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abstamaria
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A Philippine concours through U.S. eyes
Dear all,
Here is the YouTube link to Barry Meguiar's "Car Crazy" episode on the concours I mentuioned earlier, shown on U.S. TV earlier this month. I have posted this to give you also a glimpse into the car hobby here. Barry - a really nice guy - said car guys are the same the world over, and I believe he's right. I hope you enjoy this (the only link to the forum is that the Stratos from my garage is featured here briefly!).
Andres
Dear all,
Here is the YouTube link to Barry Meguiar's "Car Crazy" episode on the concours I mentuioned earlier, shown on U.S. TV earlier this month. I have posted this to give you also a glimpse into the car hobby here. Barry - a really nice guy - said car guys are the same the world over, and I believe he's right. I hope you enjoy this (the only link to the forum is that the Stratos from my garage is featured here briefly!).
Andres
Brian R
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Andres,
I watch this show occassionally but missed this - thanks for posting. You, your car and the Philippines car culture all look great!
Curious that they said this was the first year open to the public and then great to hear that many of the cars are restored and cared for by families.
Regards,
Brian
I watch this show occassionally but missed this - thanks for posting. You, your car and the Philippines car culture all look great!
Curious that they said this was the first year open to the public and then great to hear that many of the cars are restored and cared for by families.
Regards,
Brian
jimmie jam
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Great link! Thanks for sharing - what a show!!!!
Hottrod
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Thank you Andres, for sharing your collection with GJ - your garage, collection, and home are just awesome in every way!
Forgive me if I missed this in reading through your posts, but I'm wondering what type of epoxy you went with? The porcelain tiles are really nice, but I'm leaning towards a 100% solids white epoxy for my (currently in-construction) 3-car garage, and I noticed your floor is especially white, and very glossy, which looks great. Is it slippery or do you have a grip agent added? It seems you've used a topcoat, correct? Do the tyres leave any marks on the epoxy? My garage will be used for daily drivers - If you were to do the epoxy again, would you go with the white or a light grey in order to hide the dirt?
I'd be most grateful for your input, thanks again for sharing!
Regards,
Rodney
Forgive me if I missed this in reading through your posts, but I'm wondering what type of epoxy you went with? The porcelain tiles are really nice, but I'm leaning towards a 100% solids white epoxy for my (currently in-construction) 3-car garage, and I noticed your floor is especially white, and very glossy, which looks great. Is it slippery or do you have a grip agent added? It seems you've used a topcoat, correct? Do the tyres leave any marks on the epoxy? My garage will be used for daily drivers - If you were to do the epoxy again, would you go with the white or a light grey in order to hide the dirt?
I'd be most grateful for your input, thanks again for sharing!
Regards,
Rodney
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Concours here.
Thanks, Brian, Jimmie. I hope the TV show puts the old car hobby here in good light. I wanted to share it with you.
The previous three concours were held outdoors, on the lawns of a very nice hotel by the bay. The shows were open to the public, but the hotel was a bit out of the way, so Barry might have misunderstood. I have attached pictures, including preparations for the award dinner, from the 3rd show.
This 4th concours was the first indoors and at a venue geared for handling large crowds. So it was the first time for many in the public to see a concours.
Yes, what struck me too, watching this Car Crazy episode, was that many spoke about the interest being nurtured in families. Many old cars are really cared for and looked after here, which is good. I hope the younger generations follow through.
Andy
Thanks, Brian, Jimmie. I hope the TV show puts the old car hobby here in good light. I wanted to share it with you.
The previous three concours were held outdoors, on the lawns of a very nice hotel by the bay. The shows were open to the public, but the hotel was a bit out of the way, so Barry might have misunderstood. I have attached pictures, including preparations for the award dinner, from the 3rd show.
This 4th concours was the first indoors and at a venue geared for handling large crowds. So it was the first time for many in the public to see a concours.
Yes, what struck me too, watching this Car Crazy episode, was that many spoke about the interest being nurtured in families. Many old cars are really cared for and looked after here, which is good. I hope the younger generations follow through.
Andy
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Red Leader
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Andy,
I don't know why it took me as long as it did to find/post in your thread, but wow. Beautiful. Clean. Elegant.
Fantastic garage. Love it! Its nice to know that it gets used, and for some pretty cool toys.
