40X40 Idaho Toy Box

powerhound · Jan 5, 2013

After years and years of working with my dad in his shop, I decided it was time to break open the piggy bank and build my own. I have no good reason (other than money) for waiting this long, but now that I've started I'm really impatient.

Started with clearing off a bunch of top soil so I coulld get down to constructing the gravel pad.

Six loads of rock later(truck and pup)

Next we trenched out for the footer and plumbing and floor drain

We poured the footer and then framed up and put down the vapor barrier, 2" foam board, mesh, steel and tubing.

An early morning bad picture from my wifes cell phone of the pour starting

I just realized that I must have put the rest of the slab pictures on my other computer so I'll put them up shortly. Weather has me shut down now, but I've got my 2 man doors with windows, 4 windows 4'x6', 2 insulated roll up doors 10'x16', 24 T5 HO 4' lights and most of my electrical stuff that I need. I just need a box to put it all in.

ConCretin · Jan 6, 2013

Looking great. Glad you were able to wade thru all the advice you got on your other thread about your slab reinforcing.

Can I ask a dumb question? What are the things sticking up through the vapor barrier and insulation? Screed supports?

Keep the pics coming.

powerhound · Jan 6, 2013

LLWillysfan said:
Can I ask a dumb question? What are the things sticking up through the vapor barrier and insulation? Screed supports?

Keep the pics coming.

Not a dumb question at all and yes, you are correct. It was just a way for a couple guys that don't do concrete prefessionaly to keep the right slope toward the center floor drain.
Like I said, due to weather, pics will be a while before they start flowing again :sad:

powerhound · Jan 18, 2013

Picked up my lumber package today and ordered my roll up doors. I got the snow blown off my slab yesterday and framing starts Monday.

powerhound · Jan 23, 2013

We're making progress inspite of the weather.

ishiboo · Jan 23, 2013

Great size, stick built... what's not to love?

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Chris705 · Jan 23, 2013

Powerhound - can I ask more info about the wall jacks? I plan on starting my wall framing for a very similar build this spring....(I will wait for the snow to melt). Regarding the jacks, looks like your walls are 12' in height? Any problems you could see if they were 14' tall in lifting them? My build will be 40x44 and would love to frame and sheath flat on the ground, I was considering standing the framing and sheathing in seperate steps due to the inability to lift as one big wall. BUT seeing you use a jack has my hopes up!! You reinforced the 2x once you lifted to a certain height....would more jacks have helped with the lift? Or is that standard procedure when you use jacks? Were you at the max weight with the 3 jacks I see? Thanks for any input!

powerhound · Jan 23, 2013

Yes, 12' high and no problems lifting mine. You might have to do a little reinforcing, but 14' shouldn't be a problem with the wall already sheeted.

powerhound · Jan 23, 2013

90# snow load trusses

powerhound · Jan 23, 2013

Awesome tool I found today for doing my lighting layout while searching other threads. Turns out I'll be buying way more fixtures than I once thought :headscrat

rumpity_z28 · Jan 23, 2013

Wow those trusses look like they are made out of 4x4's

powerhound · Jan 24, 2013

sfd524 · Jan 25, 2013

Looking good!

Worldpowerlabs · Jan 25, 2013

Very, very nice!

bknudtsen · Jan 25, 2013

Wow! Nice build. What a beautiful view!

jdunereaper1 · Jan 26, 2013

Thats a nice looking shop you are building there, and you couldnt be building it in a more beautiful part of the country! Sorry, the 9B license plates on your truck gave it away. I am originally from Bonners Ferry and still have a lot of family up there. Dont ever take the beauty up there for granted! I miss it every day living down here in Arizona. Good luck with the shop build.

Modifieddriver · Jan 26, 2013

powerhound said:
Awesome tool I found today for doing my lighting layout while searching other threads. Turns out I'll be buying way more fixtures than I once thought

From what I saw, you have single bulb fixtures. You can change that to a 2, 3 or 4 bulb fixture. Use T8, T5 and TP HO.

powerhound · Jan 27, 2013

Not sure where you saw a single bulb fixture. Heck, I don't even have wire yet. I ordered 25 T5HO dual bulb lights. Should be in the 1 1/2 watt per sq ft range when done.

T_Raven · Jan 27, 2013

Looking good. Where in Idaho are ya? Obviously up north with that much snow lol. I live in IF now but I went to high school in Grangeville

powerhound · Jan 27, 2013

I'm half way between Bonners Ferry and Sandpoint. Roughly 40 miles south of Canada.

CamarosRus · Jan 27, 2013

Curious why anybody would want windows that low as I think they can be a security issue.

I would have placed 48 x 12" windows (if at all) much higher off the ground.

