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I've been reading many posts and researched many lifts. I just can't seem to get a good idea about anything because everyone swears by the current lift they own.

These are some of the lifts I've been looking at

Back yard buddy = $4295 with no options = too expensive
super lift SR-7H = $3695 with no options = too expensive

Master Series 8,000 lb. Deluxe Series Storage Lift = $1,795 ??
Direct lift pro park 8S = 1,995
Direct lift pro park 9 Plus = 2,795
Bendpak Hd-9 = 2530

I'm not sure what other options there are under 3000. I'd like to get decent build quality for as cheap as possible. $2000 is better than $3000. So far I like the Bendpak Hd-9 at the $2500 price point.

I'm looking for something to store 2 cars, where I can work underneath and has a sliding jack stand to jack up the car while on the lift. I also don't want this lift falling on me or the car underneath.

What is recommended for me here? My car is a 1994 toyota Supra turbo.

How are those $2000 lifts? Why are they so cheap? Any drawbacks for going this way?
 
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Dred, the search feature is your friend. This has been discussed many times. From my point of view, I won't step under a non-certified lift. How much is your car worth? How much is your life worth? Saving a $1000. would be good but at what cost? I'd suggest you look at the Bendpak or pro park. Both lifts are certified and close to your price point.

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Thanks, hoping for other advice.

I did use the search function extensively, but none of the posts came to any consensus for my price point. I've noticed everybody swearing by the lifts they bought and own. Maybe they are all the same at that price point.
 

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i just posted my 2 cents on this, i bought a used 4 month old 4 post byb for $2500 with extras and was ready to sell it because i listened to all the hype on the certification of lifts which byb is not certified, so i looked into the insurance claims on byb ...none looked farther and the only reason they are not cert is that they dont have a secondary locking system . they do have a slow flow fluid valve which if the hose was cut it would let the car down slow even in the event of lockings failed. in my quest i call bendpak and didnt like the made in china steel and welds and 3 sided posts compared to byb. but
check there insurance claims ...none. so for you its a matter of your wallet id stick with a bendpak or byb, i did see one of those cheaper lifts really thin post just cheap looking. good luck in your quest the internet is your friend as well as craigslist. good luck .
 

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i purchased an american eagle products tp09a a while back and though i have not installed it as of yet i have gone over it with a fine tooth comb and looking at the welds and stuff i am very pleased with my purchase especially since i bought it used(though it had never been uncrated) and got it for 200 cheaper than american eagle wants for it and didnt have to pay the shipping. I am not saying its the best lift just that i have been in the maintenance tech industry for along time and am familiar enough with steel and welds and what not to say it appears to be a good sturdy unit.


just my .02
 

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i bought a used rotary 10k lift from a body shop going out of business, the lift was 4 years old but looks to be new, and looks to be used very little. i contacted a lift service /installer company and for $400 they installed it and serviced it, everyone ive talked to and the lift service company all approve of Rotary lifts as being a good lift.
i got that Rotary lift and a bendpak sissor lift for $1700.... it was more than i wanted to spend but i thought it was a good lift for a good price... the body shop had another lift exactly like the rotary i got and i couldnt find any one who wanted/needed it for $1700
 

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First of all...I must say that I have friends with BYB, and they are all very happy.

That said, I ordered a Bend Pak HD9 today. The like the fact that it is certified, I liked the price, I liked the features......despite some parts being made in China...I have read so many positive reviews on these lifts that to me it was an easy choice.

I worked around a BYB a couple weekends ago. My main gripe was that the columns are indeed a solid tube, but the ramps ride on the outside, requiring the columns to be oiled. Not so great if you bump into one as I did.
 

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IMO, the HD-9 is the best lift @ the $3,000 price point - hands down..

As I've opined before, the primary reasons are the simplicity of the ladder/column system, secondary air locks, adjustable width ramps, pricing, certification, and customer service from BendPak.

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What about Greg Smith and his lifts. I think that they are tested and certified?
 
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Thanks for all the recommendations, I just needed to get some more information on budget lifts and I did here.

I've looked at all your recommendations, especially the dannmar lift, but I think I'm leaning towards a bendpak lift.

An important reason that pushed me towards this lift is that all the external cables are enclosed in the columns. Like Matt M said above, the BYB has its main columns that need to be lubricated, I wouldn't want to bump into this, and most other lifts have exposed external cables, I just don't want this exposed and don't want to rub into this if squeezing through the lift and car.

