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Hello boys and girls! (Are there any women on his forum?)

Been lurking for a while and checking out a few of the threads and all the great ideas people have come up with, but the time has finally come to put up or shut up. The slightly enlarged 2 car garage had gotten to the point of a.) only a small path through all the disorganized stuff and b.) the main workbench was piled high with layers and drifts of tools from the last 10 projects. I could not find anything, so the personal and honey do projects ground to a complete stop. Time to do something!

Started about a month and a half ago with building a storage rack out of the recovered remains of the 800 square foot redwood deck that we recently replaced. LOTS of painted-one-side redwood 2x6. Some of it is really beautiful wood under the paint and 40 years aging, but almost all of it has double nail holes every two feet, so there was no way to salvage any nice long lumber out of it.

Will start with a tour of the garage as it stood about a week ago. As with the famous 12-Gauge garage, there are a lot of job specific workstations as well as general use areas.

Let's start with the stairway leading into the house. Nothing terribly interesting here. Threw up some shelves and a coat/apron/filter mask rack soon after we moved in. Chopped the corners of of some of the shelves and used shorter brackets to provide a bit more clearance.



Station 1: Staging
This bench is the staging area for ongoing projects, hobby trips (WWII reenacting) and camping trips. Its currently buried under stuff moved from other parts of the garage during the current reorganization.



Station 2: Resin casting
Laminate counter top on bench, with vacuum machine to the left. Recent add-ons are the shelves. After seeing some of the ceiling ladder storage ideas here I think the 6 and 8 foot stepladders will be going up on the ceiling to free up a bunch of wall space. Recently moved the extension ladder under the deck to make room for the 6 footer.



Station 3: New storage rack
Five feet long and 30" wide with four shelves all constructed of 2x6 decking. I do love my nail gun! Put up a bunch of Harbor Freight magnetic tools holders to hold a bunch of tools, but this may get revised in light of the tool crib builds. The rack is mostly stuffed with reenacting gear like ammo cans, but some household and auto stuff has snuck in there as well. Will be resorting it as I get further along in the project.





Station 4: Sink and counter
Behind the rack is the sink with counter (laminated top on old base cabinet from the family room) and a liquids storage cabinet also from the family room. Shelves above the sink are new (more 2x6s). Above the sink is one of three new long material racks.





Stations 5 and 6: Grinding, chop saw and parts washer
The rest of the back wall has two workbenches with bench grinder, 4" grinder, chop saw, vises, parts washer and compressor on the floor. Parts washer will be going somewhere else.







Station 7: The tool crib
This started out as a new built standing height workbench built with 2x6s and a solid core door covered with vinyl flooring (still need to do some trimming!). The stoke of brilliance came when I decided to build a second workbench and stack it on top of the first one and then add shelves and additional horizontal boards to hang tools from. Shelves between the right legs hold drills, sanders and jig saws. On the left, hooks hold the big grinder, sawsall and the nail gun. Back wall holds hammers and air tools, although the air tools will be getting their own dedicated holder. Wire brushes, hand brooms, dust pan, level and flagging tape roll adorn the front of the legs. Lightweight storage goes on top of the top door. I was quite happy when all the tools got hung up. BTW, the piles of **** on the workbench are all of the random fastener containers piled in one place for sorting. In to what I am not exactly sure, although I have bought some parts containers from Harbor Freight.







Station 8 Future tool crib 2 and press
This steel drafting table (less the drafting surface top) will be the base for tool crib #2. the 20 ton press will swap places with the tool chest to make the tool chest more accessible. There are two table saws behind the press that will be dealt with when the main project is done.



Continued next post...
 
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Back to the other side of the garage we have:

Stations 9 and 10: Bandsaw and lathe
Made the tool crib a bit shorter than the bench its standing on so there would room to cut longer stock on the bandsaw. Shelves will be added to the back of the tool crib to hold lathe tooling. Hmmm, maybe cabinets would be a good idea here.. Plans are to move the sanding machines out to a yet-to-be-rebuilt shed to cut down on the dust in the garage. Have a big 220 dust collector, but there is not room in the garage for it. May run a branch from the shed to the garage?



