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Yes, I did discover that.
I’m not sure if I’ll try to replicate the original or keep the t screw with it.
It is a little of an eye sore, but very functional.
Any pics of the 974?
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MayerMR
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So I have many, many thanks to pass along to a fellow GJ member and friend of mine who sent me a CL link for an Emmert vise this morning on my way to work. While I didn't think it was very likely that I would have a chance at this vise, as it turned out, I had communicated with the seller before. We worked out a time and around noon I became the owner of an early through-bench example of an Emmert 6A (3" model) 3-axis vise! Unfortunately, it does have three cracks in it, with one really old, but really quite good repair (see images). Regardless of the faults, I'm pretty darn pleased with it as these little buggers aren't common and I truly never expected to get the chance to buy one, much less actually end up owning one! Really turned my week around!
Old repair - the PO cut a metal plate the same shape as the machined section of the vise main body and then flat riveted it in several places. Pretty stout repair. There are two little cracks in the thin sections under the plate and a small one on the opposite side in the same area.
This model seems to be less-common than the later version with the above-bench swivel base and matches the original patent:
1903 Patent for the Emmert Mfg. Co.
Tickled pink by this little guy
Old repair - the PO cut a metal plate the same shape as the machined section of the vise main body and then flat riveted it in several places. Pretty stout repair. There are two little cracks in the thin sections under the plate and a small one on the opposite side in the same area.
This model seems to be less-common than the later version with the above-bench swivel base and matches the original patent:
1903 Patent for the Emmert Mfg. Co.
Tickled pink by this little guy
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mgmlvks
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Checking on the shop crew reveals the following
Reed 105R
Big Columbian
Wilton
Reed 105R
Big Columbian
Wilton
gman007
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So I have many, many thanks to pass along to a fellow GJ member and friend of mine who sent me a CL link for an Emmert vise this morning on my way to work. While I didn't think it was very likely that I would have a chance at this vise, as it turned out, I had communicated with the seller before. We worked out a time and around noon I became the owner of an early through-bench example of an Emmert 6A (3" model) 3-axis vise! Unfortunately, it does have three cracks in it, with one really old, but really quite good repair (see images). Regardless of the faults, I'm pretty darn pleased with it as these little buggers aren't common and I truly never expected to get the chance to buy one, much less actually end up owning one! Really turned my week around!
Tickled pink by this little guy
Mayer
If I had found one, I would be tickled pink too! Great score
gman007
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Parker 288 1/2, 118lb, 5" jaw plus stand
Did not have the time (1.5 hour drive each way) to get myself so I asked a friend to get it. It is in very good shape, has the pipe jaws and it does have the wrench but it is not in the photos (was removed during transportation for safe keeping). The stand is simple but sturdy and decent.
Did not have the time (1.5 hour drive each way) to get myself so I asked a friend to get it. It is in very good shape, has the pipe jaws and it does have the wrench but it is not in the photos (was removed during transportation for safe keeping). The stand is simple but sturdy and decent.
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Mr. Wonderful
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Parker 288 1/2, 118lb, 5" jaw plus stand for $200 .
Did not have the time (1.5 hour drive each way) to get myself so I asked a friend to get it. It is in very good shape, has the pipe jaws and it does have the wrench but it is not in the photos (was removed during transportation for safe keeping). The stand is simple but sturdy and decent.
It has rather small handle though for good size vise
That's a good friend to make a three hour drive for you! Those big combination parkers are some of the coolest looking vises ever! Nice score and major suckage on that price. That thing would be $400 around here with missing pipe jaws and no stand!
paxtonm1520
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That's exactly what I did, and it worked out great! Thanks for the advice. I'm just getting started on rebuilding things, and I really love it!
gman007
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Thank you Mr. W and Smitty
And as the say in the infomercials and that is not all! You also get a misspelled word with the vise at no additional cost. Whoever did this must be one of my ancestors as it seems not being able to spell runs in the family
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KMScott
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Nice Emmert MayerMR. That is a rare one. Very nice repair too.
