Score! Craftsman 150 drill press and 113 table saw

smschriefer · Oct 11, 2011

I had a few deals I tried to work this weekend and on both accounts the person sold the items I had told them I wanted to purchase.

Oh well, fast forward to today and I see that a guy has a bunch of old tools he wants to sell. We meet and $150 later I have the drill press, table saw and a nice supply of blades to include a dado blade. I think I did good! Anyway, what you really want are pics, so away we go, drill press first.....

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Motor works great, the arbor is nice and firm with no wobble. This is a '65 version from Emerson using King Seely castings.

smschriefer · Oct 11, 2011

The table saw is a model 113 built by Emerson and from what I can gather, it is a '48 model year. This thing is beyond heavy...

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smschriefer · Oct 11, 2011

Finally, the blades and misc items. I thought it was cool that I had so much original packaging from the 60's

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JasonW · Oct 11, 2011

Score is right! :willy_nil

You did well. I hate it when they sell the tools before you get there but perhaps it worked out in the end. The condition is awesome. I like the thought of bringing an old tool back to life but having it arrive pretty well ready to go is sweet. So I guess you are hooked now too?

smschriefer · Oct 11, 2011

I am definitely hooked. The scary thing is he also has a planer, a jointer, and two lathes that are all from the 40's - 50's time period and all in great condition. Plus a bunch of hand tools. I do have to go back over for the miter guide, so I might get something else. He had said I could have one of the lathes at no cost. Never used one, but ya never know.

porphyre · Oct 11, 2011

Throw the wobble dado blade away. It's completely worthless unless all you're doing is building unfinished garage furniture.

$150 for the drill press isn't too bad, though.

Lookin4'67Galaxieconv · Oct 11, 2011

You ****! Great buy. Both of them look to be in outstanding shape!

Get the lathe!!!

smschriefer · Oct 11, 2011

Yeah, it is hard not to get it. I mean it is free and even if I don't use it... I get it for free and how much cheaper could I ever get another?

JasonW · Oct 11, 2011

smschriefer said:
I am definitely hooked. The scary thing is he also has a planer, a jointer, and two lathes that are all from the 40's - 50's time period and all in great condition. Plus a bunch of hand tools. I do have to go back over for the miter guide, so I might get something else. He had said I could have one of the lathes at no cost. Never used one, but ya never know.

All I can say to that is my bank account would be at serious risk. It's a good thing I'm on the other coast. Oh and by the way, lathes can be fun, just don't spin the stock too fast until you are certain you have the whole anchoring thing figured out. My grandfathers shop ceiling is testament to that. Enjoy and don't forget to post the results of your next trip. :beer:

Lightfoot · Oct 11, 2011

I have one just like it! Both of them! (except my saw doesn't have the extension-i wish it did. The drill press would be worth 150 around here by itself all day long. if you got all that for 150, you definately deserve a "you ****"!

looks to be in great condition. if you can get a lathe at no cost, man you better get movin. :bounce:

JasonW · Oct 11, 2011

I am curious about the extension table on the table saw. It looks like it is a bit out of line with the primary table. How is it operated?

smschriefer · Oct 11, 2011

Jason, yes, it is not on all the way for the picture. I had to take it off to unload it from my truck and just temped it for the picture. It is held on by 5 bolts and I didn't tighten them up. When it is tight the extension is very level. I read that at the time, people rarely purchased an extension as it was considered a luxury and if they did buy one, it was for one side only.

Lightfoot, I have seen the extensions on ebay and the prices didn't look too bad, but the shipping is probably costly.

Lightfoot · Oct 11, 2011

smschriefer said:
Lightfoot, I have seen the extensions on ebay and the prices didn't look too bad, but the shipping is probably costly.

thanks, i'll have to check that out. :thumbup:

i rarely need one, but when ya needs it, ya needs it.

bluebolt · Oct 11, 2011

I have the same drill press and saw, my press has lots of problems but was at least close. The saw has two wings, the Power Panel and a Craftsman stand.

