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Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Yeah, that's high, imo. There was one here in s.e. Michigan the other day for $100. I can't find it now, so it must have sold.



Well your market is saturated with good stuff but I agree it needs too much for its price tag. I am thinking I can sell the stand for $50 but even then, it is still $50 too high


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Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

I agree with the lower appraisal. Motor looks like it could be correct, CM did the blue/black color scheme during those years. Honestly, I find the motor harder to find than the dp.

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Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

I agree with the lower appraisal. Motor looks like it could be correct, CM did the blue/black color scheme during those years. Honestly, I find the motor harder to find than the dp.

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That is what I was wondering if it was a period correct long c motor or if someone repainted it?


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Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Franklee- question on the early 100 models that have the 13.5” drill circle- what size v belt are you putting on those? How many inches? I looked in the catalog but couldn’t find it?
A 41" belt is spec'd for that machine.
 

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Classic 15½" drill presses with cast iron motor mounts and cast iron motor bases call for 45" belts.
Classic 15½" drill presses with pressed steel motor mounts and cradle motor bases call for 44" belts.

Classic 12¼" drill presses with cast iron motor bases call for 37" belts.
Classic 12¼" drill presses with cradle motor bases call for ?" belts. (still researching)

However, -1" to +2" belts will work just fine.



Very helpful! I was thinking there may be some variance based on motor mounts and belt length....

Bearing replacement question- I read your bearing section and it sounds like you reuse or clean and relubricate bearings as opposed to just replacing? On my earlier 100 ( model 103.23640) which is a 13.5, I believe it has the same bearings as a full size 15”? I am spinning the quill by hand and it sounds quiet but I think it would be good to lubricate everything.


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Very helpful! I was thinking there may be some variance based on motor mounts and belt length....

Bearing replacement question- I read your bearing section and it sounds like you reuse or clean and relubricate bearings as opposed to just replacing? On my earlier 100 ( model 103.23640) which is a 13.5, I believe it has the same bearings as a full size 15”? I am spinning the quill by hand and it sounds quiet but I think it would be good to lubricate everything.
Yep. Many times I clean and repack bearings, but not always. When bearings feel good like yours, I'll put a few drops of 3inOne SAE 20 oil on the shields near the inner race and let it seep into the bearing. Motor bearings are almost always cleaned and reused.

Yes, spindle pulley bearings and quill bearings are identical between the 13½" and the 15½" machines.
 

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Yep. Many times I clean and repack bearings, but not always. When bearings feel good like yours, I'll put a few drops of 3inOne SAE 20 oil on the shields near the inner race and let it seep into the bearing. Motor bearings are almost always cleaned and reused.

Yes, spindle pulley bearings and quill bearings are identical between the 13½" and the 15½" machines.



Thanks for answering that question! I was going to ask if you use the 3 in one but you beat me to it!

I really want to go after that Mohawk but it is overpriced and I need to get this post war model going! It has the cool modified handles I have asked about up thread. I have had it for a year on the bench not in use so I need to get it going so I can use it!
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Thanks for answering that question! I was going to ask if you use the 3 in one but you beat me to it!

I really want to go after that Mohawk but it is overpriced and I need to get this post war model going! It has the cool modified handles I have asked about up thread. I have had it for a year on the bench not in use so I need to get it going so I can use it!
That is a nice machine a will clean up beautifully! Those mid-size models are every bit as capable as the larger drill presses.
 

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Picked up this press about a year ago and finally got around to rebuilding it. I don't think it was used much as the bearings and pulleys are in great shape. I decided to replace the motor with a 1/2hp 208v 3 phase unit with a 110V frequency drive. It works great and will drill pretty much anything I want it to. Couple of questions what is the mounting point for on the back side of the table I have seen a few lifts attached there and a mini table? Any other tilting table attachments available? Also I would be happy to sell the old motor if anyone is looking for a vintage one it is a little rough and could probably be brought back to life with contact cleaning and new capacitor. Attached are a bunch of pictures. Happy to answer any questions.
 

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Original motor I would be happy to sell it if anyone is interested in it. Probably needs a good contact cleaning and capacitor. Missing box cover.
 

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Just found this topic!
Picked up this press about a year ago and finally got around to rebuilding it. I don't think it was used much as the bearings and pulleys are in great shape. I decided to replace the motor with a 1/2hp 208v 3 phase unit with a 110V frequency drive. It works great and will drill pretty much anything I want it to. Couple of questions what is the mounting point for on the back side of the table I have seen a few lifts attached there and a mini table? Any other tilting table attachments available? Also I would be happy to sell the old motor if anyone is looking for a vintage one it is a little rough and could probably be brought back to life with contact cleaning and new capacitor. Attached are a bunch of pictures. Happy to answer any questions.
That mounting point is for the small auxiliary table. I don't believe there were any other factory accessories designed for that mounting point. I believe any lift using that would be custom made.

