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My Vintage Bar Build

rexpittman

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I Thought I would start a thread for the bar build in my barn. Hoping that maybe I can get a few more ideas from you more experience guys. This is my first build so I been going slow and winging it so far. I have also ran into a few snags along the way and unbeknown to you guys, you have helped me through most of it already with a little bit of reading!! I still have more than a few problem spots in my shop that I am hoping through this thread we can work through them. I hate to do rework as it is very costly in time and money, but will try to do what is needed to make it right before it is all finished.

I would like to say thanks to everybody here in the GJ group for being here and posting your builds so that I can see what I needed to do in mine! and maybe with this thread I can pay it forward to another newbie! If a person wants to learn how to put up a barn or upgrade a place, this has proven to me, you can learn almost anything you need here just by readying. I am in the right place for sure!!

I won't go through all of the build of the barn (metal building), but it is a Mueller Building for those that have not seen the other threads of my barn.
40x50x12 (2,000sqft)
Qty 2 12'x12' roll up doors
Qty 1 Man door
Qty 6 3'x6' Windows
And if you wish, I can post pics of the build as it was going on. I more wanted to make this a build thread for the bar area and the issues I ran into while building it and how I fixed some things and still struggle a bit with others.

This bar started with me buying a antique 1939 model Brunswick (site unseen) from a dear friend of the family for my mother. I was told the bar was two pieces The bar back is 12' long x 7.5' high depth unknown. The front bar is 12' long and was told regular bar height and again unknown of the depth.

I am not finished with the bar build yet, but I feel like I am getting close, very close!! Here is a few pics of the build as I was going, some questions and trouble I ran into along the way! Once I get done with the bar build, I will be going to get the "actual bar" and do a restore on it. The only thing I was told about the bar is it needs a LOT of work.

I had no clue how to frame up walls other than I needed the studs 16" on center. This proved to be only half of the info later and found that out after I starting putting up my drywall LOL

I split the barn in 1/2 and put 40x25 for the bar (1,000sqft)

Got a new toy to play with!! I framing nailer!
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1st interior wall kind of up. Found out I needed a new tool again, got me a Simpson cement nail gun
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As this build went on, I ended up with a boat load of new tools, I just used the money I would have paid a contractor for the build and started putting it to all the coolest tools!!

2nd wall kindof up. I was still doing some reading on how to use a cement nailer without something blowing up in my face. You can call me a sissy, but working alone, makes you think about safety and how long will you lay there before you are found LOL
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Had to stop there for a bit as I was working off 2 extension from the meter pole. I needed power in the shop!!
Hung a fresh meter and 200 Amp disconnect on the old meter pole I already had. I already had a ole C-99 trencher. It did need some rework to get all the spider webs off it, but after that, she worked like a champ. The ditch is 12"+/- wide and 24"+/- deep. While the ditch was open I ran a network, TV Satellite and PVC for airline in the same ditch. I figure while its open, try and stuff it full!!
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here is a shot from the driveway of the house to the meter pole where I buried the other stuff going to the barn (network, tv and airline from the barn to the house)
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With power in the barn, I was able to finish the framing of the walls and build a bathroom area (nick named the water closet) and run some power to plugs. To have lights in the barn after working with NO lights was like... Night and day difference LOL. I was able to hook up a charging station, radio and lights. it was a big day for me LOL
even hung a ole vintage BAR light sign to check it out.
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The framing over the 12'x12' over head door. This was one of my last walls to frame up for the bar, but the first areas of trouble that I could see. as my boards dried, they warped badly :mad: and what to do around the overhead door hardware was yet another area I have yet to fix..
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It was off to work for me, back offshore to make some more money..and get some much needed rest LMAO! :evil:

After a few weeks off shore to rest up and refill of the cash can, I bought me some insulation (40 rolls) some vapor barrier and a new tool for me :) just a little reward for my hard work, gotta feed the horse right?:bounce:
The partition wall splitting the shop from the bar was not really needing insulation as I plan on spraying that side with insulation, but I figure while I am here, may as well right?
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Another shot going around the room with insulation. Again, with the boards warping, I was having trouble with getting the insulation to fit snug in the slots between the studs. It took a lot of extra work to make sure I had no gaps and the insulation would actually do its work..:mad:
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I didn't get a pic of the last wall with the insulation but I started vapor barrier. Again with this build I get a whole new appreciation for all you guys that work alone in the shop. it does prove to move much slower and I spend a fair bit of time scratching my head trying to find a way to work it LOL

OH!!! Before I forget!! MY self gift!! I treated me to a table saw. its not a cabinet table but it works very well for me and I hope to get plenty of years out of it!! Ridgid R5412. I seen some mixed reviews, but needed a table saw and crossed my fingers that some of the trouble I had read about would not find their way to my table. So far, I have been extremely pleased with the table. no issues at all!! :bounce:
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The vapor barrier going up :D
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Another shot of the vapor barrier
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I realized once I started hanging vapor barrier on the 1st wall with windows, I had forgot to finish framing out the windows and had to insulate them too. Learning as I go!!! :)
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Time to go back to work, rest, dry out a bit (to much beer) and make some cashola!!