And you ****!

JasonW · Oct 11, 2011

I liked my idea better. I thought perhaps it folded down at the side of the wood stand but I didn't see any brackets. I presently have such a small space to work in, I am always looking for things that fold down.

I understand people thinking extensions were a luxury but if you are working with plywood you really need it. Perhaps the weight helped. I've watched guys with the little light weight plastic bench saws, no extension, trying to accurately rip sheeting. Doesn't work.

justanengineer · Oct 11, 2011

Those are definitely nice machines considering the tiny size, but $150 is about 3x the norm IMHO.

fordbroncodave · Oct 11, 2011

i want a craftsman 150

dankicksass · Oct 11, 2011

Nice drill press.

NoSloCoupes · Oct 11, 2011

fordbroncodave said:
i want a craftsman 150

Same here, love the old look.

dieselmike · Oct 12, 2011

you ****.

rockchucker · Oct 12, 2011

Man they sure don't make 'em like they used to.

Very nice score!

smschriefer · Nov 19, 2011

I figured I would add my latest scores from this weekend and an update on the drill press. I refurbished the drill press as I wasn't too happy with the color and while the pictures didn't show it, there was a large amount of surface rust. So here are a few after shots of the drill press.

The DP turned out nice, I think it did at least. Now on to the goodies from this weekend. I got another Craftsman 10" table saw. :wtf:

Did I need a new saw? No, I did not, but I did need a miter for my saw and since those cost $30 I figured this purchase was worth it. I also got a beautiful Atlas 6001 6" joiner. I will wait to say the purchase price for the two items. :thumbup:

So on with the show...

The last photo is of some home made table extensions. They add 12" per side for stock feed. I like them. Now on to the jointer...

I think the joiner will be the next refurb I do. I think I will go with a nice industrial grey paint. It should really pop. What am I forgetting? Oh yeah, $40 for the pair.

smschriefer · Nov 19, 2011

So for the price of a miter from an online auction site that shall remain nameless and its shipping - I have two more pieces of vintage iron. :thumbup:

It's like a sore ****, ya just can't beat it!

Outlawmws · Nov 19, 2011

So you are sitting on two essentially identical table saws? here is what you do with them:

Get/make a stand that will hold both. bolt them together and use any extension tables to the outside of the now double wide table. Set up the fence rails so that you can use them in a continuous length. (Or splurge on a fancy extended fence setup)

Set one table up for ripping exclusively, damn the other for either cross cuts or with a dado blade. if you are into cutting big stuff, make an out-feed table for the double wide setup.

smschriefer · Nov 19, 2011

Outlaw, thank you for that advice! That is a brilliant idea! I needed to make a new base for the other saw anyway and now I will just make it bigger to hold the two saws.

Steve

Firefyter-Emt · Nov 19, 2011

Awesome deal on the tools! I heartily agree, bolt both saws into one unit. What I would do is to use one of the thin extensions in the middle between the two saws, and one wide one on each end. I would also look at drilling a hole, in one of the end extensions to mount a router. With this "wide saw", I would build the bench so that it has maybe 24" of out-feed behind it. Make sure there are dado's to allow the miter gauge to extend into the out-feed table.

I would also seriously give thought to making the out-feed table hinge up and allow access to the joiner which would be mounted on the table saw bench, mounted along the back of the saws. This should fit very easy behind them, and as it does not see a lot of use (IMHO) it would be a great home for it. When you need it, the saw can be positioned for use, and the extension table flipped out of the way to run a board through it. Plus, there would be dead space back there anyway.

PS, you may need more than a 24" out-feed table to do this, I just remembered that the saw motor hangs out back there on this saw. Still... if you have the room, you will want the extra table space. I have the same saw with two extensions on once side and a 12" out-feed behind it. I wish I had twice the surface area very often.

smschriefer · Nov 19, 2011

Another great idea! I like the idea of placing the router in the table setup as well. I'm not sure I will make the outfeed table as you described, not because it isn't a great idea, but my plan is to have the table height match my assembly table and will use it as the outfeed table. The jointer will be at the same height as well as I don't like having to bend at the waist due to a bad back.