Bendpak seems to be the best option as it meets all the requirements and has enclosed cables. It also has a commercial look to it that I like.
 

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MATT M said;
"I worked around a BYB a couple weekends ago. My main gripe was that the columns are indeed a solid tube, but the ramps ride on the outside, requiring the columns to be oiled. Not so great if you bump into one as I did"

I've had a BYB for 8 or 9 years and never oiled the columns once. There are some white plastic blocks that ride on the column and appear to be some sort of frictionless material. I was a bit surprised at the BYB price listed in the first post. I paid less than $3000 and picked up the unit at a regional freight depot with a trailer to save another few bucks.
 

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I dont oil my post either there teflon impregnated plastic that slides perfect. no chance of getting grease or any oil on you at all.and the cables are exposed but in the corners you would never be near them working under the car.the square post is a rock solid design,just my 2 cents again.
 

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Well, guys...perhaps the guy that did the install for my friend was wrong about needing to have them lubed. More than a few people that either owned BYBs or were involved with lifts mentioned this to me. (This was not the only reason I chose a Bend Pak)

It would make sense (at least to me) that it would be wise to have some sort of lubrication regardless of the type of slides used.
 

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Was there not a copy lift or real early models that indeed did not have the plastic glides, but were metal on metal and required some lubrication ??
 

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What about Greg Smith and his lifts. I think that they are tested and certified?

I have a Greg Smith lift and am not displeased with the lift.

What I am displeased with is the horrible customer service I received when I called to inquire about the transmission jack I bought at the same time and did not work right out of the crate.

I was told by the tech person that three out of four of their jacks don't work out of the crate.

I was told by Greg Smith himself that the company policy is NOT that the customer is always right. He told me if I had my trans jack taken to his store in Indianapolis I would be given a new replacement jack. When I had my jack taken there, my colleague who took it there was given a zip-lc baggie with three O-rings in it and told to leave. New jack my ***! Now, not only do I have a jack that doesn't work, I have a project when what I thought I was buying was a transmission jack.

I run a profit-seeking shop. I need tools that do the job they are supposed to do, not a bunch of insults from a vendor and certainly don't need another project.

Sadly, Greg Smith shot himself in the foot. I hope to be installing a second lift this summer! It WILL NOT be purchased from Greg Smith.

W/R/T my trans jack, I got one from Harbor Freight to finish the job the Greg Smith jack had been bought for-I figured I could throw the H-F one away after the job was done. The H-F trans jack has been soldiering on for two years!

BEWARE of Greg Smith, in spite of the slick lines he gives folks.
 
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My name is Greg Smith. We have been a successful family owned business for almost thirty years. Over the years we have dealt with thousands of satisfied customers and appreciate their loyal support.
One of our customers sent me this link to Mr. Schram's negative comments. Our company remembers Mr. Schram very well. Mr. Schram bought a Direct Lift Pro Park 7 from us in June of 2007. This is a hobbyist lift and not designed for commercial use. He also bought a $55 single stage transmission jack to use in a commercial garage.
Both the Pro Park 7 and the $55 transmission jack are not designed for commercial use...and would have never been recommended or sold to Mr. Schram if our company would have known how this equipment was to be used.
I apologize to Mr. Schram if he believes he was mistreated. Our warranty policy is clearly stated on our web site...and we make every effort to "bend" that policy in favor of the customer. Mr. Schram's claim that the jack did not work out of the box is perhaps "stretching it" a little.
I do not like being called "slick"....I can accept being called other names....but "slick" reminds me of a past USA president of whom I am not particularly proud.
If any Forum member would like to discuss this issue with me...please call our office. We are proud of all our equipment and have an excellent name in the automotive equipment aftermarket Industry.
Thank you for reading this response.
 
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I tend to agree with Greg Smith in regards to using hobbyist grade equipment for commercial purposes. I am in the process of shopping for a hoist myself and I will most likely be purchasing the Direct Lift Pro-9F from Greg Smith in a month or so. The ceiling in my garage is only 10ft so I have limitations as to what I can install.

