Lets make an all vintage Snap-on tool picture thread!

Jp267 · Nov 2, 2017

Pics 1&2)Snap-on GSW-281 1/2in drive 7/8

3&4) Snap-on GSW-301 1/2in drive 15/16

5&6) Snap-on GSW-12 1/2in drive 3/8

7&8)Snap-on 3/8 to 1/2 adapter A-2

9&10)Snap-on SF121 Deep 3/8 drive 3/8

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snapmom · Nov 2, 2017

The F70 is old, probably early 30s

Jp267 · Nov 2, 2017

snapmom said:
The F70 is old, probably early 30s

Oh wow thank you. Was thinking around late 30s had no idea it was that old. Neat!

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Private Lugnutz · Nov 4, 2017

I'm not sure what to make of the markings on the flip side of this Snap-On model 2512 (13/16 x 3/4) DBE wrench. It has what appears to be an "*" mark, which is 1931. But it also has an oblong or sideways "0" or "o" or something that looks like an "0" or "o". Any thoughts?

snapmom · Nov 4, 2017

Has a double code (not unusual) 30 & 31

Private Lugnutz · Nov 4, 2017

Thanks. I don't see that too much (not at all, actually) in the wartime years. Was it an early thing? Or have I just not run into them?

d42jeep · Nov 5, 2017

Tin Medic and I have both run into double year markings on wartime Snap-on tools. Not frequently but it happened occasionally.
-Don

snapmom · Nov 5, 2017

Every once in a while, three date codes.

Private Lugnutz · Nov 5, 2017

d42jeep said:
Tin Medic and I have both run into double year markings on wartime Snap-on tools. Not frequently but it happened occasionally.

Starting to ring a bell, Don. Were they sockets? Socket drive tools? And were the date stamps not contiguous, i.e., separated by several (or at least a few) years? Almost - as I vaguely recall us wondering - as if they were old stock re-used and therefore re-stamped?

snapmom · Nov 5, 2017

There is no good answer to it. Sometimes 10 year spread. Sometimes a early 20s tool shows up with a 30 code. Most of the doubles are early 30s. I think most of the first codes are machine stamped and the later ones maybe hand stamped.

Catfishdan · Nov 9, 2017

I found my first pair of vacuum grip pliers today. They look more like octopus tentacles to me, but pretty cool nonetheless. Late 1950's, yes?

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Private Lugnutz · Nov 9, 2017

They may have a date code somewhere on the inside of the handles, Dan.

d42jeep · Nov 10, 2017

I have a pair without the date code that look like those but I picked these up a couple of weeks ago and they were made in 1951.
-Don

Catfishdan · Nov 10, 2017

Private Lugnutz said:
They may have a date code somewhere on the inside of the handles, Dan.

Right you are. Looks like they're from 1958. Thanks!

Private Lugnutz · Nov 10, 2017

I picked up one of the smallest special Snap-On pieces I have ever collected at the flea market this morning! Marked "Snap-On 9/16", no date code anywhere to be found, but I think it's wartime period. EDIT: Added a pic of it with the other midget tools I found it with, all wartime.

snapmom · Nov 10, 2017

What drive size

Oldtuleguy · Nov 10, 2017

If it is 9/32 drive it is unusual

Private Lugnutz · Nov 11, 2017

The crowfoot is 1/4-inch drive.

snapmom · Nov 11, 2017

Private Lugnutz said:
The crowfoot is 1/4-inch drive.

Those are hard to find. Here are a couple of 9/32 dr, probably from the same era.

Farmer J. · Nov 11, 2017

I have 4 of those, easy to find in my box but I've no idea exactly how old they are. All 1/4" drive.
Sizes 9/16",1/2",7/16",3/8". The 1/2" has the size and 'snap on' name stamped the opposite way up to the other 3.

MShaw · Nov 13, 2017

Just for the gee whiz, the attached photo shows a long arm ratchet that I bought used in 1962. When I bought it the dealer rebuilt it with a "coarse tooth" kit as he knew I would be working where strength was more important than tooth count. Last year I purchased the "economy" short ratchet on ebay as it was the same as my first ratchet which was traded in on the long arm. Bought it for sentimental reasons.
Recently I did tooth counts and the long arm is 20 tooth which was the tooth count for the "economy" ratchet and the "economy" ratchet must have been rebuilt as it is 32 tooth. So the end is I have a short ratchet with the higher tooth count which works well in tight spaces and the long arm with 20 teeth for strength. Two wrongs appear to have made a right.

