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GGB · Mar 30, 2012

I'd say you prepared a very good email! Well done, and gets the point across.

Regarding the screws and nails you missed, you are not alone. I'm building out another part of our basement, and just noticed a couple of places that I missed. And I'll bet I looked at those boards a dozen times before noticing them tonight.

GGB

nkachur · Mar 31, 2012

GGB said:
I'd say you prepared a very good email! Well done, and gets the point across.

Regarding the screws and nails you missed, you are not alone. I'm building out another part of our basement, and just noticed a couple of places that I missed. And I'll bet I looked at those boards a dozen times before noticing them tonight.

GGB

Yes my wife taught me that yelling at people over the phone doesn't fix anything. My position at work taught me that a letter or e-mail can have great effect if worded properly.

I still can't believe that I missed those nails.

BigWil · Mar 31, 2012

Your email suggests you have dealt with incompetent superiors during your career. lol

domecreek · Mar 31, 2012

Your E-Mail was appropriate. Without you, and many of us on this forum who have built, are intending to build, and/or are currently building, the Manitoba building inspector would not have a job.

Over-all, you should be pleased with yourself and what you accomplished this winter - I know what it is like to build in winter so your deficiencies are albeit important to rectify, yet also negligible.

The Inspector should have also been wowed by your one man "winter show !"

I know that members of this forum have certainly been "wowed."

nkachur · Mar 31, 2012

BigWil said:
Your email suggests you have dealt with incompetent superiors during your career. lol

Not just superiors. I really have a problem with people that just don't get treating other like they would like to be treated.

domecreek said:
Your E-Mail was appropriate. Without you, and many of us on this forum who have built, are intending to build, and/or are currently building, the Manitoba building inspector would not have a job.

Over-all, you should be pleased with yourself and what you accomplished this winter - I know what it is like to build in winter so your deficiencies are albeit important to rectify, yet also negligible.

The Inspector should have also been wowed by your one man "winter show !"

I know that members of this forum have certainly been "wowed."

Thank you for you vote of confidence. The issues he brought up were valid and will all be fixed. I can see some partial wall demo in my future. :bounce:

I got 2 sheets of roofing up today and took the boys into the childrens museum in Winnipeg.

It will take a little time but should not be too bad. Maybe by the end of next weekend if the weather is good.

Omphaloskeptic · Mar 31, 2012

"I got 2 sheets of roofing up today and took the boys into the childrens museum in Winnipeg."

Sounds like you have your priorities in order and are able to find balance in a busy life. Kudos to you!

nkachur · Mar 31, 2012

Omphaloskeptic said:
"I got 2 sheets of roofing up today and took the boys into the childrens museum in Winnipeg."

Sounds like you have your priorities in order and are able to find balance in a busy life. Kudos to you!

Well today I did set them right. Other days I could probably improve.

nkachur · Apr 1, 2012

Today was beautiful. Almost +20 Celsius.

But the wind was up and moving steel by my self wasn't looking so good. Only 1 sheet for the roof today. Did a bunch of yard work:

- Picked rocks
- cut disease out of my choke cherry trees
- burned a bunch of diseased wood
- cut some more pathways through the tree line for the boys
- drank some beer

All in all a good day.

shopnut · Apr 1, 2012

Dealing with that metal sheet by yourself, in the wind, can certainly be a handful. Probably was best to save that for a calmer day, for sure.

Drinking beer is a good backup plan

nkachur · Apr 6, 2012

shopnut said:
Dealing with that metal sheet by yourself, in the wind, can certainly be a handful. Probably was best to save that for a calmer day, for sure.

Drinking beer is a good backup plan

I agree, on all accounts. I got 2 sheets up on the far side today (so now a total of 5) The wind was howling so prepared 6 more to go up, cleaned up the overage from the concrete pour last October and hung out the rest of the day. Would it be fair to wish for the wind to die down?

If I actually make some progress I might have pictures tomorrow.

red85 · Apr 6, 2012

That's a great shop. It's a real space to do work; not some museum that will never see a wrench get turned or a nail driven. Bravo nkachur! Awesome job. From one canadian guy to another, I know how difficult it can be to get work done during our winters. I spent 5 years in Thunder Bay and I really learned to appreciate the warmer months (all 2 of them LOL).

Phil

nkachur · Apr 6, 2012

red85 said:
That's a great shop. It's a real space to do work; not some museum that will never see a wrench get turned or a nail driven. Bravo nkachur! Awesome job. From one Canadian guy to another, I know how difficult it can be to get work done during our winters. I spent 5 years in Thunder Bay and I really learned to appreciate the warmer months (all 2 of them LOL).

