Above 1200 Sq/FT The ASYLUM - Happy 40th Birthday to Me! (Est. 2005)

shopnut · Mar 3, 2014

akdiesel - Thanks. Just getting it in the shop was a big load off my shoulders (and the trailer

). That's junkman with the ape or something for his avatar, right? (chime in if your reading junkman - I'll take any advice anyone has to offer). Was there a thread that discussed it that I could search on?

I'm guessing you meant the engine hoist(?) - I was planning to use that as a safety to hold things up as I crane others into position.

I foresee a couple of tricky moments doing this by myself. First, dropping the cross-tubes into the 100" high columns. It seems the columns are not real stable by themselves due to the base plate being welded offset to the inside (they can easily fall to the outside). I'm planning to use something to help hold them up until the cross-tube is slid down in them. Are the cross-tube slider blocks a pretty tight fit in the columns, or kind of loose so they just drop in? Second, once the two ends are put together, I'll need to be careful not to push them over when dropping the first runway on them. I'll just take my time and hopefully me and the cars won't get hurt this coming weekend!

JCQuick - Yep, you know me - the camera will be snapping the whole time. I have a wrist watch camera now, so it shouldn't slow me down much

Looking at my records - The order was placed a 2/12, serial number plate states a Date of Manufacture on 2/18 and shipping papers shows it shipped out that same day, and delivery to FL on 02/26. I was impressed, especially considering they told me there was quite a wait for the black one. And yes, I should have the latest and greatest (but I have nothing to compare it too.

BTW, I'm not going to be anchoring it down. It sounds like they are pretty stable without it. But thanks for watching out for me!

shopnut · Mar 3, 2014

USING THE JIB CRANE TO UNLOAD THE CAR LIFT…

If it weren’t for the crane, this would have been a multi-person job. I could lift the 100” tall columns, but they were pushing the limits of my back. The runways are probably around 500 lbs each. I’ll admit it took quite a while to unwrap the parts and take them off the trailer. I was trying to be careful to not add any more scuffs or scratches to the numerous ones that were already there. BendPak did a decent job of placing cardboard between the various parts, but the long trip from CA had rubbed through at the sharp contact points and it was metal-to-metal contact by the time it arrived in FL.

What complicated the job the most was not having any room around the trailer to simply lift the long parts off and set them alongside it.

I ended up lifting and hovering each of the two long runways while I pulled the trailer out of the shop. In the picture, a 2” strap is doing all the lifting and the yellow and red straps are there as safeties in case the main strap slid.

With the trailer out of the way, down to the floor it went. And then the trailer was backed into the shop again over the top of it.

Luckily this trailer had enough clearance to back over the runways. If not, my backup plan was to run the trailer tires up on some 2x8’s to boost it up.

And there are the major parts under the crane awaiting assembly. There are numerous other small parts not shown in the picture and I will show you them shortly.

As they say – “All’s well that ends well”. The early arrival somewhat threw me into a tail spin, but I’m glad the project just leaped ahead of schedule by two or three weeks! The story continues…

ODIS · Mar 3, 2014

You are going to love that lift!

Get some hockey pucks to protect your rides. So where does one find "Hockey Pucks" in Florida?

All the best,

Ody.

Wingnut65 · Mar 4, 2014

shopnut said:
JCQuick - Yep, you know me - the camera will be snapping the whole time. I have a wrist watch camera now, so it shouldn't slow me down much !

You got a Bat Camera? I had a couple box tops to go before I could get one!

shopnut · Mar 4, 2014

Ody - I hope so. I desperately need the extra space right now, but really look forward to the many things I will be able to do with it later. Hockey pucks in Florida? - Ebay or Amazon, of course! At least, that's where the last ones I bought came from (bought them to create some custom-sized hose stops for my water reels).

Wingnut65 - Keep eating that cereal! I got a Galaxy Gear as an early Xmas present to pair up with my Sammy Note 3. Coolest thing ever (well, that I own anyway). I had no idea it would do all this stuff – pictures and videos automatically upload to the smartphone, emails, calls, voice recognition, media controller, the list goes on and on. I need to do a little write-up on how I’m using it in the shop - I have the screen of my smartphone “mirroring” up onto big flatscreen via Wi-Fi so I can see it anywhere in the shop.

