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Neiko Tools - Curiosity Got the Better of Me

retDAC

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As it too often does.

Got interested in spline sockets and wrenches after reading about them in this forum. You guys should come with a warning like "Danger: Hazardous to Your Financial Health and Love Life." As if I had one.

Ran some searches. More than one because I didn't find links to some companies' products when I knew they made spline tools. Also got off on tangents looking at other tools. :drool:

Nieko tools appeared along with this thread link http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5842&highlight=neiko

Some of the Neiko stuff looks good. Even Sears has it on their site, although that's not to be taken as a recommendation anymore. They merely reference other seller(s). A few on this board have actually had good luck with their Neiko tools. They didn't specify Neiko or Neiko Pro though.

Oh yes there are some reporting the Neiko stuff they bought looked good but wasn't when used. Hmm. Wonder if any of this was identical to known decent tools, yet made to lower standards?

So I wondered what the warranty is on Neiko and who backs it. Just look for "Neiko Tools USA" right? WRONG. All places selling the brand or reviews/redirects.

And here's where Curiosity Got the Better of Me. Why can't I find something that simple?

Kept looking and finally found this:
http://www.tool-sale.com/neiko-tools-i-13.html

I certainly don't believe the statement about "Neiko Tools USA" on tools not being intentionally misleading. The rest of it is interesting, at least to me - Mr. Infinite Curiosity. BTW, I am learning a lot reading this board and I thank you all.

Reportedly a "reseller chain" imports these tools. No single importer. If there is a warranty at all, it appears to be up to the particular importer/reseller you got the tool from. Also ran a search for Neiko Tools USA warranty. Several sellers mention either one year or lifetime. But who would back such?

Another example of these resellers is here
http://www.toolprice.com/c=i9pcgw9FRJ3AYJZvTWzGqLVc7/about_us.cgis
where it states "... We are a direct importer. By doing business on the internet, we can cut overhead to make these prices possible."

Other, related brands to watch out for: Neiko Pro Tools USA, AirCat Pneumatic (www.aircat.com - quiet airtools?), AirLuxe Pneumatic, Tooluxe, and Primax.

Primax is really amusing. How much lower could it be? Sadly a good point about "price conscious" shoppers though.

Since the Neiko Pro tools are made in Taiwan, I might try one which is identical to what I know to be a tool in another brand just to see for myself.

Yes I know most members here don't care about Neiko, but there might actually be a few folks who would benefit so that's why I went to the trouble to post this.

UPDATE 9 Sep 2013: In reading some old posts by (former?) member reversegear, I came across this: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=128060&postcount=19.

Went to the website: http://www.ridgerocktools.com/web2/default.asp

Site was probably different when reversegear posted. Nowadays if you put 'warranty' in Keyword Search or click any of the tool categories, you get a screen requiring a "WHOLESALER LOGIN" which makes me suspect an ordinary retail customer still has to go back to whoever he bought a tool from for warranty purposes. I also expect Ridgerock Tools doesn't stock anything but merely gets royalties from sales of manufacturer stock shipped directly to wholesalers/retailers from the manufacturer. If so, nothing wrong with the latter, it just doesn't seem to me that Ridgerock is what I would consider a true importer to be. Also begs the question of what would Ridgerock do if a retail seller refused proper warranty service. Assuming of course a customer even knew of Ridgerock's existence. :dunno:
 
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Re: Curiosity Got the Better of Me - Neiko

I've seen tons of positive reviews of the AirCat/NitroCat stuff around here.

I call ******** on the whole "we don't intend the Neiko Tools USA name to be misleading!" A separate mark for USA-destined tools could have been done without the USA in the name. "Neiko Tools NA" or "Neiko Tools Pacific" for example.
 

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Re: Curiosity Got the Better of Me - Neiko

Search on Amazon for tools and you'll undoubtedly run across the Neiko Tools USA name. The question is, is anything worth buying? Do we need a Neiko pass/fail thread?
 

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Re: Curiosity Got the Better of Me - Neiko

I've seen tons of positive reviews of the AirCat/NitroCat stuff around here.

I call ******** on the whole "we don't intend the Neiko Tools USA name to be misleading!" A separate mark for USA-destined tools could have been done without the USA in the name. "Neiko Tools NA" or "Neiko Tools Pacific" for example.