When I got back from resting.. I mean work, I had decided that I would need some water lines on the outside of the shop. I had built this barn, but never ran water... So I ran water spigots to all 4 corners of the barn with the C-99 trencher and some PVC.
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After a days work running water lines and drinking beer in the bar, I hooked up the trailer to go get some drywall (30 sheets of 4x8). Again, I have never done drywall and found out it just looks easy on youtube being done by the pros. I did get it, but proved I needed practice and some tools :)

1st wall and the water closet with drywall. This was the 1st wall where I found out I spaced my 2x4s wrong and ended up custom fitting each sheet of drywall. I would love to tell you what I did wrong so others don't do it, but I am still lost in that part. I can only say, I think I framed the corners wrong, so the starting spot was off and just continued down the wall. I was not happy that I did it wrong, but it did work. :D
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Started the partition wall and finished the water closet. You can see in these pics also, that I left the bottom 3' of wall with no drywall and in fact added black vapor barrier. I decided the morning I started drywall, I wanted to do some kind of wainscoting on the lower 3' to break up the taller walls for a bar.
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I found out on the partition wall that 4x8x1/2" sheets of drywall gets heavy after moving them all day and left the top for a fresher day.
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I ran out of room in this post LOL. I will start another one. I really need to learn how to talk less.. Who can write more than 10,000 characters in a single post!! :scared: :bounce::eyecrazy:
 
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I wanted to try the wainscoting to get an idea if it would work for me. This is why I put black plastic up, so if the unevenness or untrue cuts in the boards, you would only slightly see black/shadow instead of the white vapor barrier.
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Another shot of the wainscoting down the length of the partition wall.
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I think I like it well enough for a bar. Again, it is only a trial run and may take the whole thing down after I get a few reviews from friends and family. I left it up while I did my mud and tape so my friends could come by and give me their views also :rocker:

I ran out of drywall, but had some mud, so i grabbed some stilts and started to play in the mud.:bounce:
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I finished up as much mud and taping I could in the lower pics
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That's about all my progress for now. Its time to go back to work and get some rest and money and dry out again. Hope you enjoyed this and I would really like any ideas going forward. Thanks again guys for your time and your advice!!
 

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Definitely subscribing to your thread- it looks excellent so far! My grandfather was in the liquor industry way back when and I have always wanted to put a bar in someday if nothing else to display all of the old decanters, signs, etc. the family has. I can already tell your build will give me all sorts of ideas!



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Very nice! I don't care what anybody says that wainscoting stays, it looks great just the color it is. Maybe just wax it or a satin poly on it and call it done.
 
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Nice! Keep the updates coming!

Thanks!!, I am offshore working right now. I work 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. I love the time home, but I even love the rest time of being offshore, not to mention it helps to keep the funds coming in for the project :beer: I should be home in a couple weeks to get back on it. I spend most of my days out here reading this forum and getting ideas LOL. This is NOT a inexpensive place to hang out!! (just bought the Cut50F plasma group Buy)

Cool space. Pics of the build itself would be good. :)

Here is a few more pics of the Barn build itself for your viewing pleasure LOL. My disclaimer... I am no pro and this was my 1st metal building. :dunno:
The slab formed up and ready for the pour day
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That was as far as I was prepared to go alone on the slab. I called a buddy (pro) to do the actual pour day.
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Another shot of the slab, showing the drain for the water closet
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Day of delivery!! I was SOOOOOOOOOOOOO pumped!! and skeered!! I think I spent 2 days just reading plans :dunno:
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All the red iron up, less the center beam (it was to big for my tractor to handle) and the rafter perlins.
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Had to rent a fork lift to get the center beam and did the perlins while I had it on hand. It is always fun to rent equipment! :drool:
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Had to wait on a 4x4 scissor lift for the panels, and good ole mom said, dont waste days waiting, go ahead and put her in a car port LOL.
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another shot of the car port and the welding trailer I picked up for cheap $1,500.00 loaded and ready to work :evil:
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All the tin up. I think the whole project took me 2 days and a morning. I cant remember what I have in the carport, but if it was 2K (less the trailer) it would surprise me. I put 1,500.00 in the metal I needed and had most of the rest on hand, buried in the back of the ranch.
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After moms side job, it was back to work on the bar(n). Seems how all I read about in GJ is how everybody gets side tracked LOL. anyway, back to work