Productbob
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Mayer -great little pickup!
gman- that's an awesome looking combo Parker and with a stand too!
gman- that's an awesome looking combo Parker and with a stand too!
trijeff
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Wow, great pickups both Mayer and gman.
So I showed my wife Zoomie's loaded garage and trailer (which I am certain is not even close to all he has) in an effort to say "look, I don't have a vise problem" and the first words out of her mouth were "is that guy married?" Touche, well played.
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So I showed my wife Zoomie's loaded garage and trailer (which I am certain is not even close to all he has) in an effort to say "look, I don't have a vise problem" and the first words out of her mouth were "is that guy married?" Touche, well played.
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gman007
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Mayer -great little pickup!
gman- that's an awesome looking combo Parker and with a stand too!
Bob and TJ
Gents, thank you for your kind words.
TJ and MR. W
IMHO one way to have a vise (or any other big boy toys) collection the size of Zoom's and still not take flak is to have a pole barn preferably on another property some miles from home, where wife has no interest visiting at all
. One of my friends has such a pole barn (inherited from his dad) where he keeps all his toys there with no hassle and fuss
The good news
I just picked this Wilton C2, it has 5” jaws and weighs in at 114 lbs. The vise is in almost new condition with barely a hammer mark on it.
The bad news
I had to drive to Bakersfield to get it. This is the second longest drive drive I’ve ever made for a vise.
The best news
He took $240 for it.
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I just picked this Wilton C2, it has 5” jaws and weighs in at 114 lbs. The vise is in almost new condition with barely a hammer mark on it.
The bad news
I had to drive to Bakersfield to get it. This is the second longest drive drive I’ve ever made for a vise.
The best news
He took $240 for it.
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Smitty
Nice score as usual (looks barely used and very clean) despite the long drive
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I think we need to get you a super fast ViseMobile
davethorik
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Looking good as always, Smitty. There is a C3 listed on my local CL for the low price of $925. Lol.
I did look at a handful of random big cities Craigslist and searched vise. Los Angeles topped the list with 180-ish results. Chicago was 2nd. NYC had 40??? That's a slow day in Akron
Not to change the subject but here is my American Scale 23A with the BLO treatment. Idk what is up with the bluish hue it has, it doesn't look this blue in person (but it is noticeable). This beauty was hiding under 4 layers of paint.
I did look at a handful of random big cities Craigslist and searched vise. Los Angeles topped the list with 180-ish results. Chicago was 2nd. NYC had 40??? That's a slow day in Akron
Not to change the subject but here is my American Scale 23A with the BLO treatment. Idk what is up with the bluish hue it has, it doesn't look this blue in person (but it is noticeable). This beauty was hiding under 4 layers of paint.
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I rent a warehouse 8 miles from home for that very reason!
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trijeff
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A local to me GJ lurker built a 1500sqft warehouse and has over 1500 vises there and has outfitted with all commercial/industrial rated machines to restore them in his retirement.
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Wow. #hero
Also, great pick up Smitty. Using context clues, Bakersfield is far from you. How long was the drive?
Maybe somebody can help me.
I have a prentiss monarch 401, through the bench swivel base.
Question is, it has the plate that bolts to the bench, the base sits on top and the stud passes through with the cast wing nut in the bottom to tighten.
The bottom of the base is smooth, however the base plate has notches presumably for locking positions.
It doesn’t look like the “lock” was ground down off the base.
Also the base has two mounting holes on either side.
Any ideas on how this is supposed to work?
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I have a prentiss monarch 401, through the bench swivel base.
Question is, it has the plate that bolts to the bench, the base sits on top and the stud passes through with the cast wing nut in the bottom to tighten.
The bottom of the base is smooth, however the base plate has notches presumably for locking positions.
It doesn’t look like the “lock” was ground down off the base.
Also the base has two mounting holes on either side.
Any ideas on how this is supposed to work?
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Thanks Vise
Let’s just say if I were to make the drive on Sunday morning without any traffic it would take me two and a half hours to get there. The main reasons I made the journey were price and condition. The vise is like new and It cost about 15% of the original list price.