Are the multi layered heavier trusses for the snow load ????

Also suggest you search craigs list for used pallet rack to store misc parts equipment
off the floor and take advantage of your cubic feet and not just sq feet.

ishiboo · Jan 27, 2013

CamarosRus said:
Curious why anybody would want windows that low as I think they can be a security issue.

I would have placed 48 x 12" windows (if at all) much higher off the ground.

Are the multi layered heavier trusses for the snow load ????

Also suggest you search craigs list for used pallet rack to store misc parts equipment
off the floor and take advantage of your cubic feet and not just sq feet.

Many people live in areas where security is not the #1 concern - having a nice-looking building you can see out of when working inside is. My 30x40 had windows up high and I hated it.

I don't see any "multi layered" or 4x4 trusses - all appear to be standard single 2x lumber. Snow load would just dictate the truss design and spacing.

Cougfan · Jan 27, 2013

Great looking shop! I am planning to start a stick-frame shop this upcoming summer, so I really appreciate all of the pics. Keep them coming!! Also, beautiful building site and view.

powerhound · Jan 27, 2013

Curious why anybody would want windows that low as I think they can be a security issue.

My driveway is a 1/4 mile long behind a gate. My closest neighbor is 1000' away and my home security system has a response time of 3200 fps so security wasn't my biggest concern for window placement. One 200#+ Mastiff and a 100#+ Lab are another help in home defense

I would have placed 48 x 12" windows (if at all) much higher off the ground.

I want to be able to see out my windows in case there is a deer or some other tasty critter that might wander by in season and still have a big enough window to shoot out of.

Are the multi layered heavier trusses for the snow load ????

No multi layered trusses, just lots of them with extra beef for the 90# snow load.

Also suggest you search craigs list for used pallet rack to store misc parts equipment
off the floor and take advantage of your cubic feet and not just sq feet.

I'm building hanging storage above the floor rather than putting pallet racks on the floor.

powerhound · Mar 13, 2013

Weather slowed me down a bit but finally making some more progress.

Cougfan · Mar 13, 2013

Looks great. What pitch is your roof? I was planning on a 4/12 with composite, but everyone keeps saying that I should go metal to shed the snow. The way I figure, is let it stay on there as long as it is strong enough. Glad to see someone else going with composite too.

powerhound · Mar 16, 2013

Mine is 5/12 and I went with the comp for the opposite reason. I want to hold the snow so it doesn't shed and block my door or pile up against the shop. Dark colored roof and good heat should help a controled melt and water management. Mine are 90# trusses to handle the load if need be.

powerhound · Apr 19, 2013

I got about 90% of the ceiling painted and then it cooled off too much to finish, so I had to wait on insulation to sheet the walls. Walls are now insulated, wires are 100% pulled and the wall sheeting is about 75% done. When it warms up, I'll finish painting the lid and then grind the floor and paint that before I paint the walls. Spring has been more like winter, so things just keep taking longer and longer.

ed_v · Apr 19, 2013

Very nice.... Love the size and the red siding.

Could you tell me what size of side windows you went with? Those look like a nice size.

Ed

Flatland Dave · Apr 19, 2013

Nice build Powerhound. I spent some time along Hwy 95 as well.

mdkingsley · Apr 19, 2013

Looks very nice and should give you a good place to work.

powerhound · Apr 19, 2013

ed_v said:
Could you tell me what size of side windows you went with? Those look like a nice size.

Ed

Thanks Ed. The windows are 4'X6' and there's 4 of them + the door windows, so there's plenty of natural light as well as the lighting I went with.

powerhound · Apr 23, 2013

A couple of SWEET Craigslist scores this week

I love shop toys.

andyaus · Apr 24, 2013

I'm always impressed when a build is achieved in extreme weather conditions, what a great size too.....

patent pending · Apr 24, 2013

Nice place...that has a great look to it! Good home for your new craigslist scores for sure.

powerhound · Apr 24, 2013

andyaus said:
I'm always impressed when a build is achieved in extreme weather conditions, what a great size too.....

Weather has been a challenge for sure, but I guess it is everywhere. Amazing what we can get "use to"

Blk88GT · Apr 24, 2013

Looks great!

SiGmA_X · Apr 24, 2013

Great looking shop. And 1/4mi driveway sounds amazing!

powerhound · Apr 24, 2013

SiGmA_X said:
Great looking shop. And 1/4mi driveway sounds amazing!

The privacy is nice. The next "big" expense after the shop is done will be paving :sad:

powerhound · Jun 11, 2013

Not being home all the time has turned this project into a much longer drawn out process than I could have ever imagined. Last week, I finally got all the paint done. Next is the floor. A day of grinding, a day of prep and hopefully a day of painting.

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