Vernmotor
Well-known member
Yep I got one of them drill doctor also..I do better by hand ..wish I know..I send you mine to play with..before you bought one 
Above 1200 Sq/FT The ASYLUM - Happy 40th Birthday to Me! (Est. 2005)
- Thread starter shopnut
- Start date
Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
Red Leader
Well-known member
I'm sure it will feel good to start framing again...its the bread and butter of these builds. It is also nice to see something so big come together for the amount of time spent on it VS spending forever on something just to have it look like you did nothing.
I have that feeling quite often
I have that feeling quite often
Coyote Red
Well-known member
I know you like a finished look, but seriously, consider leaving the beams exposed. They look good. Waste of time and material to cover them imho.
Great updates as always. Thx.
Great updates as always. Thx.
mdbeck1
Well-known member
Since Drill Doctor is made by the same company (DareX), I was expecting it to grind in a similar fashion to the industrial versions they make with the big difference being in the plastic housing, small grinding wheel, and such. The cam-action is just not the same on the homeowners version. I'm maybe being a little harsh because the bits do come out SHARP, no doubt. It will probably end up being worth the $125 I paid for it (model 750X). I just need to forget the lesson my shop teacher taught me in high school - maybe he was wrong anyway. It is nice that it's portable so I can take it between the city house and Asylum (although bringing the bits to IT may be easier
)
I'm actually looking forward to some framing construction now that the weather is cooling off.
I seem to recall a thread on here a while back about the Drill Doctors. IIRC the vendor posted some tips about how to use it.
I've got one as well and crank it up a couple times a year to sharpen all of my drill bits. It takes me a couple of tries to get the first ones set up right but after that it seems to work just fine.
Vernmotor
Well-known member
Boy I like to read that thread !
mdbeck1
Well-known member
I did a search for "drill doctor" and found the one that I commented in. Still looking but haven't found the one with the vendor comments. Some of the people on this forum like them and some don't. Anyway:
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93550&highlight=drill+doctor
AHA.... Here's the thread that I was remembering:
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=940776#post940776
Vernmotor
Well-known member
Thank you
Yep I got one of them drill doctor also..I do better by hand ..wish I know..I send you mine to play with..before you bought one
Vernmotor - a little "playing" on one may have been worthwhile! I've sharpened my own freehand on the grinder for many, many years with decent results. But I was looking for something a little more accurate. The DD is quick and easy to use, but I'm seeing relief angles varying from about 0 to 10 degrees with small bits closer to zero and larger ones closer to the optimum angle (12 degrees if IIRC) Maybe that doesn't matter much for the type of drilling I do ???
Thanks for the links mdbeck1. Opinions do seem to be all over the place, but there are some good tips in these and other threads. One tip that stood out for me was turning the bit counterclockwise slightly in the chuck from what the alignment fingers set it at. It may just be a matter of lining up the cutting edges with a reference point on the chuck to find that sweet spot.
I'm pretty sure I can make this thing work good with a little "tweaking".
I'm sure it will feel good to start framing again...its the bread and butter of these builds. It is also nice to see something so big come together for the amount of time spent on it VS spending forever on something just to have it look like you did nothing.
I have that feeling quite often
The little details sometimes seem to take FOR-EV-ER. All of us have been there. I think I could give 100's of those examples in the Asylum build (actually, I think I did in this thread
). But eventually the little stuff paves the way for the major milestones and then it all seems worth it!You know C-Red, I've been on the fence for probably five years now on whether or not to cover up those darn beams. Thanks for voicing your opinion - I'm sure there's others that feel the same as you. I actually liked them in natural wood with the giant checkered flag up there. But the wood looks a bit more out of place now with more of the ceiling finished in white. I do, however, like the idea of a contrasting color for the beams to make them stand out, but I just don't know how to accomplish it. I toyed with the idea of making them look like monster aluminum I-beams, but talk about extra work - yikes!
