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Pro America ratchets or pliers ? Who has some ?

Know Wosad

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I just ordered a 15" x 1/2" drive round head tatchet and an 11" long pair of sliplocks on ebuy. They have USA all over it. Old Kal ? I emailed the dealer and he said the ratchets were just made in the last several weeks. I figured at $50 delivered it may be worth a shot. He said he thinks "at least 45 teeth".
The pliers say USA and have a small wrap like Channelock which I prefer over the comfort "mitten" grips. I hate those.
Does anyone have any of these ?
 
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As far as I know. Pro America is a division of Stanley. They do contract production for military. I have a couple combo wrenches in satin finish. They look like Proto.
 

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I would like to try the crimping pliers. They kinda look like Klein or T&B. Similar price too. I would try them all actually. I wonder if they are an OEM for any one like Proto or Mac ? I know Channel lock OEMs for Mac but not sure about Proto.
 

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I would like to try the crimping pliers. They kinda look like Klein or T&B. Similar price too. I would try them all actually. I wonder if they are an OEM for any one

Probably. I know KAL used to make the extra long dykes and long nose pliers sold by MATCO/CORNWELL/MAC and others back in the 1990's before they all went the PRC made route.
 

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Probably. I know KAL used to make the extra long dykes and long nose pliers sold by MATCO/CORNWELL/MAC and others back in the 1990's before they all went the PRC made route.

I do have a set of Mac extra long needle nose that are marked USA . Probably made by them.
 

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I have their long reach needle nose straight, 45, and 90. Also their long reach dikes. Use them all the time(A&P Mechanic), the 45 the most. I plan on buying more of their pliers as I need them. As much as I'd like to have a drawer full of the entire Knipex catalog, the Pro America's have a great quality to cost ratio, and of course made in the USA.
 
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That's great. It looks like a legit operation. The pliers aren't inexpensive but they run more than Chanelock from what I see.Once they hit the shop a few more might get ordered. Optimistically skeptical these years. I hope they're real nice ! I see a few styles to bring in.
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I don't see anything on their website about sockets and ratchets as mentioned in other posts. Is it something used to make?
 

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Proamerica is headquarted in Baldwin Park, California, and has no connection to Stanley.
They were/are known also as "KAL", but the product is being stamped "Proamerica" to develop brand identity.

KAL was mostly manufactured in the US, but in the 80s, 90s, and later outsourced product from both Japan (which was actually decent quality) and Taiwan (I will offer no comment on that.) For some consumers, the "KAL" name became associated and identified with "cheap Asian import".

Current Proamerica product is all US-made.
Both KAL and Proamerica are big suppliers for military/GSA contracts and have been for years. (see Ebay sellers " markandmandee" and " Keystone Enterprises " for KAL/Proamerica surplus items sold on the cheap - many of which are engraved.)
Proamerica currently supplies items to Jensen Tool, Armstrong, and Proto, among others. (That's as much as I've been able to ferret out from talking with different people.)

As to product quality: I can speak only to fit/finish/appearance, which in my view is first-rate. Nicely made, good-looking product. Most of what I've acquired was little miniature pliers for my girlfriend to work on her "crafty" stuff, and I'm not in the habit of beating my tools, so I can't give you an honest assessment of how they perform under heavy use.

GJ member Jeremy V recently purchased the three-piece set of ring-hose pliers - this model:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pro-America...631889?hash=item210d094451:g:o1YAAOSwiylXBs8T
It appears Bowers has sold out of the 3-piece sets and just has singles now. They were made to order for Bowers (partly at the request of GJ members. see the 'ring nose' plier thread cited below.)
Thus far Jeremy hasn't given us any feedback on them. ( or Silver 11, who also purchased a set.) See below and scroll up a few posts and read:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5691288&highlight=ring+nose+pliers#post5691288

I'm surprised Bowers brought in the ratchets. Obviously he's happy with product quality and sales figures. That he's expanding the line speaks volumes.

