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Jjcot

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I just buy a Skil Bench Grinder #617. Anybody have a manual, replacment part list, drawing etc? Thanks in advance
 
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Craftsman 1/3 hp bench grinder 257.191300 with plastic housing. I bought it from a neighbor who retired and moved to a condo. I don't know what year it is but, it has served well for many years. When I grow up I want one of the older metal housings maybe a 3/4 or 1 hp!
 

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Just picked this up for $80. Stanley 1/3 hp pedestal grinder.

The good: It runs. Pedestal all there, plus a bonus steel plate base. Very heavy, very stable.

The bad: Missing 1 side guard, eye shields, ground plug, and quench cup. Tool rests are functional but not original.
 

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Outlawmws

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Dave, Nice find! The side guard will be at least easy to ID with the exhaust port segment. But we don't see a lot of these grinders, so probably rare.

The other option is to relegate it to WW and/or Polish wheels.

Interesting that the cup holder is built into the stand. It should not be hard to find something (disposable?) to fit.
 

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Dave, Nice find! The side guard will be at least easy to ID with the exhaust port segment. But we don't see a lot of these grinders, so probably rare.

The other option is to relegate it to WW and/or Polish wheels.

Interesting that the cup holder is built into the stand. It should not be hard to find something (disposable?) to fit.

Outlaw, Did some digging. The 677 was sold by Stanley as a dedicated grinder for sharpening blades and chisels. It was supposed to have a blade sharpening attachment on the right tool rest. It also spins at 1725 rpm, about half of a normal bench grinder.

Also supposed to have the sweet illuminated eye shields which are gone too.

The wheel guard actually has Stanley cast into it. Might make it easier to find, or like you said, might put a wire wheel on that side.

Here is a complete example I found on a google search.
 

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Just picked this up for $80. Stanley 1/3 hp pedestal grinder.

The good: It runs. Pedestal all there, plus a bonus steel plate base. Very heavy, very stable.

The bad: Missing 1 side guard, eye shields, ground plug, and quench cup. Tool rests are functional but not original.

Looks like a Kingston Conley grinder. They made grinders for stanley and a lot of other manufacturers. Here is a link to owwm.com that has history, manuals and photos.

http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=1993

Knowing the other brands names they sold under may make your parts search easier.
 

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Interesting that it is half speed - 6" wheels? If 8" I'd sort of expect half speed...

Though somewhat rare, Rockwell's 7-inch grinder was offered with the slow speed option. I owned one of those and it took forever to grind anything on it. Much easier to use a normal 3450 rev grinder and use a friable wheel to minimize heat buildup during sharpening.
 

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Though somewhat rare, Rockwell's 7-inch grinder was offered with the slow speed option. I owned one of those and it took forever to grind anything on it. Much easier to use a normal 3450 rev grinder and use a friable wheel to minimize heat buildup during sharpening.

Agreed! I have a Rockwell 7” running at 1725RPM. I use it for fine wire wheeling and light buffing. Some people swear by low rpm for sharpening, heat and all that. People get into their own sharpening systems, multiple options and setups. I tried using it for sharpening in different ways, but could never quite get the right juju. One person’s sharpening system is another’s nightmare.

I kept it (really bought it for the pedestal), works well for how I’ve purposed it.

For sharpening I stick with my Japanese water stones.

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Hello,
I’m new to this forum and not sure how to post stuff so I apologize if I’m doing this wrong.
I have an old bench grinder of my grandpa’s that I am restoring.
Unfortunately I did not take pictures as a whole,but only after I started tearing it down. The only name I can find on it is Select.
I also have the model number tag and the voltage wiring tag. I tried to research the company that is on it with no luck. But I can find nothing on this on the company in California or anything else. Any help or information would be greatly apreciated
thank you-
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Hello,
I’m new to this forum and not sure how to post stuff so I apologize if I’m doing this wrong.
I have an old bench grinder of my grandpa’s that I am restoring.
Unfortunately I did not take pictures as a whole,but only after I started tearing it down. The only name I can find on it is Select.
I also have the model number tag and the voltage wiring tag. I tried to research the company that is on it with no luck. But I can find nothing on this on the company in California or anything else. Any help or information would be greatly apreciated
thank you-
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Here is as far as I've gotten. I have the guards sanded down and will forward picture in a bit.I have tried to look up this grinder by name,manufacturer and serial number with no results. Thanks for getting back to me.
 

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Here is as far as I've gotten. I have the guards sanded down and will forward picture in a bit.I have tried to look up this grinder by name,manufacturer and serial number with no results. Thanks for getting back to me.

Looks like a Taiwanese-made grinder from the 80's: pull type power switch, very heavy, smooth shape. Many thousands were imported and private labeled. Familar brands were "Buffalo", and "Enco".
 

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Looks like a Taiwanese-made grinder from the 80's: pull type power switch, very heavy, smooth shape. Many thousands were imported and private labeled. Familar brands were "Buffalo", and "Enco".


+1

Judging by the switch alone definitely off-shore.


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jsebay02

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Hello,
I'm helping my grandmother sell my grandfather's old tools and machinery. I've been trying to research these two grinder/buffers, but they are so old I don't think these brands exist anymore. In the first picture, can anyone help me identify the brandname? And any other advice would be super helpful.
Thank you!
 

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Outlawmws

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The "Power" one is fairly modern made in China. Brands mean nothing when from China. It is at least a "made for buffing" tool.