My in-laws bought me Neiko Tools USA sledge hammer last year for Xmas because they thought it was US made.

Sold it on Craigslist for $10 and bought a Craftsman US made one for around $20.
 

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Re: Curiosity Got the Better of Me - Neiko

Let me address some of the comments here.

There is only one importer of Neiko Tools into North America. It is not any of the websites mentioned above.

I'm pretty sure the USA has been dropped in the last couple years to just say Neiko Tools now. The registered trademark is for Neiko Tools without the USA.

Sears allows resellers to list their items on their website just like Amazon and Buy.com does. The resellers pay a percentage of sales for the benefit of being listed and associated with the brand.

AIRCAT and NitroCat are their own brand and not affiliated with the Neiko importer although the Neiko importer does distribute them just as Toolweb and ISNC distributes both.

Neiko Tools, Neiko Pro, Airluxe Pneumatic and Tooluxe are all the same importer but the brands are unique because they target different users.

No need to start a pass/fail thread as Amazon has decent reviews now on most of these tools. There are currently just over 2000 items that fall into one of these brands.

Seriously you sold a Neiko sledgehammer and replaced it with a Craftsman? If we're going to grade Neiko tools against quality tools then so be it. Grading a Neiko tool against a similar quality Craftsman tool is just trading a red apple for a green apple. No professional will tell you Craftsman tools is quality - not by a mile. Heck I can pick them up at Ace and Kmart now. If it weren't for their liberal warranty they would have been classified junk a long time ago.

I hope that helps and if you think Craftsman tools are great tools then you'll most likely find Neiko Pro tools top notch (not Neiko Tools). If you find Craftsman tools are mediocre at best then I'd recommend you stick with Snap-on, Matco, MAC, Cornwell or other professional tools.
 

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Re: Curiosity Got the Better of Me - Neiko

Let me address some of the comments here.

There is only one importer of Neiko Tools into North America. It is not any of the websites mentioned above.

I'm pretty sure the USA has been dropped in the last couple years to just say Neiko Tools now. The registered trademark is for Neiko Tools without the USA.

Sears allows resellers to list their items on their website just like Amazon and Buy.com does. The resellers pay a percentage of sales for the benefit of being listed and associated with the brand.

AIRCAT and NitroCat are their own brand and not affiliated with the Neiko importer although the Neiko importer does distribute them just as Toolweb and ISNC distributes both.

Neiko Tools, Neiko Pro, Airluxe Pneumatic and Tooluxe are all the same importer but the brands are unique because they target different users.

No need to start a pass/fail thread as Amazon has decent reviews now on most of these tools. There are currently just over 2000 items that fall into one of these brands.

Seriously you sold a Neiko sledgehammer and replaced it with a Craftsman? If we're going to grade Neiko tools against quality tools then so be it. Grading a Neiko tool against a similar quality Craftsman tool is just trading a red apple for a green apple. No professional will tell you Craftsman tools is quality - not by a mile. Heck I can pick them up at Ace and Kmart now. If it weren't for their liberal warranty they would have been classified junk a long time ago.

I hope that helps and if you think Craftsman tools are great tools then you'll most likely find Neiko Pro tools top notch (not Neiko Tools). If you find Craftsman tools are mediocre at best then I'd recommend you stick with Snap-on, Matco, MAC, Cornwell or other professional tools.


I guess you sell Neiko. Both the websites linked in the first post use Neiko USA. As far as addressing the concerns why keep the importers name a secret, toolprice claims to be a direct importer. Who handles warranty?

Nothing wrong with a US made craftsman sledge hammer.
 

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Re: Curiosity Got the Better of Me - Neiko

Let me address some of the comments here.

There is only one importer of Neiko Tools into North America. It is not any of the websites mentioned above.

I'm pretty sure the USA has been dropped in the last couple years to just say Neiko Tools now. The registered trademark is for Neiko Tools without the USA.

Sears allows resellers to list their items on their website just like Amazon and Buy.com does. The resellers pay a percentage of sales for the benefit of being listed and associated with the brand.

AIRCAT and NitroCat are their own brand and not affiliated with the Neiko importer although the Neiko importer does distribute them just as Toolweb and ISNC distributes both.

Neiko Tools, Neiko Pro, Airluxe Pneumatic and Tooluxe are all the same importer but the brands are unique because they target different users.

