2018 Garage Sale Thread

Smokeshow69 · Oct 2, 2018

dkroth said:
That's a lot of Jay.

Am I the only one who feels like I'm being watched?

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Yes I agree!

Jay- just a friendly heads up, you will get more replies and better info if you post your questions in the respective threads of the items you are wondering about instead of posting them here on the garage sale thread. It took me a bit to figure this out as well

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Jaydb07 · Oct 2, 2018

dkroth said:
That's a lot of Jay.

Am I the only one who feels like I'm being watched?

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My apologies dkroth. Point taken.

georgiadave · Oct 2, 2018

To free the ball, put some penetrating oil on it, and then squeeze the ball side of the bar in a vise. That should free up the ball There is a spring under the ball. It may be rusted.

dkroth · Oct 2, 2018

Jaydb07 said:
My apologies dkroth. Point taken.

Ha! No apology necessary.

Maybe I should apologize for being paranoid.

:thumbup:

Or were you really watching me? Hmmmm.

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3baygarage · Oct 3, 2018

Lucky but weird pawn find today. There was a carry box loaded with tools, tag was marked $20 “Tool Box, Hand Tools”, something like that. Mainly cheap wrenches, then I spotted the Snap On cutters in there. It was worth the 20 to me for all. Well, brought it to the counter to buy and was shut down by the counter woman.

Her: Can I help you.
Me: Yes, I’d like to buy this box.
Her: You want just the box? The box itself is $25.
Me: I thought it was a really nice deal.
Her: Those are loose tools. I put them in there but they’re supposed to go in another box.
Me: :headscrat

(I guess forget what the tag says ) How much per tool?
Her: Depends what it is.
Me: I put the Snap On and Wiss on the counter How about these two cutters? (Fingers crossed)
Her: picks up the Snap On, puts it down..1,2,...$2
Me: Ok. (returns box to shelf, gets in line)
Her: Are you taking the those two? Give me $3.
Me: :wtf:

You said $2, right?
Her: Yeah, ok give me $2. :lol_hitti

The Snap On handles cleaned up really nice.

Capt. Spaulding · Oct 3, 2018

3baygarage said:
Lucky but weird pawn find today. There was a carry box loaded with tools, tag was marked $20 “Tool Box, Hand Tools”, something like that. Mainly cheap wrenches, then I spotted the Snap On cutters in there. It was worth the 20 to me for all. Well, brought it to the counter to buy and was shut down by the counter woman.

Her: Can I help you.
Me: Yes, I’d like to buy this box.
Her: You want just the box? The box itself is $25.
Me: I thought it was a really nice deal.
Her: Those are loose tools. I put them in there but they’re supposed to go in another box.
Me: (I guess forget what the tag says ) How much per tool?
Her: Depends what it is.
Me: I put the Snap On and Wiss on the counter How about these two cutters? (Fingers crossed)
Her: picks up the Snap On, puts it down..1,2,...$2
Me: Ok. (returns box to shelf, gets in line)
Her: Are you taking the those two? Give me $3.
Me: You said $2, right?
Her: Yeah, ok give me $2.

The Snap On handles cleaned up really nice.

I love when people have no idea what they are selling.

3baygarage · Oct 3, 2018

Yeah, that, and I love when the prices change by the second.

Ole Slewfoot · Oct 3, 2018

There is nothing quite like watching a defeat be snatched from the jaws of victory.

I got to the flea market late, and tried to console myself with $3 of rusty Plomb, but the Indian guy made me take an old Blackhawk thirtytooths socket too.

The wobble socket is one of the smoothest grind off tools I've seen, I wouldn't have known except it says 'Los Angele...' and tapers into the grind.

The dark finish 1/2" wrench actually needed nothing but a wipe with an oily rag.

3jakes · Oct 3, 2018

Was at an estate clean out & after buying some other stuff, was told "anything in that pile you can haul away for scrap".
So I was loading up metal stock & rusty saw blades & this goober was in the pile.
I had no idea what it was, (colorectal surgery came to mind).
Today upon close inspection, I see on the wood is printed C.S. Osborne & Co. USA
I go to ebay & see a lot of leather tools.
Here is a completed sale of one that is nicer than mine:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-C-...153240?hash=item285749e858:g:Ru8AAOSwu4hazE8D
Not a bad find for free.....

