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11b30b4’s Columbian D44 M5 and Autocrat 415 refresh

11b30b4

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More than likely, neither of these vises are “vintage” but they are both Made in the USA. Rather than a complete rebuild, this is mostly a refresh of these vises.

First, the Columbian D44 M5 was gifted to me by my sister. It was in good shape, but I decided to clean it up and repaint it.
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The original paint was very durable and withstood paint stripper. I believe it may have been powder coated, anyway, wire wheel on angle grinder took it off. All the parts took a 24-hour bath in simple green then wire wheeled. The spindle slide, anvil, sides of the jaws, slide rests inside the body, and the sides of the removeable jaw inserts got sanded and polished.

I masked and applied metal etching primer then hit the painted parts with Rust oleum hammer dark bronze. Next, I used a silver acrylic paint on the embossed lettering and reassembled the vise. I like how it turned out.
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That completed the D44 M5.

Next, two weeks after I posted questions about the Autocrat on the vise thread, I found one at an estate sale this past Thursday for $45.00 and it was in good shape. There was a bent handle and one flat ground spot on one jaw but otherwise, minimal wear and tear. I believe the green is the original paint as I have seen several Autocrats with the same paint.

I should mention that I became interested in this vise several months ago because it seemed to fill many of the vise uses that I would need as a home hobbyist. In my opinion, the autocrat was made for the home hobbyist, providing many of the features that the a person with a home workshop would need without getting into the weeds of a more stout vise.

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According to Fierljeppen,
“(1977-1997) is the range of catalog listings I found for the Columbian Autocrat Mechanics Vise. The same vise was lastly listed in Wilton's 1998 catalog, but the jaw width was increased by 1/2".”

Apparently, there was a 4” jaw variant (the 414) and the variant I have that has 5” jaws (the 415). As far as I know, there is no real way to specifically date the vise other than the 10-year time span mentioned above.

Some of the observations I made on the vise thread were the following:
Removable jaws that are not keyed into the body.
Standardized swivel base with only one locking lever.
Large defined anvil surface.
Covered spindle screw.
Simplified handle ends that were heated and mushroomed rather than a separate end ball attachment.
Cast permanent pipe jaws
The slide rests inside the main body are more extensive and provide a greater coverage of the slide than many older vises.
Simplified spindle screw nut lock. The bottom center bolt in the swivel base screws into the bottom of the spindle nut and locks it in place.
Use of a retaining ring to hold spindle screw inside dynamic jaw rather than a sleeve with a set screw.

So, with all of these observations, it can be inferred that the vise can not be employed without the spindle base for two reasons. First, the spindle nut is held in place with the spindle base screw that would protrude from the base of the vise if the spindle base was omitted. Second, there is only one hole in the base of the vise providing only one mounting point.

Onward with the refresh. I disassembled the vise and placed all the parts in a simple green bath for 24 hours.

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After that, all the parts were put in a citric acid bath for 24 hours.

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Next, I cleaned all the cast parts with a wire wheel. Then I sanded and polished the sides of the jaws, the face of the spindle base, the anvil, the slide rests inside the body, and the slide.

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Next, I masked all the parts and applied a metal etch primer. Tonight, I plan on attempting to mushroom then ends of a piece of 1144 carbon rolled steel that I plan on using to replace the handle. I am also hoping to paint the main parts tonight.

Thanks for the interest.
 
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Nice. Maybe once a year, I see an Autocrat on ebay. I don't think many of them were sold.
 
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Mthomas1686, thank you.

m151, Its weird, as soon as I started looking for one, I found one on ebay going for $100 plus 30ish for shipping. I declined to pay that much for one and kept looking. Finding vises in the metro Atlanta area is difficult and when I do find them, they are going for 100+. Oddly, I found an Autocrat a few weeks ago on FB marketplace. It was attached to a wooden work bench and the owner wanted the bench and vise gone. They were asking 300 for everything and again I declined. Then I found one going for 75 in South Carolina on CL, that was too far to drive for that vise.

All three of these autocrats were green and I have not seen a different color unless the owner repainted, so I assume they only came in green.

Anyway, I found this one while looking through pictures of upcoming estate sales and made it a point to get there early to hopefully snag it. $45 for this vise is a fair price in my opinion.

Ok, I cut the handle off the spindle and ordered a 12” piece of ½” 1144 Carbon Steel Rod. This is the same steel I used for the Reed vise handle replacement and I feel it is perfect for this purpose.

I sanded and polished the rod on the lathe, then placed it in the vise and heated one end. The plan here was to heat it red hot then mushroom the end with a hammer. The rod did mushroom, but I was unable to get it as hot as I wanted to make it more malleable. The only torch I own is a MAP gas/ propane brazing torch and the Map will get the steel red but only just.

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Not being happy with this result and realizing that the jaws on the vise were chewing up the polished rod when I hammered on it, I decided to go a different route.

Plan B is to take a pice of the 5/8” 1144 steel rod I have left over from the Reed handle and drill out the center to ½” then turn the ends with a radius tool. This hopefully, will reproduce the look of the original ends of the handle. I plan on sliding these ends on the handle then welding the outer end of each ball. Clean everything up and I hope to have a nice-looking handle.

I have already drilled out the rod and I am waiting on the radius tool to arrive Friday. I needed a reason to buy a radius tool anyway.

I cleaned up the spindle with the wire wheel then placed it in the lathe and sanded and polished the end. The face of the spindle is a bit chewed up so I may decide to turn it and clean it up, but I am still learning how to operate my lathe. So, this may or may not get done.

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I have finished painting the main parts. I decided to go with a Krylon satin Italian Olive Green. It is raining here in GA so it will be later in the week before I remove the masking tape and reassembly the vise.

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I still need to clean up the other parts with the wire wheel and I plan on polishing the sides of the jaw inserts. I have the spindle nut and swivel lock nut bathing in a motor oil bath for the time.

And that is where I am at this time.

Thanks for the interest.
 
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11b30b4

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Update,

I decided to address the face of the spindle screw. I placed it in the lathe and re-faced the end.

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Next, I cut the two endpieces for the handle. As I said before, I made these from left over 1144 5/8” stock. I drilled out the center then beveled the outer edges at 30 degrees. I had planned on rounding the outer edge; however, I failed to realize that the radius tool will require some sort of elevation to be useful. So, I order 123 blocks, but they have an extended delivery. At this point I decided to roll with a beveled edge.

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Placing the machined ends on the handle rod, I welded them in place.

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Next, I placed the handle in the lathe and cleaned up the ends.

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And here is the original handle and the new handle.

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With the handle completed, it was time to lube and assemble the vise.

I am very pleased with this color choice.

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And this completes the Autocrat refresh.
Thanks for the interest.
 
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