw in the moving jaw? If there is, remove it and see if the problem is the screw or the jaw.
 

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All,
So I'm scanning Craigslist ads in large cities that surround my location when I came across this Columbian 604 vise, listed in the Cincinnati CL. I noticed that it has a socket head cap screw (SCHS) in each jaw body. I've restored 3 of these vises. Never seen one with SCHS installed.

Any idea what that's for?:dunno::headscrat
 

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454ragtop

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All,
So I'm scanning Craigslist ads in large cities that surround my location when I came across this Columbian 604 vise, listed in the Cincinnati CL. I noticed that it has a socket head cap screw (SCHS) in each jaw body. I've restored 3 of these vises. Never seen one with SCHS installed.

Any idea what that's for?:dunno::headscrat
Suspect it is an owner mod. If the bolts go right thru may be for some sort of fixture that sat on top of the slide.
 

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Those are probably oil holes Mark.---Utilizing the big Columbian voids, one can just squirt oil right through to the slide or screw and oil the whole thing in one motion.:lol:---I really shouldn't poke fun because I really like Columbians and use one every day.---Shame on me.:twak:
 
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Those are probably oil holes Mark.---Utilizing the big Columbian voids, one can just squirt oil right through to the slide or screw and oil the whole thing in one motion.:lol:---I really shouldn't poke fun because I like really Columbians and use one every day.---Shame on me.:twak:

I need to make a road trip and check out your MUSEUM, VA...
 

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I went on a pick today. The guy had 2 vises he said aren't for sale (yet). First one was a
6" fpu he say he bought new in the 70's If his kid doesn't want it he will call me. Second is a parker 4x. Looked liked 5 1/2" with a cracked slide. Not much info on the 4x out there. The guy is a scrapper these days so I will butter him up with scrap in hopes of getting a vise.

I think the 4X was the model before the 229X &. 39X I am currently working on. A "9" was added to the model to note the patented Semi Steel bar in the slide (1906 ) A guess on my part, the previous X models had two round rods inleu of the reinforcing bar and both had the "Parker special mixture steel casting". The 4X you saw should have had a pear shaped spindle knob and not the big meat ball round one. Age is probably 1900 + or - five years.
 

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joe.striper

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Sold 4 6" vises, Holland, Yost, Reed and my beloved Athol 626 tonight and 2 5" vises and one of my Stephens vises......sigh....time to restock.:sad:

You can ask why and its because I'm buying big this weekend, Delta Rockwell sander, 3 Penn International reels on stand up rods and a Yost 33c....:thumbup:

My shop looks NAKED. Guy wanted my 8" vises, and my Wilton 3C...no, no, no....:willy_nil
 

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Get that 39x is its little brother. Thanks for posting that photo. I didn't want to take photos and spoke the seller. Nice man that had some old tools. I will revisit in a couple of weeks.
 

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So here is another free to me vise. I was picking up my son from a play date about 12 years ago, the other dad said the neighbor was moving and there might be some tools in the basement. I told him to let me know if there was a vise or two and I would most likely buy them. Next time I picked my son up he handed my the vise. Sadly they moved to Ireland and the boys drifted apart.

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It spent many years at work on my bench till I switched it out for the Wilton CO that I bought off a friend of mine for $35 when he moved to Florida.
Jim
 

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Previously posted by Zoomieport.

I need to make a road trip and check out your MUSEUM, VA...
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Zoom, Fred said about the same thing just the other day and I told him I would be ashamed for anyone to see the utter chaos I call a shop and surrounding area.---I would really love to show what I have like Demo does, but I've got a scrap piles of vises surrounded by scrap piles of tools, surrounded by scrap piles of scrap.---It's embarrassing.---Hope to build me my dream shop if I ever get these boys out of college.---Then I'm going to put them on display, the vises.---And right now I'm nursing a bad back I got for building a rock wall out of rocks I shouldn't have been lifting.---You would have to do all the plundering and digging while I sat and watched.:lol:
 
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Not sure if you guys have seen this but it's worth a watch. Kevin and ZK may really find this interesting.

See how much fun it is to make chips, look at all the setups and all the different tooling needed for that project. Heavier cuts can be made on a horizontal mill, did not see to many vises holding that project, it was mostly clamped down to the table. Those setups take time. Would not be a vise that I would use though. A more useful vise for guys like me is a grinding vise. I made one almost thirty years ago and I still use it often. No pictures handy to share. Fits in the palm of my hand and very precision.
 
