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European Auto Service - Raleigh, NC 1962-1997

caspian65

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I recently made a post in the 1930's shop restoration thread that I had spent a lot of time in a very similar shop and that I might have some pictures. Well, I found the negatives and scanned them in. I thought I'd make a new thread instead of hi-jacking Thomas'! :)

Don Hall was the owner of this shop, an old Navy guy. He started the business in 1962 after working at Helmhold (sp?) Volkswagen in Raleigh. Don specialized in European cars, mostly British and German.

I met Don around 1990 when I was going to college. He helped me keep a '78 MGB running and kind of took me under his wing. I ended up helping with odd jobs at the shop and eventually Don gave me a key to get in whenever I wanted. Spent many weekends there working on cars and learning tricks of the trade. Even restored a '67 MGB with Don, he paid for everything and I did a lot of the work. It was a great deal for me as I got to drive it whenever I wanted when it was done.

The shop was closed in Summer '97. The city of Raleigh was doing improvements to the bridge on Morgan St., which would have rendered the entryway to the shop inaccessible. The city moved everything from the shop to an old fire station that Don owned out in the country. Don passed away in Feb. 2010 and I saw everything in the fire station at that time when paying my respects. Sadly, most of it was still packed in boxes. Not sure what will happen to all of it, but none of my business at this point.

The pictures following were taken the morning before the movers started packing up everything. Don had done a bunch of cleaning up (if you can believe that!), so it was actually a little easier to walk around than normal. When the shop was full-swing, there were about 3-4 places to pull in cars and work on them. He had employed one full-time person, but they quit and started their own business. After that, he had an old friend come by most days to help out.

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Taken from across Morgan St., this was one way at this time. To get cars in the shop, had to watch for traffic coming over the bridge, swing out and pull in straight:
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You can see the moving vans here:
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To the left, walking in through the garage door entry:
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The "parts counter"... I vividly remember Don leaning on this, talking on the phone, sipping a beer after-hours. The bathroom was to the right of the counter:
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Parts rack, gobs of Lucas and British car parts:
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The main aisle, looking towards the back of the shop:
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More parts, sink for washing hands and a water fountain:
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The faithful old compressor, I can still hear this thing kicking on:
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Mountain of engine parts on back LH corner, I think there was a work bench by the window:
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Room at the back of the shop, always stunk back there and very damp, leaking roof and walls, there was a slide door to get in, I don't remember seeing the floor in there before this picture was taken, so Don had been doing some cleanup in preparation of the move:
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Back in the main building, looking back towards the LH corner, you can see the fender of his 1928? International truck... was a restoration in progress:
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Picture taken pointing back towards the entrance from the back, better view of the truck. I remember that big fan running in the summertime, it was really loud!
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Turning back towards the RH corner, some stairs and an old doorway:
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Turning towards the RH side wall with workbenches and equipment:
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Another RH side wall shot:
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Turning back, RH side:
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Opposite side of the International truck, looking toward LH side:
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Workbenches on RH side, parts cabinet:
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Pic of the 2nd '67 MGB that Don and I were restoring together, we never finished it:
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Another MGB, looking back towards front RH side of shop:
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Closer image of RH front corner, this was where a lot of stuff got piled up!
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Looking back:
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Front office:
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Don's office, stepping in through the door, stuff piled everywhere!
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Turning back towards the left:
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Turning back towards right, old stuff everywhere!:
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Back towards office entrance. I forgot what Don called the alligator with deer antlers. He was a jokester for sure and this was just one of his many items of interest:
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Back out in the shop, looking back towards the entry, the building used to be a dry cleaning business and I think the tile in the floor was the original entrance area:
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Display cabinet by the door entryway, I used to marvel at the contents, some neat old signs too:
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Last pic, looking toward the garage entry, the old Coke machine. I bought many a bottle out of there. Something about drinking a Coke out of an old machine. The smell the old machine leaves on the bottles, just a slight musty smell. Lots of things like this spark old memories.
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Hope everyone enjoys the pics. I'll be happy to answer any questions. Maybe someone on here also remembers the old shop?
 
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I bet that old dude got a hell of a lot more work done in that dive shop than any dozen modern auto tech mill grads with sparkly clean half empty boxes :)
 
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I bet that old dude got a hell of a lot more work done in that dive shop than any dozen modern auto tech mill grads with sparkly clean half empty boxes :)

You got that completely right. Even in his 50's when I worked with him, he could keep up with any young whippersnapper. He wasn't one of those 9-5 guys either. Even running his own business, he would be there early and at 5, that just meant he could start drinking beer. They usually kept the doors open until 7-8pm every day during the week.
 