Does anyone know how it is used?

Private Lugnutz · Oct 3, 2018

That sure looks like a dibber to me. Antique gardening tool. You stick that in the soil, pull it out, put a seed in the hole, and cover it up. I could be wrong, but I've seen lots of dibbers at antique shows. I totally understand your deduction, because Osborne was known for all kinds of upholstery tools, but I would want to see if they made dibbers. They made paint brushes, too. The eBay seller could be wrong.

Private Lugnutz · Oct 3, 2018

I came home with a grand total of one tool from my Triple Early Bird flea market today. But it's an interesting one. An antique brace for auger bits (I think).

Everything from the crude business end to that little brass collar under the rotating doorknob-type brace knob is one piece and hand-forged. (I admire the way the grip on the swing enlarges for the hand.) The rotating doorknob end is steel. That little knurled set-screw is brass. Hard to see from the pic, but the chuck opening for the auger bits is fairly deep and, as you would expect, tapered inside. No markings readily visible. If it had any originally, I suspect they are well worn off. This is not my area, so if anyone has any ideas on the maker, let me know, please.

pfaustus · Oct 3, 2018

Can't help with manufacturer, but that type chuck would probably have had a steel wing nut originally and became obsolescent in the decades immediately after the Civil War. Of course, the design lingered on for cheaper and cheaper stuff. I would guess that one is on the older side.

3jakes · Oct 3, 2018

Private Lugnutz said:
That sure looks like a dibber to me. Antique gardening tool. You stick that in the soil, pull it out, put a seed in the hole, and cover it up. I could be wrong, but I've seen lots of dibbers at antique shows. I totally understand your deduction, because Osborne was known for all kinds of upholstery tools, but I would want to see if they made dibbers. They made paint brushes, too. The eBay seller could be wrong.

And you look to be right. Dibble, dibber......
Here is a new one on amazon, minus the wood handle:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075SH8CTQ/?tag=atomicindus08-20

"vintage leather working tool" sounded so much better.

Private Lugnutz · Oct 3, 2018

3jakes said:
"vintage leather working tool" sounded so much better.

That's a nice find, in great condition, either way. (And it might come in handy as an accessory to a Viking Halloween costume!

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duddly · Oct 3, 2018

Private Lugnutz said:
I came home with a grand total of one tool from my Triple Early Bird flea market today. But it's an interesting one. An antique brace for auger bits (I think).

Everything from the crude business end to that little brass collar under the rotating doorknob-type brace knob is one piece and hand-forged. (I admire the way the grip on the swing enlarges for the hand.) The rotating doorknob end is steel. That little knurled set-screw is brass. Hard to see from the pic, but the chuck opening for the auger bits is fairly deep and, as you would expect, tapered inside. No markings readily visible. If it had any originally, I suspect they are well worn off. This is not my area, so if anyone has any ideas on the maker, let me know, please.

pfaustus said:
Can't help with manufacturer, but that type chuck would probably have had a steel wing nut originally and became obsolescent in the decades immediately after the Civil War. Of course, the design lingered on for cheaper and cheaper stuff. I would guess that one is on the older side.

it would fall under the description of a 'Spofford' style brace, but that is not a Spofford. I agree the brass set screw is not original, but it would have had a wing nut. I think I may have a similar one and will take a look tonight to see if there are any markings.

pfaustus · Oct 3, 2018

duddly said:
it would fall under the description of a 'Spofford' style brace, but that is not a Spofford. I agree the brass set screw is not original, but it would have had a wing nut. I think I may have a similar one and will take a look tonight to see if there are any markings.

