Lets make an all vintage Snap-on tool picture thread!

Oldtuleguy · Jan 3, 2018

The earlier ones I have seenfrom snap on say pat pending, while the later versions have a pat date 1923. Blackhawk licensed it for their version. If you have an earlier version I would be interested to see it!

Private Lugnutz · Jan 3, 2018

Oldtuleguy said:
If you have an earlier version I would be interested to see it!

Just to clarify, Otg, I didn't mean to imply I had an earlier (and what would be a fifth) version of the Snap-On No. 6 ratchet adaptor. I have a ratchet adaptor made by a different, obscure mfgr that is just as old as, and possibly older than, the Snap-On device, uses an inline design (which Snap-On would not do until 1939), and it was actually patented before Snap-On's.

snapmom · Jan 3, 2018

Here are some diff ones. notice the diff heights (1,2) (3) (4.5,6)
1,2,3 has the pat 1/30 on the body (3) has it on front and back and 1923 stamped on the male socket end.
(4) has pat D 1/30' also has a diff font, and is stamped upside down.
(6) has a 1931 date code.

Oldtuleguy · Jan 3, 2018

Looks like first one has less teeth?

snapmom · Jan 3, 2018

they all are 15. but take a look at this ad, says 12.

Oldtuleguy · Jan 3, 2018

These are the three versions I have. Looks like they are all 15 teeth except the first one has only 8. Anyone ever see that 12 toother? Could it be a misprint? One in ad does not look like it has 12 teeth.

eggs73 · Jan 4, 2018

Picked up these blue point, short double box ends

eggs73 · Jan 4, 2018

Bottom one has a "E" date code which I think was for emergency? Not sure any info and/or correction would be appreciated. Thank you, eggs73

Oldtuleguy · Jan 4, 2018

1944, the one above it is a 35, no date on other one

SKI1019 · Jan 4, 2018

I'll throw one on the pile. Here's my 5/8" female drive ratchet. Per AA, it should date to 1926 or 27 based on the name font.
Thanks Steve.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=721959&stc=1&d=1515120497

Oldtuleguy · Jan 6, 2018

Nice find!

d42jeep · Jan 11, 2018

Here is the Snap-on and Blue Point I picked up at an estate sale this morning. I think that the 2" 3/8" drive hydraulic line crowsfoot has to be considered a little unusual. The drag link bit is from 1945 and the wartime looking Blue Point combo has no date mark.
-Don

Oldtuleguy · Jan 11, 2018

That is an unusually large crowsfoot...

d42jeep · Jan 12, 2018

I can’t imagine that I will ever run across a 2” hydraulic fitting but it will make an interesting display piece. I actually passed on some similar ones at a sale in Minden, NV last year. In speaking with the seller, it turns out that he had been an aircraft mechanic in his earlier life. I didn’t try to purchase them at the time and immediately regretted it as his prices turned out to be incredibly reasonable.
-Don

Oldtuleguy · Jan 12, 2018

I would only say even if you never use them they are pretty cool to hang up on the wall!

Private Lugnutz · Jan 12, 2018

Oldtuleguy said:
That is an unusually large crowsfoot...

Haha. I just said the same thing on the Garage Sale thread!

d42jeep · Jan 12, 2018

I checked back and my neighbor did pick one up at the Nevada sale. Here is his. I had to kind of enlarge the image.
-Don

Private Lugnutz · Jan 21, 2018

As first reported in the 2018 Garage Sale thread here, I picked up an old S overstrike O logo socket today, 1/2-inch drive, 6-point 3/4" service opening. Also a Blue Point PT-27 telescoping (full length 27") magnetic parts pickerupper tool. I haven't researched that one yet. Guessing 40's. Edit: See GS thread for full size pic of the magnetic parts grabber.

MShaw · Jan 21, 2018

Here's my PT-27 that I bought in 1962. Also a smaller PT-9 bought at the same time. And, just for kicks, my GA-51A inspection mirror from the same year

d42jeep · Jan 21, 2018

One of my recent estate sale finds is these tiny vacuum grip pliers from 1953. Definitely keepers.
-Don

Oldtuleguy · Jan 21, 2018

Nice find!

Mr. Wonderful · Jan 22, 2018

I hope I'm in the right thread for these. I got these for $1 each at an estate sale. Everything was pretty old. I hope these qualify for vintage. If anyone has any info on these double box end wrenches it would be appreciated.

d42jeep · Jan 22, 2018

They are definitely in the right place. The date code that I can see on one wrench is from 1964 which is around the time that they all were made. Nice wrenches!
-Don

Oldtuleguy · Jan 22, 2018

I would say those were a deal for a buck each!

d42jeep · Jan 22, 2018

Here are your wrenches in the ‘65 catalog on the Collecting Snap-on site.

http://www.collectingsnapon.com/catalogs/catalogs.php?loggedin=0&catalogPage=1929

-Don

Mr. Wonderful · Jan 22, 2018

d42jeep said:
They are definitely in the right place. The date code that I can see on one wrench is from 1964 which is around the time that they all were made. Nice wrenches!
-Don

D42,

I searched the code stamped on the one side all I could find on the collecting snap on site was 1948 -1975. What digits indicate the exact year?