Two things are really pointing me in the "cover-up" direction. First, the wood doesn't look as good in real life as it appears in the pictures (pretty much opposite of most other features in here
). They almost look stained in the pictures. The other big problem is the vertical 4x6's used to support the ceiling purlins actually hang below the rafters by about 1/2". If leaving exposed wood, I would still want to cap off the bottom of the beams with matching wood, so I would need to trim off the 4x6's or add some furring strips to the bottom of the rafters to make it all flush.There's still more input to this decision making process
. Like I said, I want to cap off the bottoms, but the one above the jib crane has a number of lift rings built in that will need to be accessible from time to time. I came up with an easy way to make this happen in vinyl by creating a narrow tambour or roll-up style panel that can be pulled down and out when access is needed. With wood, it would probably end up being a boring old hinging door I think I will take a few hours and clad the back beam in vinyl to give it a try for a couple months before doing the front one. I can always rip it off if I don't like it.
tinbender 66
Well-known member
I was going to ask where exactly this loft is going but then I remembered the index so now I don't have to ask and can look forward to watching it go up and I think this was a run on sentence.
.Vernmotor
Well-known member
Leave the beams..give it a homey feel..
wolflrv
Well-known member
Ok..here's another of my "hair-brained" ideas for the beams. Paint them black, trim beam corners in aluminum trim and then add maybe a 1/2" to 1" yellow "racing" stripe on each side. That will tie the ceiling into the rest of the shop and add visual interest to break up the expanse of white vinyl.
...just another crazy idea...LOL!
...just another crazy idea...LOL!
I was going to ask where exactly this loft is going but then I remembered the index so now I don't have to ask and can look forward to watching it go up and I think this was a run on sentence
I'm glad you found the index and are using it to learn about the details of this place but I'm behind on updates so you are certainly welcome to ask questions and I will answer them to the best of my knowledge and as quickly as I can. (Doh! I think you have me running on now too
)There are several people at work that feel the same way Vernmotor. It might look odd though, since it would be the only wood still exposed in the entire place. Even the work bench surface is planned to be covered with metallic looking laminate (if I can find a replacement for the Wilsonart material I had my eye on).
This is a good suggestion wolflrv and with the ASYLUM sign nearby using the same colors, might blend in nicely. Perhaps the reverse of that could work too. Maybe some of that roll aluminum that they sell for continuous gutters (if it lays flat enough ???) to cover up the beams with some black corner trim? I could mock it up with some of the leftover tileboard and trim I have lying around. I can always get a refund on the special vinyl planks I bought.
Thanks for tossing that out there and getting me thinking about another direction.
Omphaloskeptic
Well-known member
I do love the look of wood beams, but do you have to worry about termites and other wood boring insects in your neck of the woods? Do you have to caulk every nook and cranny of finish materials to keep them away from the wood? Just wondering about that "ounce of prevention"...
Coyote Red
Well-known member
I see. I wish the camera would do the same for me. I hate them and mirrors with equal passion.
And then there's that.
I'm thinking the suggestion to paint (or even maybe a solid stain) is something to consider.
Leaving the bottoms open doesn't seem like a bad thing, but I'm not there to look at it everyday, so who knows?
WOW! I just found this site a few days ago and got hooked on to your build thread. Finally finished all 46 pages. I'm amazed at the details and planning you've put into everything.
I also was hoping you hadn't finalized your plans for the rafters being exposed or covered. Just wanted to vote for the exposed wood look. Until I just saw the suggestion of black stain with a yellow stripe that could be cool as well to break up the white. Unless the ceiling flags go back up? Once again awesome build. Now I need to go check out the Saltwater Hideout I think it was called.
Also the Asylum sign might look good in an oval format closer to your avatar than the house outline, just a thought. Either way I think you could do the yellow as the background with plexiglass and that would make backlighting really have a neat glowing look.
I also was hoping you hadn't finalized your plans for the rafters being exposed or covered. Just wanted to vote for the exposed wood look. Until I just saw the suggestion of black stain with a yellow stripe that could be cool as well to break up the white. Unless the ceiling flags go back up? Once again awesome build. Now I need to go check out the Saltwater Hideout I think it was called.
Also the Asylum sign might look good in an oval format closer to your avatar than the house outline, just a thought. Either way I think you could do the yellow as the background with plexiglass and that would make backlighting really have a neat glowing look.