5-rating well deserved
I don't know why it took me as long as it did to find/post in your thread, but wow. Beautiful. Clean. Elegant.
Fantastic garage. Love it! Its nice to know that it gets used, and for some pretty cool toys.
5-rating well deserved
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abstamaria
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Hello, Rodney,
The epoxy floor I used was manufactured locally, used for power plants and other industrial applications, but it should be similar to those available in the U.S. The new floor needed a topcoat because of problems we had with the first application. Usually, a top coat shouldn't be necessary. The epoxy floor we laid in my old workshop was a single application and also quite glossy, if not as white. We had no grip agent added, but the floor is not especially slippery. Tires don't leave marks.
As you might have noted, we used grey in the separate two-car garage, for the daily drivers. The difference in overall brightness is remarkable, so white wins there over grey. White is not more difficult to keep clean than grey, I noticed. Sometimes white looks cleaner, in fact.
The problem with epoxy is that it will yellow with sunlight. That is why on boats, the general recommendation is polyurethane for the deck rather than epoxy.
Since you are still constructing, read Jack Olsen's 12-gauge garage thread again. He makes a very good case for ceramic tiles. They are easier to install, won't fade or yellow, take wear well, and, if you chip a tile, you can replace just the tile. Lamborghini, BMW, and others specify tiles for their dealer repair areas. There is also a good discussion on tile vs epoxy in the floor section. If I had to do the floor all over again, I would probably go with tile.
You're in the fun part. Enjoy, and keep us posted. Do you have a thread? It will be great to see one from Trinidad. Good luck.
Andy
The epoxy floor I used was manufactured locally, used for power plants and other industrial applications, but it should be similar to those available in the U.S. The new floor needed a topcoat because of problems we had with the first application. Usually, a top coat shouldn't be necessary. The epoxy floor we laid in my old workshop was a single application and also quite glossy, if not as white. We had no grip agent added, but the floor is not especially slippery. Tires don't leave marks.
As you might have noted, we used grey in the separate two-car garage, for the daily drivers. The difference in overall brightness is remarkable, so white wins there over grey. White is not more difficult to keep clean than grey, I noticed. Sometimes white looks cleaner, in fact.
The problem with epoxy is that it will yellow with sunlight. That is why on boats, the general recommendation is polyurethane for the deck rather than epoxy.
Since you are still constructing, read Jack Olsen's 12-gauge garage thread again. He makes a very good case for ceramic tiles. They are easier to install, won't fade or yellow, take wear well, and, if you chip a tile, you can replace just the tile. Lamborghini, BMW, and others specify tiles for their dealer repair areas. There is also a good discussion on tile vs epoxy in the floor section. If I had to do the floor all over again, I would probably go with tile.
You're in the fun part. Enjoy, and keep us posted. Do you have a thread? It will be great to see one from Trinidad. Good luck.
Andy
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abstamaria
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Thank you, Red Leader. i am glad you like the garage. I am fascinated by your build. A great thread. You are a man of many skills; I am envious!
My best,
Andy
My best,
Andy
jimmie jam
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Andy, the outdoor location looks like Palm Beach here. What a fantastic venue...too bad it was out of the way for the public. I'm at the point in my garage build that I have to make a choise between epoxy or tile, even though I paid three times as much to have the floor finished so it would be "perfect" for epoxy. I'll take your comment about the "tile" and make sure that I give it careful consideration. Thanks again!
max2919
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Do I dear to ask of more pic's of you house interior. I need insperation for my house that I'm building. Staircase, bathroom(s) and restoroom(s) is where I need insperation.
Thanks.
/Max
Thanks.
/Max
Hottrod
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Many, many thanks Andy for this most comprehensive reply - there's nothing like a little hindsight to clear the air!!
My leaning towards epoxy was largely because it is a contiguous surface and thus there are no grooves to catch dirt, no grout to get discoloured, and cleaning is a breeze.
With my having two young kids, the ability to integrate anti-slip IN the surface was also a plus, and of course it looks good, but I do appreciate that tiles allow you to replace a section invisibly, are durable, and relatively cheap. I suppose if I opted to use tile I could use a dark grout and perhaps a rectified edge tile so minimise the groutlines... hmmmm.
One thing I didn't realise was that the epoxy would yellow in the sun over time, so thanks for pointing that out! I suppose this not be as much of an issue if I used light grey instead of white, but it does make the decision a little more tricky. The problem is, I want as much light in the garage as possible to help with detailing, and a white floor would make a ton of difference in this regard.