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Great old pictures, thanks for the memories. I'll bet he could lay his hands on anything that he needed in that shop.
 

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I want to say something but words..are not coming to me right now..Thats is great..Makes me think of alot of old shops I have work in.. and learn things that I did not in any schools.
 

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The shop I had was an English car shop before we moved in and when we originally looked at the place it was very similar to this. The guy was retiring and had been in the place 20-25 years. He had piles of engines, suspension, interiors etc like this perhaps even worse! Seems like a lot of British car garages dabble as breakers!

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Ohh.. I wish I could get a Engine repair sign like that!
 
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caspian65

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Yes, that is exactly where it was. Funny thing, Don actually rented the building all those years. He probably could have bought it several times over. From what I understand, he and his wife rented a house in a nearby town too, probably for more than 20 years. Guess he figured he would eventually move back out to his farm, which he did.
 

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Epic.

I would like the chance to take just one item out of there. It would take hours to find it!
 
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Ohh.. I wish I could get a Engine repair sign like that!

Probably wouldn't be too hard to make one yourself. Maybe even hand paint the letters for effect. :lol:

Wish the pic was more clear to read the "Notis" sign.

Never a dull moment around that shop, always laughter and carrying on. Some good times there.

I sent a nice letter to Don's wife after he passed expressing interest in the '67 MGB that he and I had restored in the early 90's. From what I understand, Don's daughter wanted to keep it. The car is most likely sitting in the same spot, outside under a covering, as when I saw it a couple years ago. I probably hadn't seen the car in 10 years, so it was really neat to see it up there at the farm. Maybe one day I'll manage to talk them out of it. Here it is... I reckon I was about 23 in that pic... ca. 1993.

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Epic.

I would like the chance to take just one item out of there. It would take hours to find it!

Over the years that I had dabbled around the shop, somehow I had managed to end up with one of Don's 3/8" Snap-On ratchets. I kept it in my toolbox at home, always intending to take it back one day, but it never seemed to happen. One day when I was using it, the end broke apart. A friend of mine that had a bunch of Snap-On tools at the time took it to his local dealer and had it rebuilt. Again, intended to take it back, but it got buried in my box. When I got the Snap-On bug about 2005, I put his ratchet up on top of the box, sort of as a display/reminder that I needed to take it back to him one day. Time crept by and then Don passed. When I went to his wake with a close friend, I took the ratchet with me. I had thoughts of placing it with him, but my friend (who was also like a father figure), told me to keep it as a remembrance. So, I did and I still keep it up on top of my box. It's an old style ratchet, maybe from the 60's or 70's. Don't know if I ever looked for a date stamp. Another thing I have from Don is an old metal FoMoCo ignition parts box. Think he told me he got it out of an old dealership before it closed in the 60's. I have it above my workbench and it's filled with miscellaneous parts, including spark plugs, points, distributor caps and other stuff. Nice that I have a couple things to remember him.
 
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Found a picture from the county tax site. The property is now owned by NC DOT, but in the photos section, there was still one from the 1990's:

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I bet that old dude got a hell of a lot more work done in that dive shop than any dozen modern auto tech mill grads with sparkly clean half empty boxes :)

My Dad always told me, "A messy shop is usually a busy shop".
 

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Probably wouldn't be too hard to make one yourself. Maybe even hand paint the letters for effect. :lol:

Wish the pic was more clear to read the "Notis" sign.

Never a dull moment around that shop, always laughter and carrying on. Some good times there.

I sent a nice letter to Don's wife after he passed expressing interest in the '67 MGB that he and I had restored in the early 90's. From what I understand, Don's daughter wanted to keep it. The car is most likely sitting in the same spot, outside under a covering, as when I saw it a couple years ago. I probably hadn't seen the car in 10 years, so it was really neat to see it up there at the farm. Maybe one day I'll manage to talk them out of it. Here it is... I reckon I was about 23 in that pic... ca. 1993.

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Beautiful... Pre- emissions, 5 main bearing engine, non synchronous first gear, 4 speed transmission... Wire wheels make them ride smooth like a big car... Did it have the electric overdrive?...

In the shop photos I saw two MGB Roadsters, a late 1974 or 75 and what looks like a mid 1960s...

I had more than a few MGBs when I was a kid... Lots of fun...

Some where I still have Factory Shop manuals for the MGBs dating from the 1960s... These days I have an early Miata to play with...
 

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...Mountain of engine parts on back LH corner, I think there was a work bench by the window:
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I see an old David Bradley tractor, my dad had a Bradley snow plow when I worked at his service station in Illinois. Unfortunately it was burned in a fire, some kid lit my sister's playhouse up and it was sitting behind it awaiting "restoration".
 