Termites - Oooooooh yeah, we have a few termites down here. I actually had a breach in the defenses about a year ago. This incidentally matched the 5 year expiration date on the initial treatment before the slab was poured. I guess those little buggers were just waiting for it to dissipate. I caught it in time before any structural damage could be done, but found out they REALLY like masonite! Since then, I have been on a regimented perimeter spray schedule to ward them off. I haven't seen any signs of them since. Knock on (solid) wood!
Mrs. Shopnut and I really like the look of wood and open beams. Its very likely the retirement home built near the Asylum will be something along the lines of a log cabin. I've heard true log versions of them can require a lot of maintenance so ours will probably capture that look with a more conventional structure underneath. Cypress supposedly is not real attractive to termites and appears to be the wood of choice for cabins around here.
That's really funny C-Red
PBRman - Pabst Blue Ribbon perhaps?
It's folks like you that make me glad I'm taking the time to share all this. Thanks for your kind words. And thanks for your suggestions - I'm taking it all in. I do like the idea of a contrasting color up there on the beams. As for the sign - are there companies that produce pre-colored plexiglass in yellow? I guess I need to do a little searching and see what's out there.
I'm pretty focused on getting started on the the front loft so I have a little more time to ponder on the beams and the sign. Nothing moves real fast in the Asylum, you know
I see it's your first post - welcome to the forum if you just joined. There is a wealth of information being shared by the members here. I'm sure you will enjoy your time here.
rickairmedic
Well-known member
Yes you can get plexiglass in pretty much any color you want .
Rick
.Rick
Omphaloskeptic
Well-known member
Red Leader
Well-known member
The little details sometimes seem to take FOR-EV-ER. All of us have been there. I think I could give 100's of those examples in the Asylum build (actually, I think I did in this thread
Yep, it helps to have a vision - that way you can see the end result in your mind when the only thing in front of you is the current mess.
Helps keep ya sane.
(But look what forum we are on. Who am I kidding?
)Yes - Please check out Jeff's Salt Life Hideout. He is well on his way to creating an awesome place!
Yes you can get plexiglass in pretty much any color you want
Rick
Thanks Rick - I will take a look for a local source.
This poster might look good somewhere in the shop.
Hey - If I could find one of these posters, I could skip making the sign! Wait just a minute - that sounds like the easy way out. I will have no part of it!
Actually, that looks like one of the fonts Wingnut65 was suggesting a while back.
Yep, it helps to have a vision - that way you can see the end result in your mind when the only thing in front of you is the current mess.
Helps keep ya sane.
(But look what forum we are on. Who am I kidding?
Helps keep ya sane? - That's no fun!
With sanity, they may kick me out of the Asylum and then I will have to start all over (and I'm not sure I have it in me)!
Last edited:
Red Leader
Well-known member
Helps keep ya sane? - That's no fun!
With sanity, they may kick me out of the Asylum and then I will have to start all over (and I'm not sure I have it in me)!
Heh, for a sec I forgot just which thread I was posting that in.
FRONT HOIST SYSTEM, PART 1 (OVERALL VIEWS)…
Before building the front storage loft, it seemed logical to get this hoist in working order for lifting materials up there. The following image shows the plan. The purple is the track spanning between main rafters, the green below the track is the trolley/hoist, and the green above is the original ceiling flag cable stretched between rafters. The track will also support an 8’ light fixture to help illuminate the center of the main bay, and that is shown in blue. It will roll over to the loft on the left when bulb changes are needed.
This link will take you back to some previous details on the hoist: ASYLUM Reply #535
Here are some pictures of the finished hoist system:
Here are some close-ups of the hoist and trolley. Since the track is sitting about 20’ off the ground, the Big Red 10’ lift hoist shown will be replaced with a 20’ version (due in this week). I toyed with the idea of borrowing the 20’ Dayton electric hoist off the jib crane temporarily for this loft project, but it is such a monster and it would put an extra strain on the track. I figured a manual hoist will work just fine here.