Now as far as customer service goes, I've personally never had any issues with Greg Smith. I met the guy in person and he takes the time to educate you on what equipment you should buy based on your needs. The guy is not a salesman and he doesn't upsell you into something you don't need. Hell, he'd talk you out of it if he didn't think you'd need it. Yes, I saw this first hand because I tried to encourage another buyer there to spring for the rolling jacks on his new 4 post drive on. I know I'd want to pull the wheels off a car sooner or later if I were him. Greg told this farmer guy he didn't need it, that he was only using it for storing cars in his barn, not working on them like me. That was a good chunk of additional sales, that he didn't pounce on. As a professional auto mechanic, I can tell you that this is something of a rarity with sales staff these days. You really do get what you pay for. $55 for a transmission jack is nothing more than a hydraulic ram on wheels with a pedestal. No professional worth their weight would ever even entertain using that to do any heavy lifting. We purchased a 1/2 ton unit that cost just under $400. When we made it home after the 3 hour drive, we did notice that there was little to no oil in it, but so what? The price was fantastic. If you purchased a similar item off one of the tool trucks, you'd spend three times as much. Fact is, many of those are made off shore as well. Anyone within a reasonable distance from his warehouse ought to stop by and check it out. Talk about a kid in a candy store.
 

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So if a "hobbyist" or "budget" lift fails and drops on your head will it cause less pain? No... so why would anyone buy a lift that isn't good enough to use everyday?

Would you buy "budget" gas pipe? "Budget" heart surgery? How much is your life worth?

I live on a tight budget... probably tighter than most folks on this board. But I'd sooner wait until I can afford quality rather than settle for something I can't trust.
 
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I just watched that video on Greg Smith's web site on how to safely remove your lift from the freight truck. How the heck do you guys with just regular garages at your homes get these things off the truck? I don't have any access to a fork lift and I highly doubt a truck would be able to back into my driveway, just curious how the heck I'd be able to get one into my garage??
I guess once its off the truck, you can take it all apart and move it in piece by piece, but I don't know how the heck I'd get it off the the truck.
 

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I took delivery of my HD-9 last week. It was delivered to a shipping terminal 5 minutes from home, I used a friend's car trailer to pick it up. The guys at the terminal picked up the lift with their forklift and put it on the trailer for me. Once home I used an engine hoist to get the ramps off the trailer. Everything else I was able to move myself. I was able to lift the posts and one end of the crossbars by myself. I also had a selection of dollies to move everything around once it was on the ground. I needed a friend to help lift the assembled posts and crossbars, then since he was still there he helped me get the runways in place. The hardware they gave me to attach the runways was the incorrect grade so I couldn't get it to their recommended torque spec without stripping. I replaced those nuts and bolts for $15 at a local hardware store. The rest of the lift went together fine and in less than 2 days.

I would not have it delivered to my home since I don't have a forklift or bobcat. I would recommend the method I described above.
 

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lots of times the home delivery will cost you extra, but if you do get the home delivery either the truck driver has a way to get it off or they are patient enough to let you dissasemble it from the package on the truck and take pieces down individually but i would suggest having at least another set of hands if not 2, as the truck driver doesnt want to be there for an hour but could usually care less about 15-20 minutes.
 

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I took delivery of my HD-9 last week. ...The hardware they gave me to attach the runways was the incorrect grade so I couldn't get it to their recommended torque spec without stripping. I replaced those nuts and bolts for $15 at a local hardware store. ....

I had the exact same issue last week. One of the lock washers got totally mangled torquing it up. The instruction manual needs some work but I am happy with the lift and would not have wanted a lighter duty unit. It goes up pretty quickly too.

ps it doesn't roll on the casters with a car on it like the Youtube commercial. I just roll it around w/o a car on it.
 

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I noticed the casters weren't centered on the cross tubes and were not level to the floor. Once I got the casters pointed in the right direction it was easier to push around, next time I'm going to make sure the casters are centered correctly and pointed right before I put the whole weight on them.
 

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I have a direct lift pro park plus 8 and I love it. I also have the hydralic jack and it works great. I feel totally safe with this lift. My dad is looking at the pro-park 9 plus. I had it delivered to a local shipping yard, they put it on my trailer and I assembled it with a Harbor freight engine hoist. If I could only figure out how to use it.:bounce:
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I see others do as I do!!!!!
now you need to lay on your back to work on it!
I guess old habits are hard to break!

anyone feel the 7k is big enough? or would you go bigger just for safety?
just using it on 57 and daily drivers
thanks
 

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So if a "hobbyist" or "budget" lift fails and drops on your head will it cause less pain? No... so why would anyone buy a lift that isn't good enough to use everyday?

Would you buy "budget" gas pipe? "Budget" heart surgery? How much is your life worth?

I live on a tight budget... probably tighter than most folks on this board. But I'd sooner wait until I can afford quality rather than settle for something I can't trust.

You'd be surprised at how many people or even shops for that matter use equipment that aren't cut out for the job.

