The 964 Cubbyhole

964nut · Jul 30, 2012

After lurking and searching here for several months, I decided to jump right in. I Have a 3 car garage that needs serious attention.

Seven years ago we had our house built, and I intended in keeping the garage fairely clean and unclotered. That didn't last very long. I ended up building a half wall for my pride and joy so the kids could stay away with the bikes and scooters. I have 3 boys that just walk in and throw there stuff all over the garage. So scratches on the family and comuter cars are very frequent and unavoidable.

By motorico964 at 2012-07-30

By motorico964 at 2012-07-30

This is how clean the garage looked few years back,...

964nut · Jul 30, 2012

Now the garage is a mess and can't find my tools half the time. The garage is still on bare drywall, thge ceilling is unpainted and the bugs have taken shelter along and inside my windows,..... time to realy clean the place.

By motorico964 at 2012-07-30

964nut · Jul 31, 2012

I don't have CAD equipment to show what I want to accomplish, but I have a good idea. I plan to utilize the double bay side for tinkering on my cars and bikes, and seperating it from the other single bay door, which will be use for the kids and their stuff.

This past weekend my wife and I clean out the junk, removed most of the stuff from the garage and we painted the walls and ceilling. I also took the oportunity to frame up a wall between the double side garge from the single side. This wall will be use mostly as a seperation from a decent working are and to put up wall and base cabinets as well. I have very limited wood working skils, but willing to try if it'll save me a few bucks. I am on a budget to accomplish the whole garage remodeling, and that is why most if not all will be done by me.

I welcome any suggestions from this comunity as you all have seen much more than I, and wouldn't mind bennefitting from the vast experience shared on this Furum.

I have a 32 feet by 20 ft. 3 car garage, however I will be using the double sided garage door only for my remodeling project, which is in total of approximately 22 ft. x 20 ft. (440 sq ft.).

By motorico964 at 2012-07-30

By motorico964 at 2012-07-30

So this is pretty much it for this week, but I am planning on doing the electrical this coming weekend as well as starting the cabinet framing. The walls are gray primer (Killz 2 with 12 onze of pure black in a 5 gallon) it's pretty much the color I was after, but do you guys think it should be painted as well? I was kind of hoping to hit 2 birds with one stone by priming the wall with a colored primer.

cgall · Jul 31, 2012

I think that gray looks good. I painted my garage all white, and I get lots of bugs and spider webs everywhere in no time. Next time I will go gray.

Here is a storage solution I found on here awhile back that you might be able to use:

JMURiz · Jul 31, 2012

Color looks good, goes well with the dark blue 964...now what's the story with the 2-stroke Yamaha?

NickTheNut · Jul 31, 2012

Looks great! I love that you get two bays, while the kids get one. In my house I get... no bays. And my daughter isn't even old enough to really "need" space!

964nut · Jul 31, 2012

Thanks cgall, that's a very efficient way to store in a pretty much dead space. I will certainly pick on that idea.

964nut · Jul 31, 2012

JMURiz said:
Color looks good, goes well with the dark blue 964...now what's the story with the 2-stroke Yamaha?

Thanks, I sort of cheated I pick the color based on the results most have experienced on here.

As for the 2 stroke smoker,... well it's a very long story,... going on 11 years :eyecrazy:

It started as a Canadian RZ500, then I added and moded and fabricated,...
The project is still not finished it need a good paint job and other bits.

Here enjoy if your a fan

By motorico964 at 2012-07-31

By motorico964 at 2012-07-31

Short clip of when I finally got it started with the larger mikuni

55cadillacking · Jul 31, 2012

Looking forward to the end result. I have a feeling it will be awesome!

964nut · Aug 1, 2012

55cadillacking said:
Looking forward to the end result. I have a feeling it will be awesome!

Thanks Rick, your garage is awsome, it has been a huge source of inspiration for mine. I really like all of the wall art and what you've done with the stripping and the contrasting color on the wall.

