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The Mews Garage, England

felixgogo

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Hi everyone!

I have called my thread here after my house, which, like others in the UK has a very small garage. However, inspired by the wonderful garages on this site, I have decided to show you my humble attempts to improve it.

Mews cottages and houses are the small buildings built to the rear of town houses, built to stable horses and carriages. Often these had living quarters above and were often built facing a small courtyard.

As we moved away from horses and carriages, and towards the motor car, these mews cottages became ideal places to house the family motor car. In fact in London these mews houses are now more valuable and sought after as they are often the only houses with parking.

I have always desired a mews house, i.e. one with garaging incorporated into the building, and one where you can walk into the garage from the house, but buildings like this are rare in the country.

Recently, however, I found a ruinous cottage with a garage and workshop included, and although I was advised otherwise, I acquired it.

Here's the garage as it was on my first viewing of the property.

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Notice how there is an uncompleted wall on the right separating the garage from the workshop. First job was to remove this and open up the space.

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The condition of the wiring was terrible - all renewed at some point, but uncontained and hanging, and in need of tidying up. Notice the old block flooring, which was part of the original flooring, this building was originally part of a public house and this part of the building was where barrels were stored.

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Here we can see the removed wall and looking towards the carriage doors. The washer and tumble dryer needed to be housed in the garage, not ideal, but hey - it's a cottage so the rooms are tiny!

In the workshop end of the garage, the floor was filled to bring it up to the same level as the garage, and open wire shelving installed for all my tools, car parts and hobby stuff. After viewing other garages on this site, I would go for closed storage here, as it would make things much tidier. I guess I can close the shelving in with doors at some point.

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As I want to have this space usuable for many different activities, I will be planning to have all floor mounted stuff on wheels, and get and much stuff up on the wall as possible.
 
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A Slight Set Back

Whilst getting the ceiling repaired - it was full off holes, gaps and areas missing....

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We discovered.......

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Active Woodworm!!!

Arrrggghh!!!

The entire ceiling had to be pulled down, all the woodwork, beams and areas treated, and a new ceiling put up.

I took the oppotunity to improve the ceiling, add insulation, and put up a fireblock ceiling instead of repairing the old plasterlath. So even though this delay things, the ceiling is now much better.

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Further Work

Then all the items were pushed to the centre of the garage, and the walls treated.

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And although I would have liked to plaster the walls, the loss of space (when you have so little) meant that I decided to paint the brick walls. This was another tip picked up from here, and oh boy - did it make a difference!!

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And there it is so far, next job is to replace the sockets with metal clad ones, I don't like the plastic ones in there - too easy to break, and install tube lighting.

Again after reading this forum the amount of light was reconsidered, and I purchased 5 tubes. However once home, I realised this was still not enough, so a quick trip back to the store, and a sixth tube light was acquired.

The floor is still a little uneven, and being an old property (1850 ish...) I decided to splash out on a interlocking tile solution. After ALOT of online research, I found an excellent company in the UK, called Eco-Tile. Their product was keenly priced, but they also had a 'bargain bin' where they sell overstock. Although I would have preferred a British Racing Green coloured floor, I was able to save over 45% by choosing a more common colour - so light grey it is.

The car will just have to stand on carpet offcuts to prevent staining.

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The flooring arrived very promptly, but external work to the house has delayed the fitting of this so far.
 
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Just so you can see the very small sizes we have to work with this side of the pond - here's a plan of the space.

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Tons of potential! what does the rest of the property look like? I'm subscribing and looking forward to your progress.
 
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Thanks James - I'll post some pictures of the outside later - it's a bit of a mess at the moment!!!

OK, moving on, the electrics are now much improved:

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Replaced the old plastic sockets with something more correct in the garage environment, and tidied up the cable containment, with trunking and conduit.

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I have to apologise for the mess, if only I had been able to do all this and keep all my stuff elsewhere whilst doing it - And also not at the same time as the builders are working on the exterior!! I guess the best time is always now...

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The builders promise me this will all be gone in a few days...

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And finally a view down the workshop end of the garage, with many boxes from the move still not unpacked. Shows the 5 single tube light fittings, with a decent amount of light now - I can finally see! The sixth fitting is above the carriage doors - I'll get a picture of that.


Next steps
Tidy and clear up after building work.
Build soffet cupboards.
Enclose storage above toilet.
Build doors to cover wall shelving.
Fit floor tiles.
Fit 'z' bracing to carriage doors, insulate and fit inner skin of ply.
 
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Thank you for posting, Felix. It is always interesting to see projects such as yours. And, yes, please post pictures of the outside and, if possible, the neighborhood.

The design of our garage here in the Far East was in part influenced by mews. The garage doors open into an alley-like driveway.

