My new 28x38x10 with Full Dormered Loft

dave67fd · May 20, 2011

My 2010 built 28x38x10 with Full Dormered Loft

Here's my new build i started last July (2010).

Area was wooded and hilly. Cleared and graded with a big piece of ledge that was a pain to remove. We kept the big piece of granite on the left in the third pic that was pulled out with many others. Kind of funny watching the big John Deere struggling to move it around.

Foundation has 4' frost walls, floor is 5" thick with controlled joints, vapor barrier and fiberglass added for strength.

dave67fd · May 22, 2011

I didn't get too many shots inbetween construction as she went up pretty quick.

johnny1999 · May 22, 2011

What is your plans for access to the upper level? Im building a similar building.

dave67fd · May 23, 2011

Access to the upper level is a two tier stairway.

jsandlin0803 · May 24, 2011

Looks great! I am planning a similar garage. Do you have any plans you could pass along?

dave67fd · May 24, 2011

jsandlin0803,

Thanks, unfortunately i don't. The original design was kind of changed a bit at the last minuite. The full dormers were added as well as the decision to go with I joists for the floor.

I also added and upgraded the additional windows. The transums above the garage doors as well as the doubles on one side and the 3 tier in the front. The lower windows are at 6' for added security/privacy.

2X6 Construction, R19 Insulation for the walls and R30 in the floor. The rim I joists were filled with foil foam board and sealed with spay foam.

knedgr · May 24, 2011

very nice!!!! Can't wait to see you outfit the interior.

johnny1999 · May 24, 2011

Thats very nice. What are the plans for the inside finish?

Bib Overalls · May 24, 2011

Nice. Surprised you insulated the floor. Will the upper level be outside the heating envelope?

theroyz71 · May 24, 2011

Beautiful Garage.

Mikej1 · May 25, 2011

So nice, you're living my dream...

jsandlin0803 · May 25, 2011

Mind sharing your rough cost on this build for materials only?

dave67fd · May 25, 2011

Thats very nice. What are the plans for the inside finish?

Thanks for the kind words all.
Half the garage area (left side) will be the "clean" side per say and will be plaster and not sheet rock (Here in New England it's cheaper) the right side, or dirty side will be OSB.

There will be no solid seperation between each side. The floor will be epoxied, heat will be 75K BTU Mr. Heater. Compressor will be in vented, waterproof shed mounted on slab outside. Inside on adjacent wall has switched 240V with indicator for power. Airline will be 3/4" black iron pipe plumbed around the shop. A lift may be an added item in the future.

The upper floor will be open concept with tounge and grove pineboard. Cathedral ceilings with a post and beam theme. Haven't fully decided on how i want to implement. The upper floors intent will have a small area partitioned for my Amateur Radio "shack". The remaining area will be the Man cave with hardwood floors. Primary heat will be wood with propane as likely secondary.

Nice. Surprised you insulated the floor. Will the upper level be outside the heating envelope?

In essence yes. The lower garage level will be the primary usage area especially during the winter so i wanted to keep the garage area tight. The insulation in the floors is the Owens corning comfort touch so there is no vapor barrier. Ceiling will also be plastered.

Mind sharing your rough cost on this build for materials only?

I would have to go back and do the math and deduct the labor. The windows were a big cost addition. The garage is a bit bigger than my house and also has more windows.

Bevis · May 26, 2011

any access to area under stairs for storage ?

Scoutman · May 26, 2011

Very nice build. I like the fully kicked out dormers that really make some good useable space upstairs.

I too was wondering what was going to happen under the stairs.

thrifty bill · May 26, 2011

Lots of great ideas here! I plan to build a 30 by 40 workshop with attic. Doors will be in the long wall, due to my lot layout. Subscribing to keep track of your progress!

Met with my first builder yesterday, so it's starting...

dave67fd · May 26, 2011

My builder boxed in the stairs. I installed an outlet and above light fixture inside the boxed area which is switched on the outside wall. There will be a door installed for access. I had originaly contemplated having the compressor here but have thrown around a couple of ideas from a small parts paint spray booth with venting to various types of storage. I temporarily have some items stored under the first tier stairway.

What ideas can you guys come up with?

Call me the Breeze · May 26, 2011

Very nice looking place you have there! I like it very much!

mdbeck1 · May 26, 2011

Too many to write down. Look at the index on post three of this link. Shopnut did a LOT of good stuff. ..and the stairs ain't bad either.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3148

dave67fd · Jun 1, 2011

Very nice looking place you have there! I like it very much!

Thanks Call me the Breeze, Love the fairlane, Looks like a 66, my eyes are bad,lol. I will post a pic of my 67 conv. for you, ill send later as the pics are on my desktop.

Anyway,
Here's cutting up the rest of the 16" batts for the rim joist and one of the finished ceiling.

dave67fd · Jun 1, 2011

Picked up my new compressor (Just temporary hook-up shown) as well my sandblaster from Eastwood.
And added light timer for the outside lighting.

dave67fd · Jun 1, 2011

Call me the Breeze,
Here's my pic of my 67. The Garage is actually now in the background. Older pic of the car.

dave67fd · Jun 14, 2011

Been awhile since i posted last. Been pretty busy at work.

Had a local guy look at plastering the ceilings and half the shop. Waiting for his estimate. I will be hanging OSB on the other half. Should be picking the OSB up this weekend. Hopefully have more pics when i get started.

back2class · Jun 15, 2011

Amazing! First off I love it. Second is how uncanny it is that you built pretty much the same exact garage I plan to buid later this summer. Even the color is identical. Any things you would have done done differently? Also, do you have the size on the floor I-Beams? I am on a tight budget so, my plan calls for minimal and basic windows and doors, but it is nice to know how much nicer it could look should I choose to upgrade. Any plans lying around you can part with?