Phil

Thanks,

I am glad you like it. I definitely do, thanks for following along in my adventure. About the 2 months, you exagerate... it's only 1.5

red85 · Apr 6, 2012

nkachur said:
Thanks,

I am glad you like it. I definitely do, thanks for following along in my adventure. About the 2 months, you exagerate... it's only 1.5

we get a solid 2.5 down here in Southern Ontario! In all seriousness though; we've had a super mild winter and an early spring this year. Heck, I even rode my dirt bike into December! Looks like you've had the warmer weather up your way too. Hopefully, it sticks around for a while and I can get my shop fixed up.

nkachur · Apr 7, 2012

red85 said:
we get a solid 2.5 down here in Southern Ontario! In all seriousness though; we've had a super mild winter and an early spring this year. Heck, I even rode my dirt bike into December! Looks like you've had the warmer weather up your way too. Hopefully, it sticks around for a while and I can get my shop fixed up.

Yeah we had a very mild winter. Best of luck on the shop repairs.

The wind was even crazier today so no roofing. Did some other things around the shop. Moved my tool board over from the shed.

Repaired my electric drill and blew the fuse suppling the shop doing so. Here is the full story on that. I have a Ryobi Electric Hammer Drill (I think I posted pictures earlier in the tread) and using the drill in -20 degree weather the cable insulation cracked at the base of the drill. Then while I was using the drill to assemble my garage door the wire insulation also gave up the ghost and the drill arced out while I was using it, oops. So it has been waiting some TLC and today was the day. Opened up the drill and the cord was easily removed. I cut down the cord and stripped the wires. I grabbed my soldering gun to tin the exposed ends and plugged it in... or at least I though I plugged it in, picked up the gun and the wires on the bench arced out. I guess I accidentally plugged in the drill cord :headscrat

This story happens way to often around here. But all is OK, no injuries and had some spare fuses in a drawer. The drill is fixed :thumbup:

and I got some other cleanup done. Maybe the weather will be more co-operative tomorrow.

nkachur · Apr 8, 2012

Well I am thinking we have a repeat of yesterdays weather.

Calm morning now the wind is building by the moment. I got 3 sheets up today and the south side is nearing 1/2 done. I am going to go get some pictures. BRB

3 hrs untangling a kite string I am going to be seeing knots for days.

So here is the tool board in it's new temorary home

Sheets ready for install tomorrow

So I'm not done half but here is where it stands

And pictures from up on the roof

I also cut the first piece of ridge vent and the capping for it but I didn't take pictures. I think I am going to head out to cut some pieces of plywood for the missus to build a hay trough for the pony.

nkachur · Apr 10, 2012

Nothing much to see so no pictures.

I am 1/2 done sheeting the south side of the shop. It was a crisp calm night here and I got up 2 more sheets of metal and 1 piece of drip edge. I hate puting up the drip edge on the high side.

dlenkewich · Apr 10, 2012

That's and interesting flag you have there.

Saskatchewan native perhaps? Or do you pay respect to all provinces in your new shop?

Things are looking great. Keep it up!

nkachur · Apr 11, 2012

dlenkewich said:
That's and interesting flag you have there.

Saskatchewan native perhaps? Or do you pay respect to all provinces in your new shop?

Things are looking great. Keep it up!

Yes, I quite like both flags and what they represent and yes I was born and raised in Saskatchewan. As for as paying respect to the other provinces, you can say I'm a little biased.

Thanks for checking in and the compliments.

SARG · Apr 11, 2012

Raw metal roofing directly applied to OSB without polymer fabric or tar paper is a technique I haven't seen before.

nkachur · Apr 13, 2012

SARG said:
Raw metal roofing directly applied to OSB without polymer fabric or tar paper is a technique I haven't seen before.

Well this question had crossed my mind before (very briefly) so you bringing it up prompted a trip to the lumber yard.

I talked to my salesman about this and a few other metal roof questions.

1) q) Is it normally installed directly on purlins or OSB?
a) There are some materials you can put underneath but most guys don't. Not puting anything under will not affect your warantee.

2) q) I think I do not have enough stitch screws. How far apart am I supposted to install them on the seams?
a) (a quick phone call to the manufacturer) every 2-4 feet

3) q) What are the lengths of anchor screws available?
a) 1 1/2", 2 1/2", 3"

So it looks OK the way things are being installed. I will have to buy some more stitch screws as I have been installing them every 8".

I am going to start a post of things I would do differently next build. I suspect this will be the trial run for the final build.