Stations 11, 12 and 13: Belt Sander, tool chest and storage
1" belt sander tool chest and a couple of old chests of drawers complete this row.



Stations 14 and 15: Polishing machine and jewelry workbench.

I used to make custom gold and titanium jewelry for for a living and this was the basic work area. The jeweler's bench is a school teachers desk that I had when I was kid. Raised it up an a platform to get it to the correct height, cut out the front and set it up to take ring mandrels and saw blocks. Also lowered the center drawer to catch filings and bolted a Panavise to the drawer for setting stones. Finally got the stereo up and running recently.



Station 16: Drill press
Yup, its a drill press. Drawer unit and shelves that hold all the tooling are barely visible to the left of the press.



Station 17: Gas Welding
The base of this monstrosity is my jewelry centrifugal casting machine mounted on two cast iron leg units from somewhere. Casting machine is covered with a sheet of plywood and then a couple of pieces of millboard. The red machine is a jewelry steam cleaner which seems to be dead, so will hopefully be a repair project. Overhead cabinets were also donated from the family room. They have been sitting pretty much empty since I put them up...




Station 18: Garden and other long tools
Crappy, marginally functional tool holders will be replaced with these tool holders which should hold at least three tools per fixture: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-Flip-Up-Heavy-Duty-Tool-Holder-01192/202305471



So there you have it, the big tour, showing the old and some of the new stuff that has been done. Hope you had fun! Comments and suggestions cheerfully accepted! The project will continue next post.
 
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Was busy last weekend picking up some Craig's list finds: $23 6' tall steel cabinet, freebie Ikea kitchen base cabinets, sink and butcher block counter tops and some $5 doors.

Loot!


Loot unloaded




Cabinets were chopped/modified yesterday to fit under the tool crib workbenches and the second overhead table got built today. Then I cut one of the butcher block tops to fit tool crib 2 so now have a nice maple work surface. Still need to add side shelves to crib 2. Today's purchases on the new work top...



The sink will be used as a drop in piece to make a shallow sink in the laundry sink when I don't need the full depth of the laundry sink (most of the time). Its easily removable and will store to the side of the sink base. Still need to trim the attachment rails off so that it fits solidly.



Also got the very rusty bottom of the tall steel cabinet wire brushed, rust converted, primed and into place. Tool chest and press locations also got switched.



One last thought: Harbor Freight moving dollies work really well for moving heavy stuff around when moving stuff out of the way so that work can be done, like this belt sander that does not really have a home yet:

 

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Hello and welcome aboard timdb. You have a big task ahead of you but you are on the right track, just chunk it down to an area at a time.:thumbup:

Interested to follow your progress, keep up the great work.
 

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Looks like my parents basement, before we organized it! Fortunately I was able to help them organize it after they retired. They worried more about family and both worked full time, so it was never a priority. After we got it organized, they were able to use and enjoy stuff they forgot they even had.
Keep up the good work!
 
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Thanks for the welcome guys!

...and yes it is a lot of stuff.

Been loading tool crib/workbench 2 with tools, but its not quite ready for a photo. Did make up and mount a a quicky air tool rack today. Bought a piece of aluminum angle and then noticed a piece of aluminum channel in one of the piles. Was the track for a set of vertical blinds we took out and has a nice tool retaining lip built in. The c section should keep most of the dust off of the tops of the tools.

First pass. Holes are at 3" OC. Marked hole locations, then stuck a piece of plywwod in the slot to support the channel when drilling in the drill press and drilled the holes. Used a grinder open the holes into slots. The initial hole layout did not take into consideration mounting to the 2x6, so I added another set of slots between, and offset from the original slots









Harbor Freight magnetic tool holder hack.
I really love these things (current coupon has them for $3.99), but needed a couple of shorter ones so I cut one roughly in half. There are 8 magnets in each rack. Run your fingernail along the paper covering the magnets to figure out the edges of each magnet. Put it in a vise and cut the bar by cutting one of the two center magnets in half using a grinder (don't cut along the seam between two magnets). Once you have cut it all the way through remove both cut-in-half magnets with a small cold chisel and pick off all the busted magnet debris. This gets you a 10" long piece and 7"long piece. Drill new mounting holes where the half magnets were and mount.