Private Lugnutz · Nov 13, 2017

snapmom said:
Here are a couple of 9/32 dr, probably from the same era.

Agreed. The US Army Air Corps was fond of 9/32 dr right up to the end of the war for their midget needs, whereas the Ordnance Dept and others standardized on the 1/4.

Private Lugnutz · Nov 17, 2017

As reported on the Garage Sale thread, I found a couple vintage Blue-Point tools today. More precisely, a No. 4 32 oz Blue-Point (Kenosha) ball-peen hammer and an 18-inch BLUE POINT (Chicago) screwdriver.

The hammer has the "4" (32ozs) and "32 ozs" marked on the cheek, and could date anytime before 1958, when they went to the BP-# model numbers and marking on the cheek, but it looks 40's to me, based on the overall look and the look of the Blue-Point font. (EDIT: I would welcome comments/suggestions/guidance on this. It would be very helpful to be able to at least distinguish the 40's ball-peen hammers from the 20's/30's and 50's ball-peen hammers.) I need to strip the green paint off the handle, which is original, and see if I can revive the grain.

See thumbnail 1 and 2 for the photos I posted of both of them together on the Garage Sale thread.

What I didn't notice on the screwdriver until I cleaned it up was the tiny 1929 date code marking ("29-") on the ferrule!

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I am very impressed with construction of this screwdriver. The shank goes all the way through to the striking cap, and the extra heavy duty ferrule is machined from solid bar steel. It's so well integrated with the forged shank, that I initially thought it was forged as one with the shank.

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Oldtuleguy · Nov 17, 2017

That's a good screwdriver for being 88 years old!

Private Lugnutz · Nov 18, 2017

Oldtuleguy said:
That's a good screwdriver for being 88 years old!

And straight as a pin, too!

EDIT: The 32-oz ball-peen hammer handle cleaned up real nice. (I'm not big on gadgets and I'm not one for pimping products, but I was out of stripper, and I took a flyer on a small can of Zip-Strip "Semi-Paste" with a plastic nozzle sprayer glued to the can. I was leery of it not working as well as the thick jelly, but it was terrific. It stated beading up almost immediately after being sprayed on, and after 10 minutes, it wiped right off with a scotch pad. And best of all, no clean up!)

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d42jeep · Nov 19, 2017

Private Lugnutz said:
As reported on the Garage Sale thread, I found a couple vintage Blue-Point tools today. More precisely, a No. 4 32 oz Blue-Point (Kenosha) ball-peen hammer and an 18-inch BLUE POINT (Chicago) screwdriver.

The hammer has the "4" (32ozs) and "32 ozs" marked on the cheek, and could date anytime before 1958, when they went to the BP-# model numbers and marking on the cheek, but it looks 40's to me, based on the overall look and the look of the Blue-Point font. (EDIT: I would welcome comments/suggestions/guidance on this. It would be very helpful to be able to at least distinguish the 40's ball-peen hammers from the 20's/30's and 50's ball-peen hammers.) I need to strip the green paint off the handle, which is original, and see if I can revive the grain.

See thumbnail 1 and 2 for the photos I posted of both of them together on the Garage Sale thread.

What I didn't notice on the screwdriver until I cleaned it up was the tiny 1929 date code marking ("29-") on the ferrule!

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I am very impressed with construction of this screwdriver. The shank goes all the way through to the striking cap, and the extra heavy duty ferrule is machined from solid bar steel. It's so well integrated with the forged shank, that I initially thought it was forged as one with the shank.

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Lugz,
Are you using a 41-R-2750 Rule, blacksmiths', steel, folding, length 36", 3 folds as your measuring device in these pictures? If so, that's just showing off!
-Don

Private Lugnutz · Nov 19, 2017

d42jeep said:
Lugz,
Are you using a 41-R-2750 Rule, blacksmiths', steel, folding, length 36", 3 folds as your measuring device in these pictures? If so, that's just showing off!

Close. It is a folding blacksmith's rule, but this one is brass, length 24", two folds, L.S. Starrett, No. 462. A bit older than your General-made machinists' kit rule. (If I recall correctly, you have an L.S. Starrett No. 460 as well, right?) Neither one is easy to find!