Lastly the weather ***** tonight (rain) and I ran myself into the ground yesterday, so there has been no progress for a couple days. I will get some sleep tonight and hopefully put in a long day tomorrow.

nkachur · Apr 13, 2012

Things I would do different:

1) lay out the lifts of gravel for the base using screets
- trying to level the base one bucket load at a time was a huge pain.
2) ensure that I discuss the build more with the lumber yard
- ensure that I fully understand everything that they are planning
- ensure they fully understand every thing that I am planning
3) If I need to have plans drawn again ensure that things like door and header framing are fully specified.
4) Install several runs of conduit under the slab for add ons and any future plans.
5) ensure I am fully informed of when my inspections must be carried out and what they entail.
6) Ensure trusses are designed for easier installation (half trusses on leanto)
7) Have better a plan for installing blocking on the roof
-perlins then sheathing?
- Thicker roof sheathing?
- I really hate H-Clips
8) Stand up very large walls in pieces
- shoulder injury (still healing)
- house of cards syndrome (just about cried)
9) Get more than 1 quote/ idea of price (my father figured $25,000, that was a bit off)
10) A real hammer drill is a wonderful thing for drilling wedge anchors in.

I will come up with more and update this list everytime I do. I will add a comment to my current post and a index link to this. (thanks for another great idea SHOPNUT)

Joedee · Apr 14, 2012

Hey nkachur

This is my first post on the forum. Have been lurking for while and am getting close to posting my first introduction/build announcement.

Did you have Stonewall as your local governing jurisdiction, or did you have to deal with Winnipeg?

I work for a commercial general contracting company in Winnipeg, and am not looking forward to dealing with the jurisdictional "personalities". The lack of calorie burning in the public sector is laughable.

Who supplied your garage package?

Oh btw, I paid $400 for my engineering, and that is with me doing ALL the drafting, that is just a stamp. And, this is a firm we use regularly. I was thinking our "relationship" would've helped out with my bill, apparently not.

So using what you paid, $400 (the difference) for the drafting isn't too bad.

What a great winter you've had for the build. I envy your lack of lot size limitations. I'm only allowed to do 612 sq. ft..

After I meet with the bank, I'll be starting. It won't be cold, but I'll be walking around with 6" of gumbo under my boots!

nkachur · Apr 14, 2012

Joedee said:
Hey nkachur

This is my first post on the forum. Have been lurking for while and am getting close to posting my first introduction/build announcement.

Did you have Stonewall as your local governing jurisdiction, or did you have to deal with Winnipeg?

Thanks for making my tread you first post. Welcome to the garage journal. I am in Rockwood so South Interlake Planning District is the inspection agency.

I work for a commercial general contracting company in Winnipeg, and am not looking forward to dealing with the jurisdictional "personalities". The lack of calorie burning in the public sector is laughable.

Who supplied your garage package?!

I got my package thru Rockwood Lumber in Tuelon. They have been very good to deal with overall. I have had problems in the past with North American Lumber in Stonewall, the manager has screwed up a number of my orders in the past so I will not deal wityh them anymore.

Oh btw, I paid $400 for my engineering, and that is with me doing ALL the drafting, that is just a stamp. And, this is a firm we use regularly. I was thinking our "relationship" would've helped out with my bill, apparently not.

So using what you paid, $400 (the difference) for the drafting isn't too bad. !

It seemed very expensive, especially for something I think I could have done on my own. Heck I had everything pretty well drafted up in Schetchup before I went in. But I must say the draftsman, Bilsky in Selkirk has been very helpful with the few questions I have had since the drawings were completed. So maybe it was worth it just for his expertise.

What a great winter you've had for the build. I envy your lack of lot size limitations. I'm only allowed to do 612 sq. ft..

After I meet with the bank, I'll be starting. It won't be cold, but I'll be walking around with 6" of gumbo under my boots!

Well best of luck and let me know when you start your thread I always like seeing what others put together.

hidollartoys · Apr 15, 2012

Just purchased a 40' x 80' x 12' steel building and the engineering/drawings are $1100.00.

nkachur · Apr 15, 2012

hidollartoys said:
Just purchased a 40' x 80' x 12' steel building and the engineering/drawings are $1100.00.

Wow, is it a custom building? If it is is it a complicated structure?

Honestly I can't understand how people think their time is worth so much, it really is crazy.

nkachur · Apr 15, 2012

Update for this weekend:
- yesterday was beautiful. We got rain on Friday night so it took part of the day for the roof to dry.
- I got a reasonable number of sheets up on the roof, I should have worked later though as the weather today again *****. Winds gusting to 60 km/hr.
- I have been working on getting blocking up in the roof of the lean-to today.

I really want to get this roof on, cleaning up the rain inside *****.

nkachur · Apr 15, 2012

Here are this weekends pictures:

Omphaloskeptic · Apr 15, 2012

Almost roofed; great progress for a one-man effort!