There was a PressMate table lift available in the early '80s, but it used the hole for the key storage on the other side of the table.
http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/222/17152.pdf#page=75

That machine was available in '68, '69 and perhaps '67. There is no catalog for '67.
http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/222/6895.pdf#page=18


Thanks for posting!
 

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I am currently rebuilding an early 100 model and the thrust spring, metal washer, and felt washer came out of the feed handle. Not really sure how theyre supposed to go back in. I tried checking the tech manual and it isnt really making it any clearer. Any help would be much appreciated. Trying to wrap this up so i can start restoring my 101 9” Lathe. I tend to mix up parts between projects so its one at a time for now.
 
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I am currently rebuilding an early 100 model and the thrust spring, metal washer, and felt washer came out of the feed handle. Not really sure how theyre supposed to go back in. I tried checking the tech manual and it isnt really making it any clearer. Any help would be much appreciated. Trying to wrap this up so i can start restoring my 101 9” Lathe. I tend to mix up parts between projects so its one at a time for now.
Welcome!

Check this post:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6347465

What model is your drill press?
 
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I was checking that post a few minutes ago. I assume that the thrust spring goes in the end of the hub followed by the metal washer and the felt pad then insert the feed handle. I was trying to get the handle in without pushing the felt pad out through the hole.
 
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I was checking that post a few minutes ago. I assume that the thrust spring goes in the end of the hub followed by the metal washer and the felt pad then insert the feed handle. I was trying to get the handle in without pushing the felt pad out through the hole.
Correct. The steel disk is not shown in that photo.

If the handle friction is not tight enough, insert another washer behind the leather pad.

Check this post for a simple solution to inserting the handle:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6345019
 
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Frank

This thread is as good a resource as I have seen on the internet for any subject. Well done for organizing it in a usable fashion and keeping it up for as long as you have.

A simple question. After cleaning and inspecting the return springs, pinion shaft and associated parts, what do you lubricate the spring with at reassembly?

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Frank

This thread is as good a resource as I have seen on the internet for any subject. Well done for organizing it in a usable fashion and keeping it up for as long as you have.

A simple question. After cleaning and inspecting the return springs, pinion shaft and associated parts, what do you lubricate the spring with at reassembly?

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Thanks for your comments. It’s really been a group effort with generous participation.

Good question! I add a couple drops of Super Lube oil inside the spring and a thin bead of Super Lube oil along the length of the outside of the spring.
 

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Picked this up today for $50.

I believe it's a Modle 100, 1950?
The SS# is 103.23130

20 minutes of TLC, and it was operational again.
 

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Picked this up today for $50.

I believe it's a Modle 100, 1950?
The SS# is 103.23130

20 minutes of TLC, and it was operational again.
Welcome to the Craftsman Drill Press club! Great first post!

That is a beautiful machine, and with the MSA, you got a hell of a deal! Congrats!

I agree with your 1950 estimate. What is the date code on the motor badge?
 

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Thanks, Frank,

The Stamp date on the Motor is H4 48 - Is that Aug 4, 1948?
MSA? - I'll have to look that up.

Cleaned up all the controls today, nothing a little oil could not fix. Everything works wonderfully.

It also has three pulleys - it was very slow, it cut thru some steel plates I needed to drill holes in.... like it was butter!
 

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Thanks, Frank,

The Stamp date on the Motor is H4 48 - Is that Aug 4, 1948?
MSA? - I'll have to look that up.

Cleaned up all the controls today, nothing a little oil could not fix. Everything works wonderfully.

It also has three pulleys - it was very slow, it cut thru some steel plates I needed to drill holes in.... like it was butter!
Yes, I believe August ‘48 so maybe just a little earlier than first thought.

MSA is the multi-speed attachment, aka, slow-speed pulley or middle pulley. It’s a very desirable option. MSA links in first post with lots of info.
 
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Custom Drill Press Lamp

Custom Drill Press Lamp

12/25/2020


I've always liked my magnetic-base led lamp on my drill press, but it does have it's drawbacks. Recently, there have been a few members post some really nice custom lamp projects, so I decided to give it a go.

I don't weld and I don't care to permanently modify these machines. I had several criteria for my design.
  • it has to be simple
  • it has to be inexpensive
  • it has to be easy to r&r without a trace
  • for the most part, I have to use materials I have on hand
See attached pdf.
 

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Picked this up today for $50.

I believe it's a Modle 100, 1950?
The SS# is 103.23130

20 minutes of TLC, and it was operational again.

Wow what an awesome find mmw68 and for $50 I think that deserves a “you ****”. That thing looks to be in incredible condition and the Multi Slow Speed is much sought after feature. Congrats on your score.
 

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I have a question concerning the msa (slow speed attachment) i got the tech manual from vintage machinery for it and it gives value for a 1725 rpm motor. My dp came with the msa and a 3/4 hp craftsman motor that runs at 3450 rpm. Are my values going to differ greatly?Im currently rebuilding the motor. The start capacitor was shot and i went ahead and changed the bearings. While im rebuilding the motor im using a small champion 1/3hp that runs at 1725 that i stole from my lathe while im cleaning that up.
 
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