Started on the roof with some help from some beer drinking friends, seems they drank more beer than did work LOL no surprise there hahaha
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First side of the roof done.
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All we lack now is to finish up!! (this is a standard answer i say when people ask me how much longer till we are done :) ) Notice I am working alone AGAIN!! not sure where the guys that wanted a bar went to LOL
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All the tin up and ready for trim :beer:
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All the trim is up and was not near as hard as people said it would be.
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All the windows in and job done. After doing the job, putting up a metal building is not a very hard project at all. I would recommend anybody to do their own work for a metal building. At least give it a shot anyway. Not to waste ANY time, you can see on the trailer if you look close. That the lumber to frame up the inside is already on hand and ready to get started!! Got to get started if we are going to get done!! :beer:
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Definitely subscribing to your thread- it looks excellent so far! My grandfather was in the liquor industry way back when and I have always wanted to put a bar in someday if nothing else to display all of the old decanters, signs, etc. the family has. I can already tell your build will give me all sorts of ideas!

Thanks for subscribing!! feels good to know that I have people watching. That is why I started this thread anyway! If you love the old stuff, then I hope you will love this build as most everything that I have for this bar is going to be old school or at least look old school. MY parents also collected a huge amounts of old decanters, signs glassware and misc items. In this pic, if you look in the back left corner you can see just sneak peak of all the gear for the walls and to put in the bar area itself. I will get some more pics of the stuff when I get done with the finish product of the bar itself. I am sure it will need to be cleaned and some maintenance done on the neon signs and such.
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Neal.

Great work so far. Subscribed!:thumbup:

Thanks for the complements, glad to see you here!! I will do my very best to keep the updates coming in and with some good info!! All I ask is, if you guys seeing me fixing to do something wrong, please give me a heads up as this is my first real build :beer: Thanks for coming!!

Very cool. Will be watching this one.

Hang around!! The fun is just beginning!! Not only do we have the antique bar, I will be doing a antique pool table and shuffle board if I can find it :lol_hitti and who can have a bar with out a good OLD dart board :dunno: I have some old stuff, some cool stuff and a few tricky items. I am ready to have some fun in here!! :beer:


Thanks for checking in!! stay tuned!!

The sanding will be easy...lol. great build so far
I bought a sander for the walls and found that mud sands fairly easy with just the sanding blocks. No worries, got a free tool out of the deal SCORE!!

Very nice! I don't care what anybody says that wainscoting stays, it looks great just the color it is. Maybe just wax it or a satin poly on it and call it done.

Thanks for saying so. Love to hear what people think and I am really happy that I have not gotten any negative responses yet!! I think you are right, it stays!! I just have 3 more walls to do hahaha

Is this just for fun or are you opening a business?
I could never take on the responsibility of the level of a bar for DWIs and that legal stuff. I know that I take on a certain amount even with a personal bar, but I can house the people that are to drunk to leave and offer them beds. That being said, most of my friends drink on a responsible level ( beng drinking is behind most of us). This is for sure just for family, friends and myself OH.. and all the fellow GJers in the neighborhood :beer:. Most of the men I hang with smoke cigars and drink whiskey or scotch. The women in our lives would NOT let this activity in our homes. Seemed like the right move after years of procrastination!! Not to mention it will fit perfect on a good poker night!!

Great looking project so far. I really like the wainscot.

Thanks for the complements!! I hope the rest of the build gets really good responses as well!! :beer::thumbup:
 
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What kind of wainscoting is that? I really like the look.

Thanks for saying!! Glad you like it!! I was unsure what to do to break the tall walls up. Like I said, I made the choice that morning of the build to do something and just left it open for a bit till this idea came to me (read it online somewhere, not sure where). Well it is not anything very expensive at all, which is right up my alley, as a matter of fact, I got most of the material from a friend of mine to get out of his way LOL. It is cedar fence pickets lol. They came 5.5"x8' long with that (I'm not sure what you call it) dove tail cut on the tops. I just cut that off and applied that vinegar/steel wool treatment to it. All I did after that was start hanging it up. This is a VERY easy thing to do, while drinking beer :beer: Really I think that's why I tried it LOL it looked easy and I had a beer, said to my self "if this works and looks ok, I am going to roll with it!!"