Will review Jack's thread as you suggested, and will give the tile option another think. Decisions, decisions!
One last question – the garage will have a concrete roof with reinforced concrete beams, and I’d initially planned to put a flat gypsum ceiling throughout, but I noticed that you’ve left your own exposed and painted in white. In hindsight, would you choose the exposed/painted option again?
I may just do a thread on the build, good idea!
My leaning towards epoxy was largely because it is a contiguous surface and thus there are no grooves to catch dirt, no grout to get discoloured, and cleaning is a breeze.
With my having two young kids, the ability to integrate anti-slip IN the surface was also a plus, and of course it looks good, but I do appreciate that tiles allow you to replace a section invisibly, are durable, and relatively cheap. I suppose if I opted to use tile I could use a dark grout and perhaps a rectified edge tile so minimise the groutlines... hmmmm.
One thing I didn't realise was that the epoxy would yellow in the sun over time, so thanks for pointing that out! I suppose this not be as much of an issue if I used light grey instead of white, but it does make the decision a little more tricky. The problem is, I want as much light in the garage as possible to help with detailing, and a white floor would make a ton of difference in this regard.
Will review Jack's thread as you suggested, and will give the tile option another think. Decisions, decisions!
One last question – the garage will have a concrete roof with reinforced concrete beams, and I’d initially planned to put a flat gypsum ceiling throughout, but I noticed that you’ve left your own exposed and painted in white. In hindsight, would you choose the exposed/painted option again?
I may just do a thread on the build, good idea!
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abstamaria
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Hello, Max. There are photos of the staircase in post #30 and of one of the bathrooms in #385. Bear in mind we used the foundations of an old house built for a family with seven children and rooms for nannies. Accordingly, we now only have four bedrooms, so the master bathrooms are not small. They incorporate the closets and dressing areas, though. I will try to get some photos for you. Andy
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abstamaria
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Hello, Jimmie. At your level of surface preparation, it is tempting to opt for epoxy. It is a difficult choice, as both alternatives have advantages.
HottRod, the short ramp leading to my two-car garage is painted the same light-grey epoxy as the inside, but is exposed to direct sun. It has yellowed visibly, abd the color difference between inside and outside areas is startling. I think it will depend on how much direct sun you wuill be getting. I agree completely with plenty of light indoors.
I would put a gypsum-board or similar ceiling only if I needed to cover insulation. It is quite warm here in the tropics, so that is critical. However, we installed a "green" roof over the cement slab, and the soil medium and plants on the roof act as insulation, so I could make do with an exposed ceiling. An exposed ceiling gives you added height, which is always good for our garages, especially if you intend to put a lift.
I hope this is helpful.
Best,
Andy
HottRod, the short ramp leading to my two-car garage is painted the same light-grey epoxy as the inside, but is exposed to direct sun. It has yellowed visibly, abd the color difference between inside and outside areas is startling. I think it will depend on how much direct sun you wuill be getting. I agree completely with plenty of light indoors.
I would put a gypsum-board or similar ceiling only if I needed to cover insulation. It is quite warm here in the tropics, so that is critical. However, we installed a "green" roof over the cement slab, and the soil medium and plants on the roof act as insulation, so I could make do with an exposed ceiling. An exposed ceiling gives you added height, which is always good for our garages, especially if you intend to put a lift.
I hope this is helpful.
Best,
Andy
Rich H.
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An awe inspring space, with a great collection.
I love the style.
Thank you for taking the time to post all the pictures and info.
It was nice to see the posts about band rehearsal too, as I'm a guitarist of many years myself and have always loved the old surf instrumentals. I've never had the chance to play any of that material live.
Take care and please keep the pictures coming!
You've helped convince me I really do not want a checkerboard floor, and that I might want to rethink hanging a 20 year collection of banners and pictures all over my shop when I finally get it done.
I love the style.
Thank you for taking the time to post all the pictures and info.
It was nice to see the posts about band rehearsal too, as I'm a guitarist of many years myself and have always loved the old surf instrumentals. I've never had the chance to play any of that material live.
Take care and please keep the pictures coming!
You've helped convince me I really do not want a checkerboard floor, and that I might want to rethink hanging a 20 year collection of banners and pictures all over my shop when I finally get it done.