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Bchee - The garage is in England - I am working in Hong Kong, so some of the work is done by me when I'm home, and some by various trades on my behalf.

Project management from a distance like this can be interesting!

Abstamaria - No problem - my pleasure - and yes I have always loved mews garages. I believe of the best traditional garage salesrooms were in mews type properties in London, such as the Bentley and Rolls Royce traders.

There is an excellent book on mews properties - called 'Mews Style' which outlines the varied types of property like this - often with lovely custom carriage doors with huge custom hinge castings - quite fanastic.
 
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Mews

Lotus started out in a "lock-up" in London, which I associate with mews, too. A friend's family, with strong UK bonds, bullt a multi-story apartment building before the last World War, with mews like structures on the side. My friend kept a Westfield Eleven and a Lola T70 replica there. Very evocative of England.

You have to keep a proper '60s British sports car in your garage (Lotus preferably)! :)

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Felix, your mews progress is a wonderful read. And, it brings back memories of my days in a somewhat similar situation. I had a very tidy little shop in Lancaster Mews, quite the same as your own, although a bit larger. Living quarters were upstairs. At the time, I had a Lotus 20/22 Formula Jr. and I was surrounded by others who were aflicted by the same insanity. Your thread is a trip back in time. Your garage/shop has character of a type that may not be understood by many. It's wonderful in every way with great potential. Please, do keep us updated with words and photos.
Cheery-Bye!!
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Bchee - The garage is in England - I am working in Hong Kong, so some of the work is done by me when I'm home, and some by various trades on my behalf.

Project management from a distance like this can be interesting!

I feel your pain mate. I too have to work away, five weeks on, five off, so I try to keep an eye on things from afar, via the wife. As smart as she is, she doesn't fully understand the mechanics of building and construction so I have to grill her over the phone and pore over photographs to ensure our design is being followed closely enough.

It is fun though, and I am looking forward to getting home in a couple of weeks and seeing half a house built where there was nothing but flat dirt three weeks ago. :thumbup:
 
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Andres - excellent - top marks!!! I notice your wonderful Stratos in your thread - breathtaking. I did toy with the idea of one some years ago, and even purchased an old Lancia Beta Coupe - and then scrapped this for the log-book, engine, suspension and all the parts to make a Hawk Stratos replica. All this is sitting in a friends barn - and is probably scrap by now. Perhaps I'll visit this idea again sometime. But your genuine item would cast a shadow over any replica, however good!

Bill - thank you for your kind words - I admit the mews garage is something I have always aspired to, and when this property came up - I could see the potential straight away. There is always an option to open up the workshop side of the garage and make the garage a true double, albeit with twin single doors. When I first got the house I was sure I would convert to a double, but with a single double width door. However, further thought has made me realise the mews would have single sets of doors, never a double. So now, with the recession and all, I think I will keep it as-is, and perhaps build a car-port, or oak open sided garage outside for the daily driver.

Morrisman - Although I have travelled all over Asia - I have not made it to the Philipines yet - your garage and house build is superb, and it must be exciting to plan and plan something from scratch, to your own design. I will follow your build with great interest.
 
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Stratos and Sevens

The Hawk replicas are very good, Felix. They say that a good way of telling a Hawk replica from an original Stratos is to look at the panel gaps. The wide, uneven, amateurish gaps will be on the original item!

I am a Lotus man, basically, and look forward to seeing your Seven as the Mews Garage develops. Surprisingly, in the 60s, we had "The Prisoner" and "The Avengers" on local TV.

There was a Lotus Seven (with a Ford OHV motor, I recall) that raced at the Subic circuit North of Manila in about 1995. It was very quick and outpaced the field, which included a very fast BMW 2002. The Seven just didn't slow down for the corners. The car I am told remains in HK, but in storage. It was (and may still be) owned by a Cathay Pacific pilot.

Regards,

Andres
 
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I was fortunate enough to have a passenger ride in a seven by an upcoming racing driver at Bedford Circuit some years ago, and I quickly realised that in the right hands a 7 did not need to slow down for the corners! Having said that, my own skills fall considerably short of that.

Of course, as some 7s are home built, there can be a huge variance in the build quality, but I hope the De Dion rear axle arrangement in my own car stays where it should!

Garage progress is a on hold at the moment whilst the exterior work moves towards final completion, but I hope for further updates soon.

Thanks everyone for showing an interest in my humble garage!
 
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The Mews Garage - Flooring

Another Red Letter Day!

The floor goes in, sorry no 'in progress' pics, it went down in around 5 hours, with a breathable sheet underneath to minimise the 'rattle' as you walk over them.

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To prevent water and dirt blowing under the door, a rubber seal was stuck across the threshold.

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We still need some cutting in around the back door, and two extra 'ramp' pieces to complete the main door. (We ran out!)

