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How can I remove the base support of the handle holder from the jack? It has 2 shafts that need to be removed. Ideas appreciated, thanks
 
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I'm not really familiar with the SJ2, but if the pins don't press out, you may have to loose one of the side plates so that there's clearance, and honestly, that's probably what I would do.

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You're referring to the yoke.

The two "shafts" are held in place with two drive pins, #8 in the diagram linked below. The pins should be driven in from the front of the yoke, so you'll need to drive them out from the back.

So, did HPS have the part for the release valve?

It might be better if you post in the original thread and keep everything regarding this jack in one place.

https://www.hcrcnow.com/uploads/drawings/sears727.12102.pdf
 
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Thanks for response. As you state it is the drive pins that need to be removed. If I understand they need to be driven out from the inside of the yoke correct? I did buy a replacement have installed and is working well. The jack raises minimally with each stroke of the handle I assume this is normal. thanks again
 

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There are two kinds of pins in play here - the large ones the yoke pivots on and two that are smaller in diameter that secure the large ones. The two smaller ones run transverse to the larger ones. The heads should be visible on the front side of the yoke. You'll need to drive the smaller pins out from the back towards the front. Then you can tap the larger pins inward and remove the yoke.
 
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Wow . I understand now thanks for clarifying. I have another issue with the jack. I did a quick test with it when first getting it. It would lift the vehicle but I did not realize that it was slowing descending at the same time. I do not see any fluid leaking. Suggestions appreciated, thanks
 
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When it does this, does the handle try to rise as the vehicle descends?

To answer your other question - I think my SJ2 takes about 20 pumps to reach full height.
 
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No the handle does not rise when descending. The descent is not as bad as mentioned earlier but still slow. Thanks
 

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So you're able to raise the vehicle, but then it descends slowly? If that's the case, the two most likely culprits are the release valve not holding pressure or the piston cup on the ram is worn.
 

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Was thinking about this - the broken release assembly; that's from someone cranking on it, probably because it wasn't holding the load. So, this issue probably has existed for some time.
 
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I now realize that the release valve assembly is leaking fluid. Is there an O ring that needs replacing inside? Thanks
 
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If you unscrew the release valve, then unscrew the nut that it threads into, you'll find a rubber packing that keeps the fluid in. Other than that, the nut itself could be leaking where it threads into the hydraulic block, but it should be easy to tell where the leak is.

Here's the diagram, #15 is what you're after: https://www.hcrcnow.com/uploads/drawings/Blackhawk_SJ-2_Service_Jack_1.25_Ton.pdf
So what happened to the Walker - the 2nd one?
 
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I am still using the walker 93642 its a 2.5 ton jack, I was hoping to take the handle support off to do some cleaning but I am unable to remove the pins holding the dials in place. thanks for the help. May need to pick up a kit
 
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I was replying to a question the responder had. I started this thread . Is it possible to hijack your own thread?
 
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THe fluid only drains when the valve is released. Is it possible I have too much fluid in it? I did fill just until it covers the internal cylinder? thanks
 

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THe fluid only drains when the valve is released. Is it possible I have too much fluid in it? I did fill just until it covers the internal cylinder? thanks

That's because when the valve is released, the fluid, which is under pressure, has only two places to go - either back to the reservoir or to the outside world through a compromised seal. It sounds like your fluid level is fine.
 
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thanks will pick up a kit. The saddle has 2 shafts holding it to the jack does the upper shaft slide out? It is in very tight. What do you guys use to remove the dial pins that are through the handle support ? the 1/4 inch transverse pins? I tried an old drill bit the drive them out but they are in very tightly as well, thanks
 

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After removing the two retaining rings, the upper shaft should slide out - you may have to "persuade" it a bit.

I think you mean "dowel" pins? On my jack, they're actually splined pins with a head. They need to be driven from the back of the handle yoke towards the front - at least on mine. You should be able to see/feel the head of the pin on the front side of the yoke to confirm. They appear to be about 1/8" in diameter, so an 1/8" pin punch should do it.
 

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I just measured a pin from my parts jack - they're 3/16" in diameter and you'll want a 5/32" pin punch. The parts list refers to these as drive pins.
 

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thanks will pick up a kit. The saddle has 2 shafts holding it to the jack does the upper shaft slide out? It is in very tight. What do you guys use to remove the dial pins that are through the handle support ? the 1/4 inch transverse pins? I tried an old drill bit the drive them out but they are in very tightly as well, thanks
Here is a picture of a genuine Blackhawk kit for sj2, sj3 rebuilt. I bought it from the dealer 4 years ago but was not able to use it for the rebuilt. Anyone interested please PM me.View attachment 1040781
 
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yes you did you sold me what was left in the kit as it was incomplete. I left feedback but the thread regarding your deceptive selling practices was removed.
 
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