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I purchased some of Harry Epstein's new USA-made tape measures. I’m just a garage DIY’er, but I use tape measures quite a few times per week. I picked up the 12’ version for $8.15 + tax. There's also a 25' version for $11.45.


Packaging and close-up pics
The packaging proudly exclaims that this tape measure is made in the USA. This tape is made by the company US Tape.
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Comparison to Craftsman tape measure
I decided to compare the HE tape to another mid-priced tape measure.

My most-used tape measure is my 12’ Craftsman. I picked this up about a year ago when Sears was closing them out. Craftsman no longer offers tape measures. The Craftsman tape is made in the Dominican Republic.

Both tape measures are a similar size. The HE tape has a plastic body with a chrome-type plating. The Craftsman has a plastic body with rubber bumpers to help absorb shock if the tape is dropped (this is a nice feature, IMO.)

The belt clip on the Craftsman is formed from slightly thicker metal, but the HE tape seems to have a tighter grip when clipped onto your belt or pants. The HE tape has a hole in the clip and a corresponding bump that fits into the hole. The HE tape seems to take more force to pull off than the Craftsman tape.

The HE tape weighs 6.25 oz. The Craftsman tape is 4.35 oz.

The locking mechanisms on both tapes are very similar. They both hold the blade with a similar amount of force.
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Blade comparison
Both blades have a tip that is held in place by three rivets.

The tape on the Craftsman is ½” wide. The HE tape is ¾” wide. There are pros and cons to both tapes. The thinner Craftsman allows for a smaller and lighter tape measure. However, the larger tape on the HE means it has big numbers that are easier to read.
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Overall
In my opinion, the HE tape seems like a value at $8.15. You can find imported tapes cheaper, but the HE tape still seems like a quality tape at a good price.

I would also add that I’ve always had good experiences buying from Harry Epstein. I’ve ordered from them online and bought from them in person. My transactions have always gone well.

I’m happy to pay a few dollars more for this tape to support a business that focuses on USA-made tools and a company that still makes tape measures in the US.
 
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One thing to note about blade width is that wider blades typically have longer "free-hang" length before the blade folds over. My US-made Starret fractional and metric tapes are nice, but due to the narrow blade length, aren't useful for most carpentry or construction applications - although it works fine in the lab for the purpose I bought it for. I would imagine that US Tape has a pretty good free-hang length due to the tape width.
 

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Interesting... I did not know there were any manufacturers of tape measures left in the USA.
 

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Looks like a great functioning measure and I'll be happy to buy one, but they need to replace their graphic and industrial designers. Straight outta 1985.
 

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This is the best tape measure review I've ever seen :thumbup:

Thanks for the info, I will definitely be picking up a HE next week
 

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I'll be happy to buy one, but they need to replace their graphic and industrial designers. Straight outta 1985.

I like it when the look remains consistent despite the passage of time. There's something to be said for enduring designs. Like the Starrett logo. It'd be a pity if they tried to "modernize" it.

brokewrenchls1 said:
due to the narrow blade length, aren't useful for most carpentry or construction applications - although it works fine in the lab for the purpose I bought it for.

Speaking of Starrett i the co. does offer measures and other tools designed for the construction trade, including wider and more stout tape measures, plumbs, and so forth. They've got a catalog specifically for these types of tools. They may send one or you can find it on the their website.
 

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Looks like a great functioning measure and I'll be happy to buy one, but they need to replace their graphic and industrial designers. Straight outta 1985.

I also agree. If you are going to emulate an era, make it the 1940's! I know it's nitpicking, but this reminded me of a cheapie old '80's Craftsman (yes, USA) at first glance.

Made in USA shouldn't be the only reason you buy it.

Good review!
 

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Very nice review.
For $9ish dollars it really sounds like a great investment. I love that the HE tape measure is squared. It just looks like a beefy, quality, no-frills-git-r-done tape measure.
 
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Interesting... I did not know there were any manufacturers of tape measures left in the USA.

U.S. Tape may be the only one.

Jori at HE said he had to ask them multiple times if it was 100% USA made, because it was hard for him to believe it. But it is in fact 100% made in the USA.
 

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Very nice. Ok, so here's proof that you can sell an $8 USA made tape measure if you get giant corporations like Stanley out of the process- just like the Weathertech floor mat guy says in his ads. It has nothing to do with unions, the EPA, regulations, etc; it has everything to do with maximizing profits- or greed, depending on your views.

I'll buy one on my next order from HE; I know I paid more for my last third world 12' Stanley.
 

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I'm seriously thinking about machining some nice anodized billet aluminum cases for these. I LOVE the fact that it's USA made... but it sure is one ugly duckling. I guess as long as it does its job, right?
 

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'Hencho en USA' :spit:

Don't see that one very often.