No need to start a pass/fail thread as Amazon has decent reviews now on most of these tools. There are currently just over 2000 items that fall into one of these brands.

Seriously you sold a Neiko sledgehammer and replaced it with a Craftsman? If we're going to grade Neiko tools against quality tools then so be it. Grading a Neiko tool against a similar quality Craftsman tool is just trading a red apple for a green apple. No professional will tell you Craftsman tools is quality - not by a mile. Heck I can pick them up at Ace and Kmart now. If it weren't for their liberal warranty they would have been classified junk a long time ago.

I hope that helps and if you think Craftsman tools are great tools then you'll most likely find Neiko Pro tools top notch (not Neiko Tools). If you find Craftsman tools are mediocre at best then I'd recommend you stick with Snap-on, Matco, MAC, Cornwell or other professional tools.


Seriously?? Ace and Kmart??
There are like 10 stores left total in the entire US.

Craftsman tools have done what all other big name brands have done, and that is survive for decades. That is the true test of what works.
 

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Re: Curiosity Got the Better of Me - Neiko

Could someone on the GJ tell me the difference between a set of Neiko impact sockets versus a set of Sunex impact sockets?

Do the both come from the same Conntry?
Are the made in the same factory?
Do the both have the same warranty?
Are they on par in price?
Do both have many web-sites where you can buy them?
If they break can you get them replaced asap?

In other words if someone had to give me a sales pitch then maybe I could get a better grasp of what I am getting into with buying one tool over the other (at least in impact sockets).

Woody:lol:
 

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Bumping an acient thread.

I have a set of the Neiko step bits.

They are a fantastic bit. I broke the tiniest bit off of one of them. I am trying to find out if they have any warranty or what have you.
Does any one know any thing ?
 
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Have used a Neiko 3/4" set alot. Abused as necessary because its what happens with big sockets. I have no complaints.
 

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About 10 years ago, I bought a 29 piece set of Neiko drill bits (1/64 - 1/2 stepped down to 3/8) mainly because they were cheap. I also bought a Huot index because the Neiko one was ****.

I am about to do it again, but I found a "Neiko Pro" set on eBay that claims to have a Huot index . Anyone else here "take the bait".

(Norseman are just TOO EXPENSIVE !)

Look at Drill Hog. Their drill bits are USA and I'm almost dead certain they are Viking/Norseman, just cheaper. Despite the confusing way they advertise (Made by Drill Hog USA), mine came with a sticker on the box that said Made In USA and are dead ringers for my Norseman set.
 

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Drill Hog YES

And to boot:
For HSS they use M7 instead of M2
For Cobalt they use M42 instead of M35

As far as the, uh, other option mentioned in this thread. Well, no comment.
 

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About 10 years ago, I bought a 29 piece set of Neiko drill bits (1/64 - 1/2 stepped down to 3/8) mainly because they were cheap. I also bought a Huot index because the Neiko one was ****.

I am about to do it again, but I found a "Neiko Pro" set on eBay that claims to have a Huot index . Anyone else here "take the bait".

(Norseman are just TOO EXPENSIVE !)

Ha too funny! Years ago long before HF had all those color catalogs I bought thru them by mail order 3 full drill bit sets...letter, number, and fractional and all the steel index boxes were stamped HUOT USA or Milwaukee Twist Drill USA (just as advertised) but the bits were packaged separately in sealed plastic bags that were all marked made in India

And actually I still have the boxes and most of the drill bits :D
 

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Drill Hog YES

And to boot:
For HSS they use M7 instead of M2
For Cobalt they use M42 instead of M35

Well, now that I have been informed of Drill Hog, I notice that the is no price difference between their 29 piece HSS, Cobalt or Niobium and they all come with a LIFETIME WARRANTY !

So which of the 3 materials should I choose ? Average DIY drilling multiple materials.
 
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Loscaldazar

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Well, bow that I have been informed of Drill Hog, I notice that the is no price difference between their 29 piece HSS, Cobalt or Niobium and they all come with a LIFETIME WARRANTY !

So which of the 3 materials should I choose ? Average DIY drilling multiple materials.

Get the Molybdenum Bits.
 

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I sure wish Drill Hog made a 3/8" set. It would match the new M12 3/8" drill that I hpe Santa is bringing me !
 
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