See thumbnails 1, 2, and 3 (1917 Starrett catalog page). I found it in the wooden toolbox shown in thumbnail 4 a month or so ago, and I've been using it for photos of my antique era finds ever since.

d42jeep · Nov 20, 2017

That is a cool rule. I think that I'll start using my Starrett for tool photos. Since I derailed the thread a bit, here is a Blue Point 1/2" X 9/16" DOE wrench I found on Friday. I couldn't find a date code but it has quite a rough finish. Any guesses?
-Don

twertsy · Nov 20, 2017

d42jeep said:
That is a cool rule. I think that I'll start using my Starrett for tool photos. Since I derailed the thread a bit, here is a Blue Point 1/2" X 9/16" DOE wrench I found on Friday. I couldn't find a date code but it has quite a rough finish. Any guesses?
-Don

That looks pretty early Don. Supreme trademark was first used in '34.

snapmom · Nov 20, 2017

It has the Made in USA stamp, so it is probably early 40s due to that and the war finish

Private Lugnutz · Nov 20, 2017

d42jeep said:
I couldn't find a date code but it has quite a rough finish. Any guesses?

Agree with snapmom, Don. Almost certainly wartime. I found quite a few of the set of six (6) (-1214, -1618, -1922, -2024, -2526, -2630) that are in mrbill's No. 488 Super Service kit.

And none of them had a date code. In fact, now that I think about it, I'm not sure I've ever seen a DOE S- series wrench with a natural steel finish and a date code.

snapmom · Nov 20, 2017

You see some codes on late 30s also 41-42. but that is about it.

Bigwheels · Dec 22, 2017

Hey snapmom thanks for directing me to the proper thread ill get some more pics of my collection this weekend i just started picking up snapon last summer bit have already accumulated some really cool stuff.

Cf mtn · Dec 22, 2017

hi all, couple day's ago i went up to a pawn shop to see what a 260.00 ukulele looks like. i came home with this.

Sudsy · Dec 22, 2017

Here's something you don't see every day:

Spring loaded, allows a solid bar handle to move like a ratchet

Cf mtn · Dec 22, 2017

Sudsy said:
Here's something you don't see every day:

Spring loaded, allows a solid bar handle to move like a ratchet

wow, thats a rather industrious looking piece. very cool.

Oldtuleguy · Dec 22, 2017

There are a few versions of those. I have heard them called cogs, Ratchet adapters, barrel ratchets. I believe blackhawk had a version as well. There is a good article on collecting snap on about them.

Oldtuleguy · Jan 1, 2018

Here is a snap on 7/8 drive set in 18b metal box. Missing xhd 6 extension if anyone has one. Other wise complete plus a 2 1/4 and a 2 1/2 socket.

d42jeep · Jan 2, 2018

I took a picture of my wartime Snap-on Midget sets today. The 9/32" drive set is missing the M-21 screwdriver bit and the M-408 8 point 1/4" socket.
The 1/4" drive set is missing the TM-2 short extension and the TM-408 8 point 1/4" socket. Please let me know if anyone has any of my missing wartime pieces to spare. Thanks,
-Don

Private Lugnutz · Jan 3, 2018

Sudsy said:
Here's something you don't see every day:

Cf mtn said:
wow, thats a rather industrious looking piece. very cool.

Oldtuleguy said:
There are a few versions of those. I have heard them called cogs, Ratchet adapters, barrel ratchets. I believe blackhawk had a version as well. There is a good article on collecting snap on about them.

I missed this whole exchange.

The early versions (No. 6) with the exposed teeth were around for about 10 years (1920-30), then dropped. Snap-On later re-introduced them (as No. 67) in a design that they would make in many drive sizes for many years with the gearing internalized, engaged or disengaged with a button. The Collecting Snap-On article dates those to 1941, but I've got them dated to 1939, which page 13 of Snap-On Catalog N (1939) confirms. Twertsy and others posted later examples of ratchet adaptors from Snap-On, Blackhawk, and other Mfgrs' on page 29 of the Ratchet Collection Thread, linked here.

My interest in looking at them harder is an interesting example of one that I have from an obscure mfgr that dates to 1920. I believe it contends with Snap-On as a first of its kind. EDIT: More on that in its own thread some time this year.

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