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Mslund1...First you'd mount the friction plate to the table with the notches up. Then you would drill a hole for the stud. Finally, you'd attach the vise to the top of the friction plate and secure the stud from the bottom with a wing nut and washer. I believe the -2- holes in the base of the vise are just an option for securing it with lag screws, but not used when in the swivel mode.
Smitty, davethorik and Gman007...Very nice combos!
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Mslund1...First you'd mount the friction plate to the table with the notches up. Then you would drill a hole for the stud. Finally, you'd attach the vise to the top of the friction plate and secure the stud from the bottom with a wing nut and washer. I believe the -2- holes in the base of the vise are just an option for securing it with lag screws, but not used when in the swivel mode.
Smitty, davethorik and Gman007...Very nice combos!
Thanks for the info!
It doesn’t appear the notches function though is my main question. There’s nothing on the base of the vise to sit in them to lock in whatever orientation of swivel.
Just the wing nut to hold it secure
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Outlawmws
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F J, I think the holes were originally for "drop in pins" (Close fitting bolts?) so you could easily set it for 0 - 45 - or 90...
meatsis
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That’s a rare vise. Dig deep in those pockets
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As I understand it, the beveled holes were designed for permanently mounted flat-head bolts with the side of the friction plate raised to allow it to be swiveled at any degree. It was a lousy design in my opinion.
But yeah, I've been wrong before.
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Shiftless
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mslund:
I happen to have a Monarch 401 in my collection.
For the swivel lock to work properly, there is a tab on the bottom of the vise body that engages those slots on the base.
Here is a close up of the tab so you can see what I’m talking about. It’s about 3/4 inch long.
Somebody must have ground off that tab so he could simply bolt the vise down to a workbench and not have it wobble.
Mine doesn’t have those 2 screw holes like yours. IMHO, most likely a previous user modification.
The plate has holes to mount to the workbench.
I’m lucky enough to have the original undamaged wingnut for that vise. Usually they are damaged or MIA.
I happen to have a Monarch 401 in my collection.
For the swivel lock to work properly, there is a tab on the bottom of the vise body that engages those slots on the base.
Here is a close up of the tab so you can see what I’m talking about. It’s about 3/4 inch long.
Somebody must have ground off that tab so he could simply bolt the vise down to a workbench and not have it wobble.
Mine doesn’t have those 2 screw holes like yours. IMHO, most likely a previous user modification.
The plate has holes to mount to the workbench.
I’m lucky enough to have the original undamaged wingnut for that vise. Usually they are damaged or MIA.
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Outlawmws
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OK., different vise & plate than I was thinking - yes that one was for mounting the plate. I've seen (and have) others that had through holes, for the pins, and I've seen then without the plates but with the holes in the main flange but with the big central wing nut so you would bore a corresponding hole in the bench...
va.grouseman
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Mslund1, there really should be a raised hump on the bottom of the Static body that fits those notches like a hand and glove.---The ones I have with a base like that have a hump and groove locking system.
Fixed it.---Hump and groove, not notch and groove
Fixed it.---Hump and groove, not notch and groove
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va.grouseman
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Dave, you and Smitty both scored super nice vises this time around.
Shiftless
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va is right.
See my recent post.
See my recent post.
Thanks guys!
My speculations were correct that it was supposed to have a locking tab on the bottom of the static base
I had also wondered about the extra holes in the base. After looking at them closer, they are not symmetrical or even the same size. Definitely added somewhere along the line. Bummer.
It does however have the original wing nut. Small score there.
Any ideas on making the swivel function again? Or it’s best to leave it alone at this point?
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My speculations were correct that it was supposed to have a locking tab on the bottom of the static base
I had also wondered about the extra holes in the base. After looking at them closer, they are not symmetrical or even the same size. Definitely added somewhere along the line. Bummer.
It does however have the original wing nut. Small score there.
Any ideas on making the swivel function again? Or it’s best to leave it alone at this point?
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Productbob
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Smitty another great addition to your collection
Dave 23A looks excellent
Tri - 1500 vises ??? Damn, must be planning on a looong retirement!
Dave 23A looks excellent
Tri - 1500 vises ??? Damn, must be planning on a looong retirement!
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