I've tried some red paint stripe on wall and when I removed the tape, the whole paint came off, even the base coat (wall color). I only did this in the corner just to see what it would look like,... didnt turn out great for me.

I am debating if vinyl colored tape would work great,.. or will it remove the paint and the paper from the drywall if I ever had to remove it one day. :dunno:

55cadillacking · Aug 1, 2012

964nut said:
Thanks Rick, your garage is awsome, it has been a huge source of inspiration for mine. I really like all of the wall art and what you've done with the stripping and the contrasting color on the wall.

I've tried some red paint stripe on wall and when I removed the tape, the whole paint came off, even the base coat (wall color). I only did this in the corner just to see what it would look like,... didnt turn out great for me.

I am debating if vinyl colored tape would work great,.. or will it remove the paint and the paper from the drywall if I ever had to remove it one day.

Thanks for the compliment. I never think of my garage as inspring to others, but I guess we all do feed off each other's passion.

When it comes to using tape I only use Frog Tape. I used some cheap green tape and had the same thing happen. The Frog Tape is the only way to go imho. As far as vinyl goes, I think it is risky. I had one vinyl graphic that I removed and it took everything with it. I had to re-putty the wall pretty much and sand it back to smooth. PITA! In hindsight, I'm glad I took my time with the paint design. I had it all white for a long time before adding finishing touches. Whatever you choose to do, I'm sure it will look good.

Best of luck,

~ Rick

JMURiz · Aug 1, 2012

964nut said:
Thanks, I sort of cheated I pick the color based on the results most have experienced on here.

As for the 2 stroke smoker,... well it's a very long story,... going on 11 years

It started as a Canadian RZ500, then I added and moded and fabricated,...
The project is still not finished it need a good paint job and other bits.

Here enjoy if your a fan

Very cool, love the two-stroke bikes...I sold my small 4-stroke bikes (Bandit 400 and FZR400) but still have a Ducati 80cc 2-stroke project I'll work on once my car stuff is all done. Random note: I found a muffler-less NOS factory expansion chamber pipe for the Ducati, just need to find a correct size chrome muffler and get crackin on the restoration.

964nut · Aug 6, 2012

Ok, a little more progress here. I learned how to built cabinets this weekend. Just a bit of plywood, glue and a good nail gun. My wife was able to paint as fast as I was puting them together.

By motorico964 at 2012-08-06

I know most would say " you should have started with the floor",.. but my budget does not allow it for now, perhaps next spring.
I aslo started some wall decoration, just to see. Nothing original here, but I really like the looks of the strpes mid-wall.

By motorico964 at 2012-08-06

M-technik-3 · Aug 7, 2012

Nice Yamaha, I used to live in Japan, while there I had a TZR 500. fun bike without a doubt.

A_Pmech · Aug 7, 2012

This thread is incorrectly titled....

It should be "The RZ500 Cubbyhole, 500cc's of twin crankshaft goodness"

:thumbup:

964nut · Sep 2, 2012

It's been a while since my last post. Just updating my progress. To be honest, I haven't had a chance to work much in the garage lately due to other priorities, and lots of work related travel. But since I finished the cabinets, put on a conter top (home depot), and put up some wall art. I am still undicided what will be the floor. I lean to ceramic tile, than a bit leary about the grout lines being dirty from frequent oil spill. I also like the look or race deck type flooring, but would put me out of my budget for now.

By motorico964 at 2012-09-02

55cadillacking · Sep 2, 2012

Oh yes, I was waiting to see your progress. Looks great. I would highly recommend a Race Deck floor in there over tile. Much more practical and you could do some wild color scheme that incorporates the colors you have already put up. Black, Red, and Blue. Awesome. Looking fwd to even more progress.

964nut · Dec 31, 2013

This is how I used to work on my cars, in very cramped spaces...