Definitely not a fray/spotford - no split chuck. When I have brace questions, I look here: http://www.sydnassloot.com/brace.htm Yours looks an awful lot like the top one here. http://www.sydnassloot.com/Brace/Taylorb.htm

Private Lugnutz · Oct 3, 2018

pfaustus, duddly: Thanks for the leads and links. I'm out of my element on this one, but knowing enough in my gut that it was antique, I couldn't let it sit there. EDIT: I will take better photos this weekend.

duddly · Oct 3, 2018

pfaustus said:
Definitely not a fray/spotford - no split chuck. When I have brace questions, I look here: http://www.sydnassloot.com/brace.htm Yours looks an awful lot like the top one here. http://www.sydnassloot.com/Brace/Taylorb.htm

Private Lugnutz said:
pfaustus, duddly: Thanks for the leads and links. I'm out of my element on this one, but knowing enough in my gut that it was antique, I couldn't let it sit there. EDIT: I will take better photos this weekend.

Thanks for the update on Spoffords and the links. I always incorrectly referred to anything with a thumb screw or clip as a Spofford style. The link was also great. I prefer machinists and mechanics tools, but it seems like there is at least one brace in every old tool lot so I have a bunch.

Here are some older ones that I display. I don't believe that there are any markings on any of them. The back one is at least a Spofford style, and now I get to learn about the others all over! I love this hobby.

LesserSon · Oct 3, 2018

Militaria buffs:
Jake’s Flea Market is hosting a military swap meet on October 20. Here’s hoping for good weather, though there is dedicated interior space. The webpage says 8am start, but at Jake’s vendors are usually set up before then and many pack up and leave around noon.
Here’s the link:
https://www.jakesfleamarket.com/event/military-show-swap-meet-2/

LesserSon · Oct 3, 2018

Jaydb07 said:
My apologies dkroth. Point taken.

Damn, Jay, I didn’t know you were such a heel!

Private Lugnutz · Oct 3, 2018

pfaustus said:
Yours looks an awful lot like the top one here.

It does look like a Taylor!! If I am reading that page right, the earliest patent for a Taylor (#5115, 1836) is a lever-action chuck, and mine with the locking wingnut action, is older than that.

JMLangford · Oct 3, 2018

I also found only one item today like Lugtz......The ironic thing is, I was just looking at Synthetic 870 furniture last night online and was considering purchasing

but found it used today for $6 :shocking:

The forearm is branded "Blackhawk!"....

But the stock and recoil pad is branded "Remington"....

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Private Lugnutz · Oct 4, 2018

I had a nice day at my Thursday flea market.

Top to Bottom:

The two obstruction wrenches and the reverse gear wrench are all 1920's era BON{/}NEY.

The 1/2-inch drive speeder is a WWII ("HI-TENSILE" marking) Armstrong S-51.

The ball-pein hammer is a Heritage era CRAFTSMAN, original head and handle, 4 oz.

Cornwell midget spinner. not sure exactly how old, but pre-1947. It has the old logo and old model numbering scheme.

The lady's foot pry bar is a US Quartermaster Corps, with a 'US QMC' stamp, familiar to most WWII collectors. I have been hoping to run into one for the latest wartime GMTK I am putting together (my fifth!). Funny aside: the vendor - I know him, typically prices Snap-on and Craftsman quite high, and everything else quite low - thought it read 'US OTC' and I got it for peanuts.

Private Lugnutz · Oct 4, 2018

As most of you should know by now, I sometimes post photos of LEFT-BEHIND items. Things I see at my flea markets that are interesting, funny, stupid, or even things I would want but are just too damn expensive. Today an antiques dealer who obviously did his homework (Thursdays are well-know as the best day for this particular flea market...) came down to NJ from Vermont and had a whole van's worth of really nice things spread out on six U-shaped tables, all of it in the "Way Too Damn Expensive" category...

I actually introduced myself and had a very polite and respectful but candid conversation about his stuff and his prices. It made him come down, a little, on some things I was interested in, although not anything close to pocket-reaching for me, but I did get his card. If I'm right, I think he'll be more reasonable next time around.

Here are just a couple examples...

Pic 1 is a near-complete set of Winchester Auger Bits in their original Winchester branded roll-up. $125. :shocking:

As I told him, Winchester tools in general are not common, but they're not rare either. And, while they have a following, it's a small niche following. I have never seen a roll-up of auger bits before. So I do think he can command a special price. But I thought $125 was too special. I offered $50 and he would only come down to $100. I will post more photos later.