BTW some of the HF magnetic tool holders seem to have magnet sets with alternating polarity in the magnet set making them pretty useless for tool holding because the magnetic field is not uniform along the length of the bar. Took one of these defective pieces back today and figured out that the ones with no printing on the paper over magnets are OK, but the ones with printing are all bad. I tested about 20 of them and the blank ones were all good and the printed ones were all bad. Buyer beware.

 
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um Red Army Soviet stuff?

ok that was lame,

but I couldn't resist

thanks for posting you have a big job ahead of you but now that you've outlined everything you'll have plenty helpers on here to keep you motivated.

keep up the great work

and post progress pics
 
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um Red Army Soviet stuff?

ok that was lame,

but I couldn't resist

Yes it was lame. Modified the post just for you. ;)


thanks for posting you have a big job ahead of you but now that you've outlined everything you'll have plenty helpers on here to keep you motivated.

keep up the great work

and post progress pics

Thanks. Any suggestions on how to do things differently than I am doing are happily accepted.

Tim
 

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Yes it was lame. Modified the post just for you. ;)




Thanks. Any suggestions on how to do things differently than I am doing are happily accepted.

Tim

From station 3
the ammo boxes
And the carry all bags stacked in there as well

But way down on the bottom on the dolly cart with card board box what's is the thing with wood handle on it?

I due like the air tool rack and just start I on one area and get that how you want and work your way around

Also read jacks 12 gauge garage thread pretty sure there some great storage ideas listed there

Keep up with the pics
 
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From station 3
the ammo boxes
And the carry all bags stacked in there as well

We need weapon IDs as well... :) The Soviet ammo cans are very specific to specific weapons.

But way down on the bottom on the dolly cart with card board box what's is the thing with wood handle on it?

Its a belt loader for German MG42/ Yugo M53/ German MG3. Rounds go into a hopper and turning the crank loads the rounds into a 50 round belt.

Also read jacks 12 gauge garage thread pretty sure there some great storage ideas listed there

Have read it and quite enjoyed his very smart solutions, but he has far fewer task specific workstations and much less to store...

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Lots of fun today... Got most of the fasteners from 3 generations sorted and into a couple of the the HF yellow containers in the pic. Very, very glad to have that project out of the way!

Tool crib/workbench 2 is now loaded with tools and open for business. Got all of the clamps mounted as well (no pic though). Still need to work out electric outlet locations and task lighting as the bench is just a little too far away from the overhead lights. Also still looking for a good, accessible way to store the battery powered drills in one of the tool cribs. Maybe some sort of holster... Note that the tape measure basket on the left about halfway up is already overflowing. Will need to get second basket. Quite a few HF magnetic tool holders that have been cut into two pieces in the pic as well. Bought 7 yesterday @ $4 and will get more tomorrow. Had a brainstorm for tool rack for my modeling bench upstairs using two of them...

Having all of the tools out and immediately available is in direct contrast to Stevo's and Jack Olsen's "everything hidden" approach, but it seems to fit my very visual style. Dust will be a problem, but is easily dealt with.

22 oz Lagunitas Equinox: A Genuine Pale Oat Ale with 8% alcohol is lots of fun. Will not be doing anymore garage stuff tonight...:beer:

 

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Im out on the WWII guns type.

I can talk battleships and gun size there and speed and armour and how that all relates.
Tactics and such. But to match ammo cans to guns I'm in the blind but I follow along and I can learn something along the way.


Good luck

Thanks for answering about the belt loader I'm already learning!
 
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Im out on the WWII guns type.

I can talk battleships and gun size there and speed and armour and how that all relates.
Tactics and such. But to match ammo cans to guns I'm in the blind but I follow along and I can learn something along the way.
Good luck

Thanks for answering about the belt loader I'm already learning!

I'm hoping our Finn friend will come back and play the ID game. He's probably up on this stuff.

Speaking of big ships, I recently got to tour the early cruiser Olympia in Philly and quite enjoyed it, especially the cannons in the the Admiral's stateroom. Still striking out on the BBs though. Missouri; closed when we were there. Only got to go on the foredeck of Iowa when it was in Vallejo just prior to moving to Long Beach and New Jersey across the river from Olympia was closed as well when we were there as well. Some day...