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Top, I watched the video, it was fascinating.---That is like Michelangelo starting with a big stone and working it down to a awesome piece of sculpture.---It was in there all the time.---Seems like it would be easier just to buy one though, let someone else do the carving.---But it does gives me a better appreciation of what our tip top machinists here on GJ have to go through when giving new life to a vise that's about to flat-line.

How many machinist/drill press vises would there have been in the first Transcontinental Railroad line?:headscrat:dunno:
 

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Sold 4 6" vises, Holland, Yost, Reed and my beloved Athol 626 tonight and 2 5" vises and one of my Stephens vises......sigh....time to restock.:sad:

You can ask why and its because I'm buying big this weekend, Delta Rockwell sander, 3 Penn International reels on stand up rods and a Yost 33c....:thumbup:

My shop looks NAKED. Guy wanted my 8" vises, and my Wilton 3C...no, no, no....:willy_nil

8s and 3Cs have to stay on the not for sale shelf at my place as well :)
 

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Previously posted by KMScott.

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I've heard that sprinkling those iron chips around walnut trees, apple trees, any nut or fruit bearing trees will make them bare more harvest.---You hear everything,:dunno: but if it's true, lets get to whittling and grinding out those vises.---An apple a day.
 

4Nines

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Previously posted by KMScott.

See how much fun it is to make chips
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I've heard that sprinkling those iron chips around walnut trees, apple trees, any nut or fruit bearing trees will make them bare more harvest.---You hear everything,:dunno: but if it's true, lets get to whittling and grinding out those vises.---An apple a day.

I've never heard that, but it would be cool if it was true!
 

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Previously posted by Zoomieport.

I need to make a road trip and check out your MUSEUM, VA...
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Zoom, Fred said about the same thing just the other day and I told him I would be ashamed for anyone to see the utter chaos I call a shop and surrounding area.---I would really love to show what I have like Demo does, but I've got a scrap piles of vises surrounded by scrap piles of tools, surrounded by scrap piles of scrap.---It's embarrassing.---Hope to build me my dream shop if I ever get these boys out of college.---Then I'm going to put them on display, the vises.---And right now I'm nursing a bad back I got for building a rock wall out of rocks I shouldn't have been lifting.---You would have to do all the plundering and digging while I sat and watched.:lol:

I must be honest, it sounds like HEAVEN to me... (and very familiar... LOL!)
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Take care SIR!
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Does anyone here have a Reed 4C split-nut that they are willing to send to Kevin Scott so he can make a duplicate for me? PLEASE???
 

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I've never heard that, but it would be cool if it was true!

It's an old wives tale.

Putting iron in the dirt doesn't mean that it will be usable to the plants. Iron is reactive enough that unless your soil parameters are perfect, the iron is going to react with soil components/oxygen long before the plants can get it. Most commercial fertilizers that contain iron have to chelate it to make it bioavailable.
 

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Redvise they sure do share a lot of similarities.
Here is another one, I have it mounted on a piece of oak so I can take it where ever I need it like onboard a boat for example. Sorry, exposed screw.

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I've had this vise for a long time and it has done quite a bit of work with me. Must be about 35 years with me. Anyone know who made it?

Jim
 

4Nines

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It's an old wives tale.

Putting iron in the dirt doesn't mean that it will be usable to the plants. Iron is reactive enough that unless your soil parameters are perfect, the iron is going to react with soil components/oxygen long before the plants can get it. Most commercial fertilizers that contain iron have to chelate it to make it bioavailable.

I figured that was the case. Too bad because all my trees could have benefited from the piles of chips I get from my mill.
 

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Redvise they sure do share a lot of similarities.
Here is another one, I have it mounted on a piece of oak so I can take it where ever I need it like onboard a boat for example. Sorry, exposed screw.

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I've had this vise for a long time and it has done quite a bit of work with me. Must be about 35 years with me. Anyone know who made it?

Jim

i believe its a rock island, i think i got 1 too.
 

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Picked this up as a project, 50's vintage, knew its issue when I bought it, consulted the vise jedi up on the mountain for his knowledge and he thinks it is salvageable so I am going to give it a shot...armed with my grinder and some patience. :rocker:

For all of you that dump a 30lb vise in a flat rate box, this is what we get :eyecrazy:
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Betty blue...
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Wish me luck, I can't stand the idea of this being wasted due to someone's lack of thought, a full resto is gonna happen! These wilt projects are piling up! :scared:
 
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Boatman53

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Ok so for the Little Giant maybe a Rock Island or Littlestown.

This one I know now but I didn't when I bought it. The jaws are just 2 1/4" wide.

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It a Stanley sweetheart #754 sorry it didn't photo very well.
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View from the bottom.
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I still need to finish cleaning this one up.
Jim
 
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