Not that I don’t trust nails or anything, but I decided to add a bunch more fasteners to the center rafter gusset as a precautionary measure with the extra load being placed on it. This picture shows the screws and lag bolts in their predrilled holes right before they were driven home.
Construction details to follow for those that care…
Before building the front storage loft, it seemed logical to get this hoist in working order for lifting materials up there. The following image shows the plan. The purple is the track spanning between main rafters, the green below the track is the trolley/hoist, and the green above is the original ceiling flag cable stretched between rafters. The track will also support an 8’ light fixture to help illuminate the center of the main bay, and that is shown in blue. It will roll over to the loft on the left when bulb changes are needed.
This link will take you back to some previous details on the hoist: ASYLUM Reply #535
Here are some pictures of the finished hoist system:
Here are some close-ups of the hoist and trolley. Since the track is sitting about 20’ off the ground, the Big Red 10’ lift hoist shown will be replaced with a 20’ version (due in this week). I toyed with the idea of borrowing the 20’ Dayton electric hoist off the jib crane temporarily for this loft project, but it is such a monster and it would put an extra strain on the track. I figured a manual hoist will work just fine here.
Not that I don’t trust nails or anything
, but I decided to add a bunch more fasteners to the center rafter gusset as a precautionary measure with the extra load being placed on it. This picture shows the screws and lag bolts in their predrilled holes right before they were driven home.Construction details to follow for those that care…
Last edited:
Omphaloskeptic
Well-known member
The hoist looks great! Any idea what max load is?
Knowing that you live in hurricane country, the hoist can serve a dual purpose. Install a shackle plate into your concrete floor and hook the hoist to it; it'll help keep the Asylum from blowing its lid! lol
Did you say it's a 'manual' hoist? Shopnut, how could you do this; HAL will be crushed.
Knowing that you live in hurricane country, the hoist can serve a dual purpose. Install a shackle plate into your concrete floor and hook the hoist to it; it'll help keep the Asylum from blowing its lid! lol
Did you say it's a 'manual' hoist? Shopnut, how could you do this; HAL will be crushed.
tinbender 66
Well-known member
I think that just might be enough lag bolts. In case of a national distaster that'll be the last truss standing.
Seriously, always looking forward to the next step of the mad scientist.
.Seriously, always looking forward to the next step of the mad scientist.
FRONT HOIST SYSTEM, PART 2 (DETAILS)…
Here’s how I ended up building the hoist track. SuperStrut (or UniStrut) and matching brackets were sandwiched between 2x6’s to form the main beam. Spacing on hanger brackets is 16”. 3/8" bolts when through 2x6's and brackets to tie it all together.
I used four of these brackets to create pockets for the beam to rest in at each end. They were painted white before installing.
This is what they look like installed. In key locations, black steel straps join the hoist beam with the ridge rafter above and red arrows point to the bolts holding them. This is my security blanket to ensure the new beam isn't going to come crashing down, even if something fails. And at 20', it would hurt if that happened! It also minimizes the bow in the beam.
This last shot shows the center tie straps. I would have added more straps but was leaving 5’ gaps for the ceiling flag to pass through between the upper and lower 2x6’s. Curtain rod tubes rest on a 1/8” cable and serve as a roller where the fabric drapes over the cable. I’m still not sure if the flag will go back up, but I want to leave the option open in the future. The vinyl J-channel was also installed and is ready to accept the ceiling vinyl when the time comes.
A few final details will follow shortly.
Here’s how I ended up building the hoist track. SuperStrut (or UniStrut) and matching brackets were sandwiched between 2x6’s to form the main beam. Spacing on hanger brackets is 16”. 3/8" bolts when through 2x6's and brackets to tie it all together.
I used four of these brackets to create pockets for the beam to rest in at each end. They were painted white before installing.
This is what they look like installed. In key locations, black steel straps join the hoist beam with the ridge rafter above and red arrows point to the bolts holding them. This is my security blanket to ensure the new beam isn't going to come crashing down, even if something fails. And at 20', it would hurt if that happened! It also minimizes the bow in the beam.