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Lots of fun today... Got most of the fasteners from 3 generations sorted and into a couple of the the HF yellow containers in the pic. Very, very glad to have that project out of the way!

Tool crib/workbench 2 is now loaded with tools and open for business. Got all of the clamps mounted as well (no pic though). Still need to work out electric outlet locations and task lighting as the bench is just a little too far away from the overhead lights. Also still looking for a good, accessible way to store the battery powered drills in one of the tool cribs. Maybe some sort of holster... Note that the tape measure basket on the left about halfway up is already overflowing. Will need to get second basket. Quite a few HF magnetic tool holders that have been cut into two pieces in the pic as well. Bought 7 yesterday @ $4 and will get more tomorrow. Had a brainstorm for tool rack for my modeling bench upstairs using two of them...

Having all of the tools out and immediately available is in direct contrast to Stevo's and Jack Olsen's "everything hidden" approach, but it seems to fit my very visual style. Dust will be a problem, but is easily dealt with.

22 oz Lagunitas Equinox: A Genuine Pale Oat Ale with 8% alcohol is lots of fun. Will not be doing anymore garage stuff tonight...:beer:

Nice progress! This looks great!
 
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Good morning! Hmmmm... Ammobox for Maxim, Degtjarjov DP-27 what we call 'Emma' and Dshk 38?

Very good. Maxim/SG43 cans are the two that can be seen on the first shelf just to the left of the hardboard and the yellow thing. DP27 (generally called DP28 in the states for some reason) are the two containers with the rounded tops and leather strap handle. Each holds three of the DP28 disk magazines, one of which is sitting on top the left ammo can, above the wood crate. Dshk 38/46 (Soviet version of .50 cal BMG) can is just to right of the crate, under the DP28 can. To the right of those are German 8mm ammo cans. Below the crate in a canvas bag is the Dshk tool kit which features two hammers; a metal hammer and a large wooden mallet.

The padded/quilted piece on the third shelf up and the other one about the middle of the second shelf are the carry backpacks for the bipod and baseplate of the Soviet 82mm mortar.

In the first of the Station 3 pics (second shelf, left), you can see a folded up lafette heavy mount for the MG34 and two folded lafette mounts for the MG42.

Tim
 
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Picked up a Sanborn 60 gal vertical compressor with replacement 1.5 HP 120/220v motor currently wired for 120v. yesterday ($60!

Any ideas on how to plumb another tank to a compressor (4 hp, 20 gallons) to add capacity? Is it as simple as running hose from the outlet of the first compressor to the inlet of the additional tank and moving the outlet plumbing to the new tank?)

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Compressor corner with Craftsman 4 HP/20 gal/220v compressor. Whatever happens compressor wise will happen here. Its centrally located to the garage and the shed, where there will be two separate rooms: belt sander/sand blast room and spray paint room (mostly for rattlecans, but I have spray guns and an airbrush as well).



Sanborn 60 gal vertical compressor with replacement 1.5 HP 120/220v motor currently wired for 120v.





These pieces give us a number of possibilities:
1. Craftsman compressor with 60gal receiver. Remove the compressor from the Sanborn tank and mount the new tank horizontally above the Craftsman compressor and plumb it to the Craftsman outlet. Spare electric motor gets switched to 220v and replaces the dead motor on my Jet 10" table saw. 220v table saw! This leaves the Sanborn compressor pump unused.

2. Sanborn compressor with Craftsman 220v motor. Pull the motor off of the Craftsman compressor and mount it on the Sanborn. There may be issues with the automatic startup/shut off on the Sanborn. This leaves the Craftsman compressor pump and tank as unsued

3. Whole hog: both compressors up and running. Rewire the 1.5 hp motor to 220 and put it back on the Sanborn. Space is a big problem as putting both of them in the same small space might not happen and there is only one 30 amp 220 circuit in the garage.

Thoughts?
 
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That must have felt great to walk in the next day and see that! :beer:

Yes it did, and it still does. :D

Wife is getting a little freaked out: "OMG he's been working on the garage for more than a month straight without getting sidetracked into other projects. What's wrong with him?" She thinks I have been way too happy and enthusiastic since the garage showed some serious progress...

