Raptor bed-liner as a garage floor coating

kaje36 · Oct 10, 2016

I figured I would share some photos of the coating I just put down on my garage floor. The floor itself wasn't in great condition, it had a lot of spalling concrete that I repaired myself, The previous owner never sealed the concrete and after a few years of winter ice it had some big ruts.

I could have ground the repair smooth, but didn't care enough to spend the time and rent the grinder, lol

Before

But I rolled on about 15 liters of tint-able raptor bed-liner to cover the 900sqft. (around 19 liters total with tint) I would recommend doing a second coat if you want to hide more sins, or perfect coverage. But I was happy, and didn't feel like doing another coat.

The nice thing about raptor, is how it handles. its one of the most rugged coatings when it comes to acidic chemicals. I have heard if a coating can handle aviation hydraulic fluid for 5 minutes, its good... this can handle it for 24 hours! it can handle acids, and brake fluids without a problem.

After

-Mark

onecleanride78 · Oct 10, 2016

Wow

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oldtimer50 · Oct 10, 2016

So Kaje, where can you purchase this in the US? How many square feet did you have and what did it cost to buy all of the material to coat it? Did you mix the color and what did you use to do that?

Thanks

Ben

EdT · Oct 10, 2016

How well does it handle water vapor coming up from the concrete?

kaje36 · Oct 10, 2016

oldtimer50 said:
So Kaje, where can you purchase this in the US?

I recommend Levine's auto But I think there are a few others, some of your local auto-parts stores that have paint supplies might be able to get it.

oldtimer50 said:
How many square feet did you have and what did it cost to buy all of the material to coat it?

I had a hair under 900 sq ft if you include the border. As for the cost, I cant really say, lol sorry!

oldtimer50 said:
Did you mix the color and what did you use to do that?

I went to my local sanels Autoparts, and bought a gallon of Nason blue, and a quart of white paint, I still have about a 2.5 quarts left over (one of streight blue, 1.5 mixed) I just used a paint mixing bit on my drill for a few minutes

EdT said:
How well does it handle water vapor coming up from the concrete?

I dont know the exact answer to that, but I know its more rugged then standard epoxy.. the MBTA maintenance building in Boston used to have to re-epoxy their floors every year, 5 years ago they put down Raptor, and it still looks brand new!

churd9 · Oct 10, 2016

That's going to come up

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bullnerd · Oct 10, 2016

churd9 said:
That's going to come up

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Come on dude! You have to give a reason why you know or think this.

BIG-BRO · Oct 11, 2016

They do list concrete as a substrate:
http://www.finishmaster.com/prod/assets/RLT-TDS-US.pdf

And indicate that concrete should be sealed before applying.

zzflattop · Oct 11, 2016

Man that looks really good! I hope you don't have any issues!

Please keep us posted...

Ron

churd9 · Oct 11, 2016

It's very hard to find a floor materiel that will last not stain not pull up from hot tires you need something that bonds with the concrete not sit on top

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rwhite692 · Oct 11, 2016

Wow indeed. Does Raptor recommend their product for this application?

What was the total cost?

tncatadjuster · Oct 11, 2016

This has not been done successfully to my knowledge.
Best of luck.

kaje36 · Oct 12, 2016

rwhite692 said:
Wow indeed. Does Raptor recommend their product for this application?

Yes they do! Technical Data Sheet
as far as cost, I think its about the same as most epoxy coating systems. (The coverage when rolled on is about double of what is is sprayed)

tncatadjuster said:
This has not been done successfully to my knowledge.
Best of luck.

what hasn't been done successfully?

churd9 said:
It's very hard to find a floor materiel that will last not stain not pull up from hot tires you need something that bonds with the concrete not sit on top

So far after 5 years the Boston MBTA is VERY happy with it, I don't know what epoxy products they used in the past that didnt last so well.

churd9 · Oct 12, 2016

What is mbta

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kaje36 · Oct 12, 2016

churd9 said:
What is mbta

They are the organization that handles all the busses and mass transport for the city of Boston. They raptor is in their repair garage for all of their busses. They used to re-epoxy the floor every year. Since they put raptor in 5 years ago, they havent needed to.