This last shot shows the center tie straps. I would have added more straps but was leaving 5’ gaps for the ceiling flag to pass through between the upper and lower 2x6’s. Curtain rod tubes rest on a 1/8” cable and serve as a roller where the fabric drapes over the cable. I’m still not sure if the flag will go back up, but I want to leave the option open in the future. The vinyl J-channel was also installed and is ready to accept the ceiling vinyl when the time comes.
A few final details will follow shortly.
Last edited:
Max load? I haven't taken time to calculate it. With the tie straps added as shown, it basically comes down to what two 2x6's can withstand at a 5.5' span between supports. You'll understand why I say this in my next (and final) writeup on the hoist. I hung on it as a first test (with scaffold in place, of course - I'm not that crazy) and it didn't even "settle in". I think I heard it laugh, actually
. I was expecting at least a creak out of the wood (but it was before lunch ). I'm sure it will be fine for a few hundred pounds. Only lightweight items will be stored in this loft so I'm sure it will suffice. I would have done things much different if I was lifting engine blocks or something.Using the hoist in a reverse application is actually a clever idea - will have to keep that in mind as the next hurricane is approaching.
Yes manual hoist
, and HAL is mad about it. He almost locked out my access to the beer fridge! But I have to be in control of a few things, right? Then that is the beam they will find a survivor under when the "big one" hitsI think that just might be enough lag bolts. In case of a national distaster that'll be the last truss standing
Seriously, always looking forward to the next step of the mad scientist.
Thanks TB66.Red Leader
Well-known member
As always, lookin' good.
And the pictures finally showed up!!!
And the pictures finally showed up!!!
FRONT HOIST SYSTEM, PART 3 (FINAL DETAILS)…
Since Lowes only sells the SuperStrut channel in 10’ sections, there was unfortunately going to be a splice somewhere. This ends up being the weakest point of the hoist system so I placed it above the loft overhang. On the bright side, this removable section will come in handy for servicing of the trolley and installation of the light fixture later on.
To finish this all off, the new track beam will be clad in white vinyl. Before assembly, I painted the bottom edge of the 2x6’s with black paint because a portion of them will be exposed even after the vinyl is installed.
The new 20’ hoist just arrived. Now I need to figure out a way to keep the chain from rusting badly like my other one did. It came all oiled up but I don’t want a handful of oil every time I use it. I asked the question in the General Tool Discussion forum here: Link to thread and I'm getting some good feedback.
Since Lowes only sells the SuperStrut channel in 10’ sections, there was unfortunately going to be a splice somewhere. This ends up being the weakest point of the hoist system so I placed it above the loft overhang. On the bright side, this removable section will come in handy for servicing of the trolley and installation of the light fixture later on.
To finish this all off, the new track beam will be clad in white vinyl. Before assembly, I painted the bottom edge of the 2x6’s with black paint because a portion of them will be exposed even after the vinyl is installed.
The new 20’ hoist just arrived. Now I need to figure out a way to keep the chain from rusting badly like my other one did. It came all oiled up but I don’t want a handful of oil every time I use it. I asked the question in the General Tool Discussion forum here: Link to thread and I'm getting some good feedback.
Last edited:
Thanks RL. I'm glad you can finally see them. But I didn't do anything different, so it might be something you did on your endAs always, lookin' good.
And the pictures finally showed up!!!
WITH GOOD PROGRESS BEING MADE, A TASK LIST UPDATE IS DUE…
Before I take on that front loft project, I thought updating the task list would be a good shot in the arm. It’s great to be checking a lot of these off, but there is still a bunch to do. I’ve taken most things as far as I can and the front loft (or lack thereof) will start to hold major tasks up if I don’t knock it out soon.
The index was consolidated to post#1 and updated as well.
Link to prior Task List (reply#686)
Link to prior Task List (Reply#1365)
ASYLUM Task List:
Crane
* STARTED Install cable carrier system for power cabling to hoist (need to trim around window frame)
* STARTED Install hoist-mounted spotlight (controlled with wall switch) (needs power cord routed to it)
* Install crane-mounted power cable reel (???)