Hottrod
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Thanks Andy, this info is hugely helpful!
The garage faces South, and because the house is near the top of a valley, the protection afforded by the hills directly to the East and West reduces the amount of direct sun, so whilst I may not get as much exposure, your experience has quickly convinced me to finish the short ramp in the same material as the driveway, with the transition in materials to the garage floor happening in line with the garage doors. That’s one less decision for me to make, thank you!
Regarding the gypsum ceiling, I'll see how the internal temperatures feel after the roof goes on - because of neighbourhood height restrictions, in order to get the highest ceilings I've opted for a flat concrete roof, over which a polyurethane foam will be sprayed to a thickness of 4", doing double-duty as a waterproofing membrane and as an insulator. The foam alone is expected to yield an R value of 24, which is pretty good, so we’ll see if the gypsum is needed or not, which will help us decide.
Using gypsum was more of an aesthetic consideration for me, until I saw how cool your exposed (and painted) slab looks! The extra height afforded by not having a ceiling is an excellent point, as down the line I may want a lift as you've mentioned, although I don’t think I’ll be too short on space with or without the ceiling – the height to the bottom of the roof slab (the beams are not positioned over the cars) is 10’ 11”, and if we were to go with the gypsum ceiling (which would sit against the underside of the beams) we’d have 10’ 1” to work with. Now you know why we went with the flat concrete roof!
Thanks again for your input!
Rodney
The garage faces South, and because the house is near the top of a valley, the protection afforded by the hills directly to the East and West reduces the amount of direct sun, so whilst I may not get as much exposure, your experience has quickly convinced me to finish the short ramp in the same material as the driveway, with the transition in materials to the garage floor happening in line with the garage doors. That’s one less decision for me to make, thank you!
Regarding the gypsum ceiling, I'll see how the internal temperatures feel after the roof goes on - because of neighbourhood height restrictions, in order to get the highest ceilings I've opted for a flat concrete roof, over which a polyurethane foam will be sprayed to a thickness of 4", doing double-duty as a waterproofing membrane and as an insulator. The foam alone is expected to yield an R value of 24, which is pretty good, so we’ll see if the gypsum is needed or not, which will help us decide.
Using gypsum was more of an aesthetic consideration for me, until I saw how cool your exposed (and painted) slab looks! The extra height afforded by not having a ceiling is an excellent point, as down the line I may want a lift as you've mentioned, although I don’t think I’ll be too short on space with or without the ceiling – the height to the bottom of the roof slab (the beams are not positioned over the cars) is 10’ 11”, and if we were to go with the gypsum ceiling (which would sit against the underside of the beams) we’d have 10’ 1” to work with. Now you know why we went with the flat concrete roof!
Thanks again for your input!
Rodney
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abstamaria
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Thank you, Rich. Since we moved the work area and the tool cabinets to the new garage, my old workshop is now more of a studio. We've been able to put the guitar amps on a rack, and this allows us to switch amps easily. I had a friend treat the room acoustically. I just play for fun, as I suspect you do.
A plain light-colored floor I think has a lot going for it; I wanted a checkerboard floor when I started iut, as all car guys do, but am finding that too busy now. The problem is what to do with the posters. I selected just two (cut-away pen&ink drawings of a Lotus 23 and a Lotus Elan) and hung these in the workshop bathroom.
Good luck on your build.
Andy
A plain light-colored floor I think has a lot going for it; I wanted a checkerboard floor when I started iut, as all car guys do, but am finding that too busy now. The problem is what to do with the posters. I selected just two (cut-away pen&ink drawings of a Lotus 23 and a Lotus Elan) and hung these in the workshop bathroom.
Good luck on your build.
Andy
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abstamaria
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It looks like you've planned your garage well, Rodney. I'd really like to see it, so a thread will be welcome. I've never seen polyurethane foam used like that; very interesting.
Good idea re the ramp to the garage.
That is a tall ceiling, so you are right; the only issue is style. I am sure you will make the right choice.
Best,
Andy
Good idea re the ramp to the garage.
That is a tall ceiling, so you are right; the only issue is style. I am sure you will make the right choice.
Best,
Andy
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abstamaria
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TYPHOON.