Pic 2 is an original Crescent tools cabinet, in near mint condition, with one pair of pliers, and a mess of original clips and original cardboard price tags. The tin "Smith & Hemenway" placard on top allows it to be dated to no earlier than 1926 (which he did not know until I informed him). $800. :shocking:

When you run into something like this, you can't pretend it isn't special. I freely admitted it was a once-in-a-lifetime kind of find. But again, I thought $800 very steep. I asked him if he had offered it before, and he said no, first time. I told him I wasn't sure he could fetch that from a ********* Crescent guy, let alone a more generic tool guy. I told him it was definitely in the "few hundred" category, to which he said he would let it go today for $550. Still too steep for me, I said, but wished him luck with it and took his card. I think I will find an appropriate Crescent thread, or start one, and post more photos later.

6 & 7/8 · Oct 4, 2018

This was free so I brought it home. It works but didn't come with a blade. :bounce:

6 & 7/8 · Oct 4, 2018

These items I picked up at a sale for $10. The small axe head is dated 1944,

Private Lugnutz · Oct 4, 2018

6 & 7/8 said:
The small axe head is dated 1944,

Model M1910 Hand-Axe, carried in a sheath on the web belt by many soldiers, including infantry and Corps of Engineers. Nice find.

Smokeshow69 · Oct 4, 2018

6 & 7/8 said:
This was free so I brought it home. It works but didn't come with a blade.

You ****! Free heritage era band saw and a cheap mail box grinder!

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LesserSon · Oct 4, 2018

Private Lugnutz said:
I wished him luck with it and took his card.

You handled that the right way: honestly and tactfully.

pfaustus · Oct 4, 2018

Private Lugnutz said:
As I told him, Winchester tools in general are not common, but they're not rare either. And, while they have a following, it's a small niche following. I have never seen a roll-up of auger bits before. So I do think he can command a special price. But I thought $125 was too special. I offered $50 and he would only come down to $100. I will post more photos later.

Another one who googles for the highest price they can find, then adds some negotiating room. Google shows a Winchester set selling for $100. Going rate for an auger bit roll with all the bits at the fleas is probably $25-$30. So, with a Winchester premium, $50 was a more than fair offer.

So how many dealers are there in the used section of a certain flea market a few miles south of a big truck stop at o'dark thirty on a Thursday?

Private Lugnutz · Oct 4, 2018

pfaustus said:
Going rate for an auger bit roll with all the bits at the fleas is probably $25-$30. So, with a Winchester premium, $50 was a more than fair offer.

'Zackly! And the condition was not VG on top of it! See Pics 1 and 2.

pfaustus said:
So how many dealers are there in the used section of a certain flea market a few miles south of a big truck stop at o'dark thirty on a Thursday?

Oh, it was packed today. Between the back lot, the middle (in between the covered walkways where all the new stuff - t-shirts, incense, huge dogbones, etc - is), and behind the building, easily 300 used/junk vendors. Probably only a dozen with any decent tools, though. As you probably know, there are a lot of specialists there. You got yer trains guy and yer magazines guy and yer militaria guy and yer jewelry guys and girls etc etc and the mom-and-pops and some house liquidators in between so it doesn't take too long to go through it. You saw my lot upthread. I bought all that from 4 different people.

I admire the people with their niches. Today there was a guy with all kinds of different industrial instruments. I'm not into instruments, per se, unless it has something to do with WWII mechanics or machinists' sets, but I admire any guy who wound up with this many cool examples of anything in one category, including instruments. See Pics 3 and 4.

3baygarage · Oct 4, 2018

Some cool stuff Lugz. That cabinet is incredible. I got really excited for you at first when I clicked on the other thread! You fooled me. That price will be hard to get at any flea market I think.

I’ve never seen that Winchester set either, and will say their tools are few and far between in my experience. A few years back I ran i to a vendor who had a small table full of just Winchester tools and items. My first reaction was they couldn’t be authentic but they were. He was an older guy and may have pieced it together over the years, Idk. For all I know he may have collected them online.

3baygarage · Oct 4, 2018

Decided to go back to that pawn shop from the other day and dig through again.