One thing to keep in mind is that cedar fence does not really have a smooth finished side on it and stacked up can leave a slight gap between them. This is why I put the black plastic behind it (It was that or rip the edge on each one of them).So it would look more like shadow instead of white like the vapor barrier i had up already

The wall before I started hanging drywall (clear vapor barrier all the way to the floor)
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After I went around the room installing black plastic
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Looking close, you can see the gaps in the wood. This wall I did not push the joints tight and it makes them MORE visible. The following walls will get a tighter fit, but still glad I put the black plastic on before i installed the cedar pickets
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That's what I thought. There is another build that the guy did all of his shop with used cedar fence. I have looked and that type of material is getting hard to find at a reasonable price.
 
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That's what I thought. There is another build that the guy did all of his shop with used cedar fence. I have looked and that type of material is getting hard to find at a reasonable price.

You dont by chance have the build thread do you? I would love to go read it!! Learning what others do is what makes it possible for all of us to continue to improve right? Thanks for coming by again! :thumbup:
 

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Looks Great!! Any details on the floor stain, supplier (color etc)?
 

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You dont by chance have the build thread do you? I would love to go read it!! Learning what others do is what makes it possible for all of us to continue to improve right? Thanks for coming by again! [emoji106]
That is tin bender's place
Search pedestrian garage in the garage gallery.

Your barn is looking awesome!
 
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Looks Great!! Any details on the floor stain, supplier (color etc)?

I am sorry, I really thought I had put that info in this thread already, my bad!!

First, my floor is super dirty as I am doing dry wall and mud work right now, but, this was a very cheap way to get the look out of the slab that I wanted. I am all about getting what I want and NOT spending cashola, hence why I do most all my own work. One of the main reasons I love this forum, is that there is a lot of like minded people here in that respect.

The concrete stain is not really a stain at all. It is fertilizer. It is called Cooperas.
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It goes on with a mop and leave it puddled in places and then just let it sit for 24hrs. After you pressure wash it and seal it with a simple concrete sealer from HD, this is the look it has.
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With the fertilizer and mops, I got just a bit over $10.00 in the project and it covered 2,000sqft. Keep in mind, I did the floors before I ever put up the shop walls and the reason is, the only thing that I have seen people having trouble with using this is not cleaning the floor after. This method will leave a white chalk on the slab from the chemical reaction after setting for 24hrs and I had to pressure wash it to get it off and then I sprayed it with vinegar and a pump up sprayer after that to neutralize the chemical reaction. After I was sure, then I sprayed the cement sealant on it for the finished look.

Hope this helps! :thumbup:
 

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Damn, hopefully one day I'll be able to put up a building that nice. I'm getting pretty tired of working on dirt and gravel. It's not as fun as it used to be.
 
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Damn, hopefully one day I'll be able to put up a building that nice. I'm getting pretty tired of working on dirt and gravel. It's not as fun as it used to be.


HAHAHA I know the feeling. been working in the dirt for years. I am really pumped to get started on my shop side, but before I start on that side, I need a place to drink and think hahaha. welcome aboard the thread!! :bounce:
 
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Did some online shopping for a few items for decorations for the bar. Nothing to big. Everything should be piled in front of my door when I get home in a couple weeks LMAO :thumbup:

It will be like a mini Christmas at my house hahaha :bounce:

11 Tins for the walls
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Since I am sure I will not be getting tips in my tip jar, mans gotta make money LOL
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Every place needs a little Wayne. I wanted the one that says "Life is tough, Its tougher if your stupid" but I got this one.
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A little preventive maintenance fort the water closet LOL
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More random tins
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Obviously we can not feed the deer :bounce:
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Gotta say prayer every day LOL
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I named my mechanic shop Busted Knuckle when I 1st started this barn, as I am sure most have LOL. I even renamed my wifi router to "The Busted Knuckle"
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Always have to offer coffee to the DD if there is one :thumbup: and I have a new Keurig machine for the bar too
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I cant have a bar with out a few crosses in it for sure!
Texas 1st
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Another Lone Star
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One for Luck
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And my girl likes the Turquoise Cross
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And because I like the old school, I threw in some Monroe, Elvis, Dean and Bogart.

2 Neons. Both signs 35" W x 23" H x 1" D.
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and the 2nd, same size
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They had some more of the neons, but I wanted to see what all I have at home before I go to crazy. I know I have a lot of wall art already, but in a old bar, who can have "To Much" wall art LOL
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