Oldtuleguy · Jan 22, 2018

It's a single digit, the difference in the font is how you tell the year.

Farmer J. · Jan 24, 2018

There's a 1957 Snap On advert listed on the e bay for special sets for specific equipment,
link:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1957-Sna...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

can anyone get the picture off the internet to post here?
Does anyone know what the list of tools were to go in these kits (or at least the Land Rover one!)

d42jeep · Jan 24, 2018

Here is a screenshot of the image.
-Don

d42jeep · Jan 24, 2018

Mr. Wonderful said:
D42,

I searched the code stamped on the one side all I could find on the collecting snap on site was 1948 -1975. What digits indicate the exact year?

The date code is the 4 stamped on your wrench to the right of the USA. Compare it with the 1964 date code.
-Don

d42jeep · Jan 24, 2018

Speaking of date codes, here is a socket from 1946 marked only with a part number S5001 and "Not Guaranteed" and no Snap-on logo. I couldn't find any reference to it in the '46 catalog. Any thoughts? Sorry about the picture quality.
-Don

Private Lugnutz · Jan 24, 2018

d42jeep said:
...here is a socket from 1946 marked only with a part number S5001 and "Not Guaranteed" and no Snap-on logo. I couldn't find any reference to it in the '46 catalog. Any thoughts?

Coincidentally, I'm in the middle of a little deep dive on Snap-On guarantees. (Akin to my mini-expose on Plomb Pebble Period dating...) That initiative has required me to take a closer and more disciplined, detailed look at the tools Snap-On did not guarantee, which were denoted throughout every catalog with a * (actually, a bold classic five-pointed star symbol, which I don't have on my keyboard), as forewarned with a Note, on the Introduction page (typically, page 3), where the guarantee was stated, starting in 1939 (Catalog N). The reason provided was, "...tools, which, because of their nature, are liable to abuse and therefore are not subject to replacement."

Common sense dictates some of these (e.g., cellulose tipped hammers). And some start to reveal their logic. Anything with a tiny, thin, easily damaged edge or tip, for example, such as all the smallest sizes (/32nds) in pin, starter, and drift punches, and all Phillips head screwdrivers.

Sockets that were not guaranteed, from what I have gathered so far, fall into one of two categories:

(1) special small sockets with tiny forged structures that could easily be damaged, such as Midget drive (1/4-inch) carburetor sockets with prongs, refrigeration sockets for packing gland nuts, and all Midget and Ferret (3/8-inch) drive screwdriver attachments.

(2) special connecting rod sockets (for Ford, Cadillac, Buick, etc). And these had similar part numbers to your S-5001. For example, the Ford V-8 connecting rod socket (9/16, 6-point), S-9001.

I have not gotten to the stage of doing a more thorough, comprehensive empirical study to match the catalog study, but I have a 3/8-inch drive screwdriver attachment that is NO GUAR marked, snapmom has confirmed the correlation, and it seems that every NO GUAR tool that shows up seems to match the catalog caveats.

So, my bet is your socket is a special socket, perhaps for connecting rods, that didn't make it to the catalog. Or it's there and you missed it, which is easy to do. EDIT: Did you check the very back? That's where they stuck car brand oriented tools (for Ford, etc.)

Farmer J. · Jan 24, 2018

d42jeep said:
Here is a screenshot of the image.
-Don

Thank you.
-Jon.

snapmom · Jan 24, 2018

It looks like a 9001, I do not think a 5001 was made.

Mr. Wonderful · Jan 24, 2018

d42jeep said:
The date code is the 4 stamped on your wrench to the right of the USA. Compare it with the 1964 date code.
-Don

D42,

Thank you so much! I can use this chart to check some of my other wrenches from that era.

d42jeep · Jan 24, 2018

snapmom said:
It looks like a 9001, I do not think a 5001 was made.

As usual, you are correct. The stamping is weak on the nine but in the right light it is much more clear. It looks quite a bit different than the standard SW marked 1/2" drive sockets. Thanks!
-Don

Private Lugnutz · Jan 24, 2018

As I alluded to in post #554, that V8 connecting rod socket can be found near the back of Catalog R (1946), on a page amongst a few pages dedicated to special Ford tools.

3baygarage · Jan 25, 2018

Another NOT GUAR for the study.

S-9803-B. 1/2” drive 7/8 opening with hard plastic insert. No date code. Catalogs (1939, 40’s) list it as a Buick spark plug socket.

snapmom · Jan 25, 2018

Does it have a date code? I have the S9803-A

Private Lugnutz · Jan 25, 2018

Without there being any small fragile steel fixtures associated with these 1/2-drive spark plug sockets with robust 6-point openings, do you think it's the inserts that were putting them on the NO GUAR list?

EDIT: Actually, the S-9803-A and -B were guaranteed again by 1946, possibly earlier. I didn't look back year by year to find exactly when they removed the *. But it's not there in the 1946 catalog. They must've found a design they were more confident in.

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