Shiftless
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Chris:
Looks like it will clean up nicely. Was it just left out in the rain? Oh, the humanity!
Looks like it will clean up nicely. Was it just left out in the rain? Oh, the humanity!
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honza.vosalik
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I was able to pick up this Craftsman 5195 off a FB ad in CA today and arranged for family who live in the area to pick it up for me.
I probably would have passed on almost any other 3.5" vise but since I haven't gotten to own one of these yet, I had to try to get it.
After it was bought and paid for I was sent a pic of the other side and initially I was super scared it had a crack or big weld but they sent me another close up pic and put my mind at ease. Looks like I'll need to straighten the handle but otherwise I'm hoping it'll clean up nicely.
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Congrats! Hope it was a you **** award deal
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chrisnazzy
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Thanks Honza. On average I end up spending between $40 and $80 on most of the vises I buy. This one fell exactly in the middle of that range.
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va.grouseman
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Sorry.---Chris, what have you got circled red?---I can't make out anything.
chrisnazzy
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Thankfully it ended up being nothing. I thought it looked suspicious so I circled it in red to let my family know what area I needed a more detailed picture of.
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Shiftless
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A 5195 for $60 deserves a “you ****” even if it is a “bit” rusty and bent out of shape.
honza.vosalik
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Then you deserve a you ****
honza.vosalik
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I had yet another surprise waiting for me at home when I got there.
Featured are two Yorks 60. One of them what I believe to be the oldest version of the York from around WW2. It has some battle scares, which add to the character.
Wilton from the same era looks too suspiciously similar including the collar, LOL!
Featured are two Yorks 60. One of them what I believe to be the oldest version of the York from around WW2. It has some battle scares, which add to the character.
Wilton from the same era looks too suspiciously similar including the collar, LOL!
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KMScott
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Very interesting York 60 you have Honza. Really can see where Hugh W. Vogl got his design from. Nice vise Honza.
59 degrees here at home, not rubbing it in guys.
59 degrees here at home, not rubbing it in guys.
honza.vosalik
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I'd say he took one of those vises with him, lol.
Here's a view of the guide, on the top is the old version, which Wilton uses till today. York changed it later on.
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Howdy fellow vise fans. I just finished a clean up on this Fulton Machine & Vise Co. vise that has some neat pipe jaw inserts. These were manufactured in Lowville, NY, which is not far from my hometown of Watertown. I was pretty excited to get my hands on this one given its good condition and its birthplace.
The only real trouble I had with this clean up was removing the three busted set screws that hold the pipe jaws in place. All three were broken, and one required drilling out. I was able to extract it without damaging the threads in the vise casting so I consider that a real win.
I had some help form some GJ members when it came to figuring out how the main nut was captured. Shout-out to va.grouseman and MayerMR for the help! What a great community we have here.
Below is a link to the video I made of the project for those who may be interested.
I'm just starting to share my tool rescue projects on YouTube so if you like this sort of thing, I'd be thrilled if you checked out some of my projects. Feel free to leave comments with feedback and constructive criticism. Thanks for looking!
The only real trouble I had with this clean up was removing the three busted set screws that hold the pipe jaws in place. All three were broken, and one required drilling out. I was able to extract it without damaging the threads in the vise casting so I consider that a real win.
I had some help form some GJ members when it came to figuring out how the main nut was captured. Shout-out to va.grouseman and MayerMR for the help! What a great community we have here.
Below is a link to the video I made of the project for those who may be interested.
I'm just starting to share my tool rescue projects on YouTube so if you like this sort of thing, I'd be thrilled if you checked out some of my projects. Feel free to leave comments with feedback and constructive criticism. Thanks for looking!
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honza.vosalik
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Interesting enough recently I saw pictures of a ~1945 York couple days ago and it also had these horizontal shaped jaws!
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Wiltonviseparts.net
Our very own Kevin Scott custom builds and machines everything you'll find for sale there.
http://www.wiltonviseparts.net/
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Mr. Wonderful
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Ecotec,
I saw this on the garage sale thread. I am trying to salvage a very beat up 9450. If it turns out that It can't be saved I will make you a "you ****" deal on the swivel base, lock ring, and dust cap if you're interested.