I have three or four of their little 1/4" drive ratchets in sets (of either Proamerica or KAL.) The ratchets have a surprisingly fine mechanism for such a tiny piece of machinery.
The 1/4" drive sets look like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pro-America...:g:2fMAAOSwe7BWzOZ9&item=161987305007&vxp=mtr
At least two of mine are military surplus and are in plastic blow-mold cases.
Fit, finish, and appearance on the sockets and other drive accessories is first-rate.
I don't use 1/4" drive to remove manifold bolts or wheel nuts - I have bigger stuff for that. I would imagine they'll serve their intended purpose working on lawnmowers.

It's not Snap-on, but it's certainly several rungs up the ladder from any Harbor Freight stuff. Also relatively competitively priced overall: some stuff is going to be higher than some other US brands, some lower.

KAL 501 1.4 drive socket set.jpgProamerica 8 in duckbill pliers.jpgProamerica 4018 5.75 in long smooth-jaw needle nose pliers.jpg

Proamerica 5013 7 inch needle-nose pliers 01.jpgProamerica 5032 9 in. crimping pliers with cutter.jpgProamerica 5047 11 inch x 5.16 inch ring-nose pliers 03.jpg

Proamerica 5049 11 inch x 3.4 inch ring-nose pliers 03.jpg
 
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Know Wosad said:
As I said the epay dealer said they were made in the last few weeks.

Most likely true.
The ring-nose pliers were made just a couple months ago.

Not the first time they've made ratchets, though... .as I noted, KAL is an old company - they've been around for a long time - search Ebay for "KAL tool" and you'll see all kinds of odd stuff they made.

Used to be commonly found on red tool boards behind counters in parts stores. Just kind of faded into oblivion at some point and focused on supplying the government and other tool vendors.

> there have been several discussions about Proamerica here in the "Ebay hot deals" thread and another one on "precision miniature pliers". the "search" button is above ^ ;)

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picture as promised: (Four Cycle is right I never heard of any Stanley connection).
 

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Proamerica ratchets (new)

Proamerica 4150 1/4" drive RHFT ratchet 41 tooth *
new
$17.99 incl. shipping "buy now"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pro-America...:g:xAMAAOSw0gdXTJCj&item=142009486695&vxp=mtr

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Proamerica 5150 3/8" drive RHFT ratchet 41 tooth *
new
$23.99 incl. shipping "buy now"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pro-America...:g:nygAAOSwY0lXTJGY&item=131832644801&vxp=mtr

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Proamerica 6150 1/2" drive RHFT ratchet 45 tooth *
new
$32.99 incl. shipping "buy now"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pro-America...:g:nlIAAOSwOtBXTJKk&item=142009491777&vxp=mtr

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Proamerica 6162 1/2" drive RHFT 15-inch ratchet 45 tooth *
new
$49.99 incl. shipping "buy now"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pro-America...:g:NigAAOSw0gdXTJPd&item=162087659028&vxp=mtr

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Proamerica 4150, 5150, and 6150 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" RHFT ratchets (three ratchets) (tooth count see above)
new
$69.99 incl. shipping "buy now"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pro-America...:g:~fUAAOSwie5XTI9Z&item=131832639256&vxp=mtr

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Proamerica 6160 1/2" drive 10-inch breaker
new
$24.99 incl. shipping "buy now"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pro-America...:g:Hw4AAOSwNsdXTJR8&item=162087663278&vxp=mtr

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(* Not yet carried by Bowers Tool : 3/4" drive RHFT ratchet 45 tooth * )

* source (for tooth count): Proamerica 06/01/16

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Proamerica corporate offices located in Baldwin Park, California

Forging facility located in Pennsylvania.

"We now only manufacture Proamerica Pliers. However, with GSA, we only carry a small line of KAL items which we do not sell to other companies or individuals."

"... we can mention is that we make most of the big industrial brand pliers..."

* source: Proamerica 06/01/16
 
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