* Final leveling of crane beam
Front Main Bay (24x26’ area)
* **DONE** Rough framing for new clerestory windows (north) (south)
* **DONE** Rough framing for new fluorescent fixtures (north) (south)
* **DONE** Rough framing for ceiling vinyl (north) (south)
* **DONE** Rough framing at ceiling peak
* **DONE** Replace clerestory fiberglass panels with 4X sliding windows (north) (south)
* **DONE** Add mounts for ceiling flag (north) (south)
* **DONE** Framing for speakers (north) (south)
* **DONE** Framing for vinyl trim (north) (south)
* NOT NEEDED Run Coax and Cat5 cable across south wall (Run in lower duct-way later)
* **DONE** Run speaker wire across south wall
* **DONE** Run air lines and switch wire to window openers (north) (south)
* **DONE** Insulate wall (north) (south)
* **DONE** Install wall vinyl (north) (south)
* **DONE** Install window jamb vinyl (north) (south)
* **DONE** Install window openers (north) (south)
* **DONE** Install stereo speakers (north shop A/V) (south apartment A/V)
* Insulate ceiling (DONE north rear) (DONE south rear) (north front) (south front)
* Install ceiling vinyl (DONE north rear) (DONE south rear) (north front) (south front)
* **DONE** Install 4X fluorescent fixtures (north) (south)
* Cover up roof rafter gussets (DONE rear) (front)
* Cover up roof rafter beams (rear) (middle)
* Install final large diameter air line loop around main bay (DONE north) (DONE south) (side bay)
* Add air line drops for auto lift and hose reels
* Design/Build center suspended light fixture
* Build south wall shallow storage cabinet
* Build ASYLUM sign
Front Storage Loft
* **DONE** Purchase plywood/lumber and find temp storage spot for it.
* **DONE** Add light-duty hoist system at ceiling peak to access loft.
* **DONE** Build temporary shelf above door drums (for library ladder attachment)
* Extend front exterior fascia down
* Cut hole in wall above 12’ high doors
* Rough framing for floor to replace temporary shelf
* Install plywood sheathing for loft floor
* Install insulation in exterior ceiling (or front wall above doors ???)
* Install exterior ceiling metal/vinyl
* Install 4X fluorescent fixtures in exterior ceiling (???)
* Insulate loft ceiling (or front wall above doors ???)
* Install loft ceiling panels
* Install 4X fluorescent fixtures inside loft
* Rough framing for door drum valance (hides drums)
* Rough framing for fluorescent fixtures below door drums
* Install vinyl on door drum valance
* Install 4X fluorescent fixtures in bottom of door drum valance
* Dismantle scaffold
Library Ladder
* **DONE** Paint brackets/hangers
* **DONE** Install L-Brackets inside walls (north) (front) (south)
* **DONE** Install hangers (north) (front) (south)
* **DONE** Bend and test fit rail sections
* **DONE** Build ladder trolley and try on rail system
* **DONE** Remove rails
* **DONE** Paint remaining rails yellow
* Re-install rail
* Paint ladder trolley
* Modify ladder to store in retracted position
Electrical
* Rearrange circuit breakers in main panel
* **DONE** Route final wiring to main bay lights (8X) (north) (south)
* STARTED Add “WEST WALL” GFI circuit for front wall outlets (MC cable routed across shop)
* STARTED Add “MAIN LTS#2” light circuit for front fluorescent fixtures (4X) and front storage loft fluorescent fixtures (4X). Add switch for storage loft. (MC cable routed across shop)
* Add switches for main bay lighting zones (north) (front) (south)
* Add switch for loft lighting zone
Before I take on that front loft project, I thought updating the task list would be a good shot in the arm. It’s great to be checking a lot of these off, but there is still a bunch to do. I’ve taken most things as far as I can and the front loft (or lack thereof) will start to hold major tasks up if I don’t knock it out soon.
The index was consolidated to post#1 and updated as well.
Link to prior Task List (reply#686)
Link to prior Task List (Reply#1365)
ASYLUM Task List:
Crane
* STARTED Install cable carrier system for power cabling to hoist (need to trim around window frame)
* STARTED Install hoist-mounted spotlight (controlled with wall switch) (needs power cord routed to it)
* Install crane-mounted power cable reel (???)