964nut · Dec 31, 2013

Now I have plenty of room. Santa (wife) got me a scissor lift for Xmas. I think I may cut into the floor to recess the lift " a la Jack Olsen".

Anyone with advise on how to do this procedure? What am I looking for in doing such project.

Thanks
Stephane

lisiecki1 · Dec 31, 2013

Hey Stephane,

Where did your cabinet doors come from?

Jack Olsen · Dec 31, 2013

That's looking great! I like the cabinet work a lot.

With tile, if you go with a brown/dark-gray/black grout, you will never have to worry about staining (or even sealing) the stuff.

To recess the lift, it'd not very difficult -- but it does feel like you're making a huge leap when you do it. Just work out the design, rent a concrete saw, drill s few holes for the rebar and mix some concrete. For that kind of lift, I'd recess the thing with an extra inch above it, then make a 2" lip all around the pit that is also 1" deep. You can set a piece of plywood over the whole thing when you're not using it and you'll have 100% useable floor space. (And if you want to get fancy, you could even work slush/water drainage into the lip.)

Zeke · Dec 31, 2013

Yes to what Jack said and make sure you get good attachment from new to old. That's not going to be easy to do as the concrete slab is likely 3.5" thick. If you recess your new pad down anywhere near that your rebar will be difficult to hit the edge of the old slab and into the new w/o some thinking on the design.

Following along Jack's line of thought, you would add a section that is actually flush (or with his idea of a depression for plywood) all around the perimeter. Call it a footing if you will. Within the perimeter would be your actual recess. Think of a rectangular baking dish with thick sides. Your rebar will reside in the lower pad, bend up 90º within the side perimeter and then again 90º into the existing slab. It is imperative that you get this right or the new pad may sink and become out of level.

That brings up one more idea: make the new pad level instead of following the slope of the floor. I have worked under a scissors lift that was on the slightly sloped garage floor and I was not totally comfortable. It wasn't even fully raised. By doing this project you will be able to have the lift on a level surface.

Ed Litsch · Dec 31, 2013

That place looks pretty nice!! Cool rides, too!! :thumbup:

964nut · Jan 15, 2014

Sorry took me a while to come back on here.

lisiecki1 said:
Hey Stephane,

Where did your cabinet doors come from?

I made the doors too. Not the one on the tall stand-alone cabinet. That was an old Sears cabinet that I demoed and recycled to my spec and re-used the doors only. But the other wall and counter cabinet doors I made using 1/2" plywood (cabinet grade).

Jack Olsen said:
That's looking great! I like the cabinet work a lot.

With tile, if you go with a brown/dark-gray/black grout, you will never have to worry about staining (or even sealing) the stuff.

To recess the lift, it'd not very difficult -- but it does feel like you're making a huge leap when you do it. Just work out the design, rent a concrete saw, drill s few holes for the rebar and mix some concrete. For that kind of lift, I'd recess the thing with an extra inch above it, then make a 2" lip all around the pit that is also 1" deep. You can set a piece of plywood over the whole thing when you're not using it and you'll have 100% useable floor space. (And if you want to get fancy, you could even work slush/water drainage into the lip.)

Thanks for the tips Jack. I am still not sure if I'll use tile or race deck, but tile would be much cheaper for me since I can do the install myself.

Zeke said:
That brings up one more idea: make the new pad level instead of following the slope of the floor. I have worked under a scissors lift that was on the slightly sloped garage floor and I was not totally comfortable. It wasn't even fully raised. By doing this project you will be able to have the lift on a level surface.

Very good point Zeke, I didnt think of that. Yes, this is a flaw in my garage. I guess they are all build that way. I have an 11.5 feet of clearance but the floor is very slanted and I have to think about how to lift the car since most of the weight is in the rear. Now having a leveld recess cavity in the floor, would allow me to lift the car either way.

55cadillacking · Jan 15, 2014

964nut said:
Thanks for the tips Jack. I am still not sure if I'll use tile or race deck, but tile would be much cheaper for me since I can do the install myself.