A typhoon with 150 kph winds passed north of Manila the other day, close enough to create unprecedented storm surges in Manila Bay. Alas, very large waves swept through the very area shown in the concours photo above, seen in this frightening mobile-phone video by a hotel guest. Waves of this size have never been seen before in the Bay.
http://www.youscoop.tv/scoop/61810/bagyong-pedring-sinalanta-ang-sofitel
A typhoon with 150 kph winds passed north of Manila the other day, close enough to create unprecedented storm surges in Manila Bay. Alas, very large waves swept through the very area shown in the concours photo above, seen in this frightening mobile-phone video by a hotel guest. Waves of this size have never been seen before in the Bay.
http://www.youscoop.tv/scoop/61810/bagyong-pedring-sinalanta-ang-sofitel
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abstamaria
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Thank you, shopnut. The typhoon did a great deal of damage, but my family was not affected directly. Another storm, at least at strong, is due this weekend, forecast to follow the same track. I pity the folk in the provinces North of Manila, still reeling from Tuesday's typhoon, no standing homes, crops devastated, fields flooded, without electricity, and now to be hit again. I hope the storm weakens or diverts to the sea.
Thank you again.
Andy
Thank you again.
Andy
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abstamaria
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American Classics in the Philippines
I apologize for yet another off-topic digression, but I wanted to show what the general Philippine car scene was like, for those of you who may never get to visit.
Here is the second segment of Car Crazy, just aired the other week on US TV. This focuses on "tuner" cars and, perhaps of more interest to the more senior members like myself, classic cars. Up to the late 60s, US cars dominated this market, so attachment to them remains strong. In this video, Barry Mequiar is visibly affected by memories brought back by a 1950 Chevy convertible. I hope you enjoy the show.
Andy
I apologize for yet another off-topic digression, but I wanted to show what the general Philippine car scene was like, for those of you who may never get to visit.
Here is the second segment of Car Crazy, just aired the other week on US TV. This focuses on "tuner" cars and, perhaps of more interest to the more senior members like myself, classic cars. Up to the late 60s, US cars dominated this market, so attachment to them remains strong. In this video, Barry Mequiar is visibly affected by memories brought back by a 1950 Chevy convertible. I hope you enjoy the show.
Andy
I just finished reading the whole thread and all i can say is wow..
It is great to finally see actual pictures of an impressive garage with an equally impressive collection of cars here in Manila. From your posts i suspect you live in the area down south where stories abound of where exotic cars are supposedly seen and heard.
It is also nice to see someone actually living in a minimalist house and garage (not just as a rest house), so it is indeed possible. As an architect i find it rare to find clients who specifically like pure minimalism as the basis for their home. Even rarer is someone who can actually live day to day in a minimalist way.
I guessed correct when you showed the picture on who designed your home, the only minimalist architect i know here in Manila and one of those whose works i get inspiration from.
Regarding your tool storage, did you get them all locally?
It is great to finally see actual pictures of an impressive garage with an equally impressive collection of cars here in Manila. From your posts i suspect you live in the area down south where stories abound of where exotic cars are supposedly seen and heard.
It is also nice to see someone actually living in a minimalist house and garage (not just as a rest house), so it is indeed possible. As an architect i find it rare to find clients who specifically like pure minimalism as the basis for their home. Even rarer is someone who can actually live day to day in a minimalist way.
I guessed correct when you showed the picture on who designed your home, the only minimalist architect i know here in Manila and one of those whose works i get inspiration from.
Regarding your tool storage, did you get them all locally?
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abstamaria
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Thanks, Moji. I'm happy you like the garage and house, particularly as you are an architect. I am sometimes tempted to do an article for the local architecture or living magazines called "Modern House Lived In," with the house not staged for photos, to show how a minimalist design has fared after almost 9 years of use. And, as you say, to show it is indeed possible to live in and maintain a minimalist setting. It does require some discipline, not buying stuff principally, but that in itself can be quite liberating.
Where that discipline is most tested is in the garage, as we garage guys do tend to accumulate. No tool has yet been invented that our lives don't depend on.
I will tell the architect you liked his work. His father is one of my favorites, too. Both of them are very focused modernists.
The tool cabinets are all Proto, except for one Snap-On, all acquired locally (but over many years) through the distributor. The work-bench is aluminum and from Moduline, imported from the U.S.
My best,
Andy
Where that discipline is most tested is in the garage, as we garage guys do tend to accumulate. No tool has yet been invented that our lives don't depend on.