You are right that your life and limbs ought to be worth more than the few bucks, but that's the way it is. Do you ever wonder how many people price shop? As an example, you can get cheap imported brake pads for most cars or trucks for less than $20 a set these days. How would you like to have them on your tow rig as you are getting ready to descend from 4,000 ft with your new 29' boat in your rear view mirror ??
 

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You'd be surprised at how many people or even shops for that matter use equipment that aren't cut out for the job.

You are right that your life and limbs ought to be worth more than the few bucks, but that's the way it is. Do you ever wonder how many people price shop? As an example, you can get cheap imported brake pads for most cars or trucks for less than $20 a set these days. How would you like to have them on your tow rig as you are getting ready to descend from 4,000 ft with your new 29' boat in your rear view mirror ??

You know, I often see posts like this in the forums.
My first thought is always, does the poster sell the products talked about in the thread, and is trying to justify his high prices?
Not being argumentative here and really not trying to hassle you, but I have to wonder, do YOU pay retail for everything?

Or, perhaps, retail plus 20%?
Do you ever shop on sale? Or do you wait till the sale ends so you won’t spend less money?
Do you call around for estimates, then pick the highest, in the belief that the guy who charges more, does better work?
Do you only go to restaurants that have valet and even the waiter wears a tux? And that’s just for breakfast?
Do you only buy coffee at Starbucks?
Do you only buy the most expensive wine, even for table wine, because, well, it must be better, it costs more?
Do you have your clothing made? Off the rack is so much cheaper, it can’t be any good, right?
Do you always buy the extended warranty? On a ten dollar item?

Do you see where I’m coming from?

In my life I have found lots of things that were much better in the more expensive grade, but I have found LOTS of things that were just as good for lots less money.


The best furniture I ever bought was from the makers, or special deals at major warehouses. (I don’t mean junk shops like IKEA, but they have their place).
Paying extra almost never assures you of higher quality. Sorry. The economics don’t work that way.
What you often pay for is location, convenience, prestige, a fancy store front, salesman commission, bragging rights. Sorry, you can keep these as far as I’m concerned. Well, convenience I will pay a little more for, as I am old.

Paying extra for work being done ‘may’ give you better quality work, but only if you are into the high end custom work. You get ten estimates on putting up a job and while the bottom two are probably shoddy, the top two will just reflect the higher price on the salesman who sells the product.
Having bought and sold a LOT of stuff, with a LOT of stores over the years, I noticed that the ‘quality tap’ was only sometimes hooked to the ‘price tap’.
Ditto on the quality workmanship.
Nissan and Toyota sold for a fraction of what their competitors sold for in the 80’s. and had twice the quality. Suzuki made a quality car. Many are still on the road at 250k miles. It sold for one fourth what the over rated Honda’s sold for, and had a MUCH higher satisfaction rate.
I have seen 2000 dollar pistols that didn’t perform near as well as a 200 dollar Ruger, sold next to it in the case.
I have bought 800 dollar pistols that I had to send back to the builder to get them to WORK, while I have bought cheap pistols like the Makrov that shoot straight, function every time, for 100 bucks new.

Seen many ‘bargain’ parts that were made on the same line as the ‘deluxe’ parts. I know, I was at the factory and bought the boxcars full. Some went to my stores at discount prices. Others went to VERY high price distributers. Did the people paying 4-6 times as much get a better deal because they sold for more???

I think one of the most scary things in our society is the idea that paying more for something is better.
Houses worth 100k were selling for 400k lately. No reason, just people thought they were 'worth more' right then. Not so much now...

Buying a good product, at a good price, is sound judgment.
Yup, you can bargain hunt till you buy junk very easily. But paying too much is just sad.
 

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Wow talk about taking things out of context...

I think you taking CarCrafter's post to the extreme here. A cheap cup of coffee or a value priced set of bed room furniture is not going threaten life and limb if it fails to meet the standards that it's being used for.
I think CarCrafter's point was that there are different levels of lifts on the market. Some are designed for light duty, some for heavy duty and some in-between. Allot of people choose to purchase light duty lifts to save a few bucks and end up using them like a heavy duty lift which over stresses the lifts safety features.
I agree with him 100% that if you are buying a lift and there is one for $2000 that seems to be "OK", but may be on the edge of its limitations for your environment and then there is one for $3000 that is rated above and beyond the specifications of your environment, this might be one of those times you want to spend the extra $1k.
We're not talking about buying cereal at Wegmans vs. Shop Rite brand, or Target batteries instead of Energizer. We're talking about making an intelligent decision based on the limitations of a product that could kill you, rather than just the best price.
 