By no means am I an expert DIY'er, but I managed to install my RaceDeck myself. All you need is a good table/mitre saw. I vote for RaceDeck!

964nut · Jan 15, 2014

55cadillacking said:
By no means am I an expert DIY'er, but I managed to install my RaceDeck myself. All you need is a good table/mitre saw. I vote for RaceDeck!

Yeah, actually what I meant was for the cost of the race deck flooring I could install tile for half of that. I have priced race deck system and for 440 sq/ft it would be well over $2K delivered to my house. I can tile this for less than a grand.

55cadillacking · Jan 15, 2014

Oh, yes, the cost difference is substantial. My wife made me complete a "pro/con" list between RD and epoxy prior to making my decision. Cost wasn't a huge factor as they were about the same price, but it's a pretty important decision so it pays in the long run to weigh all the factors, cost being an important one. Good luck with your decision. I still vote for RaceDeck!

BeachBoy · Jan 15, 2014

more of the 964s!!!

I am looking for a cab (ideally an America Roadster but will settle for a C2 manual for budget reasons) and absolutely love these cars.

Please share some details on the cars, I see a blue one, is that a Maritime Blue (my favorite color)

Kevkx125 · Jan 15, 2014

Hey 964nut love the Yamaha smoker, need more details and pics. Nice job on remodel of garage space. I live southern berks co., maybe not that far away?

mattyschopshop · Jan 15, 2014

hello neighbor nice cars and space

Vernon29RW · Jan 15, 2014

Could you share the make/model of your scissor lift? That seems a lot higher up than I ever imagined those lifts to go. It's a great height for working and I'm really interested in it. Thanks in advance!

Steve

964nut · Jan 17, 2014

For the fan of 964, the car is a 1992 Carrera 2, 5spd. It is Midnight Blue Metalic (still is) and was vinyl wrapped last year to protect the paint as I do agressive Autocross events with the car. First pic is as it was when I purchased a while ago. The other pics are as it transformed over the years. The last two pictures are from a couple weeks ago with the turbo tail installed.

The lift actually goes higher than in the picture. It is the TD6MR from Atlas sold at Greg Smith Equipment. I think total height is like 56" of the ground.

BeachBoy · Jan 17, 2014

Looks so good with the wrap. Might have to do the same as its almost impossible to buy a maritime blue (saw two for sale in the was two years)

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55cadillacking · Jan 17, 2014

Jack Olsen said:
That's looking great! I like the cabinet work a lot.

With tile, if you go with a brown/dark-gray/black grout, you will never have to worry about staining (or even sealing)

So, am I to understand the primary reason behind sealing grout is to protect it from staining? I assumed it somehow strengthened the grout and helped it repel moisture. Was I off base?

STANIMAL · Jan 17, 2014

Nice setup and great toys .

BHR4CE1 · Jan 17, 2014

Here's a few links to the pics of my flush mount lift prep. Hope it helps.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1449155&postcount=42

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1461738&postcount=53

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1468468&postcount=54

Jack Olsen · Jan 18, 2014

Zeke said:
That brings up one more idea: make the new pad level instead of following the slope of the floor. I have worked under a scissors lift that was on the slightly sloped garage floor and I was not totally comfortable. It wasn't even fully raised. By doing this project you will be able to have the lift on a level surface.

Yes! My floor was wavy, and had a very slight slope to it. I poured the new base for the lift dead level. I was able to make some adjustment with the adjoining tiles to correct the transitions between the crazy floor and the lift.

55cadillacking said:
So, am I to understand the primary reason behind sealing grout is to protect it from staining? I assumed it somehow strengthened the grout and helped it repel moisture. Was I off base?

I'm no expert. But my unsealed grout has held up to a lot of abuse for over five years now. It's never given me any trouble. And being dark brown, nothing has stained it. And it gets motor oil, gear oil, grease and an assortment of paints.

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