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BTW, thanks again for the offer to help with the lift. Too bad our schedules didn’t align this time, but you will have to bring the family over sometime to see the place (AFTER I kill a few more spiders, of course

– I know one of the Hideout crew doesn’t care for them). You might even be able to see a car go up and down after next week if all goes well!

akdiesel · Mar 4, 2014

shotnut
I included the link to my lift construction. Junkman helped out a lot on this project.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23000
I don't remember if the cross-tube was tight or not.
It was also recommended to remove the pins and the cable pulley's. They need to be cleaned and well greased.

shopnut · Mar 4, 2014

Thanks for the link ak. It's kind of interesting how the air source ended up being the majority of the thread discussion by some. I didn't even give that a second thought even before I decided to build the air bottle.

The thought of installing the cross-tube as you did with columns laying down crossed my mind as it seems like a safer way to do it. But in my case, the runways are now blocking most of the crane sweep so I will need to do it with them stood up as shown in the manual. I think it will be okay though.

Funny you mention the pulley's. I saw the grease fitting in the shafts so I grabbed a grease gun and pumped them full (I like to lube stuff when the joints are unloaded to really work it in there). I kind of went overboard. Next I'm flipping through the manual and read the pulleys need to be removed to install the cables. Figures.

Good tip on the cables being on the correct side of runway bolts. I can't tell you how many times something like that has happened to me. Just got done putting a new belt on the mower once only to total shred it the first time I kicked in the blade because of improper routing. Really ruins your day (and pocketbook sometimes)!

akdiesel · Mar 4, 2014

shopnut

I just realized I misspelled your call sign in the last post. Sorry about that.
Good luck on the installation. They do take up a lot of room and it will make your shop look smaller for some reason but they are more handy then not.

shopnut · Mar 4, 2014

No worries ak. What goes around, comes around. I misspelled rieferman's name over in his thread earlier (sorry buddy!). We're all friends here - who cares!

shopnut · Mar 5, 2014

PAINT TOUCHUP AND GETTING READY FOR LIFT ASSEMBLY…

On delivery day, I barely had enough time to toss the parts off the trailer, much less look them over closely for damage. So on the next free day, I decided to run back out for a closer inspection and to prep things for the assembly process.

BendPak lists the following shipping weights for the parts:

2040 - HD-9XW
68 - JP-6 Jack Plate
55 - JP-3 Jack Plate
140 - Caster Set

A rough estimate of the 2040 pound weight breakdown for the base lift is as follows:

400 - Runway with 4 lock plates lying in it
400 - Runway with hyd cylinder in it
250 - Each cross tube (2X) (maybe 200 each and an extra 50 on each runway)
125 - Each column (4X) (I could lift them easy enough)
100 - Ramps/chocks/column caps
100 - Pump and all misc hardware
40 - Shipping brackets (4X)

After studying the manual to determine which parts go where, I decided to spend a little time moving things around into their rough position. Here are a few shots of the lift from various angles, including accessories.

Here's a close-up of the small bits – 4 lifting cables, air and hydraulic hoses, hardware, anchors bolts, ramp pins, and a few other assorted pieces.

Hydraulic power unit. This is the 110VAC version. Three gallons of Dexron III was also purchased, although I got a tip that it may take up to four to fill it up.

And finally the tire chocks and column top caps.

Here is the type of damage you can expect when things get shipped all the way across the country. There were about twenty spots I needed to hit with some paint before they started to rust. Only one spot could be blamed on the shipping company where something next to the lift on the truck must have been rubbing against it; the rest where due to the thin cardboard used in the internal packaging.

BendPak added 4"x 8' plywood strips along the lower outsides of the runways and this did a fine job of protecting them. They also added some very thick cardstock where the forklift tines would be inserted into the shipping brackets, protecting the tops of the runways.

This is the most jam-packed my shop has ever been (and it’s usually pretty packed). But soon the lift and two cars will only occupy 1 bay instead of the current 3. It’s going to be great!

akdiesel · Mar 5, 2014

shopnut

A place for everything and everything in its place. I don't recall as too how gallons of oil I used.
Are you able to move some things out while building it?

e-tek · Mar 5, 2014

Congrats - you'll love a lift. Welcome to the BP brigade!

Vernmotor · Mar 5, 2014

Shot nut ! LOL that's funny

shopnut · Mar 5, 2014

akdiesel - Yes, I can clear out that entire bay pretty quickly because most everything is on wheels. It can all sit on the covered porch for the day, even if its raining. But that doesn't buy me much extra width up front by the stairway. I'll just have to plan a escape path when I'm flying the heavy items.

e-tek - Thanks. I'm sure there are things I haven't even dreamed of using it for (although, I have a ton of things in mind already). It's good to hear you're still endorsing them in other threads after living with yours for quite some time of hard use. I'm already thinking about how I can squeeze one in my city garage

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Vernmotor - Even funnier might be that I spell it that way 1 out of 10 login's into GJ. I get an error and then go "duh".

shopnut · Mar 6, 2014

akdiesel said:
shopnut

Was the shipping company able to load it from the side?

