Work on the 74 x 30 5-bay garage has begun!!!!

riskyvt · Oct 9, 2007

Decided to build the workshop before the house...a guy has his priorities, right?

The following pix show footing & frost walls built in only two days! Site prep ahead of time by my friend Gary was so precise, the concrete sub was in & out in a flash. Demensions: 74' wide, 30' deep, 5 10x10 doors, plus 3' egress door. It will have a second story (storage, bathroom for now) with 8' ceilings. Shop will have 11' ceilings.

More photos as we get further along. Thanks for looking!

bluesman2a · Oct 9, 2007

little help with the images...

bmwpower · Oct 9, 2007

looks sweet!

Use insert image next time...hehe

kbs2244 · Oct 9, 2007

Why do I have the feeling this is going to cost more than my house?
Why am I turning green?

Bib Overalls · Oct 9, 2007

We built our house and then our shop. And we kept our things in storage for about 9 months while we were doing it. A better plan would have been to build the shop first, before we retired, and moved everything into it. Would have saved some big bucks. And having the shop on site makes it easy to secure expensive construction materials while the house is under construction.

whatsupofficer · Oct 9, 2007

Nice job so far. I am in the process of building my 50'w x 38' d 4 bay. It is going to have a one bedroom apt above it. 12 'cielings on the first floor. Good thing you have the room to build this. nice

Mr. Welsh · Oct 10, 2007

Looking good so far. What's planned for the interior (cars, equipment, tools, etc)?

riskyvt · Oct 10, 2007

Mr. Welsh said:
Looking good so far. What's planned for the interior (cars, equipment, tools, etc)?

Here's the plan: Interior will be fully insulated, plywood and some yet-undetermined style of white vinyl or aluminum paneling. The left-hand bay is going to have a large floor drain and will be the wash bay. I will not be installing radiant heating in the floor....I know...I know....do it now vs. regretting it later....I can't justify the cost and added infrastructure of the plumbing & boiler, tubing, equipment, etc... for this shop which will not be heavily used. I do have a job that keeps me very busy.

Heat will be two large wall mounted propane furnaces, direct vent. Benches, tool boxes, welder, air compressor, 4-post drive on lift, lots of windows, large A/C unit in one window, plenty of flourescent lighting. A second story will have a rough bathroom/sink/shower stall for some future use. Storage will be the primary use of the second story for now.

And finally, my Chevelles will all be coordinated into one location. I am completing my 3rd resto, with two more in the future...one possibly a bracket drag car.

Electrician and carpenter installed the power backboard yesterday, and temporary power can be turned up in another week or so. Once the slab is poured & troweled, the construction can begin.

T1704 · Oct 10, 2007

Amazing job, I'm anxious to see more pictures as you come out of the ground.

Will67 · Oct 10, 2007

What are all those red metal "jitter-bug" looking things in the middle of your foundation? Are they some sort of transport/storage for concrete framing??

Woffski · Oct 10, 2007

Wow, that sure looks to be one nice garage!! Good job so far!!

riskyvt · Oct 10, 2007

Will67 said:
What are all those red metal "jitter-bug" looking things in the middle of your foundation? Are they some sort of transport/storage for concrete framing??

They are concrete form carrying racks, which usually get picked by a hoist or crane and placed at the center of the job so crews can access easily.

Beegs · Oct 11, 2007

Looks nice!

Make sure dirt guy brings up the inside in lifts, compacting each lift. It's tough to compact after the floor is poured!

I lose jobs all the time to "dirtbags" who don't excavate properly.

Keep us updated on your progress.

fotoflojoe · Oct 11, 2007

Nice! That's going to be one heck of a shop!

riskyvt · Oct 22, 2007

Updated pictures. Slab prep, drain installed, power pad, concrete poured this AM and being power-troweled as I write this! :

bmwpower · Oct 22, 2007

What?!? No in floor heat? You're in VT, right?

riskyvt · Oct 22, 2007

bmwpower said:
What?!? No in floor heat? You're in VT, right?

Ah, the first of many flames about my not putting in radiant!

I kicked the idea around, but couldn't justify the expense. The shop will be used in winter, yes, but not heavily. Two wall-mounted direct vent propane heaters will be sufficient for me.

PAToyota · Oct 22, 2007

A little late now, but the tubing is relatively cheap to put in there and then you have it if you want to connect it up later...

riskyvt · Oct 23, 2007

Slab polished, adding relief cuts!

Big N8 · Oct 23, 2007

Looks very nice.

How high will the doors go?

riskyvt · Oct 23, 2007

Speed6 Guy said:
Looks very nice.

How high will the doors go?

Doors are 10x10, either Wayne-Dalton or Overhead Door brand. 12' ceilings to accomodate my lift, staircase to an upstairs for bathroom, storage, old couch for when my wife kicks me out!

Toxicscrew · Oct 23, 2007

Nice start, that is going to be sweet.

Jerm · Oct 23, 2007

Very nice. Looks like a big project.