I will tell the architect you liked his work. His father is one of my favorites, too. Both of them are very focused modernists.
The tool cabinets are all Proto, except for one Snap-On, all acquired locally (but over many years) through the distributor. The work-bench is aluminum and from Moduline, imported from the U.S.
My best,
Andy
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abstamaria
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Two-Post Lift Installation
I had struggled with various options for lifts. I wanted to be able to remove wheels easily, so narrowed my options to either a scissors-type or a 2-post. The scissors-type lifts, such as the Nussbaum Sprinter, were interesting, but in the end I decided they took up too much floor space and blocked too much of a car’s undercarriage. Ultimately, I settled on the MaxJax. It was small and seemed an easy install.
A critical part of installation was locating the posts, so that I spent some time laying out the lift points of the cars I wanted to lift on a large piece of cardboard. The suggestions of several GJ members were invaluable here. In the end, I decided on a 120" spread (measured from the rear of the base flanges). The allowed maximum is 130".
I had struggled with various options for lifts. I wanted to be able to remove wheels easily, so narrowed my options to either a scissors-type or a 2-post. The scissors-type lifts, such as the Nussbaum Sprinter, were interesting, but in the end I decided they took up too much floor space and blocked too much of a car’s undercarriage. Ultimately, I settled on the MaxJax. It was small and seemed an easy install.
A critical part of installation was locating the posts, so that I spent some time laying out the lift points of the cars I wanted to lift on a large piece of cardboard. The suggestions of several GJ members were invaluable here. In the end, I decided on a 120" spread (measured from the rear of the base flanges). The allowed maximum is 130".
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Installing Bolt Anchors
Each MaxJax column is held by 5 bolts that screw into Wej-it anchors. The anchors are hammered into holes drilled in the concrete and then are pulled up, wedging them in the holes.
I couldn't find the required 7/8" SDS bit, so, rather than buy a rotary-hammer SDS drill (there are no equipment hire companies here), I decided to contract out the drilling to a specialist. The contractor came (3 engineers and 2 crew), brought the right tools, including a wire brush and air pump for cleaning out the holes, and did the job quickly.
To be honest, I was reluctant to do the job myself on my nice new epoxy-finished floor, afraid of the wandering bits and off-center holes that plagued some of the installs described in the MaxJax thread in the General section. The contractor’s holes were drilled exactly concentric with those in the lift’s base plates, as shown in the photo below. I hope the anchors hold!
Each MaxJax column is held by 5 bolts that screw into Wej-it anchors. The anchors are hammered into holes drilled in the concrete and then are pulled up, wedging them in the holes.
I couldn't find the required 7/8" SDS bit, so, rather than buy a rotary-hammer SDS drill (there are no equipment hire companies here), I decided to contract out the drilling to a specialist. The contractor came (3 engineers and 2 crew), brought the right tools, including a wire brush and air pump for cleaning out the holes, and did the job quickly.
To be honest, I was reluctant to do the job myself on my nice new epoxy-finished floor, afraid of the wandering bits and off-center holes that plagued some of the installs described in the MaxJax thread in the General section. The contractor’s holes were drilled exactly concentric with those in the lift’s base plates, as shown in the photo below. I hope the anchors hold!
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Red MaxJax
I torqued the mounting bolts to 75 lbs-ft and then removed the bolts and columns to inspect the anchors. They seemed all right, so I torqued the volts down again and lifted our Honda CRV, a small SUV, on it, with no apparent problems. When the rains stop, I’ll try one of the older sports cars I intended the lift for.
Here are the columns, as installed. I didn’t want to add to the colors in the garage and so removed the stickers on the MaxJax (I hope this doesn’t invalidate the warrantee and isn’t illegal) and stayed with the red color already in the garage. I hope this looks all right.
Andy
I torqued the mounting bolts to 75 lbs-ft and then removed the bolts and columns to inspect the anchors. They seemed all right, so I torqued the volts down again and lifted our Honda CRV, a small SUV, on it, with no apparent problems. When the rains stop, I’ll try one of the older sports cars I intended the lift for.
Here are the columns, as installed. I didn’t want to add to the colors in the garage and so removed the stickers on the MaxJax (I hope this doesn’t invalidate the warrantee and isn’t illegal) and stayed with the red color already in the garage. I hope this looks all right.
Andy
turbo-systems
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Wow super clean super cool garage.