I saw a picture of the lift on the trailer and it reminded me I forgot to answer this.

Yes, they loaded from the side, with quite a bit of maneuvering to clear the fenders. But when I unpacked everything, it became very evident that BendPak went to great lengths for these long packages to be end loaded. The shipping brackets are designed to hoop down underneath the forks and boards are tucked in above this area where the forks will contact the tire side of the runway. Also note my lift was shipped as two packages with the runways upside down forming the base.

I didn't see any instructions that would clue a forklift driver in to the proper way to handle them, but I think it would help. The forklift operators loading the transport trailers are forced to do it this way because of their length, but others may not know this (like my driver). I think they could have easily end-loaded mine from the rear, right between the big flipdown ramps.

shopnut · Mar 6, 2014

ACCESSORIES FOR THE LIFT…

This cart holds the two jacking trays (JP-3, JP-6), as well as the assembled caster set. I was happy to see the caster set is painted black these days – works with any of their new lift colors I guess. I stopped by the auto parts store to pick up three gallons at Dexron III to fill up the power unit.

I built up the caster trays just like they show on the instruction sheet.

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Unfortunately, it appears my casters are put together incorrectly after seeing other GJ photos. I should have compared the assembled height to the mating holes in the lift columns; that will decide what’s truly right or wrong on the next trip out.

Four drip trays are stacked up in the following picture. These vacuum formed trays seem a bit flimsy, so I'm already thinking about some perimeter reinforcement in the form of aluminum or wood hoops. They were cheap enough and I can easily make them into something acceptable (for me). BendPak sized them so they can be used with the runways in the narrow or wide positions by simply rotating them.

The plastic drum on the oil drain sort of surprised me, but it seems to be well made. With its black funnel and silver pipe, the drum is begging for a yellow paint job to match the décor around Asylum.

I've had great success with magnetic sheet working for other things, so I cut some 10x12" rectangles out to stick on the bottom of the columns to protect both the paint and the epoxy floor. Since I have the caster kit, these really will not need to withstand any major sliding, they will just prevent the paint from getting chipped/rubbed off and eventually rusting. I’m not sure if it will do any good, but I had the majority of a 50' roll begging to be used for something so I will give it a try. I considered VCT tiles, but they are a little thicker and might leave glue residue if I decided to take them off.

One last thing I will need to address before getting started next time is the slack cable safety lock springs. BendPak sent a service bulletin with my lift and it appears my springs were installed in the wrong hole. I confirmed mine are in the wrong place and I’m not real happy about needing to mess with it, but I’m glad to know about it. The slack locks are one of those things you hope never gets used (broken cable), and because it’s not used typically, you tend to forget about. It is nice to know that it will be properly set up from the beginning. Other recent owners may want to check theirs or consult BendPak about the proper location for their springs.

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As far as other accessories go, I also have all the parts to build my air accumulator bottle for the locks and I'm starting to think about a poor man's RJ-45 jack, so more to come on those endeavors. Of course, I need some lighting underneath there too, don't I?

akdiesel · Mar 7, 2014

shopnut

They loaded my lift the length way. I was skeptical watching him but he seemed to know what he was doing.
Well that is a disappointment about the dolley's, drip trays and the springs.
I know the instructions can use some improvement.
As for the drip trays, they sell some aluminum low cut trays. Not sure where to get them, but they appear to be about the same size.
Now for the spring issue. We all know BendPak sells a great product and I would not hesitate to order another if needed, but we are all human and mistakes will happen. With that being said a company should step up to correct any problems with out confrontation.
I hate to say it but I think China will be the top world country in the next 20 years.
Sorry about the rant.
I must have missed the order of the oil drain. Was that from BendPak as well? I need one but it needs a 5 gallon cap.

Wingnut65 · Mar 7, 2014

You said that you had ordered the black model, but I'm glad to see all the yellow that they threw in as well.

Have fun on the build and take it slow. Wish I could make it over to help.