Then I am thinking about doors to cover up the shelving as this will always look messy. Then all the items in the transport boxes need sorting, filing or disposing of.
 
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The occupants move in...

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Apologises for not posting recently, but although nothing much seems to have changed, numerous trips to the tip, tidying out of every single tool chest, box and bag I possess have allowed the true occupants of the Mews Garage to move in!

This is the garage in its 'Winter' configuration, the Seven mounted on skates and pushed into the workshop area, daily driver parked in the garage space.

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Glad I decided to minimise the amount of fixed storage.

Still need to:

Build doors for storage, fix up main carriage doors.

I am now thinking about soffet storage along the back wall now I have discovered a source of real wood wall cabinets in a 560mm high design.

I used the garage is anger recently, fixing a starting issue on the Seven, fitting aux power sockets to both cars, and additional lighting on the Seven.

It's a grand place to work, the Eco-tile floor is worth every penny, making trips out to the garage in your bare feet a pleasure. A quick vacuum up after working and it's all tidy again. Totally recommended!
 
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This is my favorite shot of the garage, with the Seven tucked up for the winter, all the tools sorted, and in labelled boxes, I can find 'almost' anything in there now!
 
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Great job, very cool space. I would love to see more overview pics of the cottage, so I can get a better feel for how it is all situated.
 
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I have resisted posting pictures of the outside, as the cottage was a real mess, 1970's mismatching windows, render damp and falling off, roof tiles broken, damp courses missing or damaged, missing airbricks, guttering broken or missing, the list goes on.

After 18 months of work, it has had the following (as well as the garage work already listed)

-New roof work
-New barge boards and guttering
-Bathroom drainage totally rerun, and moved
-External insulation (solid walls)
-All render hacked off and replaced
-Dampcourse inserted in the end gable where there was none
-Lintels inserted over doors where missing (!)
-New 'Equal Sightline' Cottage windows through-out
-Numerous missing or damaged bricks hacked out and replaced
-New render topcoat and colour

Before:

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Coho911

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I am ridiculously envious of your Lotus 7 / Caterham ! O M G I want one.

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Grizz1963

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What a cool garage.

Thanks for sharing, loved the progress shots.

Lovely toys, but alas, I will never fit my lard *** into a 7

Did I miss where in the UK you were ?
 
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felixgogo

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Coho911 - Then go get one - the Caterham 7 is the best bang for buck - no exceptions. Mine cost less than a family hatchback. Just do it!! ;-)

Grizz - Thanks for the kind words - I have also followed your thread with great interest - we need to stick together being on the same side of the pond! The garage is in the Midlands.

Andy - Yep - a Caterham Seven, turnkey reliability and the Lotus drive - who could ask for more? I love it, and had a great few days driving her in the best weather ever in the UK around July. Drove down to Silverstone for the Classic event there - and was knocked back by the range and quality of the cars there.

On an aside Andy, I bumped into an old friend whilst back in the UK, we used to rally together in the days when Targa timing was allowed for car road rallies, and we migrated into a little stage rallying too. Short story is he recently purchased a genuine Stratos, exact spec as yours, red with the gold wheels, road trim, and the cord trim. I believe he travelled to Europe to find it. I didn't get to see it on my trip, but he promised me a go next time I am home. We used to chat about the Stratos all the time, so funny he managed to make his dream come true!
 

Mark H

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Nice job on both the house and garage.We're finaly seeing light at the end of the tunnel with regard to our house rennovation.Been at it for about 8 years!:shocking:That's down to the fact that I've been doing much of the work myself.Never again!
Looks like a good usable space in the garage,particularly as you've been clever with your use of storage.You can't beat older buildings for character either.
Keep it up!
Mark.
 
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felixgogo

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Mark, your thanks are welcome, I love your 'estate' and the myriad possibilities you have too. My thumbs were itching looking at your cottage, and I am very glad you are turning it into a workshop or garage!

Your post reminds me to mention that deciding which jobs to do yourself, and which to farm out to experts is key to getting a job like this done.

Although I am quite 'handy' I draw the line at cement mixing, and tiling. But working abroad means I have had to get more jobs done by contractors that I would probably tackle myself if the situation were different.

However, it being an older property there are still plenty of jobs for me to do.

The one thing I am still deciding is whether to:

A - Have a single carport on the far side of the yard for the daily driver
B - Have a double timber garage for the daily driver, but this runs the risk of making the yard very tight for getting into the existing garage
C - Build a double garage with loft and workshop running the entire depth of the yard, and turn the existing garage into a new kitchen, and turn existing kitchen into a study. (Very expensive and probably risks planning issues)
D - Convert existing 'L' shaped garage into a true twin with another garage door alongside the existing one. Means relocating the toilet, the boiler, and loads of mess again.
E - Do nothing for the time being!!
 
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