I have to admit that I'm having a great time and am greatly encouraged by the progress so far.

Tim

PS After seeing your project, I am somewhat glad I only have a two car garage... :)
 
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Busy day today. Lots of crawling around on the floor...

Got one electric box sorted on bench 2. Behind the plastic 6 outlet box is a steel switch box with 2 outlets with a heavy extension cord courtesy of my dad. It was his version of an extension cord.



In order to do anything with the compressor area I needed to get the parts washer out of the way. Since one of the Ikea cabinets is large enough to fit the parts washer, I thought it might be cool to to have a pull-out parts washer. Took out the drawer slides and mounted the top drawer lower in the cabinet so the parts washer would fit in it. Then cut the cabinet swinging door to fit the new lower drawer and added the cut off piece to the top of the drawer front (new backing plate overlaps both drawer front sections), making a false drawer front.

Next put some blocks on the back of the cabinet to keep it from trying to tip over when pulling out the drawer with the full parts washer. The cabinet and drawer unit are pushed back under the table so that it might be possible to be seated on a stool and have a little knee clearance. Somehow ended up with an extra drawer pull so it may get added to the false drawer.





And finally, today's big splurge (for this build anyway), a new HF 26" tool chest. Got a $319 coupon and used it... Great fun to unload and put the casters on single handed. :) Needed a 26" wide chest to fit between the rails of the table saw that's behind the tool chest, so no big Steevo racks of multiple HF 44" tool chests... Old chest on the left. Never liked the open storage bin at the bottom of the old chest. It just collected junk, so am happy with the new all drawer chest. No idea where the old chest is going to go...

 
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Found a guy dismantling his kitchen on Craigslist freebies. Picked up the 36 cabinet doors two weeks ago and finally got to start pulling cabinets on Wednesday. Only picked up the three overhead cabinets, since their new ones are not ready yet and they are still using the kitchen counters. We got them home and got one of them up immediately. The other two need to have areas cleared to get to the wall for installation. Still need to pick up screws to remount the doors on the cabinets. Pics below.

Have also been working on the grinding table. Got it cleared off and the grinders mounted on the wall. The Ikea butcher block that will be the top has a couple of splits so I got them glued and clamped today and will wait a couple of days for the glue to dry completely before drilling for the vise. No pics yet...



 

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Great shop, and your really getting organized in there. I like the tool layout, easy to use and find things. I will be following your reorg all the way!

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Thanks guys!

Herb, after checking out your thread, it looks like I'm not the only one trying too stuff too much stuff into too small a space. I current have an old metal shed that is doing double duty as spray paint and blast cabinet room (not a good combination!), so there are plans to build a new 8' x 15' shed with a small spray paint room and a larger room for the "dusty" stuff (blast cabinets, dust collector, belt sanders and hopefully one or both of the table saws, similar to what you have done.

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Got the stereo moved and third cabinet up today, but have discovered a couple of issues with it. A. Its not actually a cabinet, but is an open shelf unit with no doors.
B. Its location interferes with the planned aux. 60 gal. air tank (20" diameter) to be mounted horizontally under the window. Approximate lowest possible centerline of the tank is the "+"marked on the wall above the compressor.



Possible solutions
A. I have excess doors that I may be able to rig up to fit, but it will take some figuring and probably some new vertical supports to carry some of the door hinges. Really do want doors on this thing. Will need to wait until I can get the rest of the cabinets so I have some other pieces of material to work with to make new hinge supports. We shall see...

B. The shelf unit is sandwiched between two outlets and is tight against the one on the right. Could drop the shelf unit 2.5" and then shift it to the right enough to clear the air tank, but this would put the right outlet inside the shelf unit and I do plan to have doors on it, so would have to cut a big hole in the bottom or side of the unit to run the cords inside.

The alternative would be to leave it where it is and chop a chunk out of the lower left corner to clear the air tank (grayed out part).

Thoughts?

Tim
 
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All right, I'm ready to plumb this thing. Pic of the setup below.