The other is simply a motor - probably US made - with arbors added, its not a "built for buffing" machine so the motor may be severely worn from decades of use, and stuff getting sucked inside.
 

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Recently picked up the Baldor and the Rockwell Delta. I found the Wissota at a consignment auction some years ago with a belt driven model for $25 together. The Baldor had to be reassembled after some knucklehead installed the arbor backward. The Rockwell is actually a Marathon three phase. Now running with a VFD. The frangible wheel on the Baldor has been replaced with a soft wire brush.
 

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Got this yesterday for free. There are no markings on this grinder. Any ideas who made it?
 

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I found this Black and Decker No. 83, 1 HP 10" grinder at an estate sale Thursday. It came with four new wheels (and they added another when I went back Saturday) and it runs very smoothly. It takes forever to spin down after you turn it off.

The tool rests, spark guards, and eye shields are missing. I can make the spark guards easily, the tool rests with some work, and modify some extra eye shields that I have sitting around.

It is a monster, but runs on 120V power, consuming 13 amps!

The red tag has the date 8/8/63.
 

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Fully retired so I finally refurbished this Milwaukee model 1040 grinder. 3/4 hp, 8-inch wheels, and runs silky smooth. Made by Doerr about 50 years ago or so. Cast iron rests so even zkling will approve. Weighs a hefty 54 lbs and is a pleasure to use.
 

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I found this Black and Decker No. 83, 1 HP 10" grinder at an estate sale Thursday. It came with four new wheels (and they added another when I went back Saturday) and it runs very smoothly. It takes forever to spin down after you turn it off.

The tool rests, spark guards, and eye shields are missing. I can make the spark guards easily, the tool rests with some work, and modify some extra eye shields that I have sitting around.

It is a monster, but runs on 120V power, consuming 13 amps!

The red tag has the date 8/8/63.


A true beast of a grinder, nice score. Sounds like new bearings are in the offing. Take care with that switch if you are going to work on it, they are few and far between. You’ll never need another grinder!

What am I saying, of course you’ll need another grinder. Why change stones when you can add a grinder . . . :)

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Isaiah6113

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Fully retired so I finally refurbished this Milwaukee model 1040 grinder. 3/4 hp, 8-inch wheels, and runs silky smooth. Made by Doerr about 50 years ago or so. Cast iron rests so even zkling will approve. Weighs a hefty 54 lbs and is a pleasure to use.


Beautiful job. Those Doerrs are workhorses, they were badged for multiple brands; tried, tested, and true.

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Both the Milwaukee and the B&D are beasts!

Matthew, I have that approach to the 4 or 4-1/2" mini grinders. I find I use those 98% of the time (leaving wire wheeling out of it) I'm up to 8 if I haven't lost count...
 

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My Grand-dad made this, probably in the 40's. He was a very gifted mechanic and during WW2 He was in charge of a group of German POWS, who He supervised as they rebuilt Tank and vehcile engines. He was also a shop foreman for IH and FARMALL, and often worked on Indians, and Harleys. I used to play with this as a kid, grinding 16 penny nails to make knives, and gerally getting in the way. I inherited all His tools and couldnt bring Myself to toss this. I cut off the old black and white cotton covered cord, so I wouldnt be tempted to plug it in. I may need a new belt, too.

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That's really a cool story, Bronson ! :thumbup: :cool:
We've got one like this that I think is in working order. But I'll have to drag it out from under an old workbench. It belonged to my wife's dad, who was a German soldier!

And also a dual wheel bench grinder — that I think was installed in the early 1960's, but at an Aunts' house we have in probate, so I'll have to take a pic t'morrow or next.

My apologies, Outlawmws, as I didn't mean to post-over your recent post.
 
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Picked this up Brown-Brockmeyer grinder yesterday. If anyone knows where to get parts please let me know.
 

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Picked this up Brown-Brockmeyer grinder yesterday.
Nice find. They had good wartime cred. While the "Order No." doesn't match the ORD contract number in the WPB Major War Supply Contracts records, and I am tempted to read the "33" as 1933, it looks like there's an Army-Navy part number at the end of the "Type" field. I don't think those were established until wartime.

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I found this Black and Decker No. 83, 1 HP 10" grinder at an estate sale Thursday.

That's a 1750 rpm motor, right? With those worn wheels (which look to be around 6-inch or less) it must take forever to grind. Should be much better with 10-inch wheels, and a real workhorse. :thumbup:
 

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One is worn, the other right at 10 inch. I got four new wheels with the grinder, so the worn one isn't an issue!

Edit: The catalog says 1800 RPM.

I got it mounted on a stand that I found last weekend. I'll try to post photos soon.
 
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Here is a photo of the B&D grinder on the stand. Also a photo of the labels on the grinder.
 

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A custom-made portable vintage bench grinder w/ancient cord. But it still runs! Varoooooooom ! :)
Probably used for lawn mower blades & gardening tools.
 

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Michaelj

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Hi All

New here and would love to tap into your knowledge!

Picked-up a Millers Falls 1/4 HP bench grinder yesterday - not see many here in South Africa! loads of English ones but very few US.

Just had to have her! needs some work but still runs well!

Could anyone date the grinder for me? any info would be great !

Thanks!

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Hi Michael, I can't read the S/N; that often has a date code embedded. can you type it out?

I think its made for M/F by someone else, and Wissota may be a candidate?
 
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