The next posts should be progress, not side trips and other adventures...

shopnut · Mar 7, 2014

akdiesel – Just a minor setback on the springs and casters, and about an hour will correct it. No worries. It’s interesting though how BendPak had time to slip the spring warning instructions in with my manual, but didn’t have time to fix it themselves before it shipped. I work for a company with similar dilemmas (like you said, we all make mistakes), and it seems like a safety issue would have been corrected before it left the factory if they had a chance to do so. Maybe it's not severe enough to worry them.

I think they are a little small for this application, but I bought a bunch of used 24x36 aluminum baking sheets from ebay for $3 each several years ago. Great pans and I use them for all kinds of stuff. The auto parts store has some larger steel drip pans available too as an alternative. I may be jumping the gun on this and find out those plastic pans are just fine as is. More to come.

The oil drain was shipped with the lift. The box was mangled when it arrived and that had me worried when I first walked up. But the item was fine inside. I might think twice about shipping these light weight (somewhat fragile) items together with a 2000 pound lift next time – it’s probably the least of the freight handlers concerns. It’s a Ranger model RD8G with 8 gallon capacity. Thick plastic wall on the tank, good casters, adjustable height tube and one of the tube sections could be removed to make it really short. I probably could have done a little better, pricewise, getting it from HF or similar. But I’m sure I will get many years of use out of it.

Wingnut65 – Yeah, I was hoping those misc parts were going to be yellow for a little contrast so I was relieved when I opened the packages. Pictures I found online show them both ways so it was anyone’s guess until it arrived. I sent a picture back to Mrs. Shopnut as I was unpacking it and the first thing she said was “the extra cost for the black was worth every penny”. I agreed. I have always liked the traditional BendPak shade of blue, but the black/yellow just fits the Asylum so well.

And yes, “Slow and Safe” will be the theme for the lift assembly process. I don’t need another trip to the emergency room! Besides, I want to savor the moment. (Been waiting a long time for this).

Progress reports should be coming early next week for a couple of projects (and some extra dreaming) if all goes well.

JCQuick · Mar 8, 2014

I know you said "Slow and Safe" but its saturday and i suspect someone is in the shop getting ready to install said lift :dunno:

shopnut · Mar 10, 2014

JCQuick said:
I know you said "Slow and Safe" but its saturday and i suspect someone is in the shop getting ready to install said lift

Well, it was definitely safe. But these things go together pretty quickly, so there wasn't anything slow about it. Yep, when you wrote this, I was probably just installing the lift cables. I have about 300 pictures to sift through and boil down to about 30 so I don’t completely bore you guys with the process. There’s one happy nutjob in this Asylum!!!

shopnut · Mar 10, 2014

FINISHING UP THE HOSE REEL FAIRLEAD PLATE…

I had to buy some extra fairleads because my stash of 20 finally ran out. I just kills me to pay full price ($30) for these when I bought the others off of ebay for $3/each some years ago. Oh well, I couldn’t mis-match my fairleads, now could I? What would be neighbors say!

Here it is with the painted 3/4" board in place. This was no place to use something flimsy - the hose/cord stops hit it pretty hard.

The top side doesn't look as pretty

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Here it is with the fairleads in place and some trim around the door chain openings. The spare hole will probably be for a Battery Tender (trickle charger) reel.

Here's a closeup of the chain opening. I used some black plastic trim that had a curled flange built in it to keep the chain from snagging

Ins

And here it is mostly finished. I still need some black trim along the door tracks, but I'm still waiting for some special parts to come in before I can wrap it up completely.

And you probably spied that BendPak post in the last picture. A full report is coming next. These dang write-ups take time, you know

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akdiesel · Mar 11, 2014

shopnut

What BendPak. Say it isn't so. I thought you pulling our leg again like the new shop build.
The center door section looks great and the teaser of the black BendPak fits just right.

Wingnut65 · Mar 11, 2014

Congrats on getting more puzzle pieces and cool toys installed in The Asylum! Its amazing how you have all the hoses and cords hanging down and you still have room for more. Talk about planning ahead!

For the black around the doors, looks like painting the track black may just be enough. If you are not sure, run some electrical tape down the track and see if you like the looks!

And finally...

Good things come to he who waits!

Wish I could have been of some assistance, but it sounds like you were so anxious to get this lift lifted that you just didn't slow down. Looking forward to the documentary. (Glad its not a docu-drama!)

gordyy · Mar 11, 2014

yes congrats on the lift unbelievable how much you use them once they are available

shopnut · Mar 11, 2014

akdiesel - Thanks. I had considered changing that BENDPAK logo decals to yellow letters, but the white kind of goes nicely with all the white vinyl around here (and even those new white fairleads). I think the lift needs just a bit more yellow somewhere though. We’ll see. And I’m cooking up a silver tileboard enclosure for the lift power unit. When I’m done, there will be no mistaking what shop this lift belongs in!