Upper tank is not permanently mounted yet. One leg will get lag bolted into the wall and chocks will get screwed into the 4x4 supports. Have replumbed the lower tank line so that I can actually reach the drain valve. Have stripped all of the old fittings off of the 60 gallon tank, relocated the drain to the bottom in the new position and blocked off all of the extra holes.

Outlet requirements are:
One coupler going up to feed overhead line that feeds the front of the garage.
One coupler to feed this workbench,
One line going through the wall to feed an outdoor coupler and to eventually go underground to feed the shed. There is enough slope to the property to place a line drain under the raised shed.

Was thinking of running the lower compressor outlet line back the to the right hand wall and then over the window and down in the area to the left of the window and down near the floor with a drain valve. Run a horizontal T off of this line to the manifold. One line with valve would run to the 60 gal tank.

Thoughts?

Manifold outlet sizes?

Thanks,

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Have been (and will be) ******* with a a long "honey do" list in the front yard and on the deck for her book club meeting next Friday, so not much has happened on the garage, but I have played around a bit with the air plumbing project. Have learned that piping gets a bit tricky when you try to cram a bunch of stuff in a small space...

Things were looking a bit complex in the tight space with manifold, regulator/filter and a few valves, so I decided to mock up the complex area in PVC to see how things might fit. How am I doing? Any suggestions appreciated!

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Blue=unions
Yellow=valves

Air comes in at the top from the compressor/primary tank after running through 25' of black pipe. Right hand "T" drop goes through the wall to outside. Through-the-wall pipe would have to be removed to make the unions to be usable. Could probably rework that drop to add another indoor union so that the wall pipe would not have to be removed.

Left hand "T" goes to the 60 gal. receiver. Valve can isolate the tank from the system (closed) or (open) add 60 gallons of capacity for higher volume tools.

Piping version 1
 
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I'll be the first one to say PLEASE! Don't use PVC for compressor lines. Replumb your set-up with black pipe. It's more difficult, I know, but it is much less prone to exploding after a few years...
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I'll be the first one to say PLEASE! Don't use PVC for compressor lines. Replumb your set-up with black pipe. It's more difficult, I know, but it is much less prone to exploding after a few years...
Mark

It's just a mock-up ;):

so I decided to mock up the complex area in PVC to see how things might fit.

Nice progress Tim!
 
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So, I was looking at pics of the IR C38231-600 regulator/filter/lubricator that is coming (thanks to coralnut or the deal tip) and noticed that the inlet is on the left and the outlet is on the right, which is the opposite of what I need. I will have to run the line under the unit and up to the inlet and then go up and over the unit from the outlet, requiring a new pipe layout.

Mocked up two versions. Yellow is valves, blue is unions for disassembly if necessary. Think I like the second one better. Thoughts?

Blue fittings will be unions (couplers). The line that goes down behind the workbench is the drain line. No plans for additional lines. Its very slightly larger than a standard 2 car garage and there is a 50' hose that goes from the manifold up to the ceiling and down the center of the garage towards the garage door and can reach anywhere in the garage. An extension get me to anywhere in the driveway. The line that goes through the wall goes to the back yard and to the shed which houses sandblasters. Currently I have to remove the screen and open the window to run an air line to the shed.



 
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I am liking that lathe in post 26. Can you tell me a little more about what you think of it.
I would like to find an affordable one for my own shop. I like the size and looks of yours.

Best Regards
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Nice project! I see a couple of Dietz-style lanterns in your very first pic - anything of vintage age? Do you use any vintage lanterns (Dietz, Coleman milspec, etc.) in your WWII re-enactment hobbies?

Cool stuff!

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I am liking that lathe in post 26. Can you tell me a little more about what you think of it.
I would like to find an affordable one for my own shop. I like the size and looks of yours.

Best Regards
Herb

Hi Herb,

Its this one from Harbor Freight:
http://www.harborfreight.com/8-inch-x-12-inch-precision-benchtop-lathe-44859.html

I paid around $600 for it, not $1000. Have not used it a lot but it has worked for what I was using it for. Have not tried any real precision work on it. At $1000, I might start looking for a used version of one of the higher quality small lathes out there and hope to get some tooling along with it for around the same amount.

Tim
 
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