Crusarius · Oct 12, 2016

does everything appear to be blue now? I like the idea of a colored floor but keep wondering if it will change the colors of stuff like wires enough to cause problems.

kaje36 · Oct 12, 2016

Crusarius said:
does everything appear to be blue now? I like the idea of a colored floor but keep wondering if it will change the colors of stuff like wires enough to cause problems.

Nope, the finish is more of a satin finish, so not a lot of reflection. If you look at the white garage doors in the photos, you can see its only very slightly blue, but still mostly white.

Weekend_warrior · Oct 12, 2016

Looks great... Did you seal the concrete beforehand like it was listed in the documentation for the product or do you know if the MBTA did?

You will have to keep us updated. I was looking doing U-POL for my truck bed and top rails, but not sure I want to do it myself, but to broke to pay anyone else! I'll like end up doing it myself.

NKlamerus · Oct 12, 2016

Absolutely love Raptor Liner. So much better than any roll on bed liner and is definetly priced competitively. I had it for 2 years on various parts of my truck, never scrubbed or peeled like the rhino liner in my bed did.

What PSI did you spray at?

kaje36 · Oct 12, 2016

Weekend_warrior said:
Looks great... Did you seal the concrete beforehand like it was listed in the documentation for the product or do you know if the MBTA did?

No i didnt, I also found our the MBTA didnt either! but they were also dealing with old epoxy stuff.. so they might have sealed it years ago.. to many variables to really say if they count or not! lol
I did clean with Simple green, then acid etched.

NKlamerus said:
What PSI did you spray at?

I used an 18 inch roller!
The floor and the Dash of my race car is Raptor (the stuff on the dash is reduced, dont remember by how much) Also misted some green pearl over the top.

NKlamerus · Oct 12, 2016

kaje36 said:
No i didnt, I also found our the MBTA didnt either! but they were also dealing with old epoxy stuff.. so they might have sealed it years ago.. to many variables to really say if they count or not! lol
I did clean with Simple green, then acid etched.

I used an 18 inch roller!
The floor and the Dash of my race car is Raptor (the stuff on the dash is reduced, dont remember by how much) Also misted some green pearl over the top.

Ah! I figured you would have sprayed it down from the spray gun they sell separately.

bullnerd · Oct 13, 2016

churd9 said:
It's very hard to find a floor materiel that will last not stain not pull up from hot tires you need something that bonds with the concrete not sit on top

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Yeah, I forgot about the hot tire thing.

Seems like if it can bond with smooth painted steel, concrete should give it plenty of grip?

Weekend_warrior · Oct 13, 2016

kaje36 said:
No i didnt, I also found our the MBTA didnt either! but they were also dealing with old epoxy stuff.. so they might have sealed it years ago.. to many variables to really say if they count or not! lol
I did clean with Simple green, then acid etched.

If you etched you should should have good adhesion. The only issue if an I could possibly see is the the moisture in the concrete lifting. I assume that is the reason they would recommend a sealer first. If the concrete is older it might not be as big of a deal either. Like you said... So many variables its hard to really say.

turbofreak403 · Oct 13, 2016

floor looks awesome! love the color!

kaje36 said:
No i didnt, I also found our the MBTA didnt either! but they were also dealing with old epoxy stuff.. so they might have sealed it years ago.. to many variables to really say if they count or not! lol
I did clean with Simple green, then acid etched.

I used an 18 inch roller!
The floor and the Dash of my race car is Raptor (the stuff on the dash is reduced, dont remember by how much) Also misted some green pearl over the top.

hate to get off topic but love the nissan, what Chassis?

kaje36 · Oct 13, 2016

turbofreak403 said:
floor looks awesome! love the color!
hate to get off topic but love the nissan, what Chassis?