WORK SAFE!

shopnut · Apr 16, 2012

nkachur said:
Things I would do different:

1)... /snip/

I will come up with more and update this list everytime I do. I will add a comment to my current post and a index link to this. (thanks for another great idea SHOPNUT)

This is a great list for the rest of us to learn from - excellent idea to post it up.

OH NO, people are following my lead on the index thing - God help us all!

Thanks for the mention. You will help others as well as yourself by including the links to key information at the beginning of your thread. You would be surprised how much I actually use the extra stuff I've inserted in the first three posts of my thread.

I'm glad to see that roof metal covering the OSB - I'm getting a little worried for you with the snow transitioning to rain. :wtf:

nkachur · Apr 16, 2012

Omphaloskeptic said:
Almost roofed; great progress for a one-man effort!

WORK SAFE!

Thanks, I am religious about the harness. Not only does it make me feel better it allows the chicken part of me to tackle the jobs near the edge.

shopnut said:
This is a great list for the rest of us to learn from - excellent idea to post it up.

OH NO, people are following my lead on the index thing - God help us all!
Thanks for the mention. You will help others as well as yourself by including the links to key information at the beginning of your thread. You would be surprised how much I actually use the extra stuff I've inserted in the first three posts of my thread.

I'm glad to see that roof metal covering the OSB - I'm getting a little worried for you with the snow transitioning to rain.

It is coming. It was a beautiful night tonight, unfortunately only got 3 sheets on. But that is 3 more than I did yesterday :rocker:

I can see getting some of the fluorescent lights wired up sooner than later. It sure gets dark in there for some projects at night.

I really hope the weather co-operates for tomorrow.

nkachur · Apr 18, 2012

No photo update:

Main Shop South side roof sheeted
Main Shop North Side Roof one sheet past 1/2 done

Probably won't get much done tomorrow but will get and post some pictures

BigWil · Apr 19, 2012

Looking good.

Thorky · Apr 19, 2012

Looks like it's coming along nicely, that size of shop is a lot of work for one man.

What are you planning on the inside? Drywall? Tin? Plywood?

nkachur · Apr 19, 2012

Thorky said:
Looks like it's coming along nicely, that size of shop is a lot of work for one man.

What are you planning on the inside? Drywall? Tin? Plywood?

Yes it is. I figured it was not going to be a very big project, boy was I wrong. Interior is going to be mostly pianted OSB. The office will be gyproc. The lower part (8') of the back wall will get some sheet metal to help protect from welding / grinding sparks. I may fine tune this plan a little as I go.

I see you started a shop thread. I will have to go check it out. :beer:

nkachur · Apr 19, 2012

BigWil said:
Looking good.

It is coming :thumbup:

nkachur · Apr 19, 2012

So here are the progress pictures from last night. The winds were up tonight so didn't get nothing done.

The Sheeted south side.

Here is the overhanging portion on the front wall

It went a wee bit crooked (1/4")

and the eaves end of the south wall

Maybe not quite perfect, but as good as it is going to get by myself.

And lastly a progress picture of the Main shop North Side

Maybe more tomorrow.

shopnut · Apr 20, 2012

nkachur said:
It went a wee bit crooked (1/4")

UNACCEPTABLE! Tear it all down and start over! :lol:

Nevermind, it looks great from my point of view. :thumbup:

nkachur · Apr 21, 2012

shopnut said:
UNACCEPTABLE! Tear it all down and start over!

Never mind, it looks great from my point of view.

I know

...

I don't know if I can live with it.

The sign of a true professional is not making mistakes it is the ability to make the mistakes look intentional, right.

Anyways I digress. Had a birthday party this morning and part of the afternoon so not huge progress but I am down to my last sheet on the main roof. It is all prepped to go up so that should be done tomorrow.

Got 1 x 14/3 wire ran for the main shop lighting but never got to the lumberyard for OSB to mount the lights on. Might have lights working in the shop by mid next week.

Tomorrow's plans:
- prep kids petal bikes for season
- work on the kids work benches (maybe finish them)
- more roofing
- more work on lights wiring
- maybe move work bench over from garage.
- update avitar

I am not likely to get it all done but oh well :lol_hitti

Omphaloskeptic · Apr 22, 2012

I love making to-do lists; they give me a chuckle later in the day when I realize I got a bunch of stuff started/finished that never made it to the list. lol

" ... But little Mouse, you are not alone,
In proving foresight may be vain:
The best laid schemes of mice and men
Go often awry,
And leave us nothing but grief and pain,
For promised joy! ..." (from a poem by Robert Burns)

domecreek · Apr 22, 2012

My wife gives me to-do lists - I call them my trap-line. Depends on the traffic in Edmonton as to how many of her to-do items I get to stroke off.

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