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You know, I often see posts like this in the forums.
My first thought is always, does the poster sell the products talked about in the thread, and is trying to justify his high prices?
Not being argumentative here and really not trying to hassle you, but I have to wonder, do YOU pay retail for everything?

Or, perhaps, retail plus 20%?
Do you ever shop on sale? Or do you wait till the sale ends so you won’t spend less money?
Do you call around for estimates, then pick the highest, in the belief that the guy who charges more, does better work?
Do you only go to restaurants that have valet and even the waiter wears a tux? And that’s just for breakfast?
Do you only buy coffee at Starbucks?
Do you only buy the most expensive wine, even for table wine, because, well, it must be better, it costs more?
Do you have your clothing made? Off the rack is so much cheaper, it can’t be any good, right?
Do you always buy the extended warranty? On a ten dollar item?

Do you see where I’m coming from?

In my life I have found lots of things that were much better in the more expensive grade, but I have found LOTS of things that were just as good for lots less money.


The best furniture I ever bought was from the makers, or special deals at major warehouses. (I don’t mean junk shops like IKEA, but they have their place).
Paying extra almost never assures you of higher quality. Sorry. The economics don’t work that way.
What you often pay for is location, convenience, prestige, a fancy store front, salesman commission, bragging rights. Sorry, you can keep these as far as I’m concerned. Well, convenience I will pay a little more for, as I am old.

Paying extra for work being done ‘may’ give you better quality work, but only if you are into the high end custom work. You get ten estimates on putting up a job and while the bottom two are probably shoddy, the top two will just reflect the higher price on the salesman who sells the product.
Having bought and sold a LOT of stuff, with a LOT of stores over the years, I noticed that the ‘quality tap’ was only sometimes hooked to the ‘price tap’.
Ditto on the quality workmanship.
Nissan and Toyota sold for a fraction of what their competitors sold for in the 80’s. and had twice the quality. Suzuki made a quality car. Many are still on the road at 250k miles. It sold for one fourth what the over rated Honda’s sold for, and had a MUCH higher satisfaction rate.
I have seen 2000 dollar pistols that didn’t perform near as well as a 200 dollar Ruger, sold next to it in the case.
I have bought 800 dollar pistols that I had to send back to the builder to get them to WORK, while I have bought cheap pistols like the Makrov that shoot straight, function every time, for 100 bucks new.

Seen many ‘bargain’ parts that were made on the same line as the ‘deluxe’ parts. I know, I was at the factory and bought the boxcars full. Some went to my stores at discount prices. Others went to VERY high price distributers. Did the people paying 4-6 times as much get a better deal because they sold for more???

I think one of the most scary things in our society is the idea that paying more for something is better.
Houses worth 100k were selling for 400k lately. No reason, just people thought they were 'worth more' right then. Not so much now...

Buying a good product, at a good price, is sound judgment.
Yup, you can bargain hunt till you buy junk very easily. But paying too much is just sad.

Let's be clear here. I am not salesman and I don't get any commission on anything I endorse. My opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it. If anything, I am on the purchasing end. I am a professional technician by day at an import dealership and I use this equipment on a daily basis. As far as paying retail or not, sometimes there just isn't a choice. Have you ever seen equipment failure that caused injuries ? Hurting yourself or others just because you were trying to save a few bucks just isn't worth it when "$hit happens" and they can't repair it. Do a search on safety goggles, and you'll see my response to others, encouraging them to spend the extra bucks to buy the best. That's experience from someone who's lost an eye due to a lapse in judgment and cheap goggles many moons ago. I don't sell goggles or represent them by the way.

I am going to be buying an imported lift myself because I can't squeeze in a Mohawk or Rotary into my budget at this time. With that said, I also know that I will be hard on my equipment. So you really have to consider what your application is going to be. I have a MAC box with an assortment of Snap-on , MAC, Matco and Craftsman all to way to Harbor Freight tools in it. There are some things that you simply cannot compromise on. Do I pay retail every time? I try not to but I also know when I have to. I've been trying and failing at cultivating my money tree orchard. Think I'd have better luck if I buried paper bills instead of coinage??:)

Sure, the transmission jack may be rated at 1,000 lbs, and really it was designed to pull out just the trans only. Yet we used to pull out 4R100s with the transfer case attached on Ford SuperDuty trucks. How is that for pushing the limits? The ram on wheels is rated for the same capacity, but I guarantee you that the trans & transfer case assembly would have tipped that over and none of us would have even been tempted to try that if the ****** jack wasn't hefty enough.
 