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Beautiful... Pre- emissions, 5 main bearing engine, non synchronous first gear, 4 speed transmission... Wire wheels make them ride smooth like a big car... Did it have the electric overdrive?...

In the shop photos I saw two MGB Roadsters, a late 1974 or 75 and what looks like a mid 1960s...

I had more than a few MGBs when I was a kid... Lots of fun...

Some where I still have Factory Shop manuals for the MGBs dating from the 1960s... These days I have an early Miata to play with...

Yes, '67 is the one to own for MGB's. I love the look of the old dash board. This one didn't have over-drive.

The one MGB in the shop, next to the 1928 International truck was the '67 project that Don and I were working on. I don't know what ever became of it, but if I had to guess, I would say it was either parked out at his farm somewhere or rolled into the fire station, exactly like it was when it left the shop in '97. Pity, because all the mechanical work was done, it just needed cosmetics. I don't recall what the other one was in the shop before the move. Would have either been a customer car or maybe one of Don's.

-Charles
 

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Thank you for sharing all of it. It's a shame that more shops like this aren't around any more. It does bring back a lot of memories of when I started working on cars. The smell of the varsol tank as you cleaned parts ect.
 
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I see an old David Bradley tractor, my dad had a Bradley snow plow when I worked at his service station in Illinois. Unfortunately it was burned in a fire, some kid lit my sister's playhouse up and it was sitting behind it awaiting "restoration".

The farm had tons of that kind of stuff. It was utterly jaw-dropping to see what was there. I'm guessing most of it is still in the same place.
 

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Having started my 47 years as an auto mechanic in 1962,
I remember many shops in the Cleveland Ohio area that resembled this one.
I even worked in a few. Two thinks come to mind.What is OSHA and EPA?
Roy
 
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I guess there's a point where things just start to get away from you when running a shop like this and it comes down to spending time organizing and making no money or spending time repairing a car and making money.
 

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The landscape of downtown Raleigh is really changing, lots of old buildings being torn down for better or worse. I'm trying to picture where this is, I know Morgan street pretty well and live down town. Still a few older car repair places going - there is an intersection at Boylan and Hillsborough Street (Chargrill) where it seems like there is an old service station on every corner.
 
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The landscape of downtown Raleigh is really changing, lots of old buildings being torn down for better or worse. I'm trying to picture where this is, I know Morgan street pretty well and live down town. Still a few older car repair places going - there is an intersection at Boylan and Hillsborough Street (Chargrill) where it seems like there is an old service station on every corner.

Yes, Raleigh seems to have been looking for an identity for quite a while and I guess the powers that be feel that big pretty buildings will help. Some of these old buildings are eyesores, quite honestly, but at the same time it's a shame to lose them.

If you know where Chargrill is, heading towards the capitol building and Chargrill would be on your left, take a right on Glenwood and then left on Morgan. Right past the bridge on the left is where this shop used to stand.

Oh, and about the Boylan/Hillsborough intersection, yes, there are 3 service stations on 4 of the corners. One of them I believe is empty and the one with the gas pumps looked empty last time I drove by.
 
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I spent a lot of time in downtown Raleigh last year helping test a new computer system for work. I stayed at the Sheraton, and I'm trying to picture which way it would be from there? I used to walk to "The Pit" to eat dinner, and a lot of the old buildings in that area resemble the one in your pictures. Thanks for sharing the pics and story.
 
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caspian65

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I spent a lot of time in downtown Raleigh last year helping test a new computer system for work. I stayed at the Sheraton, and I'm trying to picture which way it would be from there? I used to walk to "The Pit" to eat dinner, and a lot of the old buildings in that area resemble the one in your pictures. Thanks for sharing the pics and story.

I believe The Pit is on Davie St., so if you were to go north on Harrington and make a left onto Morgan, it would be up on your right, between West St. and Glenwood Ave. The building was right next to Wilson's Outdoor Equipment.
 

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Thank you, Caspian65, for taking the time to take us on that nostalgic tour. I hope you eventually acquired an MGB or plan to do so. The MGB celebrates its 50th anniversary next year, 2012.

Andy
 

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Thanks for the great photos and memories! I grew up in old garages like those in the photos, and remember the "grease" and exhaust smell of days gone by. My dad ran a garage for over thirty five years. I took it over and ran it for another 15. I had to clean out a lot of his accumilated "junk" after his death, which wasn't easy. I too was a pack-rat! But finding tools was never a problem in those days. I sure love seeing these kind of photos and memories. I have been there!
 
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