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Picked up this CMAN 5169 off the local marketplace this evening
Was unsure about it at first but it turns out it’s a very nice vise, buttery smooth and solid for its size.
The jaws aren’t the greatest. Most of the knurling has worn smooth. Slides in and out amazingly well for its age. Best guess is these were made late 40’s to early 50’s
Would love to tear it down and do a resto on it but it might just be a clean up and use situation
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Was unsure about it at first but it turns out it’s a very nice vise, buttery smooth and solid for its size.
The jaws aren’t the greatest. Most of the knurling has worn smooth. Slides in and out amazingly well for its age. Best guess is these were made late 40’s to early 50’s
Would love to tear it down and do a resto on it but it might just be a clean up and use situation
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Debating right now... Sold the 24X Chas Parker I bought for what I had into it. I'm left with the 288 1/2 (back) that someone has offered me $100 more than I paid for. This thing is mint but missing pipe jaws... Not sure if I should keep or sell for $300. Thoughts?
If I keep I'd likely spend a ton of hours restoring and then hate to use it afterwards.
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If I keep I'd likely spend a ton of hours restoring and then hate to use it afterwards.
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Shiftless
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Do you have room for a display shelf?
If so, I’d keep it, restore to the best of your abilities and have it around to admire.
You can always get another user vise.
If you need the $300 for pressing bills or something else, the above advice does not apply.
If so, I’d keep it, restore to the best of your abilities and have it around to admire.
You can always get another user vise.
If you need the $300 for pressing bills or something else, the above advice does not apply.
I do have space on shelving but will ultimately hear the wife nag about my tool hoarding lol.
I just noticed the Yost 33C pipe jaws may fit since that vise is heavily based on the 288 1/2. I may order the jaws and try. Buyer wants to come by Saturday and pick up.
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PacificaVette
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It's called a "drag link socket". Get the biggest one you can find.
Shiftless
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Keep track of what you buy and sell them for and show her that your vise trading hobby/business is showing a fantastic profit. That should help justify the space that a few vises occupy.
mike_paxton
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Was checking Marketplace this afternoon and saw an ad with some items on a bench which included a vise.
Vise turned out to be a Wilton 9145 Cadet
Some before/after pics.
Mike
Vise turned out to be a Wilton 9145 Cadet
Some before/after pics.
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Shiftless
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Nice one Mike.
You got that one cleaned up in record time too.
I have the smaller Cadet (9135) and am looking for a 9145
Side note: The made in India “Taskmaster” vise is almost identical to your Wilton Cadet.
You got that one cleaned up in record time too.
I have the smaller Cadet (9135) and am looking for a 9145
Side note: The made in India “Taskmaster” vise is almost identical to your Wilton Cadet.
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Nice one Mike.
You got that one cleaned up in record time too.
I have the smaller Cadet (9135) and am looking for a 9145
Side note: The made in India “Taskmaster” vise is almost identical to your Wilton Cadet.
Shiftless:
Thks for info on the Taskmaster vises and will keep an eye out for them.
BTW, have you ever came across a Handy Anvil? This one that picked up with the vise is well worn, beat up and not high quality, but I can't seem to find anything on the MFG or the time period it was made.
Will attach couple pics.
Mike
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Private Lugnutz
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If you're curious, Mike, this was an era (for a few years in the mid-50's) when the Cadets had a 1-year guarantee, so your vise was likely made in 1954.
Private Lugnutz
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I'm not an anvil collector, but if that is the actual price forged into the base, and doesn't mean something esoteric to anvils that I am unaware of (it can't be weight), it would definitely help you with time period. I would guess mid to late 1800's at the latest.
I love that entire marking. Good eye.
Maui
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I just picked up this older Reed vise last night for $80. It has the original wing nut on the end, but it is missing the pipe jaws. The jaws measure 5” across and I would estimate the weight to be in the neighborhood of 100 lbs. It appears to be in good shape, and I think that it may even have the original paint.
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Shiftless
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Maui:
Nice find!
Without seeing the side view of the bottom wing nut I can’t say for sure, but from the photo it looks like steel.