* Final leveling of crane beam
Front Main Bay (24x26’ area)
* **DONE** Rough framing for new clerestory windows (north) (south)
* **DONE** Rough framing for new fluorescent fixtures (north) (south)
* **DONE** Rough framing for ceiling vinyl (north) (south)
* **DONE** Rough framing at ceiling peak
* **DONE** Replace clerestory fiberglass panels with 4X sliding windows (north) (south)
* **DONE** Add mounts for ceiling flag (north) (south)
* **DONE** Framing for speakers (north) (south)
* **DONE** Framing for vinyl trim (north) (south)
* NOT NEEDED Run Coax and Cat5 cable across south wall (Run in lower duct-way later)
* **DONE** Run speaker wire across south wall
* **DONE** Run air lines and switch wire to window openers (north) (south)
* **DONE** Insulate wall (north) (south)
* **DONE** Install wall vinyl (north) (south)
* **DONE** Install window jamb vinyl (north) (south)
* **DONE** Install window openers (north) (south)
* **DONE** Install stereo speakers (north shop A/V) (south apartment A/V)
* Insulate ceiling (DONE north rear) (DONE south rear) (north front) (south front)
* Install ceiling vinyl (DONE north rear) (DONE south rear) (north front) (south front)
* **DONE** Install 4X fluorescent fixtures (north) (south)
* Cover up roof rafter gussets (DONE rear) (front)
* Cover up roof rafter beams (rear) (middle)
* Install final large diameter air line loop around main bay (DONE north) (DONE south) (side bay)
* Add air line drops for auto lift and hose reels
* Design/Build center suspended light fixture
* Build south wall shallow storage cabinet
* Build ASYLUM sign
Front Storage Loft
* **DONE** Purchase plywood/lumber and find temp storage spot for it.
* **DONE** Add light-duty hoist system at ceiling peak to access loft.
* **DONE** Build temporary shelf above door drums (for library ladder attachment)
* Extend front exterior fascia down
* Cut hole in wall above 12’ high doors
* Rough framing for floor to replace temporary shelf
* Install plywood sheathing for loft floor
* Install insulation in exterior ceiling (or front wall above doors ???)
* Install exterior ceiling metal/vinyl
* Install 4X fluorescent fixtures in exterior ceiling (???)
* Insulate loft ceiling (or front wall above doors ???)
* Install loft ceiling panels
* Install 4X fluorescent fixtures inside loft
* Rough framing for door drum valance (hides drums)
* Rough framing for fluorescent fixtures below door drums
* Install vinyl on door drum valance
* Install 4X fluorescent fixtures in bottom of door drum valance
* Dismantle scaffold
Library Ladder
* **DONE** Paint brackets/hangers
* **DONE** Install L-Brackets inside walls (north) (front) (south)
* **DONE** Install hangers (north) (front) (south)
* **DONE** Bend and test fit rail sections
* **DONE** Build ladder trolley and try on rail system
* **DONE** Remove rails
* **DONE** Paint remaining rails yellow
* Re-install rail
* Paint ladder trolley
* Modify ladder to store in retracted position
Electrical
* Rearrange circuit breakers in main panel
* **DONE** Route final wiring to main bay lights (8X) (north) (south)
* STARTED Add “WEST WALL” GFI circuit for front wall outlets (MC cable routed across shop)
* STARTED Add “MAIN LTS#2” light circuit for front fluorescent fixtures (4X) and front storage loft fluorescent fixtures (4X). Add switch for storage loft. (MC cable routed across shop)
* Add switches for main bay lighting zones (north) (front) (south)
* Add switch for loft lighting zone
Last edited:
Red Leader
Well-known member
That checklist is either very inspirational, or (remembering all the undone things I have yet to do), very depressing
Good thing I'm the 'glass is half full' kinda guy
Really shows what you have accomplished.
Good thing I'm the 'glass is half full' kinda guy
Really shows what you have accomplished.
flybefree
Well-known member
Great job and great write up on the hoist...now I want one of those things TOO! I have not gotten anything done in the last three weeks. Between harvest time, work, kids, and OSU football game this SAT I have been slacking.