Thanks

Tony_SS · Jun 15, 2011

Very nice! I miss my detached in a big way!

dave67fd · Jun 20, 2011

back2class,
The color is just the pre-primered T-111. It will be painted the same gray color of my house. The I-joists are i believe 16" and mounted 16" on center. I believe it cost me about an additional $2500 opposed to a main joist and lally columns. At this point i don't think there is anything i would change in the overall structure.

There maybe things i will want to change after everything is done but it turned into more than what i had initialy had in mind or dreamed of to begin with so im happy.

Yeah, the detached of course has it's advantages and disadvantages. Would be nice to have running water.

dave67fd · Jun 26, 2011

Picked up some OSB on Wednesday and got a few sheets hung today.

Took a few shots of my home made benches. This one will have a 1/8" sheet of aluminum on it. The smaller one will hold the grinder and whatever else. I guess just the **** thats on it for now.

mjbdesigns · Jun 27, 2011

Very Nice, I wondered why you chose 28 x 38 in stead of say 30 x 40 ?
Is there any such thing as a standard size or when you build an outbuilding does it really matter? Again very nice project...

kengoff · Jun 27, 2011

Very nice build, thanks for sharing.

ansehnlich1 · Jun 28, 2011

Hey Dave, what roof pitch do you have on this fine garage?

Brad

Call me the Breeze · Jun 28, 2011

dave67fd said:
Call me the Breeze,
Here's my pic of my 67. The Garage is actually now in the background. Older pic of the car.

Nice convertable! I like the old mag wheels too! Looks like it is pretty solid

By the way, your place is really turning out awesome! Congratulations. It is definately something to be proud of!

dave67fd · Jun 28, 2011

mjbdesigns,
Well it's kind of funny in a way on the size it wound up.

I started of by measuring out the lot before clearing and came up with 26 X 36. I kind of choose this size based on my house size so i could more visually compare it. Once the land was cleared it came about i had enough width room to go with a 28 X 36. I had more depth as well but for some reason wanted to keep the building somewhat within my original plan. I had an idependent company clear the land and pour the foundation and another contractor to build the structure.
Once my builder started, he asked me if i was aware that the foundation was measured at 28 X 38. Of course i said no and immediately called the foundation guy asking him what was up with the "38" dimension. He said thats what you wanted, i said the number 38 was never mentioned. Anyway thats how i got the size and increased my build cost a bit. I think on width it gets a bit more complicated but not shure. I guess if you have the pocket book you can build whatever you want/need.

Pic showing the room behind the garage where i will be probably doing most of the sand blasting on larger items. There will be a pneumatic line exiting the rear of the garage.

Call me the Breeze,
Thanks. Your 66 is pretty sweet as well. The wheels are old aluminum ET's. Here is a newer pic inside the garage.

Brad, If i had to guess about 5:12 on the main dormers and probably about 12:12 on the pre and fore roof trusses.

back2class · Jul 8, 2011

looking good. If you can take the measurment from floor of 2nd floor to the base of the ridge beam those of us dying to know the roof slope can figure it out from there.

dave67fd · Jul 9, 2011

back2class,
I'll take measurements and let you know.

Anyway,Got a couple of small items out of the way. Mounted brackets for my Mr. Heater. Used some 1/4" thick 6061 aluminum from junk stock i had lying around at work and lagged them to the I joists. Also started taking my lights down to get ready for the ceiling and left and rear walls to get plastered starting Monday.

Installed 1/2" PVC conduit from the rear of my compressors power/switch/indicator out the side wall which will enter the shed

hpw · Jul 10, 2011

dave67fd said:
back2class,

I will have to find it but cutting, notching of the bottom of an I-joist is a big no no. There are strict guide lines on making cuts in I-joist.
To late now but may help someone else in the future.

found it.....page 9 on this link
http://www.ilevel.com/literature/TJ-4000.pdf

hpw · Jul 10, 2011

forgot to add.....beautiful garage :thumbup:

930dreamer · Jul 10, 2011

Very nice build

Have you used the Eastwood sand blaster yet?

back2class · Jul 10, 2011

Definately SCREW in some runners to the sides of those 2x I beams to strengthen up the area you notched. As another member noted that is a big "no-no" Only take a moment to do that, but best to get them back to full strength. But in all honesty, I think it will be fine as is becuause you di not go too far, but why take a chance.

hpw · Jul 10, 2011

back2class said:
Definately SCREW in some runners to the sides of those 2x I beams to strengthen up the area you notched. As another member noted that is a big "no-no" Only take a moment to do that, but best to get them back to full strength. But in all honesty, I think it will be fine as is becuause you di not go too far, but why take a chance.

agree, don't use drywall screws and use construction adhesive between the members.

rinker1 · Jul 10, 2011

Dave, Great build, it kinda reminds me of my build! Keep new pics coming.

My new 28x38x10 with Full Dormered Loft

Well-known member

Attachments

Well-known member

Attachments

Member

Well-known member

Attachments

New member

Well-known member

Attachments

Active member

Member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Active member

New member

Well-known member

Attachments

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Attachments

Well-known member

Attachments

Well-known member

Attachments

Well-known member

Well-known member

New member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Attachments

Active member

Well-known member

Member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Attachments

Well-known member

Well-known member

Attachments

Well-known member

Well-known member

Super Moderator

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member