Wingnut65 - Thanks. Yes, I’m starting to make out the image on this 1000 piece puzzle - and I like it!!!

I try to leave some room for expansion where possible, but it doesn’t always work out that nicely and then it requires a saw for the mods

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The Asylum waits for no man, including me sometimes! I’m just surprised the Corvette and Chevelle didn’t team up and assembly the lift while I was gone - they will benefit the most from having it here! I’m also glad there was no drama involved - just a couple stripped bolts is all (BTW, I need to get a warning out to new owners of HD-9’s about that potential safety issue. If I got M12 Class 4.8 screws with mine by mistake, others could have too.).

I still have a small stash of black plastic corner trim leftover that I’ll be using to cover up those door tracks. Some of it has a full 180 degree lip that hides the edge of that track channel perfectly. I hope I don’t run out of it before all 4 doors are done because I have no idea where to find more of it (bought it on clearance at Lowe’s years ago)

gordyy - Thanks. Yeah, I can see the lift becoming a shop necessity in no time

. Now I suppose you GJ guys will really be giving me a hard time if I don’t start working on the project cars with a nice shiny lift at my disposal (well, I know one guy that will for sure, with initials V-M). Thanks for stopping in.

Wingnut65 · Mar 11, 2014

shopnut said:
...Now I suppose you GJ guys will really be giving me a hard time if I don’t start working on the project cars with a nice shiny lift at my disposal...

Who, US???? :shocking:

At least you are not making things out of brass, like someone else who isn't...

shopnut · Mar 11, 2014

Wingnut65 said:
Who, US????

At least you are not making things out of brass, like someone else who isn't...

I know I don't have to worry about you Wingnut - there's a Bus I can always throw back in your face

Hey, I think its been at least a couple weeks since anyone has razzed TB about that brass project. He's overdue!

shopnut · Mar 11, 2014

BENDPAK HD-9XW LIFT ASSEMBLY (Part 1 of 8)…

I’ll start with a couple of preliminary notes to set the record straight on some items discussed earlier. Also, I have already discussed the purchase and delivery so scroll back a little if you are interested in that.

Switching the slack cable lock springs to the proper hole was about a ten minute job. Makes me wonder why BendPak didn’t just do it at the factory. Perhaps the lift was already wrapped up before they discovered the problem :dunno:

Here’s what each of the four springs should look like with them hooked in the lower hole. It was a good time to apply a dab of grease to the slack cable sheave axles shown in this picture since they don't have any bearings (and don't really need them because they are lightly loaded).

I was happy to find out I assembled the casters in the proper way. I guess I need to trust the directions and not old pictures I find on the internet. They actually turned out to be very stable built this way and the columns get lifted off the floor about a 1/2". (Note the plate that the caster is mounted to is to the top side)

Speaking of directions, I filled the power unit with 3 gallons of ATF as instructed and I was able to raise the lift to the full height without pump cavitation. According to my calcs, the hydraulic cylinder holds approximately 2.25 gallons at full retraction (cylinder retracts to lift the runways) and the rest is in the line and reservoir. The directions say add the 3 gallons and if it lifts all the way, you are done. There is a little dipstick on the reservoir plug, but I didn't read anything about filling up to it. Mine raised up fine to the point of the pump dead-heading and blowing over relief so I left it at that.

For anyone interested, here’s the shipping bracket (4 were used). I shot them with a coat of paint so they won’t rust so badly before I re-purpose them.

Okay, now on to the assembly.

JCQuick · Mar 11, 2014

My popcorn got cold waiting on the install :lol_hitti

shopnut · Mar 12, 2014

Hey, I'm an engineer - my writing and typing skills leave a bit to be desired!

(Sorry about the popcorn though - I hate to see anyone's get cold on account of my sluggishless

)

shopnut · Mar 12, 2014

BENDPAK HD-9XW LIFT ASSEMBLY (Part 2 of 8)…

COLUMNS AND CROSS TUBES

Assembly of the big parts turned out to be really straight forward and actually pretty fun using the overhead crane. I'm building it in the center bay under the sweep of the crane and then it will be rolled over to the spot adjacent to the apartment as a semi-permanent home.