04 Navi · Oct 23, 2007

Hey instead of propane why not go to a heat pump? With the price of propane these days, electricity is not a bad idea. You could always plumb the propane for later use, but wouldn't it be nice to have the added benefit of cooling in the summer?

will02 · Oct 27, 2007

Hey Gregg, what are you doing over here? Looks like a great project! Sure a pretty spot. Dave and Jim just left to go back to Nebraska, they spent the weekend up here hooking up my well at the shop. Pretty much finished with it besides some more grading and gravel parking and driveways (sorry, I know, ran out of cash) and hanging cabinets and hooking up a TV. Cathy will never see me after it's done. :bounce:

Will keep an eye on your string here, update often, see you in June! :beer:

riskyvt · Nov 2, 2007

Framing started 2 days ago, by tonite the joists (free-span TJI's) will have been placed and the 3/4" T&G plywood subflooring should be installed:

will02 · Nov 4, 2007

Gregg-What openers do you plan on using? I went with the Liftmaster 3800 series on my 12x12 doors and love them. http://www.liftmaster.com/cw/product_family/0,1064,uid-jGeGa2VnZmlrZg==_457-id-42,00.html They are super quiet, jackshaft setup so no unit in the way of the lift (Derek and Dave tried to jam my convertible top through the one at the house), motion detector lights, deadbolt lock all included. My door guy had three Zap units on first (I bought a Zap for the forementioned garage a few years ago and it is a great unit, they seemed to have gone to **** since) and fought them for a couple of months before he put these on. One of the better choices I made out there! :thumbup:

riskyvt · Nov 4, 2007

will02 said:
Gregg-What openers do you plan on using?

Hey Dan! The two companies we're taking quotes from are Wayne-Dalton and Overhead Door. Each have their own openers included in the price. Overhead Door uses a traditional ceiling-mounted opener unit, while W-D uses a unique unit called "I-Drive" that is mounted in the header above the door opening. I've decided to reduce the height of the doors to 9', and keep my enclosed trailer parked at the hangar.

Things are looking great...in only three days of construction, the crew has put up the walls, sheathed them, installed about 3/4 of the TJI's. I'm leaving town today for an overnight with the Mrs. to Connecticut for some gambling at Mohegun Sun Resort, but I'll bet by tomorrow PM the second story floor will be laid down! More pix on the way, probably on Tues or Wednesday.

Say hello to Cathy for me.

cdrewferd · Nov 8, 2007

Can't wait for more pics.

riskyvt · Nov 10, 2007

Pictures current up to yesterday's progress. All rafters & collar ties are installed, the roof sheathing starts on Monday. I'm guessing the building will be all dried-in by the middle of next week! These guys are cranking!

Matt2point4 · Nov 10, 2007

awesome! I love weekend updates!

Red Car Garage · Nov 10, 2007

Great pics! What you parking in that monster?

riskyvt · Nov 10, 2007

Red Car Garage said:
Great pics! What you parking in that monster?

Mostly Chevelles...and lots of work equipment & tools! I've got several restored cars, with two more to go, plus fabrication on a bracket car.

Red Car Garage · Nov 10, 2007

riskyvt said:
Mostly Chevelles...and lots of work equipment & tools! I've got several restored cars, with two more to go, plus fabrication on a bracket car.

do not have any pics

LOL

riskyvt · Nov 11, 2007

Red Car Garage said:
do not have any pics

Click on either website below, I've documented the restoration on two of my cars...Enjoy!

cdrewferd · Nov 12, 2007

GREAT looking place. How were you able to get the upstairs to be fully open?

riskyvt · Nov 12, 2007

cdrewferd said:
How were you able to get the upstairs to be fully open?

By using TJI 30' free-span floor joists, and 3/4" plywood flooring, the upstairs space is quite spacious and very solid. I'm no lightweight, and over the weekend I climbed up a ladder to "test" the deflection of the floor...it barely moved. With the rafters installed at an 11/12 pitch, we nailed the collar ties at a ceiling height of 8'6". Sure, we'll lose a bit of "walkable" floor space near the side walls, but it still leaves a pretty big open area. Looks like a great "man cave" should it ever come to that!

Today's progress included: Typar wrap, soffit trim boards, sheathing of about 25% of the roof, and the overhang ladders on the gable ends. I picked two stain choices for test panels and decided to use random width shiplap siding too. I ordered two propane heaters today as well, and am looking at Grainger.com's selection of flourescent light fixtures.

73super · Nov 13, 2007

My word that's a massive beast! I'm jealous.. very jealous. It's so nice! Anxious to see what you put in it! :headscrat

ALLNTRL · Nov 13, 2007

74x30 all free span is AWESOME!!!! Very nice build! :bowdown:

V-10 Killer · Nov 14, 2007

Wow! They sure weren't worried about overloading the walls with a full bunk of TJI's setting over that header, were they. Or the full bunks of lumber set on the decking. That woulda scared me.

Work on the 74 x 30 5-bay garage has begun!!!!

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