Those old fancy wing nuts are hard to find. I’m sure most of them were hit with hammers, broken and discarded long ago.
The only original cast wing nut I have in my collection is this one on my Prentiss Monarch. I have a through the bench swivel Reed like yours but sadly, the wing nut was missing when I pulled it out of the dumpster. Yes, one of my neighbors was cleaning out a relatives house to put it up for sale and tossed the old guy’s dilapidated workbench and his rusty old Reed.
(Yeah, I know, I have to get something besides that stack of new washers for this display...)
Nice find!
Without seeing the side view of the bottom wing nut I can’t say for sure, but from the photo it looks like steel.
Those old fancy wing nuts are hard to find. I’m sure most of them were hit with hammers, broken and discarded long ago.
The only original cast wing nut I have in my collection is this one on my Prentiss Monarch. I have a through the bench swivel Reed like yours but sadly, the wing nut was missing when I pulled it out of the dumpster. Yes, one of my neighbors was cleaning out a relatives house to put it up for sale and tossed the old guy’s dilapidated workbench and his rusty old Reed.
(Yeah, I know, I have to get something besides that stack of new washers for this display...)
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KMScott
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Shift you have a nice way of storing vises. I bet you have a bunch by now.
Shiftless
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Thanks KMS a couple of yours are on my shelves.
I need to straighten up a bit (no...more than a bit) and take more pics for an updated record of my collection. Here is an old pic of my main shelf system for the benefit of the newer members who haven’t skimmed this thread’s back pages.
(I built all of this in a basement room. Guys: I don’t recommend building something like this in your main living area unless you are single and plan to stay that way.
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Mr. Wonderful
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Thanks KMS a couple of yours are on my shelves.
I need to straighten up a bit (no...more than a bit) and take more pics for an updated record of my collection. Here is an old pic of my main shelf system for the benefit of the newer members who haven’t skimmed this thread’s back pages.
(I built all of this in a basement room. Guys: I don’t recommend building something like this in your main living area unless you are single and plan to stay that way.
Shift, that looks great! How thick is your shelf material???? I am looking to do something similar in my garage.
Shiftless
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Thanks Mr.W.:
I used 3/4 inch MDF strengthened by fir 1x2s glued and pin nailed to the front. No sag after many years. The key is to keep the horizontal spans short. My longest span is just 24 inches. It’s best to dado the sides to accept the shelf pieces. You have to dado if you’re building a unit of more than one single array like my triple unit. (Unless you offset the vertical spacing) There are special screws designed to use with MDF. I built another unit, with face frames but without dadoes just glued and screwed. It seems plenty strong.
I like the 3/4 inch MDF with white melamine face on both sides. The melamine makes a VERY durable surface for storage and display of bench vises!
It is paintable if you lightly sand and use the right primer.
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Maui
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Shiftless, thanks! This is the first through-the-bench style vise that I’ve bought, and it looks like everything is there with the exception of the pipe jaws. I’ve attached a close-up of the wing nut. Do you think it looks original? The vise is a number 33 if I read it correctly. I’ve never heard of this model before.
Like those shelves! I’ve got to figure out something similar for my basement.
Maui
Like those shelves! I’ve got to figure out something similar for my basement.
Maui
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Shiftless
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Maui:
I bet that you do have the original wingnut.
Here is a before and after pic of my Reed 31 showing the shape of the pipe jaws you are missing.
I have the threaded post and the above bench mounting plate (are you missing that piece?) but no wingnut or bottom washer.
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I bet that you do have the original wingnut.
Here is a before and after pic of my Reed 31 showing the shape of the pipe jaws you are missing.
I have the threaded post and the above bench mounting plate (are you missing that piece?) but no wingnut or bottom washer.
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Maui
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Yep, it looks like I’m missing the above bench mounting plate. I was afraid something else might not be there. Thanks for the view of the pipe jaws. I’m sure I can machine a set, but it may be time consuming.
Very nice shift, but I think you have a bunch of biggees you're not showing us!
Thrumcap
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Here’s a late model Parker 474 rotating vise that appeared in my neighborhood. No damage and both wrenches! It will need a better paint job.
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Outlawmws
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Oh, yousuck on the 474!