-Jeff

I thought proper Spanish was "Hecho en E.U.A." (Estados Unidos Americano)

Everything I've bought from Harry Epstein's has been extremely satisfactory. I've got a bunch of those US Tape private label measures, but not with Epstein's name on them. It's a quality tool at a very competitive price. My father's company has stocked them with their company name for contractors for years.
 

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but they need to replace their graphic and industrial designers. Straight outta 1985.

be absolutely sure do NOT hire the same one Snap On uses, which thinks "Made in USA" would hurt the sales.
 
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I was at Sears the other day and saw a Stanley Fat Max tape measure that was made in USA. So they are still being made in the USA...
 

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Stanley/Bostitch/Dewalt tape measures range from Made in USA to USA Assembled to fully imported, mostly from Thailand.
 
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Very nice. Ok, so here's proof that you can sell an $8 USA made tape measure if you get giant corporations like Stanley out of the process- just like the Weathertech floor mat guy says in his ads. It has nothing to do with unions, the EPA, regulations, etc; it has everything to do with maximizing profits- or greed, depending on your views.

Your right, they sell them for as much as possible and have them made for as little as possible. If you can make a tape measure for $8 in the USA then the WalMarts of the world will have one made in BFE and sell it for $7.50. Why? Because there is always someone who will buy the cheapest one. It could be half the quality but 10% less and many will buy it. Look at Quickset locks. They are the cheapest on the shelf but only by a couple dollars. For a couple bucks more you can have a Schlage. Why anyone would buy the Quickset is beyond my comprehension.

Disclaimer: Quickset probably makes some better quality stuff but I am talking the bottom of the line ****.

BTW, thanks for the review. I thought I was stuck with Assembled in USA w/ global components.
 

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For a couple bucks more you can have a Schlage. Why anyone would buy the Quickset is beyond my comprehension.
I thought that too until I actually compared a couple back to back. The Kwikset was quicker and easier to install, for sure, than the Schlage. I guess true to the name though I had never thought of that.

Since the people buying the locks and installing them are usually not the people using them everyday...
 

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US Tape Co. has the thinnest, weakest blades of any of the recognized brands IMO...

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I picked this one up to check out the merits of the centerpoint scale. The center finding scale was neat, the overall product was not.

Lasted maybe six weeks.

I have two Lufkin tapes that are probably 40 years old. The blades are well worn and a little floppy, but unbroken. And I use them all the time!

I've also got/had Craftsman, Stanley, Fatmax, and most recently Snap On. I have broken Craftsman blades before, but they took ALOT more abuse before they gave in. And at least I could get a new insert for those. The US Tape was cracking around the rivet within a couple weeks of new.
 

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I thought that too until I actually compared a couple back to back. The Kwikset was quicker and easier to install, for sure, than the Schlage. I guess true to the name though I had never thought of that.

Since the people buying the locks and installing them are usually not the people using them everyday...

I never really noticed a difference in the install. My experience has been that after about two years of service they start giving you trouble. I have never replaced a Schlage that I installed. Sorry for the hijack.
 
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I was at Sears the other day and saw a Stanley Fat Max tape measure that was made in USA. So they are still being made in the USA...

I would guess the one you saw was "made in the USA with global components." It seems all Stanley's tools proclaim "Made in the USA." Then in tiny letters below that "with global and domestic components" or something similar.
 
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I thought that too until I actually compared a couple back to back. The Kwikset was quicker and easier to install, for sure, than the Schlage. I guess true to the name though I had never thought of that.

Since the people buying the locks and installing them are usually not the people using them everyday...

They are both junk just in different ways:lol_hitti. It takes lease skill to get threw a Schlage even a 2 year old could do it.
 

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Metric>Imperial.:beer:

I'm not sure I would go that far. Imperial is still the standard of heavy industry, mainly for simplicity in division over a decimalized system.

Also never forget that the Metric system was brought to us by the same folks responsible for the AX-15 (le crappy ******) and LeCar (also known as pile of le rust).
 

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There's a good amount of new old stock USA made tapes on Ebay (whatever your brand preference) you can get for the same price. I expect the prices to go up on these NOS tapes in the upcoming years.
 
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The tape measure you show has a different hook design and rivet orientation. Can you provide any closer pics of the broken part?

It appears the 3rd rivet on the HE tape is farther from the tip, from what I can see. I could be wrong. I don't know if that would make the tape stronger.

US Tape Co. has the thinnest, weakest blades of any of the recognized brands IMO...

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US Tape also offers a line of import tapes. The above tape is most likely imported. The "Made in the USA" tapes are primarily made for the US government. Certain government contracts still require them to buy 100% US. That's really the only reasons this tape exists. It is made economically for the same reason. (No fancy stuff).

Jori

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f you can make a tape measure for $8 in the USA then the WalMarts of the world will have one made in BFE and sell it for $7.50. Why? Because there is always someone who will buy the cheapest one. It could be half the quality but 10% less and many will buy it.

Yep. A race to the bottom.
 
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