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Wow talk about taking things out of context...

I think you taking CarCrafter's post to the extreme here. snip
We're talking about making an intelligent decision based on the limitations of a product that could kill you, rather than just the best price.


You missed my point. As I said, I see a LOT of posts like this, on everything from screwdrivers to whole garages. The whole theme is 'PAY, PAY, PAY, or you are an idiot.

Not the specific post, again, I was responding to the whole genre of posts saying don't save, don't look for a better deal, always pay the most you can.

Buying high quality in safety gear makes great sense.

Paying extra for no better quality, which is what often happens, makes no sense.

The brakes and mirror part of his analogy was what I was mostly referring to. You can pay up to ten times as much for the same brake pad, depending on where you buy it. I mean, the SAME pad. Ditto on mirrors, and many other things.

Get something safe, but don't get something that costs more, because it costs more.:lol_hitti

Follow?:thumbup:

Oh, by the way, a gun is safety equipment, isn’t it? So is a quality car, if you see what I mean.
As to the cup of coffee, yeah, I’ve had some cheap ones that might endanger your life…
 

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Let's be clear here. I am not salesman and I don't get any commission on anything I endorse. My opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it. If anything, I am on the purchasing end. I am a professional technician by day at an import dealership and I use this equipment on a daily basis. As far as paying retail or not, sometimes there just isn't a choice. Have you ever seen equipment failure that caused injuries ? Hurting yourself or others just because you were trying to save a few bucks just isn't worth it when "$hit happens" and they can't repair it. Do a search on safety goggles, and you'll see my response to others, encouraging them to spend the extra bucks to buy the best. That's experience from someone who's lost an eye due to a lapse in judgment and cheap goggles many moons ago. I don't sell goggles or represent them by the way.

I am going to be buying an imported lift myself because I can't squeeze in a Mohawk or Rotary into my budget at this time. With that said, I also know that I will be hard on my equipment. So you really have to consider what your application is going to be. I have a MAC box with an assortment of Snap-on , MAC, Matco and Craftsman all to way to Harbor Freight tools in it. There are some things that you simply cannot compromise on. Do I pay retail every time? I try not to but I also know when I have to. I've been trying and failing at cultivating my money tree orchard. Think I'd have better luck if I buried paper bills instead of coinage??:)

Sure, the transmission jack may be rated at 1,000 lbs, and really it was designed to pull out just the trans only. Yet we used to pull out 4R100s with the transfer case attached on Ford SuperDuty trucks. How is that for pushing the limits? The ram on wheels is rated for the same capacity, but I guarantee you that the trans & transfer case assembly would have tipped that over and none of us would have even been tempted to try that if the ****** jack wasn't hefty enough.

Didn't really think you were pimping something, though, Lord knows, there are thousands of posts in every forum doing just that, and they are usually the first through tenth post from the user, so you kinda see why I might ask, without being unfair.:)

I think if you read a few thousand, or tens of thousands of posts, you will see why I sometimes want to beat my head against a wall because of all the guys posting the 'pay full retail, pay more than retail, whatever' and anything less than custom built is schlock.

The old, if you can't buy a Mac top of the line box, you might just as well keep your tools in a paper bag.
That's a quote, by the way.

By the way, I just spent some time telling a friend why he shouldn’t buy a hobby lift to use in his shop, and explaining to him about tools for homeowners vs. tools for pros, so I hear you on that jack.

You know, I think the mix of rich hobbyists, full time pro tool users, starting tool users and do-it -yourselfers make for a lot of confusion and discussion on this forum.
Each has his own reality.
Well, makes for a lively forum with lots of posting and something for everyone.

Best of luck getting a lift that works great for you, and be safe.:thumbup:
 

CarCrafter

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I hear ya, I am sure there are peddlers on here with multiple accounts pretending to be different people while carrying on a discussion with themselves. They are probably so desperate that they NEED the FAKE endorsements and recommendations. It really just boils down to knowing, or at the very least knowing when to ask the right person. Sometimes, a good sales person will lose the sale because he or she knows you can get a better deal or a better quality product, or both, elsewhere. Then again there are a lot of sales staff out there who will do anything to get the sale. I've been in and out of car dealerships for the last 15 years.. I can assure you that I would never buy a used vehicle from a dealership or used car lot because first hand knowledge.
 
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