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abstamaria
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Thanks, Turbosystems. I cleaned up a bit before taking that photo.
That's my costant companion Xena on the floor, a frisky eight years old.
That's my costant companion Xena on the floor, a frisky eight years old.
Scuderia-F1
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That looks very good Andy!
Regards,
Anders
Regards,
Anders
turbo-systems
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Xena looks comfy lying there!
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jimmie jam
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Andy,
The install and garage look perfect! You're right about the colors. Is your lift a "super sized" Max? The posts look larger than any that i've seen before.
You are a great inspiration to me and MANY others i'm sure!!!
Jimmie
The install and garage look perfect! You're right about the colors. Is your lift a "super sized" Max? The posts look larger than any that i've seen before.
You are a great inspiration to me and MANY others i'm sure!!!
Jimmie
The MaxJax lift looks great Andy. It seems like a perfect choice.
I'm seriously considering a MaxJax lift for the Asylum middle bay where most of my major car projects will take place (see Reply #643 in my thread if interested). Not only do I like the portability aspect of being able to wheel them over in the corner for storage, but also the fact that I can have multiple floor anchor locations so their position in the shop can change to match the current project at hand.
With an alternate wide spacing on the columns, I think I could even use them to lift the sailboat off the trailer for easy bottom painting.
Please continue to update us on the functioning of this lift. I'm curious to hear your thoughts. Thanks.
I'm seriously considering a MaxJax lift for the Asylum middle bay where most of my major car projects will take place (see Reply #643 in my thread if interested). Not only do I like the portability aspect of being able to wheel them over in the corner for storage, but also the fact that I can have multiple floor anchor locations so their position in the shop can change to match the current project at hand.
With an alternate wide spacing on the columns, I think I could even use them to lift the sailboat off the trailer for easy bottom painting.
Please continue to update us on the functioning of this lift. I'm curious to hear your thoughts. Thanks.
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abstamaria
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Many thanks, Anders, Jeff, Jimmie, shopnut, all.
That's a standard MaxJax, Jimmie; I took the photo from a lower perspective to show the whole lift.
Yes, the MaxJax has many advantages, shopnut. I'll let you know how it fares; the experience of others recounted in the Discussion section seems very positive. The MaxJax pump motor and fluid reservoir are mounted on a basic hand trolley; I'm anxious for you to get a MaxJax as I am sure you will devise a more elegant, portable device which I can copy. Seriously!
Best regards,
Andy
That's a standard MaxJax, Jimmie; I took the photo from a lower perspective to show the whole lift.
Yes, the MaxJax has many advantages, shopnut. I'll let you know how it fares; the experience of others recounted in the Discussion section seems very positive. The MaxJax pump motor and fluid reservoir are mounted on a basic hand trolley; I'm anxious for you to get a MaxJax as I am sure you will devise a more elegant, portable device which I can copy. Seriously!
Best regards,
Andy
If it bothers you Andy, it will most likely bother me as well. But you may have to wait a while for me to get around to it - before a MaxJax can be purchased, I still need to finish the ceiling, build a front loft, and install a Bendpak HD-9 for car storage. Work is progressing nicely these days, but projects still move at a snails pace in the Asylum compared to other builds on GJ.
Thanks for your vote of confidence, however.
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abstamaria
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Lift in Use
Here is the MaxJax in use. The difficulty with old cars is that they don't have specified lift points, but this car went up easily. At the moment, I am quite happy with the lift. It is quite a treat.
Here is the MaxJax in use. The difficulty with old cars is that they don't have specified lift points, but this car went up easily. At the moment, I am quite happy with the lift. It is quite a treat.
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abstamaria
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MaxJax Pump Trolley
Until Shopnut (whose garage spills over with novel ideas, many of which I've borrowed) gets a MaxJax and comes up with a more elegant device, I have simply cut off the hand-cart handles from the MaxJax's pump trolley and installed an unused chrome handle from the Proto tool cabinet. It looks better, I think.
My best,
Andy
Until Shopnut (whose garage spills over with novel ideas, many of which I've borrowed) gets a MaxJax and comes up with a more elegant device, I have simply cut off the hand-cart handles from the MaxJax's pump trolley and installed an unused chrome handle from the Proto tool cabinet. It looks better, I think.
My best,
Andy
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jimmie jam
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Andy, i'm up for adoption right now.