Thanks! 98 s14 240sx, but there is almost nothing stock left, and so many parts from other cars! (Mazda rx7, mitsubishi 300GT, subaru legacy GT, nissan 300zx, nissan skyline...)

vavet · Dec 9, 2016

Just found this about Raptor liner. It looks great.

Thinking of buying a kit and using it on my wheelbarrow to try it out before doing a whole garage floor. Then I started thinking I could spray it on a utility trailer. How much weight does it add after it's dried? If you're using it on a racecar, I'm guessing not much, but does anyone have anything quantifiable?

gnpenning · Dec 10, 2016

Interesting.

How is it to sweep? General clean-up? Have you had occasion to use floor dry yet?

Roll a creeper across?

Please keep us updated down the road.

Cool car

kaje36 · Dec 13, 2016

gnpenning said:
Interesting.

How is it to sweep? General clean-up? Have you had occasion to use floor dry yet?

Roll a creeper across?

Please keep us updated down the road.

Cool car

So far its working very well, easy to clean, and has been holding up very well, I have even dropped a bunch of heavy stuff on it, and dragged the bucket of my tractor across it!

I have not used any floor dry on it, sll my spills have been small enough to wipe up with a towel, and was easy to wipe up.

gnpenning · Dec 15, 2016

Good to know.

I would sure be interested in a long term report as I'm going to be building again for awhile.

kaje36 · Dec 16, 2016

vavet said:
Just found this about Raptor liner. It looks great.

Thinking of buying a kit and using it on my wheelbarrow to try it out before doing a whole garage floor. Then I started thinking I could spray it on a utility trailer. How much weight does it add after it's dried?

I used the extra from the floor to do my trailer, right over the PT plywood!

The weight isnt bad, This is also road legal, and my state was being a pain about needing carpet, so this was a lot lighter then carpet! I dont have a truck and trailer that can take me to events, but I have many favors I can call in to get me home again if I need to.

vtwinjunkie · Dec 16, 2016

That looks great

B.C.Biker · Dec 16, 2016

Any idea if the bus place has a radiant floor? Wondering if it would insulate or be a non issue. This is very interesting indeed.
Have rolled Monsterliner on the whole outside of my camper van and the plywood floor and bench seats of my tin boat. After 3 years out side still looks like it was done yesterday. Hmmm

NUTTSGT · Dec 18, 2016

Do you do any welding or using cutting torch in there ? If so, how is it holding up to that stuff ?

Armorpoxy · Dec 18, 2016

The tech data sheet for this product says for on concrete the surface must be pre treated with a sealer or primer. It's a bit vague as to which one, so we would suggest testing first if using this on concrete.

kaje36 · Dec 19, 2016

I did not Prep my surface at all, and I found out they didnt prep when they did the MTBA building either. But I do weld, and closest I got was about 12 inch away from the floor with a flux core welder, and had no issues.

XAMfed · Dec 19, 2016

kaje36 said:

Dude, what engine is this?

kaje36 · Dec 19, 2016

XAMfed said:
Dude, what engine is this?

1994 VH45de. 4.5l infinity(Nissan) V8.
it is basically the homologation engine used in the La Mans cars. but only shares basic design in common.
Its an extremely smooth engine (balance a quarter on its side while bouncing off the rev limiter) that make decent power, and was very cheap for me!

2002maniac · Dec 22, 2016

Impressive! Please keep us updated if you have any issues with the coating? How thick does it roll on? Did you do more than one coat?

GLTHFJ60 · Dec 22, 2016

Very cool! I painted my truck from top to bottom with Raptor Liner 5 years ago and it's just been awesome.

Did you clean the cement floor with xylene before painting? Did you scuff the floor at all?

Redraptor · Dec 23, 2016

I've used Raptor liner for several years. Did you buy that in bulk? I can't imagine pouring out quart containers to roll it. I like it for it's easy clean up but don't believe it's stronger than Speedliner that I've used in the past. Nice job though.

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