I didn't bother to lay chalk lines out on the floor to mark where the columns go, I just lined them up roughly with the ends of the runways that were laying right there and spaced them width-wise for the cross tubes to drop in. NOTE: If marking your floorplan, use the updated one that was included as a separate sheet and not the one on page 9 of the manual. The XW model had changed dimensions from that listed (I guess that’s why they put the little footnote “Specs subject to change” down there

) It appears they changed the width of model XW by a 6.75" reduction on "Rev M".

The first thing to do is stand up the columns and load the cross tubes. I used some ladders to keep them from tipping outward during this process as the base pads are flush to the column on the outside edge.

The crane was at its maximum reach to load the cross tubes. I stood on one end and inserted the opposite end in first while tilting it slightly and then dropped it a bit and inserted the near one.

They drop in pretty easy with about a 1/4" of clearance in each direction.

Here is the ladder lock plate by itself.

And this is what it looks like installed in the column.

Next, the cross tubes are lifted and locked at 66". I didn't do this until I was ready for the runway installation to minimize the chance of knocking them over, even though it would take quite a bump to do so.

Before putting the runways on, they instructed to remove the cable sheaves.

shopnut · Mar 12, 2014

BENDPAK HD-9XW LIFT ASSEMBLY (Part 3 of 8)…

RUNWAYS

On to the runways. I wasn’t taking any chances of knocking the column assemblies over so I strapped the manlift to one and my engine hoist to the other.

Here is the power side runway going on. I rotated it to sneak up between the properly spaced cross tubes and dropped it on them.

Repeat for the other side.

This is where I ran into a little snag. The bolts included in the kit for connecting the runways to the cross tubes were M12 Class 4.8 instead of Class 8.8 (similar to a Grade 2 versus Grade 5 in SAE) and couldn't stand the strain of the torque value stated in the manual. It wasn't feeling right and the 5th one stripped when I was approaching the correct torque. Houston we have a problem! BendPak is sending me the correct screws. NOTE: I suggest new owners go and check those screws ASAP - if there is a 4.8 number on the head, give BendPak a call immediately.

Next, the hydraulic cylinder was extended to install the lift cables (or “wire rope” as we called them when I was designing large cranes – my coworkers always said “cables” are something to conduct electricity

)

I used a tire valve (eventually destined for my lock cylinder air accumulator) screwed into the port. NOTE: The cylinder rod lunges out somewhat violently so be careful and keep everyone clear while doing it.

Okay, ready for the cables.

Wingnut65 · Mar 12, 2014

Your photos are Awesome! I can just imagine your progress and always thinking what the next shot will be.

And the lift looks great as well!

shopnut · Mar 12, 2014

Thanks Wingnut. At the point that particular photo was taken, I was pretty relieved to have the big pieces up and nothing had fallen down and smashed something.

The photo ops were a good time to scan the area and try to imagine what could go wrong and take measures to guard against it.

Wingnut65 · Mar 12, 2014

Yellow letters would really be cool!

Never mind. Forget I brought it up...

tinbender 66 · Mar 13, 2014

Stunning!! Not to beat a dead horse (mine) but your attention to detail just blows me away!! That shot of the front doors with the control panel, fairleads, etc............Wow!

On a completely different note, how did we get from copper to brass?? Geez. Must be Wingnut's fault.

rixtrix1 · Mar 13, 2014

Looks good!

colin39 · Mar 13, 2014

I love reading this thread.

shopnut · Mar 13, 2014

Wingnut65 - You must have read my response to akdiesel in Reply #2587. Whether or not you did, I will still take it as a vote for yellow letters. Since typing that, I have a little something from BendPak on the way that might still make those yellow letters possible. But it is waaaaay down on the priority list - I have a long list of personalization to do to this lift before I can even think about lettering.

tinbender_66 - Thanks. I'm STILL waiting on some parts to finish up that silly little wall you mention. I placed an order for some special parts from one company and finally cancelled it after 5 weeks of no-show. Now it's been two weeks on order with the second company and it's still not here. Don't they know I trying to hold a schedule here?!?

(not really)

Yeah, that's it - Wingnut started it! I was just following along.

I had him pegged as a troublemaker from the very beginning! I mean, just look at his latest "stir the pot" comment about those yellow letters…

rixtrix1 - Thanks. I had a great time building it.

colin39 - Thanks and glad to hear you like following along. I guess I have to say I love writing about it. It really gives to a chance to reflect on what was done. And a big WELCOME to a new March 2014 member!

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