Different crew working today, and they are on the lookout for items deemed valuable such as Snappy. They didn’t think much of my selections and told me to name my price. $7 it was!

One Snap On in the lot, infamous 10mm (deep) 1/4”.

Kirkhill Inc. of Downey, California pliers. Looks like a plumbing parts brand. Not sure who the maker was. The style is similar to one Craftsman and others used.

Bessey clamp
Mac pick-broken
Channellock and Craftsman 1/4 ratchets, each half working.
Channelock 1/4 ext.
Vise Grip
Craftsman locking plier
Wiss snip, twin to the one from the other day.
Lineman plier, I think Klein, but rusty.

garthg · Oct 5, 2018

Private Lugnutz said:
'Zackly! And the condition was not VG on top of it! See Pics 1 and 2.

Oh, it was packed today. Between the back lot, the middle (in between the covered walkways where all the new stuff - t-shirts, incense, huge dogbones, etc - is), and behind the building, easily 300 used/junk vendors. Probably only a dozen with any decent tools, though. As you probably know, there are a lot of specialists there. You got yer trains guy and yer magazines guy and yer militaria guy and yer jewelry guys and girls etc etc and the mom-and-pops and some house liquidators in between so it doesn't take too long to go through it. You saw my lot upthread. I bought all that from 4 different people.

I admire the people with their niches. Today there was a guy with all kinds of different industrial instruments. I'm not into instruments, per se, unless it has something to do with WWII mechanics or machinists' sets, but I admire any guy who wound up with this many cool examples of anything in one category, including instruments. See Pics 3 and 4.

That stuff is probably most valuable as movie props.

garthg · Oct 5, 2018

3baygarage said:
Decided to go back to that pawn shop from the other day and dig through again.

Kirkhill Inc. of Downey, California pliers. Looks like a plumbing parts brand. Not sure who the maker was. The style is similar to one Craftsman and others used.

Yes, they use to make actual things (other than tacos) in Southern California in the past. Hard to believe, but true.

Private Lugnutz · Oct 5, 2018

3baygarage said:
I got really excited for you at first when I clicked on the other thread! You fooled me.

Not my intent, but glad to see you read the post all the way through (a pet peeve of mine when GJ'ers don't - leading to all kinds of confusion, loss of proper credit, and often all kinds of unnecessary and further confusing redundancy!). I think I may have inadvertently fooled a few others...

Private Lugnutz · Oct 5, 2018

Not a bad day at the early bird today.

I'm not a big paper collector, and hardly ever even dig through paper tables let alone buy paper unless there are vintage catalogs or manuals etc right on top that catch my eye. That's what happened today, and I came home with an undated c. 1930's Red Wing motors manual, a 1944 Thor power tools manual, and a March 1939 (no cover) and Feb 1948 Automotive Digest, chock full of ads.

That lady's foot pry bar is another 'US QMC' stamped! After not finding any suitable GMTK-correct lady's foot pry bar - from any mfgr - for the better part of a year and a half - I find two 'US QMC' stamps in two days, back to back. If that doesn’t sum up this hobby, I don’t know what does!

The S wrench is a Southington Mfg Co. "504". I found a "501" a few months ago, so I have a little collection going without even trying.

3baygarage · Oct 5, 2018

Catalogs!

Nuggets too!

Lugz, congrats on the second bar. Is there a dedicated lady foot topic? I have a bunch and was just thinking about such a thing. There have been lots of threads in Gen. Discussion but I think a dedicated show us your Ladies’ Feet (tool related only guys :lol_hitti

) may be in order.

BlueBomber · Oct 5, 2018

Excellent finds, gents. I, on the other hand, came up dry today. I had an hour to kill in Oklahoma City today so I introduced my travelling companion to the fine art of estate sale-ing. Unfortunately, on the last hour of the second day, there was nothing left worth buying. I'll be working honey-do's this weekend, but I'll look for interesting sales between tasks.

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Capt. Spaulding · Oct 5, 2018

Didn’t get to look today. Hope I can get out tomorrow to a few estate sales but am low on cash. Usually when I’m low on cash is when I find the honey hole of vintage tools.

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