Shaun
Shaun
That checklist is either very inspirational, or (remembering all the undone things I have yet to do), very depressing
Good thing I'm the 'glass is half full' kinda guy
Really shows what you have accomplished.
Although it may work for everyone, most people will benefit from listing out what needs to be done. It helps keep them on track. For me, they are very motivational, they help me focus, and also tend to be a great reminder to make sure materials and tools are in place for the upcoming tasks.
You always did strike me as a glass half full guy.
Thanks Shaun.
Your big place needs a bridge crane spanning from wall to wall with full length runways. Then you could pick up that airplane after pulling in after a flight and turn it around 180 for the next flight out. It doesn't have reverse, does it?
Don't worry about the last 3 weeks - you probably needed a good long break from the place for a job well done! Enjoy that game!
Very nice Asylum! I'd be happy to be commited there! LOL
Haven't gotten through the complete thread, but the index rocks. And your list comment along with Red Leader's statement about having a vision... So true. It's obvious I need to take some time to think about the direction I want to go with my mess. But, I digress.
Great place, i'm particularly intrigued by the guitars. Love the way you did the lounge area
Best Regards,
-C
Krash Kadillak
Well-known member
I jumped ahead.....still have pages 5-45 or so to go through.
Excellent shop.
BTW, you are going to need a hoist to get that track up to the ceiling!
Excellent shop.
BTW, you are going to need a hoist to get that track up to the ceiling!
Two new visitors! Welcome to the Asylum guys!
That lounge area serves as eating/sleeping quarters while I'm spending time at the Asylum. Most of the good times are had out in the shop though
If you like guitars, you might what to read this reply and also follow the link contained within it to Red Leaders guitar thread: Asylum Reply #837 More pictures of Mrs Shopnut's guitars are shown there.
)
The INDEX is back on page 1 if you just want to jump around and read the stuff that interests you - I won't mind!
Thanks K-K. Luckily, the track is already up. But I didn't really explain the exact method I used. I test-fitted everything, then disassembled and painted it. The final assembly actually took place up at the peak, one board at a time. The heaviest thing to carry up there was the 11' 2x6's, but I have lots of experience with that. The assembled beam probably weighed close to a 100 pounds and it would have been a handful at 20'!
Thanks mithrix. If you want to be efficient and timely about getting your work done, you need to have a plan, and a list certainly comes in handy. Of course, someone has to do the work tooVery nice Asylum! I'd be happy to be commited there! LOL
Haven't gotten through the complete thread, but the index rocks. And your list comment along with Red Leader's statement about having a vision... So true. It's obvious I need to take some time to think about the direction I want to go with my mess. But, I digress.
Great place, i'm particularly intrigued by the guitars. Love the way you did the lounge area
Best Regards,
-C
That lounge area serves as eating/sleeping quarters while I'm spending time at the Asylum. Most of the good times are had out in the shop though
If you like guitars, you might what to read this reply and also follow the link contained within it to Red Leaders guitar thread: Asylum Reply #837 More pictures of Mrs Shopnut's guitars are shown there.
HEY - No jumping allowed here! (just kidding
) The INDEX is back on page 1 if you just want to jump around and read the stuff that interests you - I won't mind!
Thanks K-K. Luckily, the track is already up. But I didn't really explain the exact method I used. I test-fitted everything, then disassembled and painted it. The final assembly actually took place up at the peak, one board at a time. The heaviest thing to carry up there was the 11' 2x6's, but I have lots of experience with that
. The assembled beam probably weighed close to a 100 pounds and it would have been a handful at 20'! Foxxtrot
Well-known member
Haven't been back to your thread in a little over a month! Congratulations on (several) jobs well done! I kind of like it that way, it's almost better to read a few pages in a row than be left hanging on the next installment 
I kind of like it that way, it's almost better to read a few pages in a row than be left hanging on the next installment Thanks Foxxtrot.Haven't been back to your thread in a little over a month! Congratulations on (several) jobs well done!
Yeah - things are kind of slow moving here at the Asylum with a force of one. Sometimes it's better to let the thread "grow" for a while before checking back in on it