I have your site saved as a favorite of mine. I've reviewed it many times in the past year. I have to ask - how did you polish the face of the saw? I have been afraid to touch mine since I thought the machine turning would be polished away.

Steve

Firefyter-Emt · Nov 19, 2011

No problem, it would be on the low side. Just remember, the motor on these saws stick out the back, so a small out-feed will help keep you away from the open belt, and span the gap to your table.

On that metal face I used a very mild polish called "Simichrome". It's a German made product that I use to polish my fountain pens. I did ruin the turning on an 8" table saw just like those trying to clean it up. The turning is more fragile than it looks. Also, try to remember that the handle that is way up hear the table top (which is kinda hiding on the second saw) is to lock the blade tilt. Mine was hiding like the one in your photo and I spend a day working a stiff blade tilt, cursing the saw all day long because I forgot the saw had that!

Your blades prompted me to layout and photo mine. These blades and an entire wooded crate in addition, came with my saw. I gave away most all of the blades to people because you just don't need that many, and I had a nice assortment in the cardboard boxes for my collection. The crate of old blades were non-boxed, and non-carbide. I kept these blades because they appeared to be freshly sharpened and boxed. I too have one of those early carbide blades! From what I have seen, it suggests that Sears was the one who came out with the first carbide tipped blade, but I could be wrong, it was just an article on the internet I found.

Here is my collection, and a close up of my "Safe-Saw" blade, which I think may be a 1950's era blade where yours is from the 1960's based on the logo's

And to slip back towards the 1940's to 1930's... how about a super rare dado blade with a 1/2" arbor and everything still in the original package? Even the two blades are in the paper wrapper and in mint condition!

I hope you don't mind the extra photos, but I thought you might like to see some more old Craftsman stuff.

Firefyter-Emt · Nov 19, 2011

PS.... I was just looking for the "Safe-Saw" info and found this....

http://www.antiquesnavigator.com/d-416669/vintage-craftsman-safe-saw-carbide-table-saw-blade.html

Not going to get rich with the blade though... LOL

scarrylarry · Nov 19, 2011

Hello smschriefer
you are probably quite aware of these two websites VintageMachinery and OWWM.org.Lots of good fellas,information and pictures on there.
scarrylarry

smschriefer · Nov 19, 2011

Scarrylarry - I am on those sites, but I haven't really dealt with their forum features. I end up looking at their vintage power tool **** for too long.

Firefyter-Emt - no worries about the pictures as I enjoy seeing old stuff. The blades aren't worth much, but to me it is cool to hold something that old and think about what the original owner built with them. The dado set is awesome and is clearly NOS!

Steve

Red Leader · Nov 19, 2011

So...what were the other tools that the previous owner had (planer, lathe, etc) ???

Do tell

smschriefer · Nov 19, 2011

Red Leader said:
So...what were the other tools that the previous owner had (planer, lathe, etc) ???

Do tell

He had two lathes (one Craftsman and one Dunlap), a Craftsman planer, a radial arm saw, a homemade sander, and a Craftsman jig saw. All of them were from the 50's, but my issue is storage. The tools were his grandfathers and to be honest, I could tell he had a lot of sentimental ties to the pieces and didn't want to push him to sell more. I tried dealing with him a few days later and he said he decided not to sell any of the other items.

I only have a one car garage and my 52 Chevy takes up most of it. I am trying to sell it, but these days nobody is buying too many project cars. I think until I get that out of the garage - I am full up on old iron. :dunno:

Of course I do have some room in my shed...

Red Leader · Nov 22, 2011

I'm curious what kind of old planer it was...a little 6" alien planer? Or maybe a 12" Parks planer? I myself am questing for one of the old 1956-1957 Craftsman-badged Foley-Belsaw type planers which, of course, are extremely rare and